Victorinox SwissChamp ($95) vs. SwissChamp Fake ($6) / Should i buy the 15 times cheaper clone?
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- In this video i will compare the original Victorinox SwissChamp for $ 95 with a Chinese knockoff SwissChamp form the shopping plattform Wish for $ 6. At the end i will give you an answer if it is worth to buy the 15 times cheaper knochoff or not.
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This was sooo painful...sooo bad... I wouldn't give that knock off to my worst enemy
You are a man with a good heart! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What's worse is that by Victorinox lookalike standards it's actually pretty good, but was only made better than usual because they're normally sold as a actual counterfeits.
There's countless $1 generic "Swiss army style" knives out there that are much much worse and practically made of soup cans, they can get away with it because they never have to fool people.
It seems that a lot of the better or even decent Chinese knives and multitools tend to originate from unsupervised manufacturers who can only bother upping their quality to make passable counterfiets.
Ganzo , sanrenmu, Enlan, and kizer..etc all got started with counterfiets and most of the better cheap multitools stem from counterfeit Leatherman waves.
@@TylerSnyder305 Btw Kizer, the real Kizer knives, are really good. Got a few myself. They also harden the steel MUCH better than i.e. Civici.
@@CyberBeep_kenshi " real kizer " they are the ones who started off counterfeiting others, I'm not saying they're being counterfeited but I wouldn't know or care if they are though.
@@TylerSnyder305 i don't know. I just know current quality is very good
I was given a Champ by my kids, for 30th Birthday (as far as I can remember) - now at 71, this knife has followed me on 4wd adventures, fishing, working all over Australia, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Fiji and Tonga. I has carried out emergency repairs on numerous cars, electrical work on construction sites, delicate survey instrument repairs in the bush, gutting and skinning game animals while hunting etc, etc, etc.
Now, I still use it daily for the usual tasks and because of side affects from Cancer and Chemotherapy, simple paper and packet cutting. I have trouble even opening a chocolate wrapper (no strength or feeling in my fingers, so the knife is used to cut open everything).
My father always told me "you get what you pay for" - the Champ was very expensive at the time, but I suspect over 40 years constant use, it has worked out far more reliable and far cheaper than buying new "knock-offs" every few months.
Love your channel and really appreciate the effort you put in to all your videos. 😁☝
Now I am 73 years old and my VICRORINOX CHAMPION is from 1973 and even originally belonged to my father, who also used it every day!
You are the real Champ...👍🏼... Carry on & be always happy...❤...
The old saying “you get what you pay for” definitely applies here. I would much rather pay for the quality of the Victorinox knife.
Great video Felix!
Thanks a lot for your comment!
Yeah. The only reason that I'd use it, if I knew that any knife will be ruined during a tasks or over a specific time period. Also, it is good for light duty use, like grabbing things...but it broke, so I don't know.
If I'm being honest, I come here to hear you talk and absorb you're positive, cheerful way of educating us all. Love your channel!
Thank you Felix for this wonderful comparison! I always wanderd how those chinese products compare to the original ones and now we know why is it so cheap!😅
And you are the reason I bought an original Mountaneer among all of the other options (producers). I love it and thank you!! Keep up the good stuff!! Ciao!
Thank you so much for your comment!
I've never trusted knock-offs. Your video shows why. Thank you for this awesome heads-up video!
Thanks for your comment!
My first SAK was a cheap knock-off of the camper. The saw was not even a saw, it just had rounded teeth in a single row and the reamer just like the one you got. The blades were ok for light duty and the only thing that worked well was the scissors. The body ended up opening like yours did, but it did clip back in... merely. It was really designed as a pretend toy IMO.
I learned my lesson: If my life might depend on it, I buy the real stuff and pay the big bucks or wait for a genuine sale..
Thanks for your honest feedback!
Sounds like your “saw” was the fish descaler
@@1988dgs I think that's what it was... but it was so rounded I doubt it would even work for that.
Similar story here. My first was a knock-off (I realized looking back) of not-so-bad usability, but it eventually broke (I think it was the corkscrew). But it was fit as an introductory toy or something of the sort. After that my father gifted me a proper Climber, that I have until today, 28 years later.
The Comparison intro is awesome, it's like an 80s TV Cop Show.
Great video, we all know clones are for clowns!
Thanks a lot for this wonderful compliment!
Es verdad, toda mi familia trabaja en el circo y todos tenemos la imitación, estamos muy contentos y esperamos muy ansiosos una nueva multierramienta de la fabrica China. Saludos desde Lcdth.
Glad you did this because we’ve all been thinking out loud, how it really compares…😊 I was laughing with you.
Thank you very much!
Hi Felix: I enjoyed your comparison of the two knives. Years ago, at a “flea market” I bought a similar cheap clone of the “Champ”. The Chinese makers had even copied the SAK cross on the side. I bought it for $CDN10 even though the lady wanted $CDN25. Sales were slow I guess, but I would not have paid more to check out this piece of junk. It was pretty bad. The blades were dull. I was pretty apparent that the steel was cheap and the tools had little strength. I think if I had tried the corkscrew on a bottle of wine it might have snapped off. In your example the corkscrew bent. Anyway, with my curiosity satisfied I gave it to the child of a friend (with his blessing) knowing that the dull blades were probably only good for buttering toast. The other simple tools would have been fine for his needs. But the scissors sort of worked. Your description of it as a toy was perfect. The young fellow was very happy to have it. Ken
Hello Ken. Thanks a lot for this wonderful story!
NEVER trust to the Chinese quality, ALWAYS trust to the Swiss quality. This video is the solid proof for it. Thanks man.
Thanks for your feedback!
Those are very absolute statements…
I can see that wood saw snapping in half becoming quite the injury 😮
Thanks for showing us this one,, I've just ordered 3,, they look like an absolute bargain, can't wait for them to arrive,, 👍👍
A deal for the real one. I found one for $106.99 USD but it has free shipping. I gave Swiss Champs as graduation gifts to my nephews through the years.
Hello David. Thanks a lot for your interesting comment!
Ein sehr lustiges Video, vor allem bei der "Pinzette" hab ich herzhaft gelacht, vielen Dank dafür. Daumen hoch für den Vergleich, auch wenn ich das Kaufen von Klonen normalerweise nicht gutheißen kann, so war es hier ja für den guten Zweck um die Menschheit zu warnen. ;-)
Danke für deinen netten Kommentar!
Excelente revisión, muy detallada y objetiva, en este caso creo que la calidad está bien acorde al precio, al menos a mi entender yo no llevaría una herramienta de esa calidad para tareas de EDC pero igual es solo mi humilde opinión! Un saludo desde Argentina!🇦🇷 sos un genio Felix👏👏👏
Thank you for this video. Loved it. Have not laughed so much for a long time. The knockoff is useless and the your reactions were priceless. Thank you for your awesome videos. Huge fan. Love your sense of humour in addition to all the useful insights and tips.
I remember receiving a knockoff as a child. I thought it was way better than my grandpa's beat up old Victorinox knife as mine had scissors and a bunch of other useful tools. Fastforward 10 years, as my grandpa's knife was going strong and mine was basically unusable. I now have a Victorinox and have found they basically last forever :)
Thanks a lot for your interesting story!
"I don't have a rockwell tester, but i have a file"
That was epic 😂
😂😂😂
Hi Felix
I just bought a champ yesterday but mine is Victorinox lol
Love it like I do all my Victorinox
Also love watching your videos every Friday
Keep up the good work!
I bought a knock-off by mistake many years ago at an Army-Navy Surplus store (long before the internet). I didn't realize it wasn't Victorinox until after I got home and compared it to my authentic SAK. It looked just fine but performed like %&*#!!! I still keep it with my surplus gear as a constant reminder to never buy cheap gear again!
I really respect your thoroughness in all your videos. It inspires trust.
Vertrauenswürdigkeit.
herzlichen Dank!
As my old dad would say Felix " If its too good to be true then it isn't true " and you get what you pay for.
I carry a Victorinox "Huntsman" perfect for all my daily needs, never fails me. A screwdriver would be a nice addition tho"
Thanks a lot for your feedback!!
Then the Fieldmaster could be the perfect model for you. It has the same tools as the Huntsman, except for a Philips screwdriver instead of the corkscrew.
If you still need to open wine bottles, I believe Felix shows how to do it w/o the corkscrew in one of his older videos ;-)
@@cheesymogul Thanx for your reply. I actually use my corkscrew mainly for untying stubborn knots. Most of the wine I can afford has a screw cap, a Philips screw driver could be handy, but most of the screws I encounter are Robertsons, (square driven) the screwdriver I want is the one that fits into the corkscrew, an added nicety, I've been searching for one. I'm in Ontario, Canada,
@@TonyNicholls-gi9le i got the corkscrew screw driver separate as a replacement part, they can be found on line but your sak supplier may help you, im in uk
@@outlaweduk Thanx Mate, I'm originally from Wimbledon.
Dear Felix , You are the best Victorinox blogger on the Internet! Thank you so much for the great video ! 👍👍👍
Thank you so much for this wonderful compliment!
I received a Champ with the belt case from my company several years ago. My every day carry is a Huntsman, but if I out hiking, camping, or fishing, I also bring my Champ. The case Has a lot of good extras and is worth getting.
Felix, thanks for putting yourself through all the pain of having to go through that piece of scrap metal and plastic. I've got and had many "SAK" over the years. I never got that model, but I definitely knew the outcome would be that. Of the few counterfeit ones that I have been gifted with, I would not even put in my pocket for use. They have ended up in a junk drawer or in location for them to rust away.
Great video Felix! People need to know that Chinese bargains are not what they seem.
Greetings Felix. I hope the people who were thinking of buying the knockoff watched this excellent video. The tool market is polluted with this kind of trash. Dangerous and useless. Thank you for the post. BTW, the tweezers, very funny, sad, but funny.
Great comparison Felix! Another quality video. As others have said you get what you pay for.
I got a knock off of a classic SD and the quality was exactly like the one you tested, but surprisingly the nail file is very good for fingernails, very aggressive, so I basically payed almost 7$ for a nailfile!
You got scammed at 7 for a tiny nail file lol
Hi Felix🎉 This msg comes all the way from South India🙏🏼 Love the effort you have put into your videos📷 I am an SAK enthusiast and own a whole bunch🗡️ Hope everything is fine & pls keep up the good work❤
They also did some comparsion and tests in China too. But they started with the corkscrew. All the wine they got came with screwcaps and since they are very efficient, it was not allowed to go to waste. EVERYTHING worked out fine.
At least it looks like what was advertised. This can't be expected with Wish 🤣
Thanks for your funny comment!
Yah, those are the worst scammers. Especially watches. Or probably everything. Just crazy they are allowed to show ads.....
I purchased my Swiss Champ at a Victorinox shop in Switzerland about 30 years ago (I think it was in Basel) so 100% sure it is an original.
What people will go to to make a quick buck. Thanks for the comparison man. Been a silent viewer for ages and i just want to say I love your videos. So creative and bring me closer to my own (genuine!) Swiss Champ haha
One thing though man, do you think you should blur something in the beginning of the video? Internet safety and I don't think people should know that. However I'll leave it to your judgement, just pointing it out in case you didn't notice.
Keep doing what you're doing man =)
Thanks a lot for your hint!
Hey Felix! these are all wonderful videos, and for us Victorinox fans, this is really important and interesting. When will bushcraft come out? Harsh bushcraft, as we love! 🤘))) Thank you for your work.
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Thanks a lot for your super kind comment!!
Hallo Felix!Super Vergleich!Sehr unterhaltsam und lustig!Am Besten hat mir die Pinzette gefallen vom China Swiss Champ!Hab auch so ein Teil in meiner Victorinox Sammlung!Aber in noch schlechterer Qualität!Schönes Wochenende und viele Grüße!
Good video , danke. What made it funnier is your German accent I enjoyed watching you laugh man as we all went together through those painful moments like the saw breaking and the tweezers bending etc😂echt lustig
Great video Felix,
When it comes to Swiss Army Knives, there is no substitute for a Victorinox.
JT
Thanks a lot for your honest feedback!!
Old Wenger SAKs have similar quality to a Victorinox.
I've got the Swiss Champ (7 layers) and the XLT version (10 layers). The magnifying glass on the Swiss Champ is at the correct distance when the knife is laid down and something is put under it to magnify, but on the XLT that's 10mm thicker, the magnifying glass sits too high up to focus - it's certainly a design flaw and the magnifying glass should be at the distance where the hex tool is. The extra 10mm on the XLT only adds the spatula (useless), two more small blades (not needed) and the hex tools - which is the only reason I got the XLT, it has the hex tools! It's weird how much thicker it is when it only adds 4 more items. Even the back of the normal Swiss Champ has _every single thing_ the XLT has and the XLT doesn't add anything extra to the back.
I just know the Swiss Champ, sorry. But thanks a lot for your interesting feedback!
@@FelixImmler The one that seems to make most sense is the "Cybertool L" 🙂
Mm I think I did very well, I got my Vic Swisschamp with black scales for just £58 with free next day delivery! That comes out to just short of 65 Schwyzer Fronken, or 72 USD. But seriously it never crossed my mind to consider a knockoff of this or any other Vic model, I've seen vids of other knockoffs where the tools can be bent and broken off with a finger and thumb. I already had 9 SAKs before buying my Champ but still I'm very impressed with it! It is not at all too big for comfortable daily EDC, it fits snugly inside the 5th pocket of my jeans and I don't feel it at all as it doesn't move around or bump against me like that. It will last me forever, maybe I'll have to change the scales in a few years to keep it looking great. The crazy thing is that nowadays a Leatherman Squirt PS4 costs £50, so I paid just £8/$10/CHF 9,- more for my Champ which is 10 x better. Even the small pliers on the Champ are better than on the Squirt because when in use it fills the hand so you have more control and reach. Absolutely fantastic and I'd recommend it to anyone. Even if you pay more than I did it's still well worth it. Gruezi aus England.
Dear Felix thank you for your videos
Hallo Felix, vielen Dank für Dein interessantes und ehrliches Vergleichsvideo! Ich hatte mich auch von der Optik des chinesischen Messer-Nachbaus täuschen lassen und war wirklich kurz davor, mir auch so eine Kopie aus China zu bestellen!
JETZT bleibe ich bei meinem alten VICTORINOX CHAMPION aus 1973, das ist zwar nicht so umfangreich ausgestattet, wie das heutige SWISS CHAMP, aber es reicht mir auch, es ist zuverlässig und qualitativ gut. Deine Videos sind informativ und lustig und auch Dein SWISS ENGLISH ist sogar gut zu verstehen! Keep on rocking, Felix ich freue mich shcon auf deine neuen Videos!!!
I had such a laugh when you pulled out the tweezers - ha ha! But seriously, that knock-off could be a real safety hazard - you could injure your hand or fingers if a tool failed during use (like the saw did). You should now send it back for a warranty claim :-)
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
When the saw broke and the pliers bent as well as the corkscrew you didn't do a follow up with the victorinox , don't get me wrong, I wouldn't try to do something with my swiss champ that it wasn't supposed to do, but it wasn't exactly the same test. To be fair I wouldn't expect a 6 euro/franc etc to perform anywhere near as good as a 100 euro model, but as a first knife for a clumsy child who is probably going to lose it or a cheap friend who always gets you crap presents, it's perfect.😂 On the plus side the tooth pick probably works.
Well that was pretty funny. I enjoyed your expressions of disgust. Phooey indeed! I now appreciate my Champ even more.
Awesome knife (I will not comment on that silly copy) I had a Champ for years and made a really nice leather sheath for it. It unfortunately was stolen, when someone broke into my car. Now I carry the Tinker with the pliers.
this was actually really entertaining to watch lmao! great content!
Felix, I'd definitely get another Swiss Army knife rather than the cheaper version. ⚡👍⚡ Out of ALL the Swiss Army knives, which pocket style is your favorite?
There's video on the channel about it
What's the title, I wonder?
@@datnotme9921
th-cam.com/video/eUjdbdV3kh0/w-d-xo.html
Next step: Send the knock-off in for repair and compare the customer service. 😂
Bought a replica champ decades ago now, the tools were ok but it fell apart at the seams. You really do get what you pay for.
Thanks for your feedback!
As a Swiss guy I knew the result before looking! Only from looking at it you see it sucks from A to Z... swiss army knifes are just the best multipurpose knives you can get!!! Thank You Felix!
Thanks to you I ALWAYS keep my SAK sharp with the nail file
Fantastic...thank you!
You get what you pay for. At least the knockoff does not use the brand name and the price is reflective on the product itself.
Its those fake ones that copy 100% like the original SAKs with branding/packaging that are concern. Many thas for sharing your videos 👍
Yes thta's true!
hear me out on this one. I believe that if the pliers are any good at all on the knockoff, they might be a good standalone EDC kit tool to punch out of the knife and use separately. I would like to have a few pairs of knocked out pliers like that just for kits. I find the little SAK pliers are great for stronger tweezing tasks and I think I wouldn't mind having a mini plier of such little weight. I understand the comparison felix did here but I think fine usages would be better tested on that.
Frankly, it's not worth an injury or ill-performance in an emergency situation to have a cheap and poorly made EDC multi-tool... even a gutted one for separate parts that are of inferior quality. It is better to invest in a good quality SAK that has an excellent manufacturing history and has been a tried & true tool companion for the Swiss military, adventurers, campers, tradesmen, EMS workers, etc. There are many SAK options to choose from to fit use and budget.
Great video, Felix!
What you're looking for is the Knipex Cobra XS
I can get much better tool steel mini pliers for 3 USD.
Thanks for your post.
I bought a knock off swiss army knife from a well-known chinese website.
I only opened up the tools using an aid as i have soft very short nails,, 2 broke off.
🤣🤣 Thanks for your interesting comment!
I need a shirt with Felix dissapointment "aiy yai" so bad..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Dominic!
I bought my 2nd Swisschamp ca 28-30 years ago after I lost my 1st one in a train. It got some ‚battle scars‘ - the bottle opener is bent a bit from using it to pry open something; the scissors spring is bent and the toothpick is stuck… but hey its MY knife.
Danke Martin!
You can replace the spring relatively easily with pliers and a punch/something with a point
I had to do it recently for my champ's pliers
Or you could send it in for warranty service
Mein Vater hatte mir als Kind (und ich bin jetzt 70) immer gesagt, was was taugt, kostet auch was 🙂
Hallo Friedrich... ja, das ist wohl in den meisten Fällen so.
Hatte mir mein Meister in der Ausbildung auch gesagt. "Wenn ihr euch anständiges Werkzeug zulegt, habt ihr ein Leben lang etwas davon. Von dem billigen braucht ihr etliche und verletzt euch womöglich." Ich bleibe bei Vic! Und sooo teuer sind sie auch nicht. Sie sind ihr Geld wert.
@@colinexeter2262 Die waren wohl etwa ein Jahrgang - lach. Aber insbesondere heute kann man das wirklich sagen und nicht immer wieder neu kaufen was ja den Herstellern recht ist. Ich möchte mein Vic auch nicht mehr missen.
I never regretted the 60 euros (in terms of today's money) I spent on the Swiss champ 26 years ago, on the contrary I would regret the 6 euros of the Chinese fake knife,this doesn't even work as a toy...
Thanks for your feedback!
Oh dear me! It is embarrassing how bad it actually is. I have a couple of imitations but I'm sure they are not that bad. Maybe use the metal magnifying housing and put Victorinox lens into a custom SAK but although the money was badly spent on the knife it makes an entertaining video. Excellent as usual my friend
Felix, Good video. You get what you pay for!
Exactly!
Felix, I strongly think you were way to hard on that Chinese knock off. I believe it should of been used for what I think it was made for, and that is a display piece only. LOL Another great comparison.
Hallo Felix sehr interessantes Video, das Faketorinox hat sich genau so verhalten wie ich mir ein Faketorinox vorgestellt hatte. 😂 Ich war sogar überrascht, dass der Dosenöffner nicht an der Dose abgebrochen oder vorbogen wurde. (Wahrscheinlich ist das Dosenblech qualitativ hochwertiger als das Messer) Victorinox Preise find ich vollkommen gerechtfertigt und das fake Messer schlimmer als nutzlos, wegen Verletzungsgefahr. Da kauft man sich besser für das Geld ein altes gebrauchtes Victorinox Messer mit Werbeaufdruck auf Ricardo oder Ebay. Ansonsten lässt der Victorinox factory store in Ibach grüssen.
Ja, deinen Kommentar würde ich unterschreiben..
Happy Friday Maestro Felix, I had a good time laughing at this video of Chinese made junk!
I also own both of these. My original SAK Champ is an older model, with a gray plastic magnifier frame. Also one of the rare ones that passed quality control with a defect, the metal file was mistakenly polished shiny. The scissors on the fake do work great, that's the only plus point. The rivets aren't good so when pulling out the big blade, the smaller blade is somewhat deflected so it gets caught in the path of the big one when closing it back. My fake one had tweezers more horribly bent straight out of the box; also had to file the phillips screwdriver because the flutes were too shallow.
BTW, I also own the Wenger champ. That's a better head to head comparison.
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
Well we all kind of knew how that was going to go😂 still a great video!
Thank you very much!!
O lado positivo dos produtos chineses é que eles sao excelentes para mostrar o que não deve ser feito.
Parabéns pelo vídeo!!
If you had a couple of papers on your desk, and there was a slight draft, perhaps the Knock off would make a half decent paper weight.....maybe
Haa ha haa, you are right! 🤣
Felix I learned valuable lesson knock off was same issue as for genuine article was too big pulled trousers down I had alot of tools I didn't use so I buy genuine article and 2 layer knife only I get to use all tools on thinner knife 🇨🇭👍🇬🇧🐾🦊
Thanks a lot for your comment!
when you took the file to test the rockwell hardness i almost passed out lol
The question I am approaching this with at 4:04 is “would this knock-off suffice as a single extended use tool? Something that could be placed into an old steel Bandaid box survival kit, a small zipper pouch or more modern French mess tin size PSK?” Those who are preparedness minded but a few steps removed from obsessive may find value in an under $15 USD tool that can be placed, forgotten and yet will answer the call for numerous survival applications in a 2-4 day incident? Getting stranded in a dysfunctional car. Getting lost on what was planned as a day hike. Capsizing a canoe 20 miles into the bush and having to trek out. We shall see….
Yes you are 100% right!
That knockoff though….🤢🤮
VICTORINOX for the WIN!!!
Thank you for an honest and great comparison Felix!
If it’s too good to be true- it isn’t true.
Thanks a lot for watching!
Uff, ich bin erschüttert. Die Pinzette war der Oberknaller🤪😵🥴🤮
Leider keinen Cent wert. Danke, dass du dir das für uns angetan hast und wir das sehen konnten😉👍
Sehr gerne und liebe Grüsse
That "Ach Gott !" At 15:09 came from the heart 😂
This video reminds me of an old fake SAK testing video of a guy breaking every tool of the clown with bare hand.
Here’s the video for anyone who wants to laugh a bit
th-cam.com/video/qQhwIwxvEW0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks a lot for this funny link!
i laughed my ass off :))
The Chinese also produce a copy of the Victorinox Rescue Tool. I wouldn't buy a pair of nail clippers from China, let alone a rescue knife. Low quality knives are a waste of money.
Thanks for your feedback
Indeed a good way of demonstrating why a knock off is a knock off! May I suggest you to buy 'soft grips' for your vice? That way you can clamp the item properly without damaging it. In case of the Chinese knock off it doesn't matter though ;-)
I know you were joking about it being a toy, but it would make a horrible toy because with all its instabilities, it still has edges that can cut and points that can pierce, and that makes it even more dangerous for a child than the real thing.😱
You are absolutley right!
Jetzt ist dein Messer ja 10 Jahre alt und du hast es bestimmt schon mal geschärft. Mein Victorinox Messer war aus der Verpackung raus auch nicht so scharf.
Die Frage wäre, wie sieht es aus wenn man dieses billigteil geschärft hätte? Insgesamt ist mir klar dass es dem victorinox nicht das Wasser reichen kann.
Prima Video, wie alle von dir.
Excellent video. You provided much good information about the Victorinox quality.
0:26, oops 15 times less, cannot be mathematically computed. Any number times another number, other than one or zero, will always produce a larger sum never less. Thus, properly stated the Victorinox is 16 times more expensive would make mathematical sense. Or, one could properly say the fake SwissChamp is 1/6th the cost of the real Victorinox.
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
Ich musste mehrmals laut Lachen! 😆 Super Video mein Freund Felix! Das war mega lustig! Die Billigkopie ist übelst mies und es zeigt einmal mehr, dass eine billige Kopie eines Qualitätsprodukts nur Schrott ist. Ich habe auf Aliexpress einen mini Leatherman gekauft, eine Dummheit von mir. 🙈Ich brach mir den Fingernagel ab beim Versuch die Klinge herauszuziehen. Sowas verschenkt man in der Schweiz nicht mal als Werbegeschenk. 🤪 Bis bald wieder! 👍
👋🔥✌️Hello, Felix. Very good 👍👍👍!
Thank you!
Hallo Felix, sehr interessant, aber auch nicht unerwartet deine Ergebnisse von diesem "Victorinox-Nachbau".
Obwohl ich auch schon ähnliche Messer in einer ähnlichen Preisklasse gefunden hatte, die zumindest einigermaßen brauchbar waren. An ein Swiss Army Knife kamen die aber nie heran.
Victorinox ist Qualität und das seit vielen Jahrzehnten. Mein liebstes Victorinox ist schon über 40 Jahre alt und immer noch top!👍
Allerdings ist der Begriff "Qualität" so definiert: "Qualität ist die Erfüllung der Erwartungen". Wenn jemand also damit zufrieden ist, dann ist es für ihn eine gute (ausreichende) Qualität. Zumindest in Bezug zum Preis-Leistungsverhältnis.
Für mich als Qualitätsprüfer hat somit auch dieses Messer seine Berechtigung, wenn die Erwartungen (verlangten Vorgaben) damit befriedigt werden.
Für mich persönlich ist es allerdings eine Verschwendung von Ressourcen. 😉😄
Ich bleibe lieber beim Original!👍
Liebe Grüße und ein schönes Wochenende aus Oberösterreich!
Hallo Willi. Danke für deinen interessanten Kommentar!
It would be depressing to work at a factory producing stuff that doesn't work and isn't even designed by people who want it to work.
Love it how you forget to talk english whenever shocked by the chinese hightech-tool! Danke Felix
good, thorough review
Thank you very much!
"Now the magnifying glasses: The transparent one is the Victorinox."
That was too funny. Didn´t see that coming. Even for a bad knock off that´s a WTF!
There is only one (swiss)champ.
Thanks Felix, great video as always. 👏🏻👍🏻
"You better buy toilet paper for 6 box" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 i laughed my tears out hahahahahhaha
Thanks for your funny comment!
@@FelixImmler and thank you a lot for the videos 🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻 you're the best
So in short..
Don't waste your time, money or sanity on a knock off. Get the Victorinox.
My only Victorinox is the Huntsman. I use my Huntsman a lot but wish it had more to it.
I would love to have a Champ or Champ XXL but the cost is not feasible for me. I was lucky to get the Huntsman for $28 on sale. I only have cheap knives because of the cost. Being disabled and on SSI income puts great quality knives out of my price range.
I like the huntsman too!
Thanks for the great review(s)!!
Thanks for watching!
A good option for more affordable purchasing is to search for used tools.
I don't feel safe with those replicas, and it is more dangerous for people who don't have knife skills, such as children (even if in boy scout groups).
i 100% agree!
Hallo Felix,
da hast du ja eine üble Ausführung erwischt.
Obwohl ich absoluter Victorinox-Fan und Nutzer bin, habe ich mir im Laufe der Jahre, angefangen ca. 2002 bis 2019 immer wieder mal so eine Imitation gekauft und das auch von verschiedenen Herstellern.
Ich bin STRIKT GEGEN IDEENKLAU und wollte einfach mal sehen, ob man auch Top-Qualität und Handwerkskunst auch klauen kann.
Fazit:
Einige der Modelle wurden im Laufe der Zeit tatsächlich bezüglich des Materials deutlich besser und auch in der Ausführung der Werkzeuge. Manche jedoch mehr, als andere.
Nach all den Jahren muss ich ganz klar sagen, dass keines der Messer so erstklassig verarbeitet und hochwertig war, wie ein Vic.
Aber: Gegen Ende des Zeitraums waren tatsächlich brauchbare Taschenmesser dabei, die bei deinem oder einem ähnlichen Test besser abgeschnitten hätten. Jedoch muss ich auch sagen, dass der Preis der etwas besseren Messer auch höher war. Das beste kostete je nach Anbieter zwischen 21,90 und 24,90 €, statt der ganz billigen von 4,90 - 7,90 €. Dennoch würde ich keines meiner Vic gegen eines der besseren Modelle tauschen, doch für Arbeiten im mittleren Anspruchssegment würde das beste mir bekannte und dem Swiss Champ nachempfundene China-Multitool zumindest ordentliche Arbeit leisten.
Somit ist klar: Auch in China wird bessere Qualität teurer und ich denke, dass in ein paar Jahren von einigen wenigen Herstellern richtig gute Messer zu erwarten sind. Dann jedoch auch zu bestimmt so hohen Preisen, dass man keinen Grund mehr hat, Vic nicht zu unterstützen.
That's nice!
After all you got a lot of fun for less than 10 Bucks! 😅😂
Thanks a lot for your positive comment!
Even in China the quality of an item is related to its price. For simple mechanical items like Swiss Army knives the best Chinese products are comfortable, less expensive than Western equivalents but not 95% less expensive, because the materials are more than 10% of the cost.
Thanks a lot for your interesting comment!
I was given a knock of sak when as I was a boy and it left me with the impression that all sak’s we’re junk, 30 odd years later i bought a Victorinox and realised how much i’ve been missing out.
I've bought a SAK from Lidl which "Made from German Steel" After I used it, I understood why the buyer was so discouraged to use it in the description that the only thing missed from the package that "This is only for decoretation purposes" Nonetheless, limitedly but a few tools works on it, (and I really mean few) but its good when you do something which you wouldn't hurt your other tools on)
I used to carry a Leatherman Surge and the bits kit, and I did so from when I got it until I was injured at work and wasn't able to take the weight of the tools on my belt without suffering and I was sad that I was now denied the ability to carry a multi tool, along with the other things that you loose with a back injury, (hiking and fishing and hunting and airsoft and HEMA and being able to sit down on the couch and play video games for longer than twenty minutes.) So one day I was at the hardware store with a coupon for 50% off one item and then I saw it, the Swiss Champ it fairly sparked in the dust covered case at the back of the store reflecting the Florence lights and the ray of sunshine that crept in through the lone sky light. It was purchased along with a nylon sheath and a Zippo lighter case and I have been carrying it everywhere ever since. It's not as durable as the Leatherman in my opinion and I can't change the saw and bits and file, but it's a good tool for the weight and I don't have any difficulty carrying it all day.
You treated Victorinox very gently. Were you afraid you would break your pliers and Vick's flathead screwdriver?
Thanks for your comment