THE BEST CYCLING SHOES?!
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- What are the best cycling shoes?! James (JTBIKEFIT) gives us his opinion on how to choose the right pair and what to expect when you go into a bike shop after some.
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I started filming stuff in April 2016. Now we're travelling the world and filming it, I'd forget what I've done otherwise.
Helmet Squeeze!!
That's because he's trying to get his head around the space/time continuum thing.....like in the terminator if you go back in time & fathered a child in the past, that child ends up as your future self. WTF!!!
James: cycling shoe isn't complicated
also James: explains for next 10 mins
Since I've stopped watching channels like Cycling Weekly and bike radar and starting watching channels like Francis Cade and Hambini, I've actually learned something about cycling. Keep it up, Francis!
thanks for watching and merry Christmas 🌲
Loving there bikefituesdays. could literally listen to him talk about bike fit for hours, the guy seems to really know his stuff!
The chap who best fit me in my current cycling shoes measured my foot, chose the shoe, then had we wear the shoe around the store, (whilst we discussed the new fad of 1x drive trains) for about 45 minutes to let my feet swell (if they were going to) then re-checked the fit. They were two sizes down from the last pair I had bought from a different store, (same brand shoes, [Sidi] ). This fellow, Mike Wood of Team Active, Battle Creek, did me a huge favor that day. He fitted me like a bike store employee should. They still feel great.
Wide feet here! My Speshy's BG fit have been spot on for years. Did a 1000km ride and had no prob whatsoeva!
Ps. I like James. He's quite the character
I swear everytime i watch a bikefituseday i learn something new.
This guy is a treasure.. and so are you for bringing him to us viewers 😀👍
Franciiiiiiiiis! I've got a question I'd love to propose for next Monday/Tuesday if I may?
Basically.. handlebars/bar tape & hand numbness.
I had a questionable "bike fit" done on a turbo and simply by eye a few years back which, to be fair, fixed many problems and probably saved my knees from turning to dust. I haven't moved my position since as I don't really feel the need to and I've stayed almost pain free. However, numb hands after 2+ hours of riding is a recurrent issue. The last time I changed bar tape to a softer, thicker than usual set was brilliant initially, but as it started to wear down I noticed the numbness returning.
I'd love to know whether that's just my hand/vessel physiology or whether it's likely to be a fitting issue? My saddle and bars are completely level with the hoods obviously sticking up for a comfy grip. I don't find that I'm forced forwards onto the bars to support much weight. It's a confusing one!
Thanks in advance, much appreciating the content!
Train your core so it handles your weight rather than it all being on your arms/hands
This is a huge problem where I live. All of the local shops don't bother with shoes, so you have to either travel hundreds of miles or order online. That means you have to do that distance twice, because your size won't be in stock and you just can't trust online ordering for something as critical as shoes.
Catching up on your vlogs from the past couple of months, had to decide between TH-cam and grand tour coverage for my non ride hours, and really enjoying "bike fit Tuesdays" with James - his explanations are clear and concise, he is interesting to listen to ... and I learn things. Thanks for adding James as a regular feature of your vlogs. Your vlogs are nicely done, with quality and content - worth the time to view, Thank You!!
Question/statement: Hand numbness and the hoods! Can you hold the hoods in the 'wrong' position, which contributes to numbness? I wondered if my fit was bad and/or weak core muscles - as my hands went numb. But I played around with different positions and seemed to have solved it. The hand position I saw James use in this video is what I settled on. Is there an area of the hand you want to keep pressure free?
The more I listen to what James says about Bike Fit, the more I want to get a Professional one done. Cost be Damn! ✊
But why would you spent x amount on a bike, x amount on shoes, x amount on clothing, x amount on a helmet and not spent x amount of making sure it all f'king fits?
You dont just walk into a tailors, point at a £1000 suit and say "I'll have that one". You get measured and then fitted.
Now, the other side of the coin is exactly what James said: lots of 'bike fitters' emerging that have watched a youtube video on how to use a particular fitting system with motion capture and suddenly theyre an expert charging you £150 - £300 a fit.
Find people who have been fitted. Find out if they got a good fit or were 'fitted up' then pick the one who has the best reviews. Remember that some people travel miles just to go to a specific shop (whatever the business) because of the quality service. Why wouldnt you do the same?
chriszanf I have been riding a long time and I have read and watched numerous things on bike fit. I don't suffer from any discomforts or pains, even after riding my longest ride of 201.38 miles. I am more curious as to how closely I have my bike dialed in..,but a really good bike fit is expensive. On the other hand, I get your point. We spend exorbitant amounts of money to ride, why not a bit more to get fitted the best you can
To be fair, an earlier vlog from Francis convinced me to go get one done ... I ended up lowering my saddle by almost 1cm and reducing my stem slightly and it feels like a new bike. Best £80 I have ever spent!
Yup, fit is the #1 most important thing. If it doesn't fit, one doesn't balance on the bike naturally, and it's just a waste of money. There are a couple of approaches, but check out how Vanilla does it: th-cam.com/video/AkCbzv44RWw/w-d-xo.html
This may sound weird but from many years of not riding clipless and then going clipless and a pair of specialized mountain biking shoes it felt like I almost had to retrain my pedal stroke because of the advantages of being clipped in. And in doing that retraining my brain the numbness has gotten way my feet feel more stable my pedal stroke is certainly more stable and the power down put is even better especially climbing. I wonder if James might have some input on that theory of somebody that's not used to being clipped in having to retrain their mind on what their feet are doing, like that's spatial awareness that you talked about
Always enjoy james' ramblings
Top bombing Sir. Could listen to James all day.
You've got good feet....Foot fetishTuseday? Haha.
#2! Your videos are awesome, Francis!
For next week: how to get the correct saddle width
Easy, cardboard, tin foil....sit on it and measure to the centre of your sit bones add 20-30mm....
All i could think while i watched this video, was how smart his jersey is!.
Need to be lean to carry that look...sadly...
Travy Gumbo ouch 😂
That was referring to myself :-)
Travy Gumbo I did think u was haha just funny cause I'm no slim chicken either :p
As always, a great vid, though the more I listen to James' thoughts, the more depressed I become as I realise that I'm doing several things wrong. I now have a £240 pair of Sidi's that may be for sale soon. They're a size 44 and after measuring my foot using Lake's online guide, realise that I should be in a size 41W!! I do have insoles though :-)
James is a valuable guest... lots of knowledge...
+BIGD_OTheVegan too right!
Sidi wire carbon SP specific 👌 sweet vid Francis and thanks for the info James, always good to learn new things! Even when it's about feet
Hi, I changed from my old shimano plastic sole to new Giro Empire (laces) last april due to foot pain (arch). The pain was exacerbated with the carbon sole of the Giro. So I got orthotics insole made. Then the pain in my arch went away, but I got acute pain on the outside of my foot (near the small toe). I found out that my shoes were too tight, so the podiatrist stretched my shoes and I relaxed the fit of the laces near my toes and tight the laces closer to my ankle and this seems to solve the last foot problem. I am now slowly recovering (as I am still riding a lot) from these foot injuries.
Johnny Cab - cycling shoes are not complicated, but they are specific to the wearer. I just spent a whole day trying on the majority of brands and have found the correct shoe for me -Sidi - as they are the only ones that fit my foot shape.
Now the real question - White or black? White is right, but black is easier to keep clean and durable for all conditions - not to mention traditional...
Thanks for the video Francis. Please thank James for the info.tell him I'm thinking of coming up from Cornwall for a bike fit at some stage had my fourth major op 17 months ago, just been on my second bike ride.
The giro empire SLXs are awesome shoes, and come with three different arch support soles to suit your foot!
What’s the basis on James’ opinion that ‘everyone needs orthotics in their shoes’? Why is it relevant that the person can feel an orthotic in their shoes whilst riding, if they’re not having any foot or lower limb issues?
If the cleats are attached under the forefoot (metatarsal heads) for maximum force during the down phase of the pedal stroke, what good is having mid or rearfoot support - there is no heel or midfoot ground reaction force?
Can you please elaborate?
from what I think he's said in a previous video is that it's a proprioceptive thing. But you are right if there is no ground reaction force then the support in a shoe is less important. and if someone is having issues in their legs it is likely resulting from a muscle imbalance rather than having no support in their shoes. of course, there would be exceptions to this.
If that's the case, simply add a pre-fabricated innersole. However, as he states; wearing shoes with a much firmer outsole, such as carbon fibre is much better at reducing flexion through the foot and absorbing into the shoe itself and minimising through the foot (which is what occurs when walking/running, etc).
I appreciate everything that he's said in the 'bike fit tuesday' videos regarding various aspects on bike fit and position. I was just curious to know his rationale behind his statement is all.
That was for me, good info but I gess deep inside I allredy knew that.
I descoverd that I probobly hav Run a size to big all this time.
But as you say, shoes are a dificule matter and should be taken seriesly. Sorry for the spelling.
I constantly get numb toes when I ride, I’ve tried different sizes different cleat positions, different syle shoes everything i can think of what the problem could be. Any suggestions from you guys ?
Loving the videos buddy where did you get those graffiti sunglasses you were wearing 🤔
loving bike fit Tuesdays
Talented as well in guitar as in interview!
Really liking these bike fit Tuesday video's. keep them coming !
Happy Birthday mate keep going and make these amazing videos 👍🏻👍🏻
+Mahyar Latifaltojjar cheers!
love these bikefit tuesday's!!!
Good stuff Francis, I get pins & needles in my feet & cramp, I have shimano entry level Velcro MTB shoes.
Good tips for you Francis always buy a pair of cycling shoes unless you've only got 1 leg obviously.
I get numb feet only when pushing hard. Most people I speak to get this as well. IS this normal or just poorly fitting shoes? My shoes are fairly snug, shimano R260's with the customise insoles in them.
Maybe I’m wrong but I didn’t hear you mention BONT shoes?!?! If there is one brand who caters to somebody who is looking for a perfect fit BONT is the way to go.
I've decided I hate clipless cycling shoes. They are more efficient for climbing, but... I've gone through several brands, including $1000 custom fit shoes with custom orthotics on custom-fit, custom built bikes. I rode 25k miles with touring shoes on off-the-shelf bikes, not even the right size, with not a single joint issue. But click-in shoes f'd my knees up in short order. Some are better than others, but I think the lack of pronation and paucity of cushion is just unnatural, and is a bad thing. No one I have ever known with touring shoes has ever had an issue, but they *all* have trouble off-and-on since going clipless. They just figure it's aging, but I know 70 year olds in touring shoes that are fine. I'm glad it works for some people, but it sucks for me.
Why doesn't Sigma sport stock the Specialized S-Works 6 in wide and narrow fit? They are widely available in mainland Europe and the states, so why doesn't any Specialized stores carry them in the UK????
Good to know they exist. I have also found lack of availability in the wide and especially narrow (as I would need) options (assuming they actually exist of course) in any cycle or running shoes in the UK is very common. Presume lack of demand. Sigma do (or did) stock all the width options in Bont shoes however.
Great video. I wish shoe manufactures would be more consistent within their own model line. I bought my SWorks a couple years ago and they fit like a dream, wear and tear has me looking to replace them, but the current SWorks is much narrower and finding something that hits the same sweet spot is hard. Also finding shops that carry a wide enough selection of manufactures is nearly impossible.
Great content here. Indeed persuaded me to sign up for a bike fit with James in a few weeks. Does Francis get a commission! :) I always found shoes a "problem" as I have very long (48 or 49) but narrow feet. If I find something long enough they are usually then too wide. Currently in S Works 6 with the green max arch support inserts (I don't wear inserts in my running shoes so tend to agree with the comments about probably needing them in bike shoes) which aren't perfect but better than other ones have had which included the "narrow" version of the Bont Vaypors which did not find that narrow actually. Interesting to see in other comments there is a narrow version of the S Works. No more impulse buys though until been checked out :)
I love hearing you guys talk at length about the ergonomics of cycling. I just wish I knew a single goddamn thing about bike shoes because I really want to get proper shoes and pedals but money is so hard to come by that I don't want to waste a single cent. I don't want something that I at best don't need or at worst could actually hurt me. Help!¡!¡!
Literally just ordered some lake cx237 widefit, eu43 before watching this video. Was getting a numb foot in eu44 planetx shoes. Great advice as always.
Chill improvisation near the end 🌴
It's really is funny how many riders uncomfortably ride bling bikes. Spend your money on your contact points 1st...it'll keep you riding longer. I wonder the statistic of used bikes sold for no other reason than uncomfortable ride quality, on their CARBON DI2 pain machine with crappy thin bartape and shit factory saddle. Why not drop back to a 105 bike let's say and get good tape , seat, bibs and shoes and upgrade your group later. If you're not comfortable you won't be riding enuff to make the upgrade worth while anyway. See ya tomorrow. ...CHEERS
Hey Francis! Been watching for longer than I can remember - it's now a daily task. Great content! On longer rides my feet get numb, why is this?
Thanks for a video full of wisdom. Keep them coming.
Northwave are good for wider feet...as I've discovered.
Agreed. I have feet wide as duck's and Northwaves fit me perfectly
timinno but they ugly as sin! Any white outs? I'll check them out 👍🏼
poo coloured with pink elephants as long as they fit proper! =D
Flying Cirkus I'd buy that colourway 😂 I'm pretty sure pink elephants add watts 💕⚡️🐘⚡️💕
I like me gear to look on point, they have a decent enough range. Sure you'd be able to find something to your taste.
Question for next week: how do you know that you should buy a different size stem?
And yes, this partly an attempt to get some inuendos in the video. But also a genuine question.
I just bought my first cycling shoes two weeks ago, and unfortunately the salesperson didn't really know enough to help me make a purchase. I was able to get them fitted properly though, and the cleat position seems okay so hopefully they will work out well in the long run. After a few rides they don't hurt at least!
i was getting a bit of hotfoot towards the end of my 6 -9 hr rides in the peaks....i sorted it by doing up the shoes tighter and getting fitter, which is weird because when I use to do ironman races I'd undo the shoe a bit to alleviate the ache. Both issues I think are a process of getting fitter to the task in hand in a specific landscape, climate and intensity.
Buying some Lake shoes on your recommendation!
i love bike fit tuesday
Very useful thing to have. Shaving everything,
awesome work Francis!
And with a round off from Jack Johnson on the Strat! Nice!
Love to see Sir.james explain about something? ...
Question per shoes I get a light pain in my right foot on the outside all my shoes are Mavic is this a sign of to small of a fit or not wide enough it seems to be on the stiffer shoes that I get the pain. Cheers
This is a very good vlog info on it with JTBIKEFIT talking about cycling shoes and it's also very interesting to read comments from people who also suggest shoes for those of us have difficult shoe sizes/fit in every shoes never mind cycling shoes. Me 6/6.5 dd fit and that's just normal shoes.
That guitar sounds so look Sweet!!! Helmet squeeze
Is your man James Cavendish's taller twin ?
James, surely in your experience you have observed that shoe size is not the same across all brands? Not all brands comply with standards associated with the Branncock foot measuring tool.
This is from my experience - your thoughts?
Hence why buying online is fraught with danger - support your local bike shop I say. 🚴🚴
Can a bad shoe fit or a wrongly positioned cleat cause metatarsalgia?
I have no problem cycling, but as i do triathlons, i have developed a bad pain in the ball of the foot and toes.
This occured some time after i took up cycling. Been struggling with it for over a year now. Tried new running shoes and exercised but havent still god rid of the pain.
And also what kind of classic handlebars are those on your black bike
Clean that bike Mr Cade
+Chris Hall road worn.
Gravel ride has been postponed because of the rain :(
I've literally just bought a pair of Fizik R1Bs after owning a pair of Diadora Jet Racers for 5 years! Tried a few sizes on and settled on a size that worked for me but after being on a few rides I'm getting hotspots and some discomfort towards the rear of the ball of my foot almost on the sole of my foot. Could this be down to cleat position? Any advice on setting up cleats correctly please?
Cheers for any help with this. Really want to try and get it sorted if possible.
I know this probably wont get answered but here I go anyhow. This past weekend I rode 60 miles and after about the 40th mile or so on both my feet my big toe started to hurt (almost like a cramp, with some tingy sensations). I've never had this feeling before on my toes so was wondering what this could mean. On avg I ride about 60 miles spread out between two days, sometimes less.
is there a big difference in the last/fitting between the lake 402 and the 332
Sounds like im right in thinking its time to replace my shoes and I'm going to have to spend money :(
Hey francis
I just bought northwave jet evo road shoes. Whats do u think of thm
Hi - I have sever pronation and wide feet. I run Specialized shoes with a great deal of wedges and insole wedges - I'm thinking of going to BONT - but then I won't have the 6 degree of pronation cant that Specialized builds into their shoes - should I stay with Specialized?
I'm looking for new shoes.. I'm currently using a pair of older Shimano SPD SL shoes, and they are definately not too tight - actually I tend to believe that they should be a number smaller, but I still tend to get numb feet? How can that be?
#bikefituesday rulz! Question to James. When I am doing a lot of climbing I tend to get pins and needles in my left foot. Was advised by a bike fitter that I had a tightness through the left side of lower back and that I should use a roller to try and ease it off before riding. This mostly isn't practical for me but is it likely this could be the cause?
Recently spend 45 minutes in our local bike shop with the owner trying on shoes. Budget was 'open' within reason due to having issues with previous shoes. Tried on around a dozen pairs, each time describing any issues I had; too narrow, heel uncomfortable etc. Each time I as presented with a different pair that were better in every respect, wider, lower heal.
Eventually, after a process of elimination of styles and brands I slipped on a pair of Mavics which felt just like slippers! (size 42 ⅔) - Best of all they were the previous years range and in the sale at £100!!!
Expertise of the shop owner is worth every penny you spend with them.
+Ian Moss boom!
I'm in the market for my first pair of cycling shoes, the question I would like to ask is, road shoes or MTB shoes? I'm told MTB shoes are easier to clip in and out and easier to walk in, I'm not racing, however I am riding lejog next year and want something comfortable that I can walk about in. I have never had clipless pedals always had trainers and flats. And this I what I can currently running with. I'm sorry!
Lewis Naunton I say stick with Road shoes if the majority of your riding is paved. LOOK makes little rubber slip covers to go over their cleats to help with walking and not wear out the cleat
I use those Look Cleat covers.
Wojciech Kisiel thanks for your input, I think I will go with the SPD's for commuting, and get some SPD-SLs for when I am riding a sportive or something like that, but I'm thinking for touring SPDs have to be the best option.
I f you are riding a road bike and are nit walking loads get road shoes. As lewis mentioned you can get cleat covers for when you need to get a coffee
Posted this on last weeks video, but after today's video it couldn't be anymore perfect. Question for Bike Fit James Just did a week long 7 day ride called RAGBRAI in the states, avg 50-70miles a day for a total of 450+ mi for the week. Anyways I was getting hotspots on my feet with at ball of my feet and my 3rd-5th toes would go numb and a week plus later toes are still numb, tingly. I currently wear specialized expert shoes with an orthotic insert that I loosened the shoe to help a bit. Any thing I can do to not get issues in my toes? I don't have wide feet per say, but like wide toe box. Sorry so long.
Great advice! Thank you.
Imo if you don't get good insoles that fit your feet you will not find the perfect shoe, lots of quality shoes like Lake will come with "standard" insoles that will not be optimum for your feet and you will dismiss the shoe fit on behalf of the not fitting insole.
So when shoe hunting it may be a good idea to take your fitting insoles with you and try them in the shoes.
I wish I lived over there cause near me nobody seems to know that much about shoes and fit. So I will ask for your help currently after about 20+ miles or so I start getting pain and numbness in my big toes. My current shoes are specialized experts with the green footbeds in them I did have the lower blue ones but felt I needed more arch support and it did help some. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated as everything else is pretty well sorted this is the only source of non effort related pain on the bike.
How can you talk about shoes without mentioning cleat float, could James do a bit on this subject (how much float is needed and why)
What does James think about sizing shoes to ARCH LENGTH, as measured from a Brannock? Thanks
I like s works really light and comfortable and look good
Any good giro shoes for a wider foot?
1:15 What size are those tires?
what sidi shoes size to buy??
James who are your bike fitting friends in dc/maryland/virginia area? I am looking for someone knowledgeable as you.
Thanks mate.
James is like Yoda of the bike fit and cycling shoe wold.
I want that jersey James is wearing.
Just ordered Mavic's...but they look nice :-)
Every time a shop tells me to 'up a size' as an answer for not having wides, i leave. Once laid out a total of 7000US thru course of couple mths to bring in almost 30 shoes to try and find something that could work decent for my super wide (midfoot not toe box like most manufs make wide ARGH!). Madness. -U10
which shoes you ended up with. after months of search , i am riade Lake cx 241 wide.
Lake cx175 wide (now discond and 176s no longer avail in 1/2 sizes wide - direct from lake prez). The carbon sole on other lake models where it curves up to meet the upper in the midfoot is what hurt like he-. So the cheaper frp shoe was the answer. I got 3pr on closeout so good for a while. Like to try northwave sonic 2 plus wide since outside is mesh but us import is rough and bikeinn screwed me once on some NWs i wanted to try so never again. Ride on. -U10
Do you have a powermeter or does your Wahoo Elemnt calculates your power?
he has a power meter crank
Now I just want waffles
#bikefittuesday
Great vlog..
within a minute of upload
Very interesting talk.