Keto Diets: Muscle Growth & Bone Density
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- Ketogenic diets found to undermine exercise efforts and lead to muscle shrinkage and bone loss.
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Correction:
2:48 - The graph is incorrectly titled as Mean Changes in Serum apoA-1. It should be Mean Changes in Triglyceride Concentrations.
The video I mentioned is The Weight Loss Program that Got Better with Time.
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• Is Weight Loss on Ketosis Sustainable? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-We...)
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Correction: The graph at minute 2:48 is incorrectly titled as Mean Changes in Serum apoA-1. It should be Mean Changes in Triglyceride Concentrations. -NF Team
I think I'm going to change the notification sound on my phone to Dr. Greger's "Unnnnnntil....NOW"
Yes! 😍
😂
On the 3 study you showed:
Body weight had an statistical significant increase only in the non ketogenic (20/25/55) diet group of ~1kg
Fat mass had an statistically significant decrease only in the ketogenic (20/10/70) diet group of ~1kg
Lean body mass only had an statistically significant increase in the ketogenic diet group of ~1.5 kg
You showed the study title and a few slides and only mentioned the negative results from ketosis not the positives
How bad it has to be for this guy to not find more BS on keto that he has to show supporting evidence and just talk as if it was bad! lol
This guy it's a comedian, but then again he speaks to bunch of religious nuts and brain disabled people here.
At 1:08 this study is cited: Efficacy of ketogenic diet on body composition during resistance training in trained men: a randomized controlled trial
Results:
There was a significant reduction in fat mass and visceral adipose tissue, while no significant changes were observed in the NKD and CG in fat mass or visceral adipose tissue.
No significant increases were observed in total body weight and muscle mass in the KD group, but the NKD group showed increases in these parameters.
There were no changes neither in total body weight nor lean body mass in the CG.
Conclusion:
Our results suggest that a KD might be an alternative dietary approach to decrease fat mass and visceral adipose tissue without decreasing lean body mass; however, it might not be useful to increase muscle mass during positive energy balance in men undergoing RT for 8 weeks.
If you just pick out the negative statements and completely disregard the positive you can make anything sound bad.
@@sam11443 Exactly, for me there was a lot of cherry picking in this video.
When I started a plant based diet...I follwed this doctor. He cherry-picks all his studies
@@selfinflictedjoy who do you follow now? Just wondering because I sometimes have doubts too
1:30 in and it's already dropping bombs on keto
80 Slim Shady's with the amount of videos on Keto he’s been putting out it’s more like an orbital strike 😎
@@sid35gb 😎
@@sid35gb 🤣🤣🤣🤣 right?
i choose veganism over meth for weightloss
but the decision wasnt easy
You're not even vegan, troll. You eat meat and puppies, admit it. 😃
Pam Popper says a good coke habit is good for weight loss too.
So we have a choice will you the Coke? or will you the Meth? Only you can decide 😂😂😂
@@sid35gb hey man I'm not one to discriminate, I'll vape the meth and inject the coke through my eye, this way it gives your nose a break.
It's the same thing.
@@dreamofmermaids thats the joke
On the plus side, a high-fat diet causes impotence.
Best joke I've read today - GJ!
I don't know if this counts for fats like nuts and avocado or nut butter in a whole foods plant based diet. I think it depends on the combination with other foods.
@@taraes.3609 I was referring to a "keto" diet, which typically consists of animal flesh and grease. Some nuts contain a lot of saturated fat, others are fine.
@@DinarAndFriends No it doesn't... I eat nuts, olives, olive oil, avocado, mct and fish for the majority of my dietary fats..
Based on what?
PLANT BASED GAINZZZ BABY! 🌱💪👊💥
Hench Herbivore owgawdam
I work in wellness and deal with these questions everyday Hench and I’m so glad they are doing these meta analysis so I can send them to people to help them understand....going to see Game Changers tonight!
🌱💪👍
Roïd déficit based diet baby baby
Keto diets causing muscle wasting and weak bones? Now where have I recently seen footage of a carnivore clown pinned to the bench by 5 lb dumbbells?
@@jackanddan nice and nice
My friends niece is 20. She had 40 seizures every day due to Arcardi syndrome. Within one month of cbd oil she was down to one per day.
There will be keto people decrying this comment. Cannabis is a plant, after all. I'm glad your friend's niece is feeling better!
That's awesome!
CBD is incredible for epilepsy keto has had similar effects for epilepsy as well
@biggie2335 yes, but minus the heart attacks😅
@@leninlau9583 u are misinformed
"lightening the load for your pallbearers" -- great close! :)
My thoughts exactly!
Great close to a great video.
Great close, because that is all he basically had.
Someone will, as usual, go through the studies and science he only highlights to show he is a charlatan.
Greger has an agenda to push, so will only highlight what agrees with said agenda. Of course will ignore anything outside of that scope.
This isn't science, this is bias.
Nutritional science is one of the best at this, and no, before everyone jumps on me, this isn't a vegan only thing.
@@takeoffyourblinkers While you are a pillar of scientific knowledge, you don't need a degree in Clinical Nutrition or a medical degree, your intellect surpasses that, you are just some unknown entity on TH-cam. And by the way all the studies are cited and you can read them in entirety which I have done at times and read the ones mainstream media gives for click bait so yes I am making my own decisions while you just try to confuse people and hum I wonder who you serve?
@@greensorrel6860
hmm, confuse people?
By asking them to question, and think for themselves?
Oh, and why you are floating around YT, why not read up on how propaganda is delivered.
Dr. Greger dropping some serious truth bombs on keto bros in this series. WFPB for the win! 🙏🏼🥦🍌
Arthritis to Athlete do you even science 🤣
When I went on the Atkins diet years ago I threw up blood and had to go off it. But when I went on Dr Ornish diet after I saw him on Ted talks, I lost 100 pounds, and my doctor said I no longer had a cholesterol or blood sugar problem. SO for me at least, plant based is the way to go. I had gotten off track for a bit and so went vegetarian for 2 months and then vegan for 1 month and my cholesterol went down 79 points. So I know plant based is best for me !
Cholesterol went down? That your marker of good health?
I’ve been doing Keto and carnivore for two years and I have lost a lot of weight and improved my strength and fitness by a huge amount. I am 43 years old and feeling like I’m 25 again, not just physically but mentally and emotionally feeling amazing. The Keto way of living has changed my life.
I imagine that you'd find your blood work reflects this well. You probably have low remnant cholesterol, low triglycerides and good hdl. ;D
I imagine that you're hastening your demise with keto.
@@allencrider i imagine you have no evidence this is happening. Rich.
@@stingrae789 just have a look at the course he ran on his so-called record breaking run, ignoramus!
Same here. Keto changed my life. This video is garbage.
Thanks very much for this series. Life saving info.
lol
Excellent work! Thanks for doing the research and posting!
September 16, 2019... The Game Changers Theatrical Release... + Dr. Greger drops this video... Coincidence?
I'm seeing it this week.
Vegan agenda confirmed!
Watched it tonight, was so good
I'm going to try to watch it soon, there's no venues around here where I live sadly.
Guys... Guys...
GUYS.......
What is that? A movie?
Yep, still doing WFPB when all my friends have quit KETO❤️✨🌿
1:14 that is one badass training program filled with good compound movements :D
Miha Skorjanc you should run it for a month or two and let us know how much gains you made :)!
"The goal of weight loss is not to lighten the load for your pallbearer." --Dr. Greger
Definitely adding that to my quote collection.
Funny how a kid dies on keto and you'll never hear a word of it. If a vegan child died it be all over the news and parents would be going to jail 🙄
Exactly! And even in all the supposed cases of starvation where they blame veganism, no child ever dies. Moreover, I bet that the parents of the keto kids who actually died never got charged with abuse or neglect at all. It's ridiculous.
I just had to defend the vegan diet because of someone saying it kills children raised this way. If you look into those cases the parents clearly were not taking good care of their children. The one dominant case the child had floppy bone syndrome or rickets because they weren't getting enough sunshine. The child was also low in b12 and they never took the child to the hospital for anything even immunisations. It's easy to be an unhealthy vegan unfortunately so it's probably easy to be an unhealthy vegan parent...
A kid's dying is never funny dude...
Sadly IGNORANT masse's!!! Oh how right you are!!! Poor sheeple. I've experienced similar things with my children over the years. I think sometimes wilful ignorance, (don't mess w my food) attitude. But I'll jab a stick in your eye about a healthy diet. Because our lifestyle can be somewhat guilt convicting...
@@goku445 I think they were saying it is funny how you never hear about unless it is vegan kids. I don't think anyone said anything about kids dying being funny.
I attended one of your meetings a number of years ago. I would simply like to take a moment to say, thank you for your contributions to healthy living. This by education and example! Thank you sir!!!
i'm curious if the probable loss of glycogen in the muscles could have any influence on the "lean body mass" loss
Dubious Synopsis. 1. the mentioned CRP rise was negligable 2. The more important Interleukin 6 value was lowered.
Since I train 6 times a week for a Triathlon, I cannot with certainty asure you about muscle gain. Also my Motivation might be higher as usual. I dont eat a lot of animal fat besides fish. In my experience a slightly adjusted Ketogenic diet, with small intakes of carbs during Cardio Sessions has had no adverse effects.
He is telling about keto diet, not pseudo keto diet, where you make adjustments with carb.
that ending lol. I use to think that keto was healthy if you did it Vegan style but now I am thinking its better for people to just stay away from it all together after this series. And unfortunately I think most people turn keto into an Atkins diet which is a very unhealthy diet.
Jake And Sarah Health Nuts yep
Go and see dr Berg's videos. He is smart, not arrogant, and plain healthy on a keto diet.
Piotr Kurczewski he’s a quack who speaks outside his field of expertise. He’s a chiropractor. He tells people that type 2 carcinogens are actually healthy. Seriously that guy is a complete quack
@@heandjehsshhe He doesnt look healthier than many asian doctors who are not scared of rice. I still follow him for his general info content, but not for any diet guideline (i Dont need any diet anyway).
@@heandjehsshhe lol
Im glad this video highlighted how keto diet is not good for muscle growth. It true. I lost strength and muscle mass when I went on a keto diet.
Not here to advocate for any diet, but I see that most of those studies have missed the "Modus Operandi" of Keto diet :
1º - You start gradually. Reducing Carbs and Adapting your body for what's to come (Low-Carb diet)
2º - Once you are getting adapted to low carbs, start eating more fat, but only to "Teach" your body how to keep up with that...also start reducing even more Carbs ( < 20 g / day ).
3º - After 1 or 2 weeks, you intruduce Intermitent Fasting (the twin brother of Keto Diet).
4º - At the same time, start gradually reducing Fat intakes, forcing your body to Burn internal Fat.
5º - Don't stay in Keto for too long ( 1 or 2 months is enough). Return to Low-Carb diet and stay for 1 month, at least, until you can afford another cycle of Keto.
Protein intakes also need to be moderated (25%). Vitamins and Minerals Supplementation is highly advisable.
The first cycle is harder...better keep it short.
To summarize : Low-Carbs for long term (all life)...Keto is better in cycles. Both need adaptation.
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"until you can afford another cycle of Keto."
What on earth does that mean?
"3º - After 1 or 2 weeks, you intruduce Intermitent Fasting (the twin brother of Keto Diet)."
Completely optional. Keto has a lot of the same benefits IF claims to have. Fasting every now and then for a day or two is probably a better option if autophagy is the goal.
"Protein intakes also need to be moderated (25%). Vitamins and Minerals Supplementation is highly advisable."
Protein isn't an issue there's no harm in exceeding protein despite the popular misconceptions. Eating real food (beef/fish/eggs) will alleviate any vitamin and mineral concerns. Supplements are a waste of money, most are poorly absorbed and only really work when there's an extreme deficiency by in large.
No carb long term, stop worrying about percentages of nutrients.
@@stingrae789 : Hard to undertand your point ! 😕
Protein intakes are not "popular misconceptions". Protein also triggers Insulin, everybody knows that.
About Supplements : if you read the statistics, most of global population are deficient in some Vitamins. If you go for Keto+IF , you are probably going to need a reinforcement on that.
Actually, the difficulties that people have doing Keto are not for lacking of MacroNutrients...but lacking of MicroNutrients.
Keto without IF is a waste of Effort. Fasting gives a huge Boost to Keto, assuring high level of Fat burning, High levels of Ketones, and High level of Autophagy.
My point was very clear : Unlike Keto zealots claim...Keto IS NOT A LONG RUN SOLUTION. Far better in cycles.
Low-Carb diet can be (if done properly).
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@@peplegal8253 I've arrived at the same conclusion a few months ago. Keto will be successful for immediate weight loss only if it's side by side with IF, low carb and massive intake of vegetables to offset heavy consumption of saturated fat. Keto actually is very good excuse to support the slaughter industry and justify taste sensation for animal products.
thanks for all these videos on Keto!
This would be such an amazing discussion to have on the JRE podcast! >.
He is too scared to bring on legit scientists or practitioners like Gregor, Ornish or Esselstyn. They don't support the narrative he is selling to the broscience listeners.
What are you people talking about? He has had guests on topic and he also has his own opinion. You vegans are absolutely mental, anyone not 100% tiptoeing your fucked up cult's inherently fuzzy talking points is an enemy and target to you. Nobody, not even Greger, Esselstyn or Ornish, wants to be associated with you schitzo shitheads, which is why they call their diet something else.
Joe Rogan can't afford to lose all credibility by brining complete wacos in his show.
1:41 I don't understand what you are trying to say about the red part (KD).
If no significant increase was found (p>0.05) for n=9, can you just state that KD does not increase weight/muscle mass in a significant way (p
There are two people I work with that went Keto. They have lost a substantial amount of weight, and good for them for doing so and trying to lose weight. But they look like pale sick zombies. I also did Keto 3 years ago for about 4 months. I was very mathematical about it making sure I did everything correctly and even used a ketone meter. I bought all the best organic grass fed meat you could buy and ate a ton of leafy greens and what little fruit you can on a keto diet. I developed some very serious digestive issues which till this day I couldn't figure out what it was after having some blood work, CT scan, and a colonoscopy done. My only guess is pancreatitis or a severe micro biome imbalance in my intestines. I then went Vegan almost 2 1/2 years ago and everything with my health improved.
I did similar, tried Keto and got severe digestive issues from it and constipation, sure, i probably wasn't doing it as ideal as you could but the truth is who should be viewing something as extreme as keto as a "normal" way of life, it's just not balanced nor is it healthy long term and the science is conclusive on this fact. I think that sadly, most keto heads are inder the influence by the constant and reprtitive personal accounts of short term weight loss and success, whilst losing insight of long term strategy for a balanced life and geniunally healthy way of eating. I guess that keto really is a survival tool now used as a weight loss tool as oppose to a healthy diet, a tool that is sadly perceived as a long term answer.
So what’s the alternative? Chips and cookies? You provided us with no solution..
Did you try to use purified bile salts?
I loved seeing *Heisenberg* at the end lmao
i love this new content about keto diet, which causes more harm. i hope i can explain this on my own dialect well to share to my subscribers
This is funny but its bullshit. I and everyone I know on keto carnivore are great, good shape and active... I don't know what this pencil neck doctor is quaking about.
@@Ramiromasters he is just trying to help people not to die. the ketos may look healthy but the risk is higher for heart problems. it is shown with scientific studies. it is still up to you to choose what is best for you.
@@ddd10 I may be picky here but his book title is "How not to die" what a load Greger making you immortal... Right.
Also, it blows my mind when people say "Oh you look great but you will have a heart attack one day because of keto" as they are fat or skinny fat and pre diabetic... How delusional, I'm not the product of plastic surgery so what you see on the outside it IS a reflection of the inside its call "signs of health" Great teeth, good muscle tone, smooth skin, I mean I'm not a horse but if you were to buy one this are common sense things to look for in a healthy animal. This people will have you believe they are scientist and that you don't know crap so you can't trust your common sense...
@@Ramiromasters it is up to you to believe or not. everyone will die eventually. you can have your own opinion and your own lifestyle. it is not about being immortal. just enjoy what you are doing and i will enjoy mine
@@Ramiromasters scientific papers, and not anecdotes from your own circle of friends. It’s called scientific evidence and the pencil neck doctor is sharing evidence-based nutrition.
Love this!!!
Low carb diets are gaining popularity because people feel much better when they aren't bloated, constipated, and suffering from excessive gas all the time. When you ditch the grains, beans, processed foods and calorie dense carbs and eat meat, vegetables, fruit, nuts and seeds instead you feel better.
Great work Dr Greger, bringing real science and knowledge to the people
🤣 real science? If you’re interested in real science, check Bart Kay pick this garbage apart
@@doctorscientist3991 You need to learn the scale of scientific rigor my friend, the most costly thing in the world is bad advice.
Ryan Ludwig If you actually understood how nutrition science draws inferences, you would understand that you do not need a high level of rigor to debunk this quack. It scares me how little it takes to convince people who are otherwise to lazy to actually find things out for themselves.
Doctor Scientist Yet you’ve provided no evidence to debunk him. Nice! 👍
@@doctorscientist3991 are you a dietitian?
This may be one of the best yet.
Important to distinguish between high protein and keto diets too.
The Keto Diet is great....for lining the pockets of Keto quacks, 'coaches', and TH-camrs.
@Dr Grey I haven't found a single one of his videos without glaring mistakes. Not one.
MegaVegan
Same could be said for the Vegan diet, and they have a lot more fingers in many more pies, stop being clueless, there's a reason why the "diet" industry online is worth billions.
Next time you see some vegan/vegetarian biased study from your normal V/V doctor, check out the conflicts of interest, the sponsors and the endorsements.
As the vegans love to say, check the money trail.
Maybe a wake up call for ya...
@Thomas Victorian You are too dim to be worth communicating with.
By the way - Gregor makes nothing from his videos. But don't let facts get in the way of your delusions.
@@DinarAndFriends Just out of curiosity, why do you watch any of his videos? These people live and thrive off any clicks, any comments, and any likes/dislikes. They love to trigger people with their trash because it drives more traffic their way. I get tired of having channels like his keep appearing in my feed because TH-cam thinks that someone that subscribes to Nutrition Facts will also want to see his rubbish.
@@StevenTPriest Sorry - I have a policy of not communicating with trolls. Goodbye and blocked.
Thanks Doc. 💪🏽
some one should suggest this videos to joe rogan :). i wish dr Greger would be invited on his podcast
Along with the church of scientology, you crazy person.
@@Ramiromasters isn't that crazy
I went keto for 4 months and lost muscle size and strength. It's one of the worst diets and biggest mistakes of my life. However I also lost size and strength on a vegan diet, but on the vegan diet I did feel good and energetic, just not in the gym.
SightLess Wisdom checkout this vegan bodybuilder:
th-cam.com/channels/pyhJZhJQWKDdJCR07jPY-Q.html
I and my husband had the opposite results to you. The less veggies consumed,
, the better our outcome. Off meds, way more energy, no fatty liver, weight loss but not muscle loss, more stamina when doing things and happier mood etc. Doctor was so happy (even tho keto is not high on their list of good things) that they phoned to say, your blood work is perfect....twice. Diabetic dietician said, you don't need anything any more. Thanks for your video... I guess you just have to find out what works for each person.
I think keto should only be used as a weight lose tool inconjuction with fasting.
... but the goal of weight loss is not to lighten the load of your pallbearers.
This is great stuff!
Also known as M1316V or p.Met1316Val, rs1061325 represents a common variant in the clathrin heavy chain like 1 CLTCL1 gene on chromosome 22. The (T) allele is associated with the Met (M) codon, and the (C) with Val (V), as represented on the forward/plus strand. A 2019 publication gathered a fair amount of attention in the popular press by speculating that the V1316 allele has a selective advantage in processing carbohydrate-rich diets (presumably including those with lots of sugar) of farmers compared to the M1316 allele found at somewhat higher frequencies in hunter-gatherers (who theoretically consume fewer carbs). The authors suggest that heterozygotes may have a selective advantage, with M1316 homozygotes presumably most prone to developing insulin resistance on modern diets. While we would not expect the major CLTCL1 polymorphism to directly influence the development of T2D, CHC22 accumulates on the expanded GSC that forms in cases of insulin-resistant T2D (Vassilopoulos et al., 2009), so its variation could potentially exacerbate insulin resistance to different degrees. The genetic diversity that we report here may reflect evolution towards reversing a human tendency to insulin resistance and have relevance to coping with increased carbohydrate in modern diets. ://elifesciences.org/articles/41517
Full text www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6548504/
I enjoyed that pallbearer burn at the end.
This mans just ended Keto’s career
We can only wish....
Baraa H. I think I found the frail keto dieter
they'll still use cognitive dissonance to believe in Keto, sadly. They're a lost cause
A look at this man should've ended his career day one
That Walter White 😉
Great vid Dr. Greger!
“The goal of weight loss is not to lighten the load for your pole bears” nicely put!
I love your humour and the truth, thanks!
Hah! So far from the truth it’s is funny! 😂
I developed osteoporosis and lost all my muscle tone from years of whole food plant based vegan diet.
I am now healing on ketogenic diet. Getting stronger every day. Also my brain performance is so much better now.
Basically I am reclaiming my health that deteriorated from veganism!
Am pro-keto and pro-Vegan...I just feel sad for all the vegans on here being misled by Greger about keto.
Kayondo Thomas I agree. There are so many lies being told in the health community. 😢
Best of luck to you on the tumor diet.
TheWodeh what a lovely thing to say
AIIiecat I'm a vegan lifter and I'm making gains; no problem. I suspect you didn't track your macros and was under-eating.
This is definitely confusing I would like to see a debate between dr. Berg and Michael Greger about the ketogenic diet they both argue their points very well but on opposite side of the spectrum. they are definitely contradicting one another medical benefits and or Consequences the ketogenic diet
I think its pretty clear that if you do a keto diet long term, than you are just taking a risk with unproven science.
Keto has about a 50/50 positive against negative study success in short term studies, and using keto long term could be outright dangerous and a doctor with lots of convincing theories is still just a guy theorising with no studies to back him up.
The keto diet is probably at least 10 years away from having any conclusion that are not theories based on nutritional science. If the diet will even exist in 10 years.
What keto needs is something similar to the plant based diet.
Life expectancy: Evengelic Christians have been registered and plant based back to the 1800s and arguably have the worlds best life expectancy along with 1/3 of india being plant based for generations and modern western vegans showing the best health numbers of all diets.
What the keto diet has is people online saying they feel great along with them showing that thier blood tests are still fine.
The keto diet has been around and studied since the 1920s. If my math is correct thats about 100 years that it has been in existence as a "diet". Not to mention the fact that humans as a species had very little access to carbohydrate rich foods until agriculture took off so in reality the keto "diet" has been around before many of the plants we now have today were first selectively bred to be acceptable for us to consume.
Love how you slipped the Breaking Bad character in winking at the end, lol!!! Perfect timing for this with the release of Game Changers! And love that closing line "the goal of weight loss is not to lighten the load for your pallbearers!"
And there's less chance of hitting the wall in marathons or other endurance trainings
3:15 or parkinson or alzheimers
That is true. Despite having less glycogen, your endurance is extended on a low carb carb diet, once you adapt to it.
@Col83 lmao. You clearly dont understand physiology, or science in general. Alcoholics don't adapt to using ethanol as a fuel source. Every human body will preferentially process ethanol. Alcohol is removed from the bloodstream first, sugar second and fat third. The danger in alcohol withdrawal relates to brain neurotransmitters. Opioid withdrawal danger is basically dehydration. None of those things are like each other. They are not related.
Have a look at 'metabolic substrate testing' in the field of sports physiology. Different athletes naturally process fats and carbs for energy differently. But its also trainable and you can alter it with diet.
Seriously, get out from under the plant based propaganda every now and then and find out what people are learning about physiology.
This is an excellent article on climbing everest without oxygen and shifting his body from sugar burner to fat burner....
www.mensjournal.com/adventure/how-adrian-ballinger-summited-everest-without-oxygen-w484387/
I'm currently running 33% on body fat at the moment. Does that count as keto ?
I swear I can smell it breaking down.
Back to 80:10:10 within 6 months - nice clean-burning fruit and veg.
@@yangtse55 That makes you are sugar burner. 80\10\10 is the stupidest idea around. The *only* two macros that are essential, you are undereating. Mental.
This is probably the best lay-man article on metabolic substrate utilisation...
www.google.com/amp/s/www.samiinkinen.com/post/86875777832/becoming-a-bonk-proof-triathlete-fat-chance/amp
Why aren't the studies linked in the description ?
Take a wild guess!
"Why aren't the studies linked in the description ?"
Go to the same video on the NutritionFacts channel, and all the studies are always linked in the version of the video that is there.
@@karlwheatley1244 Thanks
I am so glad I found your channel. You are very intelligent how you connect the dots. As you said why not recommend the best diet for heart disease, instead of any diet that can produce weight loss and mess up your heart. The illustrations, smoking, meth and can also produce weight loss. I don't know why this common sense is not out there.
I wouldn't praise him too much. The study he is talking about here is a two-week pilot study: it takes between 4-12 weeks to adapt to a ketogenic diet. It's the equivalent of biting into raw cacoa and declaring chocolate ice-cream is disgusting
Prof Jeff Volek examined this topic on ultra-marathon runners, which saw significant benefits in fat oxidation and healthier blood-lipid profile in all of the low-carb intervention group. He explains the findings here in easy to follow language. Certainly worth a watch: th-cam.com/video/tQbgdRoAfOo/w-d-xo.html
Would love more videos about athletes and a WFPB diet, just like this one!
Great job!
He has some on nitric oxide rich foods and athletic performance as well as some on healing time to that you should check out!
Vegan Linked thanks! I saw those!
Quite interesting, however I would like some wfpb advice on bodybuilding given by dr Gregor.
Right on also be sure to check out game changers and there's all kinds of Plant based body builders on TH-cam that give up their whole food plant based diet that you should check out for sure! But you're right he should do a whole series on bodybuilding that would be tight and/or athleticism
Vegan Linked I definitely agree. I love gamechangers. It starts with awareness, and this film is definitely promoting that!
Have you seen the interview with Arnold where he says:” I hate cows milk, almond milk is better”
@@gijshulsebos3528 I don't recall that interview but I did see a screening of game changers about a year ago. It's changed since I've seen it though...
What about the benefits associated with the KD that were not mentioned in the "ketogenic diet and sport, a possible marriage"? They did mention it may not work entirely well for intensive glycoletic demanding activities but may be beneficial in endurance type events. Correct me if I'm wrong since I am unable to find the full text on this next study. The children in the epilepsy study were given a KD diet consisting of soybean and other processed vegetable oils? My argument is for a well formulated whole food ketogenic diet that is rich in healthy nutrient dense whole food organic plant/animal products with periods of TRF and fasting. Or maybe I'm just crazy and living on the edge 😜
Waiting for Bart Kays fuming rebuttal...
I saw one that Bart did where he basically read the tweets from one of the lead authors that Dr Greger used to support his anti-keto claims. Author said that Greger either didn't understand the study, or was chosing to misrepresent it.
I wonder who understands the study better. Greger or the guy who probably 'lived and breathed it' for a year or more.
Can I ask an honest question? How does the body burn fat? Is it when there is no more glucose in the blood and liver left to use, forcing the body to burn fat? Is that process called ketosis or is it something else? If it is ketosis, then why is the keto diet bad - is it just because the keto process goes on too long? Am hoping someone with brains can help me, as all these competing diets and theories are so confusing!
This should be the last nail in the keto coffin for people ..
Unfortunately, those on Keto diet don't have enough glucose feeding their brains to understand the problem.
Not at all. Keto works for people like me with serious chronic pain. I can’t function or provide for my family without using this diet. Horses for courses.
geggs1 sorry for your loss
@@geggs1 I would bet less than 1% are eating keto to treat a medical condition. 99%+ are basically on a fad diet to lose weight.
Alexandre Gareau One thing is for sure. You know nothing about the Keto diet. Just on the bandwagon preaching to the choir.
I've got your book, I truly enjoy your teaching....therefore, you are a GEM! Thank you so much for your work...
Someone please post this on the keto subreddit.
That final line.... ooooffffff!!!
i see that practically everybody i follow on youtube who practice the keto diet also do intermittent fasting... is it possible/probable that the benefits they get are purely just due to the I.F? I'm studying nutrition throuh the royal society for public health here in the u.k, but i also have 2 sisters who are epileptic, so, i'm a little torn in opinion, until i learn more.
Check out the MRI results of 3yr keto/carnivore OMAD eaters...
th-cam.com/video/uXrdP06tfdw/w-d-xo.html
I have been doing vegan combined with intermittent fasting for 4 months and have lost a lot of weight. I've also broken my life-long emotional/mental addiction to food.
@@TheWodeh cool story bro. Except you quite obviously absurdly lied in your other comment, so why would anyone believe you?
@@scrapbus9681 Lied? No, you saying I lied does not make it a lie. I feel great. Someone who isn't as large as I was couldn't lose as much this quickly. I am not losing as much now because I am much lighter now. I am going to switch to juicing veggies/fruit to finish the rest off. Take care.
@@TheWodeh You are correct. Me saying you are lying doesnt make it a lie.
You, quite not telling the truth is what makes it a lie
Oh dear god, the description of the Last Chance Diet made me want to lose my lunch 🤢
How manay crossfittas is vegan?
Two years on Keto diet. bones are denser. Somethings wrong with the study portrayed
How can a keto diet use too much fat we just use 75% fat to enter ketosis after that body use its own fat my belly go in my hormonal facial hair disappear my binge eating hunger go away . What is the other way I am eating a lot of veggies a piece or two of meat just left processed food meat and sugar . What is the alternative which help me lose weight get active to do daily activities and get healthy
I wish this video could’ve gone into more detail about what the research subjects actually ate.
Ketogenic diet simply refers to the macronutrients (high fat-low carb-moderate protein) and can look very different when it comes to food choices.
You have the very Americanized keto where people kill themselves with salami and cream cheese VS the Mediterranean style keto with fatty fish, leafy greens and high amounts of polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats which have a ton of health benefits.
Keto information from a vegan...that's like going to your mechanic for heart surgery.
Hmmmmm....keto diet analysis from an MD PHYSICIAN who is specialized in dietary analysis and research
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keto diet analysis from a bunch of barely-graduated-out-of-high-school "bros" who only get their info from hearsay on Reddit and TH-cam.
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I don't think people have really given a low fat diet the chance it deserves. I watch the people at the grocery store and fat people eat like fat people. I tell people I eat oatmeal, beans, and rice or noodles almost every day and have lost 40 lbs and they don't think that is possible. I tried a meat diet first and lost 20 lbs. I didn't like it and switched to a whole food, mostly plant based diet and continued to lose the same amount of weight. I pick foods on the glycemic index that are medium or lower and eat 3 meals a day, no snacks. They have it kind of right with the low glycemic index, but they take it too far. Fats are not filling, no more than sugars. They're just empty calories.
Im sorry what? Low fat diets are what has caused the obesity epidemic we have today. When fat was removed sugar was added so people would actually eat the flavorless crap.
All these studies are questionable in pro or anti keto cases. I believe in watching how your own body reacts and responds to diet is way better than dogma. People are obviously chasing the dollar and their egos.
Why 'all' of them are questionable? What is it that can be called to question ?
Don't you think that this all-or-nothing take on science can give birth to more conspiracy theories and anti-science scams?
He's on a crusade against keto. Yes.
Just a serie on the topic. That is one dangerous in vogue diet indeed.
yes ..because it is a new and dangerous diet...showing the long term effects is useful for people.
Yes super new. Only been around since the 1920s!!
Damn. This was good 👏
I believe the majority of people do Keto diet gimmick in order to rationalize their animal product consumption.
Bingo ! we all become habituated to a certain diet and then rationalize our continuation of the habit.
You would be wrong. But I'm sure no one can tell you anything
The "gimmick" that has been around since the 1920s?
I love this channel!
what about diabetic typec2 and keto diet ..benifts and costs..
Best thing would be to eat a high fiber, high carb diet [1], and lose weight.
Keto decreases insulin sensitivity and promote T2D.
[1] academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-lookup/doi/10.1093/ajcn/32.11.2312
@@happygimp0 that is such a load of crap... Spoken by someone that doesn't know a single person that has treated their type 2 diabetes with Keto.
Keto will lower your blood glucose, simply because you aren't eating carbohydrates.... however it raises your insulin resistance so as soon as you have one meal with carbohydrates your glucose will spike and remain high. I can say all this from personal experience. Basically you will have to stay in a low carb prison.
@@delishme2 Keto treats T2D but doesnt cure it. Try eating sugar on keto you will become insulin resistant very quickly.
@@enairdaa8312 It forces you into eating none/small amounts of carbs which is stupid. Our ancestors NEVER did this and they could still live to 100.
This video seems to be a critique of doing the keto diet wrong. For the heart disease for instance, this seems to make more sense if one has too much of the polyunsaturated fats that can become unhealthy/oxidized when cooked/fried. For bone loss, that seems to make sense more if one doesn't get sufficient nutrients for the bone, such as found in leafy greens (more than just calcium). Possibly, the acidity of keto could make it easier to absorb the alkalinity of minerals that one gets from eating, though that is my guess at this point.
Keto isn't a diet in the sense that you just eat fat, but is like a diet-structure or diet-framework upon which to build a diet that has sufficient nutrients.
One main purpose of going very low carb is to reduce insulin levels to avoid the problems with chronically high insulin levels. Keto is also a stepping stone for fasting, which has even more benefits.
Also, some problems in doing keto come from not being fat adapted enough and pushing too fast, particularly if one starts keto while doing athletic activity. I heard it can take up to a year to get adapted athletically.
A two week study... Wow, bruh.
There is no study that I can find that shows that the keto diet causes osteoporosis. My endocrinologist at a major university does not know of one either. If you find a reputable study. Please reply with links. I am not trying to be confrontational. Educate if you can, I don't care about your opinions.
Let me get this straight
Actual ATHLETES would choose a diet that completely and permanently depletes glycogen stores ?
Yes and there are many that do.
athletes do a lot of crazy things in order to perform, a lot of times it's more about the belief that its better than if its actually better
Yes. There are many althletes who are keto or low carb. A lot of ultra-runners, ironmen and triathletes do exactly that, simply because you can train your body to preferentially use fat as a fuel source rather than glucose.
A good example? Zac Bitter who does most of his training as a carnivore /keto is the current 100 mile world record holder running 6:48 per mile, for 100 miles. The fastest erg (machine test) in the US team is also zero-carb. So those are both ends of the endurance extreme.
For us 'mere mortals', unless you are in the gym for 3hrs working out at high, you have more than enough muscle glycogen for your given sport. And that glycogen replenishes whether you eat carbs or not.
Also, as you adapt to a low carb diet, you use less glycogen, and more fat at any given intensity. You can see this in a metabolic substrate test. A 'fat-adapted' athlete might burn 70% fat/30% carbs, while a 'sugar burner' might have the opposite numbers
Hahahaha! You guys are funny. A keto/carnivore diet is why we evolved to have big brains and short digestive tracks. Go ahead and eat your sugary foods and be happy. Those of us that follow a keto/carnivore WOE will reap the benefits. By the way, I have gained over 20lbs of lean muscle in 18 months on a keto diet. This video is complete BS!
@@CarnivoreBum how many steroids ?
What do your bloods look like, health-wise ?
Some of us prefer to live long, heathy lives.
My personal target is that have the BMI of the average Japanese male.
Mean while... vegan diet gives you binocular vision .. means you have to wear binoculars for vision..
MAD MAXIMUS -- your silly statement is ironic considering that a high fat diet is likely to be low in carotenoids (only available from plants) thus leading to a gradual loss of night vision.
Of course the same deficiency exists in the SAD, with all its low nutrient fast food. Which explains why so many people drive at night with their high beams permanently on -- they just don't have good enough night vision to drive without the equivalent of floodlights.
Brad Hansen 1st learn to take a joke sir. Second if so people eating bucket loads of carrot should never have perfect 10 vision.
MAD MAXIMUS -- I could see it was an attempt at humor, but bullies often clothe their attacks as 'just joking'. And your 'joke' was clearly mean spirited, on the borderline with bullying.
Brad Hansen not really.. it’s usually loners and socially retarded morons who follow a cult and stupid enough to label it on a food source.
@@maverick5989 yes but he labeled you as a bully so in today soyboy society he won. Lolololol
There is a lot of sadness in the world! Give and get as many hugs as you can! xo
You should talk to Thomas Delaur, a professional body builder.
Can somebody do a test. We know for most people cholesterol increases on keto. What happens to the TC/HDL ratio and triglycerides compared to high complex carb approach? then correlate this to Sones, and Cleveland Clinic Studies 1979 where they took all the blood work of patients a month before bypass surgery
Why do you think this ratio is important?
"We know for most people cholesterol increases on keto. "
An assumption.
What we know is Remnant cholesterol and triglycerides drop on a keto diet. The high cholesterol values are what cholesterolcode.com refers to as Lean mass hyper responders. Their LDL is the for lack of a better description 'the soft fluffy kind'.
HDL is not protective.
@@allencrider TC:HDL ratio is a common predictor for heart disease risk. The higher your ratio the greater the risk. My TC is 109 mg/dl, my hdl is 46 mg/dl. My TC:HDL ratio is 2.36.
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/752318
HDL may not be protective in and of itself but it is quite useful for prediction. It's also rather interesting especially that its function is improved by resistance training.
@@stingrae789 It's not an assumption. It occurs automatically in any primate when you consume protein and sat. Fat. In perhaps 1 percent of people they lose so much weight that their total cholesterol drops.
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What about a plant based keto diet centered around green veggies, coconut & chia? Hard to believe that would be bad for bones
It would be fine without the coconut.
That's actually keto done the correct way. Done correctly, it includes lots of plant foods: veggies, leafy greens, nuts, avocados, cold pressed coconut oil, MCT oil, etc.
@@maver1que It's obviously not "keto" because you won't be in ketosis.
@@DinarAndFriends Sure it is!! I do it every day, and verify that I'm in ketosis via blood samples!
@@maver1que Obviously you are not eating mainly plants, as you claim. Or your equipment is faulty. Or you have diabetes.
Truth bombs KABLAM! 🌱✊
Except that is bullshit and if you actually read the very same articles shown in here, it turns out the best diet was carnivore...
Nutritional truth bombs and a Walter White reference! Who could ask for more in a video? Wish there was a "love" button to smash for this one!!
Cue brainless comments from Eric Berg fanboys who moved from junk-food type 1 (burgers) to junk-food type 2 (grass fed meat) and don't quite understand atherosclerosis.
Ever heard of "Healthy keto"...probably not coz you're a Greger fanboy yourself and don't bother to hear anyone else's opinion.
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>>"Healthy keto"
I've also heard of flying elephants.
>>don't bother to hear anyone else's opinion
I'm not interested in people's "opinions". Just the science.
@@kayondothomas7343 healthy is when you get off keto. It's not a useful long term diet
@@kayondothomas7343 Balance of evidence matters. The balance of evidence suggests Keto is a bad diet relative to many other commonly recommend diets including whole-foods plant-based.
@@LivingMidnight Tell that to Epileptic and cancer patients.
I was a bit frightened by Heisenberg's cameo in this video. 😨😨
thank you for stating the obvious about this horrible miscarriage of a diet, Dr G. do please complete the series but then lets move on to serious matters.
Jesus diet is best, lamb grapes bread and red wine lol
0:50 even the paper itself admits the trial sucks.
Ahh dang, and I liked doing keto too
Then ignore this biased cherry-picked pile of garbage mascarading as a scientific review.
His last video was actually called out as misleading by the lead study author, who said that Greger was either misrepresenting or misunderstanding the study and results.
Ergophobia... that's what I've struggled with all my life.
Whole reason I went Vegan, I was hoping for some kind of NZT-48 benefit.
Oh how deep was my disappointment.
No matter, with Veganism seemingly, I can just eat like Mr. Creosote and achieve a healthy weight WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT.
It's a no brainer... all the more reason it's the diet for me. 🤣
I’m sure this video makes total sense to anyone who’s never done a real keto diet themselves.
That ending tho.....
I like your book but i dont agree with your views on keto. It's clear that the studies weren't conducted well or fairly. You'd have to try keto for over a year to see and feel the results. Also blood work proves it as well. Yet all the studies you found somehow show all negative results.
Top health and keto doctors: Dr. Eric Berg DC & Dr. Sten Ekberg
Peace and health !
Quack quack.
What would Walter White do? Go on the Eisenberg diet. Lol