The Battle of Philippi (42 B.C.E.)

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  • @RubanVH
    @RubanVH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5238

    21:10 SEXTUS POMPEIUS BOAT KING

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2855

      WE CAN'T GET INTO IT NOW.

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +621

      Now now, he was a boat Consul

    • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
      @a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +434

      “Your enemies”
      *he was THE BOAT KING OF ROME*

    • @elijahg.8273
      @elijahg.8273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      "Ich lasse mir doch nicht mein Schiff unter dem Arsch wegschießen Feuererlaubnis!" - Some roman boat king, probably

    • @treeyee9790
      @treeyee9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      incredible

  • @Jay-ln1co
    @Jay-ln1co 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3736

    "This is known as the Second Battle of Philippi, because it was the second battle, and because it was near Philippi."
    See, this is the cutting edge historical knowledge you just don't get elsewhere.

    • @aurelia8028
      @aurelia8028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ModalSoul what?

    • @datguitarplayer1656
      @datguitarplayer1656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆😅🤣😂

    • @kan12372
      @kan12372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's pretty self explanatory..

    • @TheHesseJames
      @TheHesseJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kan12372 isn't it?

    • @dibaldgyfm9933
      @dibaldgyfm9933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thought the same and had a laugh. I guess that was the intention from Historia-Civilis! :D :D :D ☻

  • @bf3playstyles
    @bf3playstyles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2321

    You can tell marc antony had served under caesar because he immediately started building fortifications lol.

    • @gabrielcastilho4168
      @gabrielcastilho4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      I was like: holy shit, another building race
      Last one was like what? 30Km of walls? Haha

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      it is the roman wae

    • @Zarafin
      @Zarafin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@veljkoangelovski5349 Do you know da wae?

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Ceaser first saw how useful Antony was at Alesia, but I do always notice that too. They love some fortifications.

    • @danielblanken4523
      @danielblanken4523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheLouisianan they in the builder class fo sho

  • @N0ahface
    @N0ahface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4077

    Some say that after this battle Roman engineers were able to make aqueducts flow uphill for the next 20 years, powered solely by Caesar and Pompey spinning in their graves.

    • @starplays3718
      @starplays3718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +540

      Yeah fucking hell, watching Caesar and Pompey, heck even the Gauls (let's forget about Crassus) fight was like watching strategic geniuses, the likes of Scipio and Hannibal. And then in the second roman civil war I was already suspicious when there were a total of almost 40 legions in total, like bruh imagine if they had come together then and just attacked the rest of the world.

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +320

      @@starplays3718 40 legions? Holy cow, they could've just stream rolled Parthia with that many soldiers.

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      shit that is the funniest and smartest joke ever made

    • @starplays3718
      @starplays3718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      @@BatCostumeGuy This time it was Crassus's turn to spin in his grave.

    • @critter30002001
      @critter30002001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@BatCostumeGuy imagine if the Mark Antony and done that with the survivors as a victory lap.

  • @germania5374
    @germania5374 ปีที่แล้ว +882

    Brutus: "I will be remembered for my virtue."
    2000 years later: *The term Brutus is synonymous with betrayal*

    • @insomnius3447
      @insomnius3447 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      I would say his legacy is pretty contestet. While Dante famously put him next to judas and cassius in the deepest part of the hell, voltaire, for example, praised him for standing up against tyranny.

    • @ultra-papasmurf
      @ultra-papasmurf ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@insomnius3447 the main positives ive seen from his legacy are from people who are in love with the Roman republic more then people who admire Brutus himself, this video alone show cases how unsavory he was offering to let the legions burn, loot and rape Roman cities with roman civilians and civilians under roman protection isnt really all that great and ideallic

    • @togekiss09
      @togekiss09 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      And correct me if I'm getting the facts wrong but his name in Spanish is "bruto" which usually means "stupid"

    • @Derna1804
      @Derna1804 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@togekiss09 The Brutus family name comes from Lucius Junius Brutus who founded the Roman republic by pretending to be stupid so the tyrant Tarquinius Superbus wouldn't suspect him of being dangerous and kill him, then inciting a revolution at the first good opportunity. The Roman legend was that he carried a walking stick made from a gnarled piece of wood with a gold rod hidden inside.

    • @jacobbeitner8796
      @jacobbeitner8796 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What a bruh moment right there

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3192

    Brutus: promises his army that they could sack Roman cities*
    Also Brutus: I will be remembered for my virtue!

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +402

      Winds up being remembered for stabbing his friend and adopted kin in the, er... back.

    • @dukecity7688
      @dukecity7688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I thought the same thing. I am old and dropped out of school in 9th grade. It is wonderful to learn and it's also fun.

    • @NovaHessia
      @NovaHessia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

      @@64standardtrickyness The problem is not looting cities. The problem is looting *your own* cities. Cities that had already surrendered to Roman authority, so as to not get sacked and plundered. What Brutus promised was betrayal, plain and simply, and that was considered one of the worst sins back then. Worse than just plundering by itself.

    • @numalesoybea1348
      @numalesoybea1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@WaterShowsProd he did it to save Rome

    • @michaelferrell7924
      @michaelferrell7924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      @@numalesoybea1348 as if Rome could have or even needed to be saved

  • @JRMusic933
    @JRMusic933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5834

    I've gotten so used to following Caesar and his practically impeccable tactics, so watching two (I guess four?) armies blunder about like this is pretty jarring.

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2374

      lol same

    • @joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619
      @joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +772

      I was expecting some king of wall being built around the enemy, but all i got was a really big brawl.

    • @TheAustronaut03
      @TheAustronaut03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

      @Domantas propably one of the reasons Ceasar was so surprised at his political incompetence.

    • @ethanalspencer7294
      @ethanalspencer7294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +663

      You could even see Antony was kinda going for the good ol' "lets just build a wall around em" strat.

    • @nobblkpraetorian5623
      @nobblkpraetorian5623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      Where was Agrippa in this? Did he contribute to the battle?

  • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
    @a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +852

    >Assassinate Julius Caesar to depose a tyrant
    >Accidentally make him a god instead

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      /task failed sucsesfully/

    • @piggyblitz4404
      @piggyblitz4404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lorgar be like

    • @jacobkleinsasser5658
      @jacobkleinsasser5658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1. Assassinate Caesar.
      2. ?
      3. Profit.

    • @carval51
      @carval51 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      let be honest ransacking city to raise an army is it not the act of a tyrant themself?

    • @jerm70
      @jerm70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@carval51 At that point Caesar was an enemy of Rome. You can't be a tyrant when you are dealing with an enemy threat in a cruel manner.

  • @rickkcir2151
    @rickkcir2151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1089

    One of the most important battles in Roman history, can be summed up as “what the hell is happening, there’s so many people and I have dust in my eyes”

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      "also why did cassius kill himself after he got backup! and where is my COFFIE"

    • @laurakastrup
      @laurakastrup ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There’s actually multiple battles in Roman history that could be summarised like that, the battle of Cannae, the battle of Carrhae and the battle of Philippi

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ever heard of the "haze of war"?? That's exactly what it is. Ask any soldier you meet if they were ever NOT confused during battle.

    • @cormacb2326
      @cormacb2326 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurakastrup
      Not really. Hannibal had a plan and it worked. Varro had a plan and it failed. No one had any plan in this shitshow.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@laurakastrup
      I’d think Cannae and Carrhae are more summed up as “FUCK FUCK FUCK” from the Roman perspective.

  • @tyrannicfool2503
    @tyrannicfool2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1107

    The first battle of Phillipi is probably the weirdest battle I have heard of:
    1) the battle starts by accident
    2) Brutus flanks his enemy BY ACCIDENT
    3) Brutus breaks his enemy but can’t take advantage of it because his troops decide to stay looting the enemy camp
    4) Anthony breaks his enemy by accident
    5) Cassius kills himself because he noticed cavalry approaching..... it was allied cavalry

    • @pandasniper1
      @pandasniper1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      luck does play some importance in battle

    • @thelurkingrogue2442
      @thelurkingrogue2442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cassius Spelled as Decimus,I need to put that there

    • @tyrannicfool2503
      @tyrannicfool2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neil Myron Quintos sorry I confused the names

    • @doomdrake123
      @doomdrake123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1 and 3 were soooo common.

    • @kspfan001
      @kspfan001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Anyone who has been in combat will tell you that plans fall apart upon contact with the enemy, instincts and/or training takes over, and at all times you can just get killed at random and there is nothing you can do to try and make sense of it. We really only hear about the exceptions to this, where uniquely talented officers & generals leverage extremely well disciplined & trained troops to pull off the maneuvers & victories we read about.
      However, throughout pre-modern history (and into today somewhat), much of human warfare has been waged by inbred nobles or entitled incompetents of ruling class. Typically surrounded by supporting leadership valued for it's mediocrity and inability to threaten the status quo, with poorly disciplined & trained conscripts, criminals, slaves etc and maybe a handful of decent veterans or mercenaries. Most battles boil down to two mobs of people being forced to kill each other by incompetents until one gives up or is destroyed. This gets even worse in modern war when people will likely get killed by something they never even saw coming (bomb/artillery/surprise gunfire).
      What I am trying to say is that Phillipi isn't that unusual if we consider what most battles were like. We are spoiled by focusing so much on the genius & glory of the few ppl & armies that were really successful at warfare into imaging that all warfare must be like that.

  • @TheSecondVersion
    @TheSecondVersion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2813

    Good lord, it's like all the intelligence in Rome died with Caesar and Cicero

    • @marktulo
      @marktulo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Like kids in a sandbox

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      Vito C because it did until Octavian grew a pair

    • @wizard680
      @wizard680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      Tbf it kinda did. LOTS of people died before this happened

    • @wizard680
      @wizard680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @Lovecraft this is honestly a good question. We need a roman historian in the chat to help us out

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      When one of Sulla's supporters that became a reformer (Crassus) died and Caesar's Daughter died - Some intelligence died (End of first triumvirate)
      When Another one of Sulla's supporters that became a reformer that went back to the Optimates (Pompey) died, so did some more
      When Pompey's 4th father in law (Caesar died) - Almost all the intelligence in Rome died
      When Caesar's mistress's brother's brother in law's brother (Cicero) died- No longer was their any intelligence in Rome

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1291

    "Did you save Cassius?"
    "Well, he comitted suicide when he saw us coming..."

    • @adamantdane3896
      @adamantdane3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Can you imagine lol

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@adamantdane3896 lol probably should've used different colors.

    • @Guitcad1
      @Guitcad1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      FAAAAAAAIL!!!

  • @spamhonx56
    @spamhonx56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1858

    The romans apparently were also unable to have more than 20 units in a stack.

    • @disiesgroto1881
      @disiesgroto1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +425

      Just further proof at the complete historic accuracy of the Total War games.

    • @MrJacobkoh
      @MrJacobkoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      🤣hahahaha. I remembered that!

    • @TheEnergizer94
      @TheEnergizer94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Altough in Total War they are half sized cohorts, not even amounting to one legion. I tried a mod with historical unit sizes but my god the fps goes down the drain

    • @KaguroDraven
      @KaguroDraven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@TheEnergizer94 Rome 1 had accurate Cohort sizes at max unit size. 160 units. Each Century had 80 fighting men, and thus Cohorts were 160.

    • @sdhutusice6314
      @sdhutusice6314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@KaguroDraven You mistake that with maniples. 2 centuries = 1 maniple. 6 centuries = 1 cohort

  • @georgewilson7432
    @georgewilson7432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1693

    "Why would they do such a stupid thing?"
    This should be the preface to every history book.

    • @allanlank
      @allanlank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Too true.

    • @psikogeek
      @psikogeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ...and political science book.......

    • @zealousdoggo
      @zealousdoggo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      And just humanity in general

    • @attalan8732
      @attalan8732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Trial and error. Don't be cynical, be proud of how far we've come.
      But don't forget how far we have to go.

    • @hippophile
      @hippophile 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and to the next video in this great series!! :))

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1761

    Hortensia: "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!"
    Mark Antony: "You're a couple millennia too early for that."

    • @georgewu4051
      @georgewu4051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      and here I thought feminism started in the suffrage movements

    • @assassain0425
      @assassain0425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      American eagle screaming in the background

    • @josue_mejia
      @josue_mejia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@assassain0425
      *Roman Eagle Standard screaming in the background

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@georgewu4051
      This is a reference to the American call for independence, not feminism.
      Back then, rich women enjoyed much better lives than the Middle Class working women that become instrumental to the feminist movement

    • @radiocalico9124
      @radiocalico9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Dani Al BASED

  • @pepijnkruiswijk2182
    @pepijnkruiswijk2182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +811

    I would really like to know more on Sulla's period. He's a bit overshadowed because of Ceasars tims, but I know nothing of this cruel dictator Sulla.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This

    • @Hugh_Morris
      @Hugh_Morris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      From all I've read Sulla wasn't cruel. He murdered political opponents yes, but so did Marius when he killed Sulla's supporters. Marius was a "man of the people" and so doesn't get painted with the same brush as Sulla, despite being just as devious.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@splatm4n8 It's not the same without the squares

    • @splatm4n8
      @splatm4n8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@federicoarmada8775 true

    • @TheCloud175
      @TheCloud175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Dan Carlin’s “Death Throes of The Republic” covers the period before Caesar very well.

  • @thomasmay6215
    @thomasmay6215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I find it amazing that Brutus, prior to committing suicide, thought he would be remembered as a righteous man. Yet, when Dante wrote the Inferno, Brutus and Cassius are the two people in the mouth of Satan along with Judas --- the man who betrayed Christ. Like, you could not be more wrong about how you are remembered.

    • @julianapattison4785
      @julianapattison4785 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Fr, esp as octavian is vaguely remebered as the heroic first emperor of Rome

    • @4rumani
      @4rumani 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@julianapattison4785By who?

    • @richmont9557
      @richmont9557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I consider cassius a hero. Brutus is an incompetent man

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Who cares about what Dante thought.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@zxylo786, he is kind of the creator of our modern conception of Hell, and somewhat contributed to the creation of the modern Italian language. So... a lot of people.

  • @hamd8375
    @hamd8375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1648

    The lord of the squares cometh! Rejoice! Rejoice!

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Yes, his work is wonderful to behold, but it's not quite as good without the jaunty monophonic synth tune at the end. :-(

    • @BICfootball92
      @BICfootball92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hazaaah hazaaah!!!!!

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gaudete!

    • @jamescusack6511
      @jamescusack6511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *Rejoicing sounds*

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The square is dead. Long live the square.

  • @TheShadowOfMars
    @TheShadowOfMars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2719

    Brutus: I will be remembered as a virtuous man
    Dante: Brutus suffers eternally in Lucifer's gnashing jaws at the absolute deepest point of Hell

    • @incanusolorin2607
      @incanusolorin2607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

      To be fair, Dante even puts Ulysses in Hell. There is no winning with that guy.

    • @c0sselburn
      @c0sselburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +345

      @@incanusolorin2607 Ulysses is in the "best" part of Hell though. The first layer is devoid of torment and is reserved for virtuous people who lived before the birth of Jesus and thus could not be Christians but since they didn't do anything bad enough to warrant eternal punishment they just kinda chill in the void.

    • @incanusolorin2607
      @incanusolorin2607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      Mahesvara That’s not where Ulysses is. He is tortured by being constantly set on fire with the false counselors.
      Ps: I only know the correct names in Italian. I’m sorry if “false counselors” isn’t the right translation of “consiglieri fraudolenti”.

    • @c0sselburn
      @c0sselburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      @@incanusolorin2607 Now that I think about it I believe I got Ulysses and Achilles mixed up

    • @Moonlitwatersofaqua
      @Moonlitwatersofaqua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      I like to think that at least in the modern day people think more fondly of Brutus. Dante was a Roman empire stan, he hated the greeks, hated the catholic church, was a monarchist, and it shows. The guy is an apex of projecting your political opinions into your writing. The other guy who famously wrote about Brutus is Shakespeare. He was also a monarchist but he was far kinder to Brutus. Imagine if an American writer wrote a dramatic story about Rome. I feel they would remember Brutus as Brutus wanted to be remembered.

  • @nostro1940
    @nostro1940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Legend says that History Civilis is waiting for Senator Aquila's approval to upload the next video

    • @Rocklahaulle
      @Rocklahaulle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Massively underrated comment 😂😂

    • @brianreinboldjr
      @brianreinboldjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rocklahaulle only the real ones respect this comment lol

    • @danielblanken4523
      @danielblanken4523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@brianreinboldjr real real ones know it’s actually Tribune Aquila

    • @nostro1940
      @nostro1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@danielblanken4523 he is still a senator

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nostro1940
      Well, Aquila is certainly not *a CONSUL OF ROME!*

  • @SurvivorMaster
    @SurvivorMaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Hortensia's speech is a really great piece of historical literature, I'm glad you read it.

  • @georgewu4051
    @georgewu4051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +831

    Phillippi: A battle where Antony is miraculously the highest stat general

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Horrifying

    • @Paddythelaad
      @Paddythelaad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      They are sorely missing good generals, or at least not appointing those that deserve it. Who still alive would have been better? Caesar, Labienus, Pompey (both opposite side I know) were gone and for some reason Lepidus was left in Italy.
      Antony wasn't that bad tho right? I heard some flaws but Caesar seemed to mostly approve of him and he did well on a ~micro level in Alesia.

    • @VAWM.
      @VAWM. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@Paddythelaad I imagine Lepidus was left behind because he was the most competent administrator of the three. Antony demonstrated his political incompetence when Caesar left him in charge of Rome, and a good portion of the city still hated him for it. Octavian was young and an unknown quantity at that point. The Triumvirs might have thought the morale boost the troops would get for being lead by "The Son of Caesar" would be better than any administrative skills Octavian possessed.
      Edited because somehow I wrote Labienus instead of Lepidus the first time.

    • @Paddythelaad
      @Paddythelaad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@VAWM. That was my thinking too. Lepidus left behind, I assume you meant that. Im mostly surprised the sub-commanders didn't do better on both sides.

    • @TheShadowOfMars
      @TheShadowOfMars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@VAWM. Anthony and Octavian bitterly mistrusted each other, but they both trusted Lepidus to honour the triumvirate agreement. The chaotic game-of-thrones from the last episode could resume at any moment if one of them had an army under his individual control and decided to backstab his rival. Leading an army jointly together was their way of preventing that.

  • @rin_etoware_2989
    @rin_etoware_2989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    brutus, after allowing his soldiers to sack two Roman cities after they win Philippi: *VIRTUE, GENTLEMEN. I AM VIRTUOUS.*

    • @jarradscarborough7915
      @jarradscarborough7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      just goes to show, people are usually blind to themselves

    • @ruanpingshan
      @ruanpingshan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just don't get why Antony insisted that Brutus had noble intentions even after Philippi. He was alleged to have stabbed Caesar in the groin, after all (revenge for Caesar boning Brutus' mother?). Also, didn't Brutus' father-in-law take up arms against Caesar and then brutally commit suicide when he lost?

    • @zaleost
      @zaleost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe that this is largely one of those situations where you have such a strong distain for the people you are fighting against that through your eyes anything done to thwart them is seen as just. Really its just fooling yourself in to believing you're the good guy despite doing things that are just as bad the "bad guy" you want to take down.

    • @darkseidshrike6165
      @darkseidshrike6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ruanpingshan Yes he did. And he decided to side with the guy that executed his father (Pompey) against Ceasar.

    • @LeBaron101
      @LeBaron101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least he died a happy man, it's the only thing one can hope for in life

  • @N0ahface
    @N0ahface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    All I could think about during the battle was how much Caesar would've wiped the floor with them. It probably would have been one of his most celebrated victories too, beating 17 legions with probably hardly any casualties.

    • @alejomandafull
      @alejomandafull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      let's be honest all those legions would've defected to caesar before any actual blows

    • @hihi-nm3uy
      @hihi-nm3uy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@alejomandafull
      they wouldnt defect because they’d already be on caesar’s side
      the battle would cease to exist because no competition would occur

    • @alejomandafull
      @alejomandafull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hihi-nm3uy yeah we can see that
      we're talking about a what if
      if caesar had to face an army that big

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Caesar could have brought just his 9 legions against their 17 just to make it somewhat fair.

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Saurophaganax1931
      "Sir they outnumber us 2 to 1!"
      "Then it's a fair fight."

  • @Kanner111
    @Kanner111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Antony: "I have actually been in a battle before".
    Cassius: "I know several dudes who have been in a battle before."
    Brutus: *hurriedly leafing through Battles 101* "Okay thin line good thick line bad LETS GO GUYS."
    Octavian: "I have a note from my father excusing me from the battle."
    Also, Brutus not coming to help when it would be most useful is pretty much the whole vibe of the Republican Resistance.

  • @aveioacosta371
    @aveioacosta371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +824

    "Roman legions being incompetent"
    "Caesar turning in his grave so hard he causes earthquakes"

    • @hydrogenatom4624
      @hydrogenatom4624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Don't read my username.

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Caesar spent YEARS building up his legions' competence. And his commanders' too.

    • @ThiagoSilveira1
      @ThiagoSilveira1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      So now I know why Vesuvius erupted

    • @LordIsrafel
      @LordIsrafel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The earthquakes cause choppy waves.
      The sailors, terrified at how much larger the waves were than the weather should allow, believe it to be a sign from the gods and throw Brutus's head into the sea.

    • @phrophetsamgames
      @phrophetsamgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't Read My Profile Picture that was incredibly awesome

  • @megad7060
    @megad7060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    Glad hes continuing with the end of the republic. Most history youtubers like to drop it after Caesar dies. Augustus' story deserves more retelling than just HBO

    • @JayKayDanks
      @JayKayDanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I couldn't even make it to Julius Caesar's death, they were doing Cleopatra so dirty

    • @AndrewTheFrank
      @AndrewTheFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Most historian youtubers stop at the death of Caesar so that the virtues of Brutus can be remembered.

    • @TheDavid22
      @TheDavid22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@JayKayDanks how so? I thought they made her a shrewd political player

    • @ugojlachapelle
      @ugojlachapelle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@AndrewTheFrank I see what you did there.

    • @thewayfarer8849
      @thewayfarer8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I find this period more interesting honestly

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn ปีที่แล้ว +44

    19:18 "The second battle of Philippi...so called because it was the second battle that took place near the area known as Philippi" you can tell this man is a real competent historian.

  • @barkasz6066
    @barkasz6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Brutus and Cassius were holding out for that sweet book deal: “How to lose completely while having both the strategic and tactical advantage 101.”

  • @samuelsisk1161
    @samuelsisk1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1667

    Brutus: “Happy Birthday! Here are some horsies!”
    Cassius: “Kill me immediately”

    • @samuelsisk1161
      @samuelsisk1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      a10001110101 this is an amazing community

    • @frodoswaggins3132
      @frodoswaggins3132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      F

    • @yang_zhao
      @yang_zhao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what about some unicorns?

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      parthian commander to marcus crassus: have some horsies and flying pointy sticks!
      crassus: quick, run onto the hill!

    • @amcghie7
      @amcghie7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What can I say, the guy just really didn't like horses...

  • @photon4076
    @photon4076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    The battle of the four idiots:
    Octavian and Cassius: normally not idiots but act like idiots during this battle
    Mark Anthony: normally an idiot but doesn't act like an idiot during this battle
    Brutus: normally an idiot, an idiot here as well

    • @proaaron578
      @proaaron578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lool

    • @georgewu4051
      @georgewu4051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I was gonna say if Antony is the highest stat general in this fight then Roma really has lost all their stars

    • @dyingearth
      @dyingearth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@georgewu4051 Octavian basically let his friend and ally Agrippa do the actual command of his legions. When you don't know what you're doing, let the professional do the job and get out of their way. At least he know his limitation and sought proper assistance.

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This comment is stupid

    • @pez4
      @pez4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Anthony: good tactics, mediocre strategy

  • @chaptap8376
    @chaptap8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    After all the ingenuity that Julius Caesar pulled off, this is one of the funniest battles on this channel. It beats the heavy infantry who kept marching out of the battle.

  • @Mrqwerty2109
    @Mrqwerty2109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    These videos are some of the best content on the internet and they are literally just a man talking about a bunch of squares.

    • @tonyv2373
      @tonyv2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But they are all different colors and are so cute

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      shit you are right

  • @FireFox2382
    @FireFox2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3335

    I laughed so hard when he said Brutus accidentally flanked Octavian's army. How do you accidentally win a battle xD

    • @program4215
      @program4215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +494

      When both sides are so poorly led that's basically the only outcome. It is pretty funny

    • @lathrael7152
      @lathrael7152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      That's Brutus for you.

    • @will2003michael2003
      @will2003michael2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      Happens more often then any general would ever want to admit.

    • @kalebburris6425
      @kalebburris6425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh my god, me too

    • @anthonycampbell97
      @anthonycampbell97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      is there a list of accidentally-won battles?

  • @chrisjenkins3767
    @chrisjenkins3767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +890

    Imagine the damage they could do if julius caesar and labienus had 19 legions to control

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ha ha! Yes - imagine

    • @endlesshalcyon
      @endlesshalcyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      They could’ve conquered all of Europe, especially if they had veteran legions.
      The real question is how long that territory will last, because we all know what happens when an empire overextends itself by a long shot. Nothing ends well. I also think that it would be kind of pointless to extend so, so far. There would be too many places that would be a deadweight to Rome. Augustus’ policy of keeping Rome’s borders as is and not extending further was, I think, the right call. Trajan would expand the empire further during his reign as emperor, but Mesopotamia especially was a burden on Rome that it couldn’t bear, which is the main reason why Hadrian left and reverted back to Augustus’ policy. Sure, it would be cool to conquer Europe and maybe even Arabia and the Parthians, but it wouldn’t be all that good for the Romans in the long run.

    • @jahbama6202
      @jahbama6202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      God, I miss competent generals

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeh they would split the mountain in half

    • @KaaptnIglo
      @KaaptnIglo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      or maybe they could have but did not want to, because it is really hard to sustain/manage (as shown by the above)?
      Caesar has proved time and time again that a small experienced force can easily defeat a large army.From there, it seems wiser to keep a relatively small force.

  • @Macy_Freya
    @Macy_Freya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Why is my adopted son such a wimp when it comes to fighting? I doubt he’ll ever come to anything.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Boy do I have a story to tell you - But first - Was the time travel fun?

    • @DanishCamp
      @DanishCamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Technically you never knew he was adopted as it happened after your death

    • @decimusausoniusmagnus5719
      @decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Should've adopted an heir that wasn't such a wimp.

    • @omnomnomnomm
      @omnomnomnomm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      IMPERATORRR

    • @cursedmailman3999
      @cursedmailman3999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DanishCamp Presumably he knew Octavian was his son when he was getting assassinated, since he had written in his will and probably knew he was going to die

  • @saritar1000
    @saritar1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Here's the battle summarized in 3 words :
    "Wow, that...worked..?"

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Red Square: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move
    Red Square: gets declared a god*

    • @assassain0425
      @assassain0425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Make this an actual meme. Like the template make it this communities meme.

  • @jonjameson2629
    @jonjameson2629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    The irony is Brutus probably ended up killing himself with the same hand he used to murder Julius Caesar.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Funny how everybody but Octavian was stabbed to death.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @off baperan Octavian was the Imperator.

    • @snappysnoot7540
      @snappysnoot7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he fell on his sword

    • @natanshick
      @natanshick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MillenniumRP Dude spoilers

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Garren *Augustus:*
      "Octavian? Who?"

  • @user-lf9sv8gw7k
    @user-lf9sv8gw7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Ceaser in his grave must've been like: Why the f*ck am I going through another stroke, I'm already dead

  • @yiftacheliav1099
    @yiftacheliav1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Honestly, the part where brutus and friends went up the mountains and just went on a four day of simply "living" and having fun made me smile... I mean, after so much turmoil, stress, death, war and loss, what better thing to do than have a 4 days bender of drinking and reciting greek poetry with your buddies?

    • @dam11232
      @dam11232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Yeah but the whole time brutus knew he was gonna off himself
      Thats crazy

    • @yiftacheliav1099
      @yiftacheliav1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@dam11232 and that's what makes it even more poetic

    • @Ozymannaz
      @Ozymannaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Victory. Victory is better.

    • @yiftacheliav1099
      @yiftacheliav1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Ozymannaz idk man, just more turmoil and political schemes to deal with...

    • @DarthFhenix55
      @DarthFhenix55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@yiftacheliav1099I mean, Octavian won so much that nobody else was there to plot against him tbf.

  • @nemanjaarbutina8671
    @nemanjaarbutina8671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    Rome: Makes Caesar a God
    Tribune Aquila: I do not approve of this

    • @radrook4481
      @radrook4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Were they actually attacking those women under Hortensia? LOL!

    • @cdcdrr
      @cdcdrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @Carlos Adrián Aguirre Julius Caesar: Memelord of Antiquity

    • @slate1496
      @slate1496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ok guys tribune aquilla says no so caesar isnt a god amymore

    • @ECHOFOXTROT289
      @ECHOFOXTROT289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAOO

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The real joke is that in about 400 years someone else with a name starting with A will not approve of this and he'll actually get his way.

  • @MrSamulai
    @MrSamulai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Caesar was playing 4D chess with his enemies. I don't know what these guys were doing, but I'm pretty sure someone ate the rulebook.

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      MrSamulai they tried to win on a Draw 4 in Uno.

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Numbers! Sheer numbers!"

    • @blither4656
      @blither4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Hey let's tax HALF of all from yield what could go wrong"

    • @blither4656
      @blither4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Farm* not from

    • @leonardofranzinribeiro4220
      @leonardofranzinribeiro4220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doomdrake123 I mean, i hate that guy, but he was definitely a great strategist. Though he did get Lucky many times.

  • @Samdaman747
    @Samdaman747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Little cubes should not display so much emotion but here we are. Amazing how clear the story is with a few colors, very well done. The binge has been real with this channel and I've loved every minute of it.

  • @myownmusic8182
    @myownmusic8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    If Historia Civilis doesn't release another video soon, I'm going to Brutus myself

    • @oofnack
      @oofnack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he released a video on patrion. doubt he wouldn't

    • @kaizokujimbei143
      @kaizokujimbei143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please, don't... Brutulise yourself. xD

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +518

    I'm a simple pleb. I see Historia Civilis. I click Ave.

    • @uri_9158.
      @uri_9158. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      DCdabest Nah, you're not a pleb. Everyone that watches Historia Civilis are patricians.

    • @EthanDyTioco
      @EthanDyTioco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jotarô Kujo every man a patrician

    • @procrastinator99
      @procrastinator99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@uri_9158. I like the way you think.

    • @ablus
      @ablus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EthanDyTioco Hueyus Longinus

  • @tigersharkwoo
    @tigersharkwoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    this was impresive levels of inconpetance

    • @jarradscarborough7915
      @jarradscarborough7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      *impressive *incompetence (irony or just not native to english?)

    • @current9300
      @current9300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I've always felt that accidents and incompetence makes for most interesting history, especially when people screwing up are given a victory they also screw up.

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tigersharkwoo you got pinned gg

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      [Sheev.jpg] Ironic. [/Sheev.jpg]

    • @dorylaions
      @dorylaions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      why is this comment pinned? Is he doing a social experiment or something, lol?

  • @Sadaran89
    @Sadaran89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "But why would they do a stupid thing like that?"
    Find out in the next episode of Dragon Rome Z!

  • @SuperNintendawg
    @SuperNintendawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    That anecdote about Hortensia was absolutely fascinating. She marched into a public event, seized the mic from three of the most powerful men in the world, accused them of murdering Romans, articulated ideas about gender, governance, taxation, all thousands of years ahead of her time, and actually won. Beyond brave.

    • @masterexploder9668
      @masterexploder9668 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hortensia kind of forgot she didn't live in XX century CE.

    • @glovesflared
      @glovesflared 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@masterexploder9668she got what she wanted anyway despite the roman republic's severe sexism, that makes her accomplishment even more incredibly impressive

    • @notapuma
      @notapuma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@glovesflared"severe sexism", boy oh boy do you need to reread your Roman History.
      Roman's actually gave Roman Women (patricians) lots of leeway and power, especially since their husbands were often away on campaign and unable to manage their estates.
      If the Romans were "sexist" (ie, treating women like they always have been up until the 20th century), they would've been far more harsh than just giving in to their demands.

  • @hannahrothwell890
    @hannahrothwell890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    “The concept of economics had not been invented yet, and... it shows” lol

    • @Fronzel41
      @Fronzel41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Politicians still try to squeeze the tax base to fund their pet schemes and are still surprised when it gets up and walks away. See California.

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Ved Singh pre feudal rome was better than feudal Europe 😈😈😈😈

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ved Singh HAHAHAH bald

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ved Singh you are bald

    • @Leo-ip3yx
      @Leo-ip3yx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ved Singh LOL HOLY SHIT HE REALLY IS BALD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    I'm digging that "Slightly More Historically Accurate Senate Building Glam Up" 👉😊👉

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jesse H. Same

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

      After cutting to the Senate for the 10,000th time, I figured that "Lazy Senate Background" finally had to go.

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Historia Civilis I shall miss the old senate house, but I guess it’s for the best.

    • @yochaiwyss3843
      @yochaiwyss3843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@HistoriaCivilis technically we can say it's after renovation post burning down

    • @thepaintpad9817
      @thepaintpad9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HistoriaCivilis I like the old one more, but it's for the best.

  • @guardian-angel615
    @guardian-angel615 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I feel sad for both Cassius and Antony. Having to put up with shitty teammates sucks a lot.

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d feel a lot worse for Cassius and Antony if they hadn’t done such shitty things prior to this. Sacking Roman cities and selling their inhabitants into slavery? Pretty shitty Cassius. Murdering Cicero? You’re garbage Antony. Pure. Garbage.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cassius himself made the biggest mistake personally, even if he could have had military potential. Brutus might have lost right there if he had not bribed the legions

  • @Corfean
    @Corfean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    Brutus: I will be remembered as a virtuous man
    *Becomes the most famous traitor in world's history *

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @SrBeetleVase brutus already meant idiot or dullard in those days, the romans had funny naming conventions Fabius came from their word for bean, Cicero from peas, Ahala means armpit, and so on; funny that the word bruto has been used in the same way for over 3000 years.

    • @silverdeathgamer2907
      @silverdeathgamer2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      I mean I don't think he was an infamous as Judas.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@g.sergiusfidenas6650 Without the Carthaginians, I doubt we'd call weaklings "puny" today. Language is funny like that.

    • @barkasz6066
      @barkasz6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Silverdeathgamer290 the most famous historical person anyway. Myths are a whole different topic.

    • @barkasz6066
      @barkasz6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Fox D except it’s not true. Puny comes from 16th century French “puisne” which in turn comes from late Latin “postea ne” “afterwards born” which was a legal category denoting inferior rank. It has nothing to do with the Punic Wars. Punic derives from the Latin poenus and punicus, which were used mostly to refer to the Carthaginians and other western Phoenicians. These terms derived from the Ancient Greek word Φοῖνιξ (Phoinix), pl. Φοίνικες (Phoinikes), which was used indiscriminately to refer to both western and eastern Phoenicians. Latin later borrowed the Greek term a second time as phoenix.

  • @guibaterasoad
    @guibaterasoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    You realize how good of a general Caesar is when you have a battle with 4 generals and all of them are bad.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @CommandoDude Caesar was a genius of a general, but you got admit that dude was super lucky at times.

    • @Lucas-po6mn
      @Lucas-po6mn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@MillenniumRP Caesar definitely had some lucky moments, but it takes skill to seize those opportunities

    • @titusmanlius6922
      @titusmanlius6922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Antony was actually an excellent cavalry commander with battle experience

    • @yeeter5328
      @yeeter5328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@titusmanlius6922yeah and that was before the gaulic wars to I beleive, and he prolly wouldve learnt a lot under ceaser

    • @aakarshasoka6335
      @aakarshasoka6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Caeser's era had a lot of great generals and military commanders. Caeser, Pompey, Vercingeterix......

  • @chethanrao9994
    @chethanrao9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    ceasar and pompey watching all this from the underworld
    "we fought a civil war for this?"

  • @zheng7636
    @zheng7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    15:44
    When this series wants to be eerie, it can be surprisingly eerie.
    *Happy birthday.*

  • @MrEggsauce
    @MrEggsauce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +772

    On a previous episode of Historia Civilis: "...Brutis's first instinct seems to always be to wait, which is an alarming trait for a leader."
    Current episode:
    "I CHOOSE TO WAIT"

  • @mattthedoormat
    @mattthedoormat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    I waited almost 2 months for 20 minutes of Roman history.
    It was worth the wait.

    • @wyattrox03
      @wyattrox03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or you could become a patron and get access 10 days earlier

    • @HalfdanMCMX
      @HalfdanMCMX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Last one Rome video came out 4 months ago :( It's been a long time, been a long time
      Been a long lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time.

    • @alexanderman1000
      @alexanderman1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should seek counseling. I used to be an imperium junkie myself. I still watch Rome during Trajan but i am clean.

  • @matthewlillywhite8014
    @matthewlillywhite8014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I rewatch the whole series that Historia Civilis does from Cicero’s year until this moment every couple of months and every time I get depressed that there isn’t more... looking forward to the next episode

  • @Serioussux
    @Serioussux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Its hard to imagine how they could possibly screw this up, unless they turned on each other or something. But why would they do a stupid thing like that?" - Man, i cant wait for the sequel! :D

  • @pizzagolfer
    @pizzagolfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    Brutus: I will die a honorable man.
    Also Brutus: Ayyy men, wanna sack some Roman cities???

    • @rogerpark3684
      @rogerpark3684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      And yes, Brutus is an honourable man

    • @speggeri90
      @speggeri90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@rogerpark3684 Undoubtedly they are all honorable men

    • @theholyinquisition389
      @theholyinquisition389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Domantas *Killed his adoptive father to save the Republic

    • @AlexhandrDenthanor
      @AlexhandrDenthanor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@theholyinquisition389 *Murdered his adoptive father - who truly, deeply, sincerely loved him - out of ideological loyalty to a rotting carcass that was already dead and gone.

    • @Chaika1974
      @Chaika1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He is remembered as a staple of treachery. He went down in history as one of the most infamous people in Rome

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous incompetency

    • @yamingoat
      @yamingoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just Vienna this is a great quote lmfao

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It really hurts after seeing Caesars career

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What democracy?

    • @Vienna3080
      @Vienna3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Domanta Spot the 12 year old

    • @Desintyx2
      @Desintyx2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *attempts to clap and misses each hand*

  • @novacorp7110
    @novacorp7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    “Remembered for his virtue” welp that did not age well

    • @SerunaXI
      @SerunaXI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Remembered for his virtue" He's probably referring to his strict policy of waiting.

  • @lordedmundblackadder9321
    @lordedmundblackadder9321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Octavian had a habit of falling ill at convenient times” same

  • @JRMusic933
    @JRMusic933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    "The concept of economics hadn't been invented yet, and it shows" lmao

    • @alphamikeomega5728
      @alphamikeomega5728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Literally not stonks

    • @pez4
      @pez4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Roman tax collection was poopoo

    • @Urpuss
      @Urpuss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alphamikeomega5728 No stonks? Why live ;_;

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pez4 Augustus will fix that ;)

    • @IndieGinge
      @IndieGinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pez4 didn't they basically subcontract it to the guy who they thought would get them the most $? Or was that another ancient society's incredibly stupid way of doing things?

  • @kaulquapil6280
    @kaulquapil6280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    I miss the old beat at the end

  • @PossessedPotatoBird
    @PossessedPotatoBird ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:05, I find this really funny
    Like they just started collecting the triumphants family

  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo7825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “We’re just trying to get you to turn against your own husband! And you rudely send us away?!” -Hortensia probably

  • @BongoDrumme
    @BongoDrumme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    ALL RIGHT BOYS CLEAR YOUR SCHEDULES HISTORIA CIVILIS JUST CAME OUT WITH ANOTHER BANGER !!!

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not sure what this means but that doesn't mean I don't want to be involved

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thing I don’t have to drive right now. Productivity have been shot to zero.

  • @TheMr77469
    @TheMr77469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I was expecting the Octavian square to have little green squares coming out of him as her moved side to side on the ship.

    • @Spazmonkey625
      @Spazmonkey625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wouldn't that mean he's vomiting people though?

    • @derekp2236
      @derekp2236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Vomiting Gauls probably they are normally green.

    • @yochaiwyss3843
      @yochaiwyss3843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@derekp2236 or did he eat Cicero

    • @Zoey--
      @Zoey-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@derekp2236 I laughed far too hard at this mental image.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yochaiwyss3843 Haw Haw Haw

  • @perigrin2115
    @perigrin2115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As a massive history geek lemme just say props to you for making a lot of normal human beings who are not nearly as autistic as us interested in roman politics and moving squares

  • @kelseythurman2314
    @kelseythurman2314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please don't ever stop. These videos are absolutely amazing. Thank you for bringing these to us for free!

  • @RGP43_
    @RGP43_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +919

    Tribune Aquila does not approve this message

    • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
      @a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I’m gonna ask Tribune Aquila if I can say “go f*** yourself” to him

    • @madreel8938
      @madreel8938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They couldn’t ask him anymore at this point

    • @impii552
      @impii552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      OoOoooOOoOooh NoOoOoOoOoOoOo~

    • @DarthMeteos
      @DarthMeteos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tribune Aquila died in this video.

    • @luciuspontiusaquila-tribun5447
      @luciuspontiusaquila-tribun5447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@a.h.tvideomapping4293 Don't

  • @canpiv09
    @canpiv09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    You know, the way you talk about Labienus, I'm getting the impression that "Caesar's right hand man" might have just been his first name.

  • @davestewart5224
    @davestewart5224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This series is absolutely enthralling. Some of the best content I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Can’t wait to see what happened next ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @samlincoln1
    @samlincoln1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After watching all the videos on ceasers battles this is just painful

  • @clayallen4955
    @clayallen4955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    “We got you a present for your birthday, death!”
    “Oh you guys.”

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just what I asked for!

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "You shouldn’t have! No really, I wanted live through this."

    • @Mitaka.Kotsuka
      @Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No better present for traitors =)

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mitaka.Kotsuka that's like saying the Jedi were traitors.

    • @Mitaka.Kotsuka
      @Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlitzerXYZ errr.... kinda dont like star wars, so i kind of sont know what the Jedi actually are, i heard the name but, nothing else

  • @DensetsuVII
    @DensetsuVII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    *spoilers 21:15 "It's hard to imagine how they could screw this up, unless they turned on each other or something, but why would they do a stupid thing like that!"
    *Cleopatra has entered the chat

  • @eugenefros9655
    @eugenefros9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey! Dude, your videos are incredible. I had to finally give in to my conscience and pledge a little on Patreon for all the incredible content you've posted over the last few years. Can't wait for the next one, as always.

  • @herrheroin606
    @herrheroin606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far my favorite youtube channel. The narrating, animations and music is just so good. Never change

  • @darkseidshrike6165
    @darkseidshrike6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1221

    Brutus: I will be remembered for my virtue.
    Historian: We are not questioning your virtue Brutus. We are denying it’s existence.

    • @IndieGinge
      @IndieGinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@caiawlodarski5339 That's really not true. Historians usually try not to "moralize" but they very often do make value judgments of the choices of those they study.
      The work of history is a work of storytelling after all. An attempt to piece together events separated from us by time and space into a coherent, explitive narrative to create an understanding of the past using the barest scraps of info. This story is not a simple morality fable, so we don't see historians usually crafting "good guys and bad guys" but judgments of what choices were made always happen. It's the way of things.

    • @frederickthegreat5456
      @frederickthegreat5456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      But... Shakespeare
      I mean, I'm willing to bet that more people are aware of Brutus in Julius Caesar than Brutus in real life.

    • @vinuzo9548
      @vinuzo9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ah cut him some slack, he's better than Marc Antony.

    • @micah8488
      @micah8488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I don't think he'd care to have his virtue questioned by an imp.

    • @darkseidshrike6165
      @darkseidshrike6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@micah8488 Finally someone understood that reference!

  • @saidtoshimaru1832
    @saidtoshimaru1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Brutus: I will be remembered for my Virtue.
    Dante: I was looking for someone to cast into Satan's three jaws next to Judas and Casius.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean - Brutus was a horrible person

    • @flyerton99
      @flyerton99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, the guy that literally promised the ability to sack ROMAN cities to his legions.

    • @tomasrocha6139
      @tomasrocha6139 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Plutarch, in his "Life of Brutus" from Parallel Lives, mentions that Brutus' enemies respected him, recounting that Antony once said that "Brutus was the only man to have slain Caesar because he was driven by the splendour and nobility of the deed

  • @CptUSMC
    @CptUSMC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite Channel on TH-cam. Thank you for all of your work oh, it is greatly appreciated!

  • @dominix5548
    @dominix5548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is fantastic and the effort you put into each video is astonishing.
    You've taken a hard road compared to many other content creators, but I know I've seriously benefited and learned from your videos. I get really excited when you drop a new one, and I appreciate that you don't rush and compromise the quality; even though you are financially incentivized to do so.
    Take my money and *please* keep doing this!

  • @jonathanskinner7647
    @jonathanskinner7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Civis: the battle was a draw
    Caesar in heaven: unacceptable! UNACCEPTABLE!

    • @ourowndevices5907
      @ourowndevices5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Caesar ain't in heaven if there is one

    • @ToughCheese
      @ToughCheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ourowndevices5907 Why not?

    • @jyanbei
      @jyanbei 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Majestic BreadDX not a religious man myself but im game, so lets start with the entirety of western Europe..

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ToughCheese I'm fairly sure that no matter what god that you prey to if you commit genocide you are automatically banished from heaven. Caesar is in the same afterlife club as Hitler and King Leopold II.

    • @vaderbuckeye36
      @vaderbuckeye36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      he's in Elysium, with all of the other great Romans up through Majorian.

  • @emermage
    @emermage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +729

    Caesar vs Pompey:
    Full mankind's military brilliancy from both sides
    Brutus vs Octavian:
    Two kids, trying to slap each other, trying to look like their elders from the first part of my comment, only slaping themselves instead

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Денис Баннов 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @UncleMerlin
      @UncleMerlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      It's what can you expect from statesmen.
      Caesar and Pompey were generals.

    • @allancg1022
      @allancg1022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Caesar and Pompey, especially Caesar, were both

    • @demitriusrawluk5747
      @demitriusrawluk5747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@UncleMerlin Antony was anything but a statesman

    • @yunleung2631
      @yunleung2631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hell, Caesar vs Vercingetorix

  • @thorinstrandberg9116
    @thorinstrandberg9116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. Thanks for the consistently awesome content. I found this channel in a reddit suggestion thread a year ago and haven't looked back-- consistently better than anything on history channel. Digestible, interesting, entertaining, these videos are probably my favorite video content to watch on the internet. Thanks!

  • @cariocaemfuria3946
    @cariocaemfuria3946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos. Really wandering why they are becoming rare lately. Hope you don't give up on us. Salutations from Brazil!

  • @rgm96x49
    @rgm96x49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    In all fairness to Octavian, dude knew he wasn't exactly a top-tier commander. Lucky for him he did have Agrippa.

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Their future successors came in the form of Justinian and Belisarius. Top 10 historical bromances indeed.

    • @thomashazlewood4658
      @thomashazlewood4658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, Agrippa allowed himself to be outflanked, saw his entire army routed? Perhaps Agrippa was falsely lauded for his martial skills? I know of no strategem or tactical innovation attributed to him. Pompey's son was strangling Rome and Agrippa never got the better of him. I think Agrippa benefitted from being a survivor and being on the side that eventually won.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@thomashazlewood4658 Agrippa only became Octavian's main general after the death of Salvidienus Rufus, at the time this battle takes place he still had not obtained that position and he was the one that eventually expelled Sextus Pompeius from Sicily, his whole career is one of competence and success, not sure if that alone is enough to put him among the great generals of history but I think he is comfortably the best roman general of his generation alongside maybe Ventidius Bassus.

    • @thomashazlewood4658
      @thomashazlewood4658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sealdeam Thanks for your views, Sealdeam. However, it is my understanding that Sextus' fleets strangled Rome's grain supplies, to the frustration of Augustus. Augustus built two large fleets to fight him and both were lost, while the grain embargo continued. Finally, Sextus was lured into a political agreement which resolved the embargo. He was not defeated militarily, he was seduced into defeat by clever politics.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thomashazlewood4658 it is true that Octavian failed to defeat Sextus and that eventually a treaty was signed between him and the Triumvirs but that peace was broken and the eventual fall of Sextus was due a successful military campaign led by Agrippa, it is more than likely that Octavian's own failures against Sextus were the main factor that lead to his decision to fully delegate military affairs to more capable members of his faction namely Agrippa and Statilius Taurus; but the cause of the start of hostilities between them was due the defection of one of Sextus' generals so intrigue also played a part in that conflict.

  • @whynot-tomorrow_1945
    @whynot-tomorrow_1945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    lol, all of Caesar's battles have been like:
    * brilliant tactics, strategy, and maneuver coupled with bold construction projects *
    meanwhile, we got the kids fighting here like:
    * the incompetence happened to work in his favor *

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * fortifications and camps all over the place for some reason *

    • @tianshi2006
      @tianshi2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all
      Caesar, known for his sonic like speed, went across the water too early, losing many many triemes and troops needlessly.
      One of his very few tactical mistakes few know.
      He bossed mutinous legions though ie his favoured 10th

  • @jamesodom4980
    @jamesodom4980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is so precious, I actually watch the ads on your video in appreciation. And I hate ads.

  • @frankbaiamonte3158
    @frankbaiamonte3158 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably my 3rd or 4th time watching through this video. Great job narrating and commenting these videos are why I love history so much. Your story telling and speculation of sources shows history is so much more than a fact of a matter but a dynamic story with many different truths and perspectives. Keep up the good work.

  • @kulpykulptington2715
    @kulpykulptington2715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I'm a simple man. I see a historia civilis video I watch it.

  • @selfawaretrashcan4594
    @selfawaretrashcan4594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    There goes my morning productivity

  • @Stickyrolls123
    @Stickyrolls123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm subscribed to dozens of histhistory channels and yours is one of the best. I wish you made videos more frequently.

  • @danielmaurer1572
    @danielmaurer1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We're anxiously awaiting your newest installment to this one, HC! Bring it on!

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1624

    Nice!

    • @juliuscaesar8925
      @juliuscaesar8925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Kings and Generals didn't expect to see you here.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      @@juliuscaesar8925 why not? Historia Civilis is OG.

    • @anvl86
      @anvl86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@KingsandGenerals A collab with Historia Civilis would be epic!

    • @wingedhussar4219
      @wingedhussar4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@KingsandGenerals would you ever collab?

    • @bihanj5284
      @bihanj5284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Antoine Vl hell yea

  • @erolaras7268
    @erolaras7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Does everybody here still miss Labienus or am I just weird? I was somewhat happy to hear his name in this video.
    Good night my sweet prince...

    • @endlesshalcyon
      @endlesshalcyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Poor Labienus... I miss him too.

    • @carolinef1508
      @carolinef1508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I really miss Labienus-square😪😍

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All the people I mess
      1. Crassus (Died 53 BC, marking the end of the Triumvirate) - While many see him as a politician with no military talent - But like, he won so many before Carrhae
      2. Labienus (Died 45 BC, marking the end of the Civil war)
      3. Caesar (Died 44 BC, marking the end of the Republic)
      4. Cicero (Died 43 BC, marking the end of all remaining chances of restoring the republic)
      When was Rome founded? 753 BC
      When was Rome lost? 753 AD
      When was the Roman empire destroyed? 474 AD
      When was the Roman empire Destroyed? 1456 AD
      When was the Roman empire destroyed? When brutes killed the man in charge
      When was the Roman kingdom destroyed? When Brutus killed the man in charge
      When was the Roman republic destroyed? When Brutus killed the man in charge
      When did Brutus kill the man in charge? in 509 BC
      When did Brutus kill the man in charge? In 44 BC
      When did brutes kill the man in charge? In 1453 AD
      Who was the first Roman ruler? Romulus
      Who was the first Roman emperor? Augustus
      Who was the last Emperor/Ruler? Romulus Augustulus
      Who was the last Roman Emperor/ruler? Constantine Augustus

    • @TheEnergizer94
      @TheEnergizer94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like more than one girl watches this channel and I think it's pretty cool

    • @sjsbviufvibwvuspi
      @sjsbviufvibwvuspi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 no the guy in charge of the roman kingdom was banished not killed

  • @krootmen
    @krootmen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please remember we miss and love your videos

  • @abootlegcat
    @abootlegcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please never stop making these videos. You are a gem.