Supernote Update 2.7.21 (2.6.21 beta): Real-Time Handwriting Recognition Is Here!
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00:00 - Intro
01:42 - General Fixes and Updates
04:54 - Real-Time Handwriting Recognition
16:54 - Editing Handwriting Recognition
21:15 - Conclusion
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Supernote is about to get another big update. While it is still in beta, I considered this one important enough to cover a bit early, considering that it is the end of the year, and the update contains a significant new functionality that might be a valuable piece of information for someone who is trying to reach a purchasing decision. The Supernote platform is finally getting real-time handwriting recognition. While it's not ideal, it does an excellent job and expands the overall usability and functionality of the Supernote platform in quite a significant way.
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thanks for the great review. I want to point out a really great design decision from Ratta team: recognizition is completely offline, i.e. you don't need WIFI access to use it. This also makes it really stable as everything is done locally. As a device like supernote is for me a thing to carry around a lot in different environments it is very very nice that I very rarely need a WIFI connection. Beyond that I think it works really smooth.
Yeah, very important point I forgot to mention, thank you for pointing it out :)
Really important point. For me it is not just about the convenience not to need Wifi but also about privacy. I can take sensitive notes, convert and transfer them via USB without ever sending them to the cloud. That is huge for my field of work in the welfare and social work sector.
@@sozialpr oh my gosh! I did not even think of or consider that point. Yes, this is a use case I'd use from time to time. Rare, but I would use it. Very good point! Thank you!
@@sozialpr I was wondering about that. Good to know.
You are easily the best reviewer on TH-cam for e-ink and also reader tablets!
Thank you very much!
It’s really hard to deny the software advantages the Supernote has. It feels the most like a notebook, hands down. It’s interesting the different routes being taken. Boox and BigMe seem to push for a tablet-like experience, ReMarkable pushes for a paperlike/design experience, Amazon pushes for a “best Kindle ever (with note taking glued on…barely)” experience, yet only Ratta seems to have deep note-taking functionality as its first priority.
I purchased the device about a year ago, and i'm loving it. I'm surprised this feature was released, didn't realize so many people wanted it. I personally have been waiting for the screen share. It's a feature I can use in my meetings as software engineer. Great review though! I always checkout your videos when a new update has arrived. Keep it up!
It is crazy the amount of features they push before screen share. Been waiting a long time for that one :/
No kidding, screen sharing is the only reason I haven't replaced my Remarkable2 with Supernote
Thank you so much for your dedication in publishing such definitive reviews. Could you perhaps look at how this release handles embedded sketches (eg a chart or other scribbled sketch) along with text that is not fully horizontal (eg random annotations or text along the vertical axis of a chart)? Does it recognise and convert the text at all, and how does it integrate with the sketch... or are non-text objects just ignored in the converted version?
I have been a loyal RM2 user for 2 years, and.. a couple of days ago I received Supernote A5X. Wow, just wow! I am so impressed by the quality of the software, how seamlessly, effortlessly and enjoyably the device works. Thank you for a great review, as always!
Thank you for the demo. I’ve been using it for a while and love it. One minus is that I wish you could search in global search between notebooks.
For real time handwriting recognition to work reliably, the main thing is that it's got constraints and thus I think why it's the special template. It's not that it cannot be applied to other types of books, but it's that the lines are the constraints for writing. Even in Windows where it can see your letter the instant you write it, it MUST be within the area that's expecting writing. So you have to trade off flexibility for speed in this way. Otherwise, the machine will struggle because it doesn't realize you're writing diagonally or upside down or super huge on a page.
A very good point and excellent clarification, thank you :)
@@MyDeepGuide You might be able to test this by writing at angles, in between the lines, make letters cover two lines, sideways, etc. I'm just speculating, but in general, the computer has to have a 'baseline' for the recognition and typically, the lines serve that purpose. Let us know what happens when you try to 'trick' the recognition software. :)
I purchase my Ax 6 a month ago based on your reviews. Much thanks. 🙏🌸
Voja, thank you so very much for this timely review! I only just received my SN on Friday (early Xmas gift from my husband) and only last night I downloaded the beta. If they had not had this beta option, I would have had to return the SN because my whole reason for getting into e-ink is to quit having to type up my longhand writing. I was up until very late last night experimenting with the new features and confused by how some of this works--your video cleared these things up and I am going to head to work right now using your guide with my new download! Cannot thank you enough!!
Voya, as always, a great review. I love all of the new functionality and Ratta as a company is amazing. They actually just released the full version either yesterday or the day before. I downloaded it and upgraded from the beta. As this continues to improve, I see them as a leader in the space more and more.
This is great! Thanks Voja!! I think it would be great in future if there is a link created between a note and exported word document so you can continue writing in a note and export new handwritten additions into the linked document which keeps your previous edits in the document. I hope this makes sense 😅
This is brilliant! Thank you for covering this beta, it's very exciting. In the tradition of wanting even more with every improvement, it would be so very excellent if converted pages could be appended to existing Word documents, so you wouldn't have to re-recognize and edit every time you add to a notebook. I hope they add that as a feature.
Voja another terrific video - glad you are back home and hope your family is okay. Your work for the e-ink community is deeply appreciated … and MDO saved my work life this year! A great product- got next years loaded and ready to go!
Thank you very much! I am happy to hear that MDO is working for you, just remember to do a regular backup, especially when using for work :)
Thanks!
👍👍- gracias Voya. You're the best e-ink device reviewer.
Thank you :)
Great review 😊. Not sure if you’ve tried using the writing input instead of the keyboard - I find it much quicker to input characters than the keyboard. I also love the hand writing recognition and searching. The last thing is to hopefully allow the region eraser and also converting original notebook to the new type. You can copy a page in the original and copy to the new note type - so I think it’s just a matter of time that they include a complete notebook conversion.
Congratulations for you excellent site. I believe that the Supernote correct update is 2.7.21 for the A5X. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Merry Christmas and thank you :) Yes it is, but as the title says, I was reviewing it while it was still in beta, and as you can also see in the video, the version then was 2.6.21.
this is so exciting!
This is excellent news. The Supernote will be my Christmas present. Thanks for your helpful review! Can't wait to write on the Supernotie. I live in Europe and hope they can provide an azerty keyboard.
To my knowledge only France and Belgium use AZERTY. Many other European countries like Denmark, Spain, The Netherlands, etc use QWERTY.
Thanks.
Yay handwriting recognition 👍
Big, competitive step in a direction that was needed. I hope they get more faithful to breaks in the text. Editing your text a second time sort of took my excitement away. I hope there is notebook type conversion on the way. I still think it would benefit me to get a Supernote and collect a bunch of post-it notes I have falling out of notebooks everywhere in one device. I have a Motorola G Stylus and like using Bamboo Paper notes but the handwriting on the G is not good. I adapted some but Supernote finally looks like something I'd enjoy more
Man...I really wish remarkable supports this. Search for a handwritten text and highlight exactly it.
Wonder if you can cut and paste into this type of note from a standard note. That would be quite useful. Thanks for this review! Just got my Supernote this week and your content has been extremely helpful!
Yes, you can. i have taken parts of existing notes and pasted them into the new document type, and they converted. Old handwriting is harder to convert because it's sloppier than that I would use now knowing I can now convert to Text/Word. Thanks Voya!
I was literally about to ask this. That isn't a bad workaround at all tbh.
Great channel, subscribed! I can see from your demo that you can search for a word in your document. If you have a number of handwriting recognition documents, can you do a broad search for a word across multiple documents?
Thank you and welcome to the community! :) As of yet no, but I think that this is something that's on their RoadMap for future updates.
Great video Voja: Regarding your conclusion and the fact, that you have to decide before you write: If you copy a page from a normal notebook in a real-time notebook it will analyze and convert the handwriting of the copied page. At least it does for me.
Yes, of course it will, but that's impractical if you have a 20 page notebook that you'd like to convert. So it would be nice if they made a simple internal script that would copy paste pages from a standard to a real-time conversion notebook and call it as a, for example, convert notebook function :) Just to make things more streamlined and that users don't have to do it manually, one page at a time.
@@MyDeepGuide Oh I defininetly agree with you regarding the notebook conversion, no argument. I just wanted to point out that it is feasible for short notes.
If I understood Ratta in the beta reddit correctly they are already thinking about notebook conversion.
@@MyDeepGuide At reddit, users have mentioned the desirability of being able to copy all pages of a notebook at once to another notebook (whether or not of the same type) instead of one page at a time.
The highlighted of a searched word will remain until we remove the word from the search bar. It is the way in Good Notes in Ipad. I feel it is a not a bug.
I wonder if they are licensing the same HR technology as the Kobo Elipsa. That tablet requires you to choose to make a handwriting-recognizing note ahead of time as well.
Probably not the same the same, but it may be similar in a sense that it uses the info on the evolution on the shape as you write to determine the characters better. That would explain, why they cannot just put the old notebooks through this recognition engine.
1:02 The reMarkable 3?!
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Oh, I see. I just got the software update to version 3.0.4. Oh, man! This is amazing! Hand-writing to text on the fly!
Update 2.6.21 is available and it's a very good update at that. Text recognition is very accurate. Of note in my case, the dramatic battery consumption, went down from 85% to 34% in the few minutes I tested text recognition out.
Hi, thanks for your videos. Do the supernote tablets offer cursive conversion to text and is the French language supported? My notes are all in French. Merci
Any chances there will be reviews on note air2 updates? There hasn't been any for quite a while. My current version is 3.2.2
This feature is the feature I've been waiting for. I suspect I'll be buying one of these later this year. I have no use for a device that doesn't transcribe effectively and efficiently.
Do you have any plans to review the new iReader Smart Air 2022?
What pen are you using? and I also want to let you know that your videos have been extremely helpful for me. Thank you!
I think that I was using the Kindle Scribe pen in this video. And thank you for watching and for the support :)
Hi, thanks for your videos! Is it possible to search your handwritten or text notes for a word without already having marked the word as a keyword?
Would be great to have the recognized text as a layer below the written text in a pdf export.
I really need to understand the magic that many people use when writing, because the auto conversion seems to miss most of the words I write :D Nice to have this feature now, but it is a shame you need to create a brand new workbook for it from the start. Also it is locked to one language, so if I speak more than one language and want to write in those languages, I need to create one for English and one for each other languages, because the conversion rely on a set language. I don't believe Boox does that, and translate into text whatever you write, as long as it is in Latin alphabet .
As far as missing feature, split screen is a big one. If you do the handwriting conversion, and you have 10 pages, do you remember every page and can tell what was written on it, when proofreading? What about 100 pages? Boox did this better by splitting the screen between converted text and handwriting section, so you can go line by line and make the appropriate changes. Also split screen in general is great, take notes while having a document open is probably the most used activity among people that write, beside writing itself
Can you copy from a regular (old) notebook to a real-time notebook and, therefore, have it recognize the text? I.e., a back door approach to recognize handwriting from non-real-time notebooks.
The answer is yes. (I just upgraded)
This real time handwriting recognition feature is one of my most important features in finding an electronic note taking device. I thought I had decided on getting a Boox Tab Ultra C, but... actually I don't seem to be able to find any details of Boox devices having this! Would anyone know?
I have my AX5 since 6 months ago and super happy with it. Though, the eraser gesture (2 fingers+loop around) doesn't work: I know the theory (the angle around etc) but it's not reliable and many times the erase mode doesn't get activated and you just write a loop around, having to repeat the process in the middle of writing which distracts a lot. Would be much reliable to set a fixed area (or maybe two, e.g.in two corners) where puting a finger on activated the erase mode. Do you have this same experience?
I do, sometimes it works perfect, sometimes I draw multiple circles around what I want to erase
Thanks for this great overview of handwriting recognition. I appreciate it since I'm seriously considering an A5X. Are there any issues when you go to add material to a document that already has recognition activated? Does it simply scan in the new text or scan the entire document all over again?
I don't know if it does just a partial or a complete rescan, but it does update the contents, and you can always manually rescan, in case it is needed, but I haven't ran into such an issue yet.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks!
Do you have to press the Ai button for the text you have written to be searchable, or is the recognised text searchable I t he background anyway?
Would love to see native OneDrive integration with SuperNote. It's the only thing keeping me from jumping on one of these
That's on their RoadMap and should be coming fairly soon :)
@@MyDeepGuide Excited to hear this! Although I realize now that I mistyped and I meant OneNote integration haha. Do you know if that's on their roadmap too?
I don't think it is.
Thank you for the video Voja! Do you think it is unnecessary to make standards notes anymore because of this addition?
Not really, as you need to remember that the real-time recognition notes will consume the battery faster, since the CPU will be working more.
They should be used on a per need basis.
What kind of pen is this with the easer feature
Could you share what pen you are using?
What pen are you using ?
The day Supernote implements Screenshare it is over for everyone else, simply because the screenshare from Boox is so janky.
Does the handwriting conversion also works for German?
I am waiting for my Supernote delivery (!!) - out of interest why would anyone pick standard anymore?!
Looks really cool. But my next eNote should add more colors... Don't see a point to have multiple greyscale eNotes... reMarkable and Supernote, when is it coming out?
So you can’t save your your handwriting to text conversion in PDF format? That’s weird….
Any idea when it will come out of beta?
It's already out now :)
Paragraphs? Maybe not.
Oh no! Supernote used ‘it’s’ when it needed to use ‘its’ 7:58.
It fixed your spelling error
Is that the large or small device
The large one, Supernote A5X
I don’t see the update
It's in beta (like the video titles says), should come out next year as a stable release.
@@sozialpr "Next year" sounds far away. It's probably a matter of a few weeks. Supernote's general rollouts seem to happen pretty soon after the second beta.
@@blitherithicus Yepp but next year is in a few weeks. :) Thanks for the input, I really did not think about how long it might sound.
It has arrived. I just downloaded 2.7.21 on my Supernote which arrived unexpectedly this morning (I'm not complaining).
@@tastiger thanks got it
Supernote must create an app that is cross-platform, which can be opened in touch screens of windows, ipad, etc.,
Why?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your generosity! :)
@@MyDeepGuide Voya, you have such a professional approach in delivering quality reviews! I have been a beneficiary since your reviews on Remarkable 1. I appreciate you.