Toyota Tacoma Fox 2.5 DSC Ext Resi - How to Adjust your DSC Suspension & Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I go over what Fox means by their DSC Suspension meaning Dual Speed Compression. I got into detail about what the two adjustments mean and how to adjust each knob. This suspension allows you to customize your ride quality to your preferences.
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Here is a price break down: Total Chaos Upper Control Arm (96504) - $799.99
Fox Factory Series Shocks Front (880-06-418) - $1,959.95
Fox Factory Series Shocks Rear (883-26-007) - $1,249.95
OME Suspension System (EL095R) - $105.00
OME Suspension Systems Leaf Pack (EL095R) - $435.10 - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
From your video, high speed is for faster driving adj and low speed is for big g outs, this is contrary to what i know about adjusting suspension for dirt bikes. Im no expert, but always been taught that high speed compression is for big impacts like g outs or landing a big jump when the shaft of the shock travels fast. Low speed adjustment is for acceleration/braking in and out of corners etc when the shaft of the shock is traveling slowly.
You are correct except that a g-out would be considered a slow shaft speed event.
High speed adjustment doesn't mean vehicle speed. It refers to the speed of the shock shaft. Think of sharp bumps or pot holes causing the shock to move quickly. Low speed adjustment refers to slower shock shaft travel such as whoops or dips.
Thank you for covering this DSC video!! Helps a lot!! Continue with these great videos!
Hello Mignate.
Not a problem. There will be more videos to come but the suspension has been sold due to upgrading to King's.
@@pentzwerks What made you change?🤔
Hello@@mmunoz5875
I decided to go with Kings because I think they ride nicer than the Fox 2.5. My buddy has Kings with the adjusters on them and it rides a little smoother than the Fox. They both perform the same as far as technology because they are progressive and not degressive like Icons. You can not go wrong with Kings or Fox.
@@pentzwerks Good to know, thanks!
Hello @@mmunoz5875
You are very welcome. I'll let you know when I have a review on the king shocks.
Great video. I went with the same setup after watching your videos. Thanks
Hello Kevin Thouchalanh.
Congrats, you'll have one of the nicest set up for your Tacoma. Be prepared to have everyone stop you at the gas station to talk about your truck. Good luck with your build, let me know what you think about the suspension once it's installed.
I will indeed I'm happy I went with the same set up. Are you at JBLM?
Hello Kevin Thouchalanh.
I’m located in Seattle right now, 1.5 hour north of the base.
Love the Seattle area!!!!!!
I have the same setup for my 2010 tacoma. I didn't like the amount of preload required to level my front and back so I backed the preload to stock and plugged in my leveling blocks. Rather than attaching to the shock, I got longer bolts and ran them through the puck and into the shock. It put my front end at the exact height I wanted and lets me run a light preload on the spring so I never worry about binding. I think these aftermarket shocks should be about 1.5" longer personally. Now I have great articulation and ride. Removed away and I think it drives and works better.
Watched your vid for an idea on the clickers. Good explanation and starting points. Thanks.
Hello NGH.
Thanks for commenting, I'm glad my video was able to help you start to understand the adjustments of the DSC suspension. Another option would be to get longer springs, 14" and not 12" from the factory or upgrade to heavy springs. I decided the 1/4 inch spacer would do the job and it was able to level out the truck. Thanks for commenting and best of luck with your supension.
@@pentzwerks How do you have your front suspension set for daily? Also, do you change it when going off-road?
@@AntiPattern328
The knobs (blue and gold) allow you to adjust the suspension. Once adjusted you'll see drastic differences. I like to have my knobs in the middle during daily driving and more absorbent when off road so I'll increase the low speed and high speed.
Awesome video. You explained what each knob does, but which direction makes suspension soft/stiff
Hello Joshua Behzad.
Blue Knob (High speed) - Softer (+) / Stiffer Ride (-)
Put the blue knob in the middle (12 adjustments) - 6 left or ride and adjust from there.
Gold Knob (Low speed) - Ability for the tire to move up and down slowly when going over terrain
My set up currently (Blue Knob +9 and Gold Knob 1/4 inches out)
Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@pentzwerks for me the blue knob is the low speed. is that what you mean?
Hello @@jamessisk1267
Fox DSC Really Is Dual Speed Compression Adjustment. The Fox Low Speed Compression Adjustment give you the ability to find the optimal trade off between ride, handling and bottoming control. The Fox Low Speed Compression Adjuster has a large usable range and give each click an appropriate amount of adjustment.
Read this article: accutuneoffroad.com/articles/how-fox-dsc-dual-speed-compression-adjusters-work/
Just had the 2.5s installed in my Tundra. My fast adjuster has 12 clicks just like yours but my slow does have 10 clicks....it’s about every half turn and it is more subtle than the fast knob. Just an FYI.
I just installed mine and they’re like his, clicks on the high speed, no clicks on the slow.
Nice vid and thank u sir I find it interesting there isn’t a lot of videos or online consumer info on fox adjustable shocks it seems like a good feature and researching several brands to upgrade to. How has these shocks been so far on the trail and on road ? did you find your adjustability easy to tune for u or did it take a long time ? And did u consider other brands ? and why did fox get go ahead why not Kings? Hey thanks again and looking fer that vid on the trail next
Hello Juan Herrera.
These coil overs and shocks are extremely easy to adjust. All you need to do is turn the two knobs to get the perfect ride quality. The only problem I ran into was adjusting the preload (you need a coil over compressor to do this, most shops have one but some do not). Do all the adjustments to the preload before installing the shocks or have whoever you order them through do it. Accutuning does a lot of custom stuff as far as tuning and preload. I went with Fox because they've been around for a very long time and they'll continue to be around. I do not trust the small shock companies but they do offer a good product. Kings are great, I know a few people that use them. I went with Fox for the reputation, reliability and the parts available to rebuild the shocks if need be. Plus I'm not a fan of the flashiness of Kings. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello! Thank you for the video, it was great. But I have two questions. First question: How do you adjust the height of the rear shocks? I have the same shocks and they should give a 0-1.5 lift. And second question: there is a black knob on the back of the reservoir that you can turn, what is that for?
Hello Martin Arteaga.
Question 1: There is not rear shock adjustment
Question 2: The black knob in the back is for rebuilding the shock; do not touch it. If you release the nitrogen out of the shock you'll have to get them rebuilt.
I've never about High and Low speed shock adjustments. It's always been compression and rebound valving.
Hello RudeDogMakingTracks.
Yes traditionally it is called rebound valving and compression, I decided to address them by which Fox calls them which is high speed and low speed. Thank you for commenting.
@@pentzwerks So, what is the correlation between high, low speed and compression, rebound? I thought these were completely different.
Hello @@AntiPattern328.
DSC is dual speed compression. The low speed and high speed knob refer to the amount of movement the wheel / truck is going to encounter. If you traveling really fast on a bumpy road you'd want to turn the number to the (+) so you won't feel those bumps as they are related to high speed movement. If you're off roading and your tire is high centered, and you want to control the wheel from coming down fast you'd decrease the low speed movement. The only real why to understand is too experiment with the system. I hope this answer points you in the right direction.
@@AntiPattern328 There are no rebound settings on these shocks, that is set from Fox on all their shocks. These shocks only allow low speed compression (minimal shock oscillation) and high speed compression (large hits that max out the shock travel)
How do these shocks work in the back with the leafs that you have??? Looking at the same thing
Hello Ethan Stein.
Do not replace your leaf pack unless you have a camper shell, roof top tent, rear bumper or plan on loading your truck down with weight. The rear shocks will make the ride smooth, but if you upgrade the leaf packs and do not weight down the rear the ride will be stiff. Not so stiff that it's uncomfortable but something to think about. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks for the video! Question what are those 4 round rubber that comes with the front suspension?
Hello Jong A.
Yes, when I upgraded my suspension I order DSC all around. All coil overs and shocks have the adjustable knobs.
I have the same set up on my 2017 tacoma. I know that from factory only comes with a 2 inch lift.
My queastion is do you know measurments from top of coil and adjsuter nut distance to get 3 inch lift. ?
Hello Miguel Salas
Measure 1.75 inches of the tread showing to get 2.75 inches of lift. If you want three inches I would suggest adjusting it o 2” of thread showing. This is with using 600 lbs springs. Let me know if you have any other questions.
High and low compression is the most appropriate number for the street?
Cool dude cool vid :)
Hello Javier Rodriguez Rodriguez Rodriguez
Thank you for commenting. I hope the video was helpful.
Just installed those fox 2.5 dsc and the blue knob is wont even move, do you have any idea to fix them? Thanks
Are you running any wheel spacers to help with clearance of the tires from the shocks?
Hello Karthik Kailash
No spacer need to help clearance of the tires from the shocks. I added a .25 inch spacer above the driver side shock to help with Tacoma lean.
Video of you running this suspension soon?
Hello Michael.
Yes, I'll definitely document how the suspension does off road and on road. Is there any in particular you'd like to see in the video?
Stryker of Seattle just the view from inside and outside the truck if possible when driving. It’s hard to get a feel for the ride quality when only seeing the “behind the dash” view.
Hello Michael.
I'll go ahead and start working on that video. All I can say is that it rides as good as my Porsche Panamera, Porsche uses an air suspension and Fox uses the oil/nitrogen that gives the same affect. I'll keep you posted on when the video will be posted.
Stryker of Seattle good to hear. Looking forward to your video.
Any updates?
How much inch of thread you have it set on driver side coil over vs passenger side I have mines set at 2” 1/4 driver side and 2” passenger side due to the taco lean driver aide is heavier I know it’s safer to adjust recommended factory suggested but I have a 2 inch block on the rear for now until I get my leaf spring. Currently running a nine dsc right now on a 2019
4x4 offroad I do notice a little stiff on the ride but really smooth when driving fast!
And how much of a lift did that get you.
My blue adjuster back out so much that the ball bearings fell out. Should there be a something that stps it from backing out that for?
Hello Spencer Cupit.
I never had that issue when I installed the shocks. I would think that there's a limiter to the adjustment knob. I'd contact whoever installed or you purchased from.
What is the highest and least psi in the fox 2.5 shocks? Nitrogen I mean
Hello NasserPro
I do not know the answer to that question as I’ve never had my suspension rebuilt. I would recommend calling or email Fox support.
Is the 1.75" measurement for the threads the same for my Tundra? I had some guys install my lift and suspension and there is like 4" of threads and my ride seems rough no matter how I adjust my DSC.
Ya pull that collar up to about 1 3/4 with a measuring tape . Meaning 1 3/4 “ from the top that should help with the ride. Your maxed out on the lift ..
@@jordansmith7361 Thanks man!
I need help. I have these fox in the front. Want to help me out?
Hi!
How many laps does the coil over lift up and how many inches?
Hello Om Bass.
I have 1.75 inches of tread showing from the top of the treads to the top of the coiler. Do not count the treads.
What leafs you running? Also, are those recommended settings below what you run in the front & back?
Hello Gary.
Leaf Packs: OME ARB
OME Suspension System (EL095R) - $105.00
OME Suspension Systems Leaf Pack (EL095R) - $420.00
Current Set Up: Preload 1.75 inches of thread showing, Blue Knob (high speed) is +8 and Gold Knob (.25 inch out). Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hey man. Back again. I’m about to pull the trigger on these. Found a solid deal. Would you recommend them still? Looking for recommendations for street driving for the setting.
Recently I've installed the same set up and I'm still struggling with the adjustment, so where do you leave your knobs position at it for city driving?
Also, if I have 2" of treads showing on the coilover how much lift is that? Thank you for the great videos.
Hello D.W.B
I do not have 3 inches of lift like I had with my level kit, which was nice because I did not rub. Right now I only rub on steep hills and turning the wheel fully to the left/right. I think I'll be doing a cab mount chop in the near future so that I do not rub. With 1.75 inches of thread showing, I'm thinking that I have about 2" of lift of 2.25". In the near future, I'll set them to 2 inches of threads showing so that I get more lift. I used a .25 spacer above the drive side coilover as well to balance out for tacoma lean.
Current Set Up:
Blue Knob: 7 Clicks Clock Wise (absorbs pot holes and imperfections in the road), not too bouncy
Gold Knob: Two full turns towards clock wise
Set your suspension to those specs and let me know what you think. I'm happy with the way it rides, but it could be softer so I might give it another click towards high speed (+8). Let me know if you have any questions.
@@pentzwerks ; ) you didn't answer anything.
Let me know. Take care.
Hello DWB
I realized I cut out the clip after "let me know if I didn't answer some of your questions." My mistake, I'll definitely make sure I rewatch my video before posting it. If you have 2" inch of treads showing then you should have about 2.75 inches of lift with 600 lbs coils. This will depend on whether or not you have a front bumper or winch set up.
Current Suspension Settings: 2 inches of thread showing with a .25 inch spacer above the driver side coil over. The spacer fitted the rubbing issue, and I also got a cab mount chop and trimmed the plastic of the fender back. DSC settings +9 on Blue Knob and .25 out on the Gold Knob.
Wich you recomend for daily ride on regular pavement?
Hello Cristian Andres Willemsen Mladinic
It will perform perfectly on pavement. It's good off road and on road as it's highly adjustable.
So which setting softens it up? Rotating towards the plus?
Clockwise for softer rebounds, meaning better ride quality. Plus goes to clockwise. I would recommend trying different settings to see what you like.
Wich way do you turn high speed adjuster to get a softer rid ? Clockwise or Counter Clockwise? And same for low speed ? Clockwise or Counter Clockwise?
Hello James.
If you turn to the (-) counter clockwise you will have less absorption therefore harsher ride. If you turn the clicker to the (+) clockwise, you'll have more movement therefore a softer ride. Does that make sense?
High speed adjustment only affects high speed action, aka big hits like whoops and step outs where the shock will oscillate into its end range of travel. The low speed adjustment is for street-like driving, easy trails. Turning the knob to the left (counter clockwise) makes the response on both speed settings softer. Softest low speed setting would mean the most body roll on the streets or highways, firmest setting would reduce body roll. The low speed setting also affects how the shock responds on washboard.
So which is it fellas? I'm confused AF
@@fatwill071 high speed compression controls big hits and severe wheel droop action. Low speed compression controls body roll, nose dive, beginning-range (from flat ride height) action
@@ShockSurplus So turning the knob to the + direction increases dampening of both? Will turning the high speed blue knob to the + direction make a rougher ride on big hits, or soften the blow because you've increased dampening? Will turning the yellow low speed adjuster to the + direction make more dampening, and thus less body roll?
Why is the high speed (blue dial) so hard to adjust (spin). Is it the same on your truck? Wondering if you needed a tool or something? Thanks, John
Goodmorning John Peterson.
The blue and gold knob should not be hard to move. Do not use a tool on the adjustment knobs. Remember, it's has limits on both sides. So you can go all the way to the left or go all the way to the right. There are 10 adjustment points.
I’m having the same issue it’s very difficult to turn the high speed knob, its almost like it gets stuck, I had to use a flat tip with a cloth so I wouldn’t scratch to get some turns, after half a turn or two it get easier. I felt like it gets tougher to turn once your close to either side of the full turn.
What would you set for towing?
Hello Tyler Pasons.
I would turn the high speed knob to the + side and the low speed to the middle. This way the shocks will absorb the high speed movement of the trailer but not give you the "bouncy" feeling when driving down the road.
What is your model # on the 2.5s in the back?
Hello J.W. Lee.
Total Chaos Upper Control Arm (96504) - $799.99
Fox Factory Series Shocks Front (880-06-418) - $1,959.95
Fox Factory Series Shocks Rear (883-26-007) - $1,249.95
OME Suspension System (EL095R) - $105.00
OME Suspension Systems Leaf Pack (EL095R) - $435.10
Make sure you order the Tacoma model and not the Tundra. I ordered the Tundra due to the fact that was the only set in store and had to modify them. If you order the Tacoma model, you'll be fine.
Can you feel the click on the gold knob?
Hello JoHnYHaLo.
No you do not, look at the difference of spacing between the blue and the bottom of the gold knob.
Hello there, whats the purpose of adding the, "DAKAR LEAF SPRING SET FOR 2005+ TACOMA and OME Suspension System Part Number EL095R-PartsKit)?" Can I just do the front and rear fox socks w the upper arm? What would happened in both scenarios?
Hello Josue.
I upgraded my leaf pack so that I could put heavier loads in the back of my truck. In the future, I'll be putting a canopy on and carrying a load along with that so roughly 450lbs. I didn't want the rear of my truck to sag under the weight. You do not have to upgrade the rear leaf pack, and if you decide to you can always do it at a later date. Let me know if you have any other questions. I would just order the UCA, Coilover and Shock if you do not plan on having heavy objects in the bed of your truck.
Pros of Leaf Pack:
1. Can load your truck down without it sagging in the rear
2. Ride stability
3. Lifting the rear 1.5 inch higher than it would normally ride
Con of Leaf Pack:
1. Stiffer ride quality
2. More expensive
Wow, thanks you so much for that information! Much appreciated, one final question regarding the upper arm, why did you pick that one in particular? Asking because I found another upper arm camburg.com/shop/suspension/camburg-toyota-tacoma-pre4wd-05-17-kinetik-series-billet-upper-arms/ its more expensive but am trying to figure out why its so expensive. Your help is appreciated.
Hello Josue.
No problem, I've done so much research on these expensive high performance suspension that I'm just trying to share my knowledge and keep everyone informed. I do not like the "click-bait" everyone uses on youtube, so I'm just simple giving information to people. I picked Total Chaos because they've been around a long time, and they will continue to be around. If you need to replace the uni-ball they will have it in stock, that's not to say Camburg won't though.
Reasons why I choose Total Chaos & Fox Race Shocks
1. Reputation - these brands are on so many race trucks and personal vehicles. Fox as a company supplies all mountain bikes, ATV, cars and race trucks. Total Chaos like King suspension is on a lot of dessert race trucks.
2. Replacement Parts - a lot of these aftermarket custom fabrication shops will offer a product without replace or spare parts. This is not true with Fox and Total Chaos, they have all the replacement parts on their website.
3. Total Chaos UCA - these have a uni ball that helps keep the spindle in place and have it have free motion. As long as you maintain them, which I'll be making a video on that they will last.
4. Quality - Check out my other video for an up close view
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5. Customer Service: I talked to a head guy at TC and they're really down to earth guys that will get you what you need. Fox is the same way, but it's a longer wait to get someone on the phone.
6. Aesthetics - They simple look dam good on the truck, I get compliments everywhere I go. My shocks are as large as the Ford Raptor shocks, they're always look at my suspension set up when they drive past me on the free way.
Let me know if you have any other questions, Camburg is gaining popularity on TacomaWorld. But the main thing is quality, both are high quality and that's why they're so expensive.
Thanks again for the help and prompt replies they helped a lot, step 1 for me will be the socks and the upper arm :)
Hello Josue.
Sounds like a plan.
Option 1: Buy New UCA and Front Shocks, and do an add-a-leaf in the rear to level the height of the truck so the front and back are the same height.
Option 2: Buy New UCA, Front shocks and Rear Shocks. This is the best option for ride quality without buying the heavy duty leaf springs that you do not need if you don't have a load in your truck all the time.
I have the same set up and I have everything "opened" up it rides like a lumber wagon! i hate it. when i close everything up it rides worse. any suggestions?
Hello hambne950.
Hows the ride quality now? I would suggest letting it "break in" and drive 1000 miles on it before adjusting anything. You're preload "height of the springs" might be compressed too much. Do you have armor and heavy add ons installed on the truck?
@@pentzwerks the front is fine now i had too much preload. but i dont have any heavy stuff in the rear but that rides like shit.
Hello @@hambone950
Make sure all the shocks and coil overs are adjusted to the same setting. Again, I'll let it settle in. If I were to order custom shocks again, I'd have them "tuned" before I got them. You might want to drive with a load in the back of the truck to help them settle down in the rear. Did you upgrade the leaf pack as well?
@@pentzwerks yeah i bought them thru accutunes, they are all opened. and yes i bought the leaf spring pack as well
Hello @@hambone950
Did you replace the whole leaf pack or just do an "add-a-leaf?" If you replaced the whole leaf pack with "overland" or heavy duty leaf pack it will ride rougher until you add weight in the bed of the truck. If it's just an add a leaf; it shouldn't cause a significant amount of ride quality in the rear.
So you can have a hard taco or a soft taco
Hello ROCKETRY XZACH
Soft taco, hard taco and medium taco. This suspension is highly adjustable.
@@pentzwerks Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the dampened hard taco. Not too soft and not hard... just right. You don't want it to crunch. LOL. Nice video bro. And thanks for responding!
Is this the standard length or extended travel coilovers?
Nvm I just read the above details!
Hello Ryan Walker.
These coil overs and shocks are the extended travel; better known as the mid travel. I highly recommend it if you off road but if you want a better ride go with the factory length.
I already purchased the the extended travel lol. Cannot wait. Im waiting to get the rear leaf pack and then its install time!
Hello @@ryanwalker8526
Did you got with an ARB leaf pack or add-a-leaf?
@@pentzwerks yeah im going with the medium duty leaf pack with the AAL to give that extra little lift. I only have a RTT with no plans of a bumper or anything so i think that should be good.
what size tire?
Hello Machiavelli_ G.
285/75/16
Here is a video going over my whole suspension set up.
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Large knob continually turns no stop
Or if you have your girlfriend in the car had me laughing