Antony's Invasion of Parthia (42 to 33 B.C.E.)

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  • @alfonsoarroyo3283
    @alfonsoarroyo3283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9127

    "I'm not saying there was foul play... I'm just saying Anthony definitively murdered his wife."

    • @dantedeleon993
      @dantedeleon993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      I busted out laughing!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ligierthegreensun
      @Ligierthegreensun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      HE BELONGS IN JAIL lmao

    • @alsatusmd1A13
      @alsatusmd1A13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      …if by “murder” you mean “allow her to kill herself”.

    • @MikaelKKarlsson
      @MikaelKKarlsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      So just politics then. 😉

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      All the other Romans just divorced their political wives as soon as a better alliance came up, but Antony didn't want to deal with the paperwork I guess.

  • @CreepsMcPasta
    @CreepsMcPasta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5999

    I swear Antony's story is just everyone around him succeeding at what he wanted to do

    • @secretscipio
      @secretscipio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      My two favourite TH-camrs at one place.

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      "everyone around him succeeding at what he wanted to do"
      Up until the point where Antony was able to finally snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    • @ArcAngle1117
      @ArcAngle1117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@DerbyPorcelain He might have gotten Crassused if he had just marched into the open plains of Mesopotamia. Antony's plan for his Invasion of Partia was pretty good except for his long supply lines(and his inability to protect them)

    • @jamiengo2343
      @jamiengo2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @@DerbyPorcelain though to be fair, whether Ventidius could’ve conducted a campaign into Parthia with his relatively few legions is unlikely. Staying in Syria was probably the best option

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I feel kind of bad for Antony. He's in way over his head. Everybody knew he was an idiot except himself.

  • @LoudRevised
    @LoudRevised 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4085

    *The Son of Labienus led the Parthian Army*
    Wait hold up, you can’t just drop that lore outta no where.

    • @AlexKwiatek
      @AlexKwiatek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +830

      In Philippi episode he foreshadowed that and told us that Labienus jr. was sent east to negotiate Parthian support for Liberators ;) i wish we knew more about it, but as HC said, sources are pretty poor for this war

    • @UrosDrljaca
      @UrosDrljaca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Oh my God. Go Labienus Jr

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

      Yeah what the hell. A roman suddenly commanding foreign forces against rome?

    • @LostShipMate
      @LostShipMate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      God I wish there was more information on this.

    • @atuema1602
      @atuema1602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      He had made an alliance with the Parthians in order to revive the Pompeian cause. He was originally there either because he had fled to Parthia or because he was sent there by Brutus and Cassius to obtain reinforcements for Philippi.

  • @ethanalspencer7294
    @ethanalspencer7294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2476

    Ventidius reportedly didn't pursue the Parthians further because he was concerned that he'd incur Antony's jealousy if he did so. I like to imagine Ventidius was the ultimate straight-man in all this dramatic high Roman politics, he saw how nuts all these major players were and dipped to the countryside rather than get dragged in to it all.

    • @pokeman5000
      @pokeman5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +446

      Yep, never outshine the master... Unless you can successfully kill the master and take his place. The dude took his W, cashed in his chips, and retired to his land/family/slaves/money. Arguably the smartest guy in Rome considering the climate of the empire at the time.
      Or they low-key killed him to avoid a competent general falling to the other side. I'd argue the latter.

    • @lorefox201
      @lorefox201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      "yikes, I think I'll just get back to my family's farms..."
      Ventidius, 1st century BC

    • @misterpayah7723
      @misterpayah7723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      Brilliant man. Got his triumph, got recorded positively in the history books, and died peacefully. Definitely inspired by Caesar.

    • @jiffylou98
      @jiffylou98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Even more Labienus than Labienus’ own son

    • @BudMasta
      @BudMasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      A win is a win, peace out yo - Ventidius, probably

  • @zheng7636
    @zheng7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2967

    Antony said his wife aggravated her own illness, and we know Antony is an honorable man.

    • @Number1Irishlad
      @Number1Irishlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      this is emphasized by his outstanding performance as a Consel of Rome in Caesar's stead while he was off in Egypt

    • @waluigisbean3148
      @waluigisbean3148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Just like we knew Brutus was an honourable man

    • @aristophanesghost3839
      @aristophanesghost3839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      All honourable men.

    • @zheng7636
      @zheng7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      @@Boboa48 It's a line from Shakespeare's play on Caesar, bro. After Caesar's death, Antony used this line in his speech to indirectly call out his murderers for justifying themselves. It's a pretty powerful moment.

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@Boboa48 r/woosh

  • @literallyjudas2157
    @literallyjudas2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1875

    Cant wait to listen to this 15 times over the next week to get repeatedly angry at Antony's failures.

    • @literallyjudas2157
      @literallyjudas2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ?

    • @Togro1990
      @Togro1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      totally ready for the next square to be mad at

    • @yevgeniygorbachev5152
      @yevgeniygorbachev5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I'm torn between being more angry at Antony vs Octavian. On one hand, Antony was vain and threw an allied kingdom under the bus for a strategic miscalculation on Antony's part, but on the other, Octavian violated their agreement and denied Antony the chance to reorganize the Roman West.

    • @YTuseraL2694
      @YTuseraL2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yevgeniygorbachev5152 west, or east?

    • @yevgeniygorbachev5152
      @yevgeniygorbachev5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@YTuseraL2694 I meant East, sorry.

  • @tribunepontiusaquila1152
    @tribunepontiusaquila1152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3798

    Who gave him permission to invade parthia? I sure as hell didn't

    • @decimusausoniusmagnus5719
      @decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +369

      Can I pee, Mister Aquila, Sir?

    • @jiffylou98
      @jiffylou98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +402

      Tribune Aquila, my wife has been in labor for a week and a half, could you please permit her birthing my twins?

    • @robertgouldshaw2041
      @robertgouldshaw2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hello

    • @desertexplorer8359
      @desertexplorer8359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      HAHA thats soo good, hilarious mann

    • @achilles7736
      @achilles7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh, good one

  • @1002-o9c
    @1002-o9c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +713

    Cool fact: Cleopatra Selene, Cleopatra's and Antony's daughter have married king Juba the second of Numidia, and their pyramid shaped shrine still stands today in Algeria, not far from the capital Algiers. And is locally known as the "Tomb of the roman lady".

    • @tagmata1872
      @tagmata1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Wow that’s actually pretty cool

    • @mini_bunney
      @mini_bunney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      that is indeed a cool fact, and it led me into a half hour wikipedia binge, reading about her and Juba II, their son Ptolemy, and trying to figure out if the bloodline ended there or maybe continued through either their daughter Drusilla or their grand-daughter, also Drusilla :D

    • @METALFREAK03
      @METALFREAK03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@mini_bunney This is funny to me as my Great-Great Auntie was called Drusilla...who was tamely called "the witch of the east" (she resided in Malta at the time a British Colony)

    • @thenorthshow3655
      @thenorthshow3655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@METALFREAK03 you cant just drop that and not say more about it

    • @yulusleonard985
      @yulusleonard985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was featured on history civilis Roman Triumph?

  • @yevgeniygorbachev5152
    @yevgeniygorbachev5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2579

    I would like to congratulate Antony on becoming pregnant once more.

    • @bpouelas
      @bpouelas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Big congrats to the guy. Pretty sure that really happened.

    • @naomiskilling1093
      @naomiskilling1093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      So do we send the baby shower gifts to Rome or to Alexandria?

    • @Julianna.Domina
      @Julianna.Domina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@naomiskilling1093 Yes.

    • @ericsilver9401
      @ericsilver9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@naomiskilling1093 No

    • @patricianoftheplebs6015
      @patricianoftheplebs6015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@naomiskilling1093 send them to Parthia just like Crassus ;)

  • @alanfox8928
    @alanfox8928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    “Anthony and Cleopatra spent the next four days locked in aggressive negotiations”
    I’d say they did alright

  • @ProsperOn
    @ProsperOn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +670

    This is ark is definitely more interesting than the Pompey/Caesar dynamic. Anthony being a thick headed narcissist and Octavian being a nerdy sociopath makes for more insane twists and turns than two competent generals actually duking it out.

    • @vallytine
      @vallytine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      It's more chaotic that's for sure. The Pompey/Caesar stuff had this air of professionalism to it, whereas the Second Triumvirate just feels like absolute power in absolutely the wrong hands.

    • @gmat5046
      @gmat5046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depends on what kind of story you like. History is full of em.

    • @Clementine_D
      @Clementine_D 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth!

    • @gmat5046
      @gmat5046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Clementine_D Good characters make good stories

    • @mightycannon1512
      @mightycannon1512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Tbh I like caesar vs pompey more

  • @Kanner111
    @Kanner111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    Arguably, getting out of Parthia with only 50% of your army starving to death in the cold represents real progress compared to the previous campaign!
    Never give up on your dreams!

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Maybe next time we'll only lose 25%.

    • @michaeldunn5337
      @michaeldunn5337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@alanpennie8013 by the 4th time after definitely losing the 3rd time, who knows whats possible, actually winning? Crazy stuff

    • @Atomhaz
      @Atomhaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Around 2000 years later and we still get to dunk on Antony. Cicero would be proud.

    • @wiritpollapcharoenporn3168
      @wiritpollapcharoenporn3168 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mean the Crassius blunder... that one is brutal

  • @Saurophaganax1931
    @Saurophaganax1931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Fun fact Ventidius is one of those examples of a subordinate being objectively more competent than their superior. After Ventidius had turned back the Parthians he laid siege to Antiochus of Commagene. One of the local Roman leaders who had turned coat and sided with the Parthians. By the time Mark Antony had arrived in Asia Minor, Antiochus was attempting to sue for peace with Ventidius and was offering 1000 talents of silver in order to lift the the siege. However, craving a bit of glory for his own, Antony turned down the offer and took over the siege from Ventidius. As soon as command of the siege changed hands it almost immediately took a turn for the worse. Antony absolutely bungled the whole affair and ended up suing for peace anyways. However, This time Antony only received 300 talents of silver, instead of the 1000 that Ventidius had managed to negotiate previously.

  • @Trolligarch
    @Trolligarch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1146

    "Ok I'm going to stop procrastinating and do some work."
    Notification: Historia Civilis has uploaded
    "Oh no."

    • @andrewmartin9379
      @andrewmartin9379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Literally exactly what happened to me

    • @jamiee7367
      @jamiee7367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @bugrilyus
      @bugrilyus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shut pff your phone for a week man, try it. No screen time, good sleep, good food, good work.

    • @OttomanDrifter91
      @OttomanDrifter91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, same. Also, don't forget to hate Antony.

    • @sriharshacv7760
      @sriharshacv7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TBH, he uploads once an year. Not such a big thing.

  • @dylantaylor3139
    @dylantaylor3139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    I can't believe Antony may or may not have killed his wife.

    • @zimmerwald1915
      @zimmerwald1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You can't believe he may or may not have, because he definitely did it. You should believe that instead.

    • @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
      @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Listen and believe > trust but verify.

    • @sanguiniusi8187
      @sanguiniusi8187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you had watched the video in its entirety you would now.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler what an accurate representation of modern politics

    • @Marc-pu8bu
      @Marc-pu8bu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antony's Cat

  • @evanmalcolm4724
    @evanmalcolm4724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    unironically, even considering the minimalist style, the graphics and animation on these videos only continues to get better and better. the camera movement is so smooth and the tiny little animation details, like on Cleopatra's ship, are amazing

  • @lemonchaos4785
    @lemonchaos4785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Ventidius accidentally on purpose won the campaign in like 3 moves while Antony was trying to put together an army to face them💀

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      "Why are you back here, did they break through?"
      "Who?"
      "The Parthians!!"
      "Ah those mucks. Dead"

  • @caijuu7775
    @caijuu7775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "Hmm, how should I illustrate that Antony has fallen to drinking and is near-constantly inebriated? ...Oh I know I'll make the whole army spin!"

    • @rgddydshevchenko2448
      @rgddydshevchenko2448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They were standing on the grave of cicero, who's intense spinning moved the land over him with him

  • @lagmeister3215
    @lagmeister3215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    As soon as Antony left those supply wagons behind, I knew it was going to be a disaster for the campaign

    • @dvened
      @dvened 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      gotta go fast!

    • @plzitzjustmahcheezits909
      @plzitzjustmahcheezits909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Julianus Vatinius, am I glad to see you here

    • @claymeistereu
      @claymeistereu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      the chekov's supply train

    • @shingshongshamalama
      @shingshongshamalama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Infantry wins battles. Logistics wins wars.

    • @interestingtimes3296
      @interestingtimes3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean he just gambled and got unlucky when he did that.

  • @vaylonkenadell
    @vaylonkenadell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    "It was around this time that Antony became pregnant once more..."
    Save it for the fanfiction sites!

    • @Guanaco17
      @Guanaco17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No... , no... , no... .

    • @michaelmoran9020
      @michaelmoran9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The Virgin HBO Rome Vs the chad ABO Rome

    • @nameless-user
      @nameless-user 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Scom Tott What are you doing?! *STOP*

  • @sirjoey3137
    @sirjoey3137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    It's been 6 months and you still haven't followed up on this episode yet, it hurts because I'm so invested. This is easily my favourite series on youtube, I hope you know how much people appreciate your work my guy.

    • @mattthedoormat
      @mattthedoormat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's working on the next video. You can see his progress on his website. I think he mentioned on Twitter that the audio for the video is going to be at least an hour long, so that might be why it's taking so long to make the next episode.

    • @portland9880
      @portland9880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, can't wait for more

  • @Sangokun1
    @Sangokun1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +734

    Fluvia dies. Doctors: "She lost the will to live."

    • @cheerfulpessimist952
      @cheerfulpessimist952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete?

    • @Novous
      @Novous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Anakin totally killed padme

    • @redlobster1143
      @redlobster1143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Novous technically, it was palpatine who did it

    • @jackj9816
      @jackj9816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheerfulpessimist952 Antony draws sword “ check again “

    • @miguelmontenegro3520
      @miguelmontenegro3520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Antony: Yeaa I mean....NOOOOOOOOO

  • @francescomazzei4111
    @francescomazzei4111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Anthony: "OMG the Parthians have broke through, we're royally screwed !!! Ventidius, take these few men and please, please, slow them down a tiny bit by diying"
    Ventidius: "Hold my vinum, ya little Cleo's bitch. I'm gonna blew away those Parthians' whole campaign"

  • @lonelittlejerry917
    @lonelittlejerry917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    "It's at this time Antony took to heavy drinking"
    Feel like I've heard this somewhere before

    • @ryangrear3430
      @ryangrear3430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yea i heard that and was like "wait THIS is when it started what the hell was he doing before"

    • @thibautnarme6402
      @thibautnarme6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ryangrear3430 He was just partying, social drinking you know the amount and habit that are completely acceptable fir an elite Roman...

    • @ryangrear3430
      @ryangrear3430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@thibautnarme6402 you sure I distinctly remember a certain Lupercalia festival and more importantly an number of time he walked into the senate drunk (while being Caesar’s master of horse)
      But yea I get what you mean it’s really bad when even his supporters are saying he is drinking excessively (actually considering his life I’m surprised gout didn’t kill him)

    • @kanrup5199
      @kanrup5199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe one Roman general once took to heavy drinking getting besieged by rabid Egyptians...or am I mistaken?

    • @lonelittlejerry917
      @lonelittlejerry917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kanrup5199 precisely

  • @bun197
    @bun197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I'm sure that Herod guy will turn out to be a nice king

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Anything to the contrary is religious propaganda.

    • @bun197
      @bun197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@seneca983 I made a redditor seethe lol

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bun197 Where?

    • @eazyv2069
      @eazyv2069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seneca983 muh

    • @leemarshall348
      @leemarshall348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Herod, what a nice sounding guy. Im sure wont commit mass infanticide in hopes of killing the son of God.

  • @conchobarcampbell3200
    @conchobarcampbell3200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    How much longer do I need to wait for a follow up to this ? It is killing me, this is the longest break he has took between videos . I hope he is doing okay

    • @brogant6793
      @brogant6793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Congress of Vienna: “oh HELLO THERE”

    • @aj9306
      @aj9306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@brogant6793 He still hasn't finished the Rome series, I hope he at least does one final one with the battle of Actium.

    • @villagemagician1320
      @villagemagician1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. He's really starting to piss me off

    • @villagemagician1320
      @villagemagician1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brogant6793 because so many people who are just holding their breath waiting for that to be released... What a jerk.

    • @MrChristmasshorts
      @MrChristmasshorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@villagemagician1320 Why on earth does he need to do something he isnt contractually bound to do... just because you want him to do it.

  • @cfdj43
    @cfdj43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I feel like "the son of Caesar's right hand man leading a Parthian army against Rome" needs some more explaining than it gets in this video...

    • @renerpho
      @renerpho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes. Unfortunately the details are lost to history. We know (and he did mention this in a previous video) that Labienus was sent to Parthia to gather reinforcements. However, what happened in the years after that is a mystery.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@renerpho
      It's not that much of a mystery.
      Quintus was aligned with The Liberators and was exploiting Antony's incompetent government of The East to revive their cause.
      The Parthians supported him because it was pretty evident that Antony would invade Parthia if left alone.
      One weird detail supplied by Dio is that Quintus adopted the ironic title Parthicus (conquerer of Parthia).

  • @thesenate5913
    @thesenate5913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Antony: Caesarion is now heir
    Octavian: *and i took that personally*

  • @cartmann94
    @cartmann94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Purple was the color of royalty. It was so because it was very difficult to obtain the dye. It jnvolved crushing marine snails 🐌 and boiling them to obtain the chemicals needed for dying the cloth.

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cowery shells

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      OR.... it could also involve mixing blue dye and red dye together in a vat.

    • @xSayresthx
      @xSayresthx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Dave_Sisson the purple you're thinking about was called "false purple". And the process of obtaining blue was expensive too, at least at the time, and the colour obtained just wasn't the same as royal purple.

    • @lycaonpictus9662
      @lycaonpictus9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dave_Sisson That didn't work with ancient dyes. If you wanted something dyed purple, you had to spend a fortune for it. It is why the color became associated with royalty.

  • @wicker4526
    @wicker4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    When you fail to conquer Parthia so naturally you make your 5-year-old son the king of it

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To be fair the 5 year old would have probably done a better job

  • @iliasfilip2110
    @iliasfilip2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    The Western Empire: A perfect map
    The Eastern Empire: A map made by a 7 year old

    • @waltervanbrunchem2462
      @waltervanbrunchem2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Probably because the borders of the west were mostly defined by rivers, contrary to the east, where there were more 'made up' borders.

    • @Πολιτεία-λ6σ
      @Πολιτεία-λ6σ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@waltervanbrunchem2462 You are seriously confusing 20th century Middle Eastern history with Ancient Middle Eastern history here.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@waltervanbrunchem2462 Because rivers borders are totally not made up, I mean there's just thousands of rivers in Europe, it's logical to split countries following these specific rivers there :p
      All frontiers are made up ^^

    • @sunjasonjb2773
      @sunjasonjb2773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think he just means that the shape of the land in general is really wonky

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@krankarvolund7771 Sort of. One could build bridges and ferries over rivers to push the frontier farther away if one wanted. Caesar moved into German territory once and delcared it a triumph and a Roman accomplishment of invasion.
      But pragmatically, it's just easier to defend territory if you stop at a river, a mountain range, or some other natural barrier to travel.
      North Africa and the Middle East have deserts, but those are HYUGE. A definite border is MUCH less clear along a desert than along a river or a sudden increase in evelation.

  • @bwanaugonjwa2445
    @bwanaugonjwa2445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Historia Civillis doesn’t post often, but when he does, I drop everything.

    • @muhammadhammadkhan6830
      @muhammadhammadkhan6830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I watched this video in a barbershop, which is even more amusing cause I am never this early to any video, let alone a Historia Civilis video.

    • @NecromancyForKids
      @NecromancyForKids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You must have a lot of broken things.

    • @Colddirector
      @Colddirector 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NecromancyForKids He would if HC uploaded more often.

    • @ARISUinW0NDERLAND
      @ARISUinW0NDERLAND 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NecromancyForKids I can't believe no one has liked this!

  • @jlaurenpiano
    @jlaurenpiano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "Antony bad brain dumb dumb stupid" had me on the floor laughing for several minutes

  • @luccon8567
    @luccon8567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    30:12 - The cutest and best thing I've yet to hear ever. Please can we get more bloopers??? Your laugh is the purest thing ever!

    • @cyruscheng499
      @cyruscheng499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      His laugh makes me wanna be pregnant 30:16

    • @Cubelarooso
      @Cubelarooso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyruscheng499 Pronatalism is child abuse.

    • @antonioducc4501
      @antonioducc4501 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@cyruscheng499 ayo what????????????

  • @croftyprojects
    @croftyprojects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Antony took to heavy drinking"
    *box starts spinning*

  • @runkelpokk9
    @runkelpokk9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really hope you continue the Rome series one day, I enjoy the modern era videos too, but the roman ones just hit different rip little squares

  • @henrybricks2953
    @henrybricks2953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    1:36
    It seems that it will fall to factionalism
    **Shows Dancing squares**

  • @radar4763
    @radar4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    "... aggravated her illness deliberatly ..." Maybe she got the news about Cleo and was heartbroken and stood with only a nightgown in the wind till she got a pneumonia. Then Anthony could have killed her just by telling the news.

    • @pathutchison7688
      @pathutchison7688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      or maybe she went to bed with wet hair. sounds like something my grandma woulda claimed.

    • @jonahpool3610
      @jonahpool3610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would watch this period drama

    • @TyranyFighterPatriot
      @TyranyFighterPatriot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonahpool3610 lol me too I can't breathe from laughing just imagining it 😂🤣

  • @tempheror112
    @tempheror112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Man, I'm such a sucker for these videos.

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Phartia to the Romans: "How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man!"

    • @themiband0598
      @themiband0598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fartia?

    • @barackhusseinosama9189
      @barackhusseinosama9189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Laughs in Trajan and Lucius Verus

    • @Nimish204
      @Nimish204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Laughs in Ventidius Bassus

    • @thedude5294
      @thedude5294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barackhusseinosama9189 but everthing changed whne the Sassanids attacked.

    • @lycaonpictus9662
      @lycaonpictus9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barackhusseinosama9189 Don't forget Septimius Severus. His sack of the Parthian capital of Ctesiphon carted off so much plunder that staved off a European economic crisis for several decades. It also fatally weakened the Parthian empire and set the stage for it's collapse & the rise of the Sassanids.

  • @bp9696
    @bp9696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'm a simple man. I see a Historia Civilis video, I grab my popcorn and click.

  • @wernermarais8493
    @wernermarais8493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    "I'm not saying that he killed his wife, but he did do that and I am saying that."
    and . . .
    "Say what you will about Tony, and I have and I will"
    classic

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t get it what’s the relationship with iron man

  • @fdumbass
    @fdumbass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1509

    Honestly Anthony seems smart af on some issues and dumb as a rock on others. Even though he's despicable in lots of ways, I feel like he's a weirdly human character in all of this.

    • @canadabacon4
      @canadabacon4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Just was NOT a tactician

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      @@canadabacon4 He was a better tactician than Octavian though. Arguably, tactics was his stronger suit, and his politics became shrewd only when Cleopatra started "helping" him. Competence level was just overall much lower in this generation than in the one before

    • @louie97ation
      @louie97ation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      Some people are just incredibly specialized. Antony didn’t always play to his strengths.

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      There was someone who once said Antony kinda just seems like an officer who got lucky beyond his wildest dreams

    • @luizamorim8265
      @luizamorim8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      He seems like a somewhat smart guy who thinks he is better than he actually is

  • @Spazmonkey625
    @Spazmonkey625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are literally one of the only youtubers that makes me drop everything to watch a video as soon as I see it uploaded.

  • @jujubee3933
    @jujubee3933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    And here I was just binging Historia Civilis earlier.

    • @BCrane-ej4iq
      @BCrane-ej4iq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just arrived from King Charles's trial.

  • @Naingwinzaw
    @Naingwinzaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The best part has to be "When he did get around to sending his legions east, it was not in the way that Antony expected!"
    At 13.37

  • @River_StGrey
    @River_StGrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how obnoxiously romantic it is for Antony and Cleo to name their kids The Sun and The Moon while Antony killed his wife for her?

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude was a serious simp

    • @doorkey73
      @doorkey73 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...You and well...everyone else have different meanings of romantic.

  • @RJtheCoolGuy
    @RJtheCoolGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Not only does historia civilis make top tier content, but better yet, he is still making them

  • @plutarchvonpluto6439
    @plutarchvonpluto6439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Ventidius just became my favourite character!

  • @johnjohnsin3762
    @johnjohnsin3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    [scratches uneasily] Hey man, have any more of those Historia Civilis videos?

    • @boldCactuslad
      @boldCactuslad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha yeah man i'll uh send those historia legion to you right away... maybe...
      in like two months

    • @yougetonthathorseyougottar6126
      @yougetonthathorseyougottar6126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's sprinkle some crack on him and get out of here

  • @Mr.5N
    @Mr.5N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Can't wait for the next episode where my boy lepidus wins the civil war.

    • @thibautnarme6402
      @thibautnarme6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      :'D, a wall new meaning to Out of Africa rofl

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His fate was already revealed in the last episode. He lost his territory and just remained the Pontifex Maximus until he died of old age.

    • @antoninuslarpus7107
      @antoninuslarpus7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@infidelheretic923 You missed the joke

  • @jazhanay19
    @jazhanay19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Kinda shocking that Antony left his supply lines wide open and far apart.

  • @JestaKilla
    @JestaKilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "I'm not saying that Antony murdered his wife, but he did do that, and I am saying that, and he should be in jail."

  • @elsrdick
    @elsrdick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Question for @Historia Civilis or anyone who may answer:
    First of all, congratulations on this wonderful series.
    The way it is presented in this video, it seems as if Anthony and Cleopatra didn’t know each other -or at least they weren’t acquainted- up until the events of Tarsus. Back in college as part as a general studies History class, I wrote paper on Mark Anthony and Cleopatra. As part of my research, it is my understanding that Anthony and Cleopatra already knew each other since Caesar was alive. Moreover, since Cleopatra was in Rome during the Ides of March, it was Anthony who arranged for her to leave the city with Caesarion in the ensuing chaos of Caesar’s death -this also was not mentioned in the video covering Caesar’s funeral-.
    I understand that this videos present a simplified version of all historical events, but it seems this is something that was worth enough bringing up at least, unless my aforementioned research was wrong.
    Could you please clarify?

  • @Πολιτεία-λ6σ
    @Πολιτεία-λ6σ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regarding Media Atropatene, it is not actually the only kingdom like this within the Parthian state. There were quite a few like this since Parthia was essentially a feudal state.

  • @LocalHeretic-ck1kd
    @LocalHeretic-ck1kd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Cleopatra had a plan how to seduce Anthony:
    She asked him out on a date but she let him claim that it was he who asked her out on a date!
    And it worked.

    • @Actiaeon
      @Actiaeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true

    • @Kanner111
      @Kanner111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Cleopatra having to date Antony after dating Caesar is a real lesson in managing your expectations as an older single person.

    • @thibautnarme6402
      @thibautnarme6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Kanner111 Sounds more like a tale of 'love is overrated, political clout all day!' :'D

    • @SerunaXI
      @SerunaXI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Kanner111 Not even the Library of Alexandria burned this badly.

    • @jackj9816
      @jackj9816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Kanner111 I think her relationship with Caesar was more political like he probably cared about her but it seemed like he still loved his wife and sense cleopatra was not a Roman citizen he was not technically doing anything wrong. Her relationship with Anthony seems like it become more of a real relationship probably cause they were closer in age

  • @rogerpark3684
    @rogerpark3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One day we will get the actium video. One day...

  • @lordspongebobofhousesquare1616
    @lordspongebobofhousesquare1616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just failed my midterm today, thank you for the entertainment

  • @capnstewy55
    @capnstewy55 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ventidius is the most baller guy I've never heard of.

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A new Historia Civilis video is a true treat to be cherished and enjoyed.

  • @flynnparish9833
    @flynnparish9833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ohhhh Saturday morning breakfast and this. Perfect timing.

  • @jojomoman
    @jojomoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos more than I can really state in words. Such a digestible way of telling history, without treating me like a child and dumbing everything down. Big massive thank you!

  • @koragola
    @koragola 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there a follow up video to this? I’ve been watching your entire Roman History playlist and I can’t get enough.

  • @TheTyyros
    @TheTyyros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh finally, I've been on the edge of my seat for so long my legs are dangerously asleep from the lack of circulation

    • @kleinenfuchse5365
      @kleinenfuchse5365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like a practical theory of 70y old Archimedes trying to grab some 18y old pU$$Y with his ancient maths talks and wondering why it didnt work After. Like a total twrR0thead there :(

  • @ΓάκηςΓεώργιος
    @ΓάκηςΓεώργιος 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Crassus: I have the biggest failed invasion of Parthia
    Antony: Hold my toga

  • @bcvetkov8534
    @bcvetkov8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This series is great at explaining the tiny stuff that people leave out of the history books for some reason.

  • @TeutonicKnight92
    @TeutonicKnight92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I highly doubt Antony killed Fulvia to sleep with Cleopatra or marry Octavia. If she did die unnaturally it’s likely that it was at Octavian’s orders, possibly with Antony’s consent as they did blame their quarrels on her.
    It wasn’t unusual at all for a Roman aristocrat to divorce his wife to secure a better political alliance

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fair point.
      There was no need for Antony to murder Fulvia when divorce was so easy.
      Antony is innocent!
      Probably.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am confused too why this channel is so certain he murdered her, when Octavian for example so casually divorced his wife moved in with Livia when she was pregnant with other man’s son and he was just fine with the divorce. Fulvia was very important woman for sure, but not I divorcable.
      Also if the murder happened it was to Antonius to marry Octavia (their two children also weren’t mentioned in this video).

  • @devindworkin9053
    @devindworkin9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Psyched for a new video drop, came right over

  • @luuktwigt1139
    @luuktwigt1139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dovahatty and historia civilis both uploaded, what a week.

  • @tulsatrash
    @tulsatrash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I learned a lot of new things in this episode!
    I'd never heard the donations of Alexandria framed as a strategy to stabilize the roman empire before.
    I also didn't know most of the things that were covered about parthea's invasion of re and Anthony's invasion of Parthia.
    Also the whole presentation Cleopatra put together when she went to meet Antony. By the end my mind had assumed that was in a second new historia civilis video I must have watched just before this one.
    I appreciate that you took the time to explain how the Roman East was still new at this time and was held together by a complicated system that involved depending on allies who could always decide to not be helpful and how that would lead to problems.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Herod was extremely competent and loyal. I don't think he gets enough credit in the video for his role in driving The Parthians out of The Levant.

  • @duncanthetall6419
    @duncanthetall6419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Paitiently waiting for the next one*

    • @ianvucetich4976
      @ianvucetich4976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link please..

    • @csm5040
      @csm5040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianvucetich4976 Link for what? Lol

  • @OnacProudmoore
    @OnacProudmoore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've read multiple historians on the topic and you are the FIRST who says that Fulvia was murdered by Antony.
    I know about noone else who even suggested this idea.
    Just saying... :D

  • @zoetje9817
    @zoetje9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Antony should’ve checked with Tribune Aquila first, before he tried to reorganise anything.

  • @paolofumarola2319
    @paolofumarola2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what a simple way to make one's day.

  • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
    @ArthaxtaDaVince777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anthony and Cleopatra were stubborn teens who had wild delusions and impossible dreams. They met a fitting end after the Battle of Alexandria, both committed suicide.

  • @santiagoberto7178
    @santiagoberto7178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would you do a video about what happened after these events? The next available jumsps to 9 C.E.
    Im loving the channel man. Getting adicted.
    Ventidius totally a Chad lol

    • @johnpatrickcosta52
      @johnpatrickcosta52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he actually did make a video on Teutoberg forest WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY back

  • @moussanoir2807
    @moussanoir2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way this guys tells historical events is truly immersive and yet intriguing by the animated and over-schematic scenaris. Your way of telling stories from the past has a sense of psychedelic experience. I suggest everyone watch the Assassination of Caesar to figure out what I mean. I'm kept in a state of mesmerized fascination when I watch your videos

  • @lamelame1779
    @lamelame1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am hooked on this series. Was hoping these were all very old and I could binge watch this history but now I am all caught up and the story continues. I guess I can wait!!!!!!!

  • @ThrillaWhale
    @ThrillaWhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Right, cleo and anthony spent those 4 days “negotiating” 😏

  • @WoefulPie
    @WoefulPie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They were "aggressive negotiations" alright. Even strenuous, some might say.

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But in the end they were at least able to come to an agreement

  • @veljkoangelovski5349
    @veljkoangelovski5349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "attack the boat king!!"
    -octavian

  • @bpouelas
    @bpouelas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Wow, what another great episode! Can’t wait to- oh there’s more after the credits? Wait, Anthony is pregnant??”

  • @Vipers_Pit
    @Vipers_Pit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My mom. Why ar you crying?
    Me: because the purple square is bulling the red square

  • @lijunasuguerra6424
    @lijunasuguerra6424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ventidius is the "Just wing it" saying in a human form. We don't even know what the dude is thinking is why did I only heard about him right now?

  • @deutschamerikaner
    @deutschamerikaner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “... hangin’ out with his girlfriend in another country with his phone turned off.” Lol Antony needs to care more about the bros!

  • @borgiesanders
    @borgiesanders 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude i have no idea how this guys videos are always so good,,,, this shit is crazy. i hope he never stops this format is like crack

  • @takeeto9894
    @takeeto9894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    babe wake up, new Roman Republic in order dropped

  • @joshtherocky
    @joshtherocky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I love you man, your history videos make me happy.

  • @veljkoangelovski5349
    @veljkoangelovski5349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh boy now after this video will be the empre era videos this wil be fuuuuuun

  • @canag0d
    @canag0d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven’t seen envelopes this lethal since George’s wedding invitations from Seinfeld.

  • @TrialByDance
    @TrialByDance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is it boys, we're getting closer and closer to Emperor Augustus...

    • @nzcamel3
      @nzcamel3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😢

  • @RatafakTehPlachta
    @RatafakTehPlachta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    these are getting ridiculously good, its like watching a movie, keep up the great work! by far my fav channel

  • @Supernoxus
    @Supernoxus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why would you trust Octavian? He keeps stabbing people in the back.

  • @josh_richards
    @josh_richards 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your videos so much, it sucks that they come out every like 3 months but I think that just makes them better. Everytime one of your videos comes out, I go and watch some of your older videos too because they are also unbelievably good and then for the next 3 months I check your page every week or so to see if you uploaded a new video.

  • @RaynmanPlays
    @RaynmanPlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have nothing to say, but comments are good for the TH-cam algorithm, and this channel is amazing.

  • @danielbonin1530
    @danielbonin1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So after thinking, I don’t think Octavian extremely over exaggerated Anthony giving away Rome’s providences away. Did he use it for his political advantage, yes. Did he make it seem worse sure. But Anthony did give providences away as well as name another country ruler of the eastern Mediterranean. For a political move, it was a dumb choice by Anthony.

  • @worryjspverybadatd2125
    @worryjspverybadatd2125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I was worried when your uploads stopped for so long. I’m glad you’re okay.
    Thank you for the content :)

  • @Yuuki_12
    @Yuuki_12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still waiting on a follow up video. Great work, I've rewatched this series multiple times now. You're a great story teller 🟥

  • @samijawhar9594
    @samijawhar9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark Antony and Octavian are the worst things that could have happened to rome and I am frustrated they had that that much power when they were this shitty

  • @CoffeeSuccubus
    @CoffeeSuccubus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm convinced that Antony didn't murder his wife.