Pat Tillman was murdered. Three tight shots to the forehead; field doctors called it a murder; special snipers, outside Pat's unit, were attached for this mission; there was NOT ONE bullet-hole found in convoy vehicles or occupants (i.e. there was NO ambush); all Pat's gear, including personal diary, were destroyed. The list of damning facts goes on and on. Pat was seen as a propaganda asset at his enlistment, and then see as a liability when he made his feelings about the criminality of the war known. The Administration then decided to "cash-out" on its investment and turn him into a War Hero/Martyr. As commented below, the facts show Pat was killed by close up (150 ft. or less), well-aimed rifle fire. This guy states that of the 2 people killed in the "engagement," "one was an Afghan soldier." So is he claiming that Pat Tillman and the Afghan soldier were shooting at HIM?!?!?!?!? Remember, NO bullet holes in any US vehicles. Additionally, there an eye-witness, Sgt. Bryan O'Neal, who puts the lie to all of this. This guy is lying.
@@mt_gox You're just a troll who is ignoring the fact that the Taliban government in Afghanistan were sheltering Al-Qaida and bin Laden and Zawahiri, who planned the 911 terrorist attacks. The terrorists needed to be removed. A forever occupation of Afghanistan was never going to work. Keeping 20,000-30,000 American troops in Afghanistan to do nation building with a society that lives in the Middle Ages just so little girls there could go to school was always a stupid idea - the US does not have enough money to do that. Keeping an intelligence surveillance of the terrorist activity there, and Hellfire Ginzu knifing the terrorists that return to Afghanistan is by far the better way to go. Even before 911, US intelligence knew about bin Laden and his terrorist training camps in Afghanistan - but nothing was done by both Clinton and Bush.
@@gandalfgreyhame3425 The only certain FACT about 9/11 is that the official story is suspicious, at best. Bush "foretelling" before 2001 that "his country is going to need him, that something terrible will happen", that he is "gonna have to do it", jumbo jets flying for up to 50 minutes in the U.S. airspace unchecked, a few alleged hijackers still alive, WTC 1 and 2 falling perfectly as if they were rigged and demolished with thermite charges, WTC 7 falling perfectly in its footprint even though it wasn't hit directly nor was the fire spread evenly throughout, and many more details. Don't forget the Israeli guys arrested for dancing and celebrating while the buildings were burning. Only those who planned and executed the 9/11 false flag operation know all the details of how they did it and who was really involved.
@@gandalfgreyhame3425 And before calling someone a troll, you should at least check the official stories from multiple sources which state exactly what this guy mentioned here, including Pat Tillman's destroyed documents.
Because Pat wanted to talk to ppl about atrocities....so they killed him...I'm guessing Tillman didn't want to seem like a turncoat and wait to speak out until he came home. He was outspoken during his stint....it cost him his life
If that's true he should be getting a thrashing. They popped smoke, flares, and were only 50 meters away close enough to hear them screaming. He was either trigger happy or he wanted to murder him.
Looks so young now in'23, so he must have been 19 in 2004. ...Video- game warrior soft cocks that volunteered then effed up. Australian and New Zealand,Brit coalition returnees said the average yank was a whiny crybaby, bitchin about HaagenDaaz and burgers running out. NATO soldiers said they were more afraid of dying by the yanks than the insurgents. Hoo boy, now JCS Gen.Milley and Sec.Def. Austin will defend US overseas interests with ' politically correctness'.
I don't even think he did it, I think he was paid to front it, but the fact that he laughed let alone smiles makes Me sick. first time that has ever happened to me. Genuinely sickening, all involved. I cry when I think I hope hell is real so there will be justice in this world then realise. ..there isn't, there will not be.
His story doesn't add up, especially when you consider all the circumstances. He "believes" he may have shot Pat!? Yet the authopsy report shows Pat must have been shot from no more than 10 meters away, which would mean there should be no doubt in the mind of whoever shot him. This is all BS. He must have been paid to tell this story, to cover up for what really happened, and put a softer spin on it.
You're stuck in an endless loop of fantasizing about hell followed by actually crying because you believe that there isn't one? You okay? Or do you think that you are being introspective and deep or something my guy?
He was patriotic in the sense that he wanted to speak out and tell the American people how the government lied them into Iraq. He was killed for his efforts.
So how did he end up with 3 close holes in the back his head, then all his possessions burnt, the covered up for a decade, this is bullshit and this guy knows it
If you read Jon Krakauer's book, you'll walk away thinking there is absolutely no certainty he killed Pat. There are numerous discrepancies surrounding Pat's death still to this day, and while Krakauer concludes Pat was _probably_ killed in a similar way this guy talks about, there are legitimate concerns it didn't go down like this at all, and Pat was shot from much closer range. There's a real likelihood more was covered up than what the Army led on. There's even a chance this guy was set up to be a fall guy, a patsy even, and he may or may not even know it. Read the book, do you own research, search everything you can find, not just that book, or Wikipedia, or fringe stuff. Then come back and try to post that you are certain this guy is telling the truth; you won't be able to.
Krakauer's book is incorrect to assume he was killed "from much closer." He was killed as every eyewitness says he was killed. There is no need to create ANOTHER conspiracy around this. No one could have known Tillman was going to be there because he requested to be run up the hill himself.
You said he may have been set up and may not even know it. So he could be telling the truth as he believes it to be. So he’s not necessarily lying even if what he believes and what he’s saying isn’t the “truth”.
You're forgetting some stuff from Jon Krakauer's book that specifically states the falsehood of Pat Tillman being shot up close started from a doctor thinking the tight cluster of shots were shot from an m4 when in reality it was a SAW and that can be done from much further away. Also the SAW gunner and the squad leader each testified to having shot at the respective friendlies, Tillman and the AMF soldier
I watched The Pat Tillman documentary last night. I’m British. My grandfather fought in both world wars, and was in the Royal Navy his whole working life. There was a motto or saying, that the army guys, (my dad was in the army) it was: “Don’t get in front of the yanks.’ What it meant was, they were more likely to become excitable and shoot at anything that moved. And in the Second World War, where a lot of the US army were conscripts and not trained properly, just farm boys and city boys, given a gun and sent to a different country, many of them killed British troops. Friendly Fire is the oxymoron applied to it. The day that Tillman died everyone was jumpy. Their humvee had broken down. They knew some mujhuradin might be watching and signaling back to their enemies. If only they had stuck together as a convoy without the gap. Mr and Mrs Tillman and Mrs Tillman (the wife) lost a wonderful human being that day. And so did the world. I admire Mr Tillmans composure and self control. I bet he wanted to slap the snot out of those lying top brass fraudsters, who denied him the truth about his son’s needless death.
@Jake Smith giving up a $9,000,000 NFL contract to join the fucking army…as ENLISTED (Officers need college degrees, he HAD that but joined to roll around in the fucking dirt!) with NO draft…he NEVER NEEDED TO DIE IN THE DIRT for ANYONE…😡🤬
@@KellyfromMemphisDD214 All for family legacy. A real shame, he seemed like a good person who thought they were doing something great. That’s one of the many realities of being an Infantryman.
I agree, if he were being genuine , he would have come out and took responsibility when it happened. Suddenly he needs to tell the world that, if he didn’t want the attention he would have wrote a letter. I feel ur frustration and I completely agree with you
If this is true, sometimes people can't handle a guilty conscience for something as awful as what happened. Sometimes people just need to speak the truth to feel better about themselves and everyone in the situation.
The man has been living with the possible accidental death of a brother. Try living with that and not talking about it. And what he means by he did it is that he is speaking for his fire team not himself specifically.
Its sickening. Where is the communication? Where is the fucking radio communication. Pat Tillman 's team got engaged more than once in this incident. One from around 300 meters and then the humvee moved closer, dismounted and continued to fire. the rangers on the ground didnt bother positively identifying if they were friend or foe. they just wanted to be in a firefight. Pat's team did not return fire once. It was a deliberate attack on his position.
Is it actually hard to see? You have a guy claiming he shot and killed Pat by accident.. He likely did.. I don't bite on consipiracy theory BS.. Tillman was NOT someone so well known he would have been a great propaganda prop... No way... NO, this guy, if he did actually KIA Tillman... Well, listening to this tripe.. How the EFFF was this guy a "Ranger"??? AND, why is he talking about his private convos with Pat's Mom? I wasn't there, but I "feel like", there were a bunch of rank AMATEURS running around, maybe with Ranger tabs and all... FYI.. Anyone who has actually killed someone, and has been haunted by long nights over battles and what goes down in the sh!t.. Seek counseling... Talking about killing Pat online, and talking about your coming into comms with Pat's Mom... This guy is a PATHETIC attention seeker in my eyes.. Make amends with accidentally killing someone in your unit, or even on our team / side, online??? Some things I consider sacred... Sharing them with anyone online would be the last thing I would do..
Okay so SAY you are the person that killed a fellow soldier...would YOU go on anything and describe it? Not saying this is all a conspiracy....but...probably.
@@ShockwaveZero I'm not saying I agree, but if you read Krakauer's book, and other objective info, this is a possibility. Krakauer looked into it as much as anyone, even visiting where Pat was killed and talking with local Afghanis. Even he admits there's holes in every theory, with more information still out there, very likely being withheld.
@@ShockwaveZero lol has nothing to do with him turning down an a contract. He spoke out against the military action being taken and was killed by friendly fire that was covered up. The man was killed for disagreeing with the government. Don’t disrespect his memory by equating his death to a bad contract negotiation.
How was he not dishonorably discharged for murdering fellow rangers in the military disgusting he should have been sued by the Tillman family for murder!
You can tell he is lying. This seems rehearsed...they knew he died by friendly fire within 24 hours but it took like 1 year for the truth to come out only cause his mom pushed for it and the full truth still hasn't come out.
If you’ve never been in the military than you have no idea the horrible position these soldiers are put in by their superiors and even the leaders in Washington. As a civilian you can say and do whatever you want but that’s just not possible all the time as an enlisted member of our armed forces. If you’ve never been in a fire fight, in the dark, in enemy territory you don’t have the right to judge this man.
He didn't kill Pat by accident. He's a plant to further the friendly fire lie. Pat was intentionally killed because he was outspoken about that joke of a war he was in. I'm an AZ native and not gonna name drop who I know or who told me what because it doesn't benefit me, but, that's the word around. Take it for what you will, or leave it....
You’re giving the us government way too much credit. What makes people think the clumsy U.S. government can pull off such crazy covert conspiracy coverups. This is a country that couldn’t conduct the 2000 election properly or get a bottle of water to New Orleans in 2005 after hurricane katrina. They split off when the humvee broke down, they heard gunfire nearby and got confused and spooked, it’s called the fog of war. The guy saw the afghani soldier with Pat and thought he was the enemy. Unfortunately Pat got dragged into the wrong war. He wanted to be in the justified battle to destroy the Taliban who harbored al qaeda who did 9/11, but by the time pat was done with training he had to go to Iraq and then got sent to Afghanistan to go after insurgents and fallout from the Taliban being overthrown. It’s a shame he couldn’t have been a part of the team that hunted down bin Laden eventually, because that’s what he really wanted to do. He wanted to protect our country by getting rid of the scum that perpetuated 9/11.
You would be shocked with the amount of people that got away with child porn/assualt, murder, rape and horrendous things during these tours. Imagine the ones under the rug. I have read a lot of self accounts on reddit.
a soldier in the crew in the Canyon, the first car in the row took off and was shooting at everything, and that it was the guy on the truck mounted gun, who TURNED AROUND to shoot and hit Tillman.. he said they knew immediately.
What a horrible lead-in by the "host". Don't tell me or him how we "feel", let the story, whatever it is, unfold naturally AND then see if the facts match the story. I will NOT be emotionally manipulated by anyone for any reason. The ONLY thing that matters is the truth.
@@mamster233 She set the tone by emotionally manipulating the front end of the story. In lawyer speak this would be called leading the witness in order to influence or poison a jury's view. In "journalism/talk shows" it's called gaslighting, she's looking to control the public court of opinion with her personal bias. On such a sensitive subject the last thing she should ever be doing is framing the scene, it's unprofessional.
THIS GUY IS A LOOK AT ME DUDE at best As Mrtriffid said: Pat Tillman was murdered. Three tight shots to the forehead; field doctors called it a murder; special snipers, outside Pat's unit, were attached for this mission; there was NOT ONE bullet-hole found in convoy vehicles or occupants (i.e. there was NO ambush); all Pat's gear, including personal diary, were destroyed. The list of damning facts goes on and on. Pat was seen as a propaganda asset at his enlistment, and then see as a liability when he made his feelings about the criminality of the war known. The Administration then decided to "cash-out" on its investment and turn him into a War Hero/Martyr. As commented below, the facts show Pat was killed by close up (150 ft. or less), well-aimed rifle fire. This guy states that of the 2 people killed in the "engagement," "one was an Afghan soldier." So is he claiming that Pat Tillman and the Afghan soldier were shooting at HIM?!?!?!?!? Remember, NO bullet holes in any US vehicles. Additionally, there an eye-witness, Sgt. Bryan O'Neal, who puts the lie to all of this. This guy is lying.
According to men who served with him, he was a complete a$$. Not saying that he should’ve been killed. Whoever was responsible needs to be held accountable! Top down. But the whole he’s all that because he left football to join the military is ridiculous. He’s no different from a kid from a trailer park who joined the military.
Agree this culture is a sociomanic nightmare. But when Tom Cruise's character went to visit the widow of the guy HE SHOT by accident, it was for closure :the truth ( closure for them ) These things in life you don t get medals for, the truth is one of them ( unless the alarm is sounded first, everyone sees it, then someone happens to catch a remarkable, brave, unprecedented, unparalleled act of contrivance on camera ) you see good people didn't t start springing up everywhere until the millennium and smartphones. We ve been growing into greatness ever sinc3.
Part of NWO is extreme dumbing-down, to the point of making the sheeple walking brain-dead. "There will be in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak....Producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people, will in fact, have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel, by PROPAGANDA, or BRAINWASHING, enhanced by pharmacological methods.....And this seems to be the final revolution." Aldous Huxley (authored the "fictional" novel of totalitarian rule society) March 1962. "I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers live and die in the belief that they have known something of what has been passing in the world.....I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson, 1807. "World events do not occur by accident, they are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues, or commerce; and those who hold the purse strings state and manage most of them." - Denis Healey, former British Secretary of State for Defense. "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you committ atrocities." - Voltaire
Wait. His immediate superior was firing rounds identified in the rock behind Tillman - but this subordinate, knows for sure it’s *his own round* that killed Tillman? That barely makes logistical sense since to ‘get behind’ implies ‘by passing by, or through’ whatever was in front - unless this commander was deliberately shooting solely at the rock - even then though, the soldier *with* Tillman said there was “no cover” in their position, and that the friendly’s moved to a better firing position - shouldn’t Tillman have been behind any rocks?? *My* turret gunner - meaning he was the driver, was firing a ‘particular type of round’ found in the rocks *behind* Tillman so it became obvious that BS BS BS crock of shit fantasy needed implementing in order to make it believable to everyone without a brain……. ……and shortly after that, we left the surface of Saturn to go and get donuts. I’m glad he remembers it all with a chuckle and a big ‘old American smile though - that’s an extremely respectful and fitting way to recall all those hilarious Blue on Blue incidents, especially when you neutralise a PR Golden Boy and make a martyr out of him. Wait - that didn’t happen though?? Wow, it’s way above my 52yr old ex British REME veteran nugget. Thankfully not of this embarrassing campaign.
Also the calibre of the US soldiers and command structures. Multiple times NATO combatants said their biggest worry was not the Talis but being shot by nervous, trigger happy rookie grunts, Afghans had just got rid of the Soviets, Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi, his family did business with Bush's. If he took refuge in London, would US bomb the shite out of it? For petes sake the US was arming the Mujahidin/ Taliban for years during Soviet occupation.( see ' Charlie Wilson's War').imo dimwit Dubya was manipulated by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeldt. ....just like geriatric Biden is on the Ukraine war. Donald Trump had/has the best take on this. What did GW 2 achieve? 1.3 million deaths, most of them women and children, 6000 US deaths, 275,000 maimed, and a lot of PTSD, 2.6. TRILLION cost. Now imagine the surviving relatives of the 1.3 mill.dead seeking justice/ revenge, Bush recently "dodged a bullet" by an Iraqi assassin.
This guy is trying get his 15 mins of fame. HE MAY OR MAY NOT of done it. However rhe fact is Tillman came into the army with a HUGE ego. Soldiers who were there have said he acted like he his shit didnt smell. It was friendly fire or manslaughter. Either way some of the soldiers on his unit could not stand him. Here you have a guy who was supposed be in the NFL who leaves to join up. For alot of these soldiers who were lifers in the military that pissed them off. That this guy can come in do one tour and leave and go back to make millions while they are stuck. They hated the fact Tillman was going serve and leave . His atitude was not humblings and ordering guys around. When your a new soldier you gotta be humble however its just not possible usually when your going fronm the NFL to the army. Every war needs its propaganda... This guy waited until the war is over to come out DECADES after pat is dead...
Accidentally death is manslaughter, he was murdered no question about it. They gave him 3 to the brain to be sure. 1 bullet could be friendly fire unless it was from a full auto which it wasn't. They say he had powder burns meaning point blank shots unless Stevie wonder was in his group I call bullshit.
This coward didn't come forward with this info until the truth was investigated. He's a psychopath that's why he is doing these interviews. He's proud of it.
Bad things happen in the heat of war... Battles.. NAME IT.. "Help me understand" why you felt the need (Steven Elliot) to go on a speaking tour for this??? I felt really sorry for the previously (right after Pat was killed by friendly fire) soldier who mistakenly pulled the trigger, or a group thereof soldiers.. . Again, most people don't understand the pressure of a firefight.. That being said.. Yo', Elliot.. You killed a guy most loved.. He wasn't a hero.. I have all the love in the world but I DO NOT believe soldiers are heroes UNLESS they do something heroic.. I also don't generally blame soldiers or even units who fk up under pressure.. WTF are YOU standing up and talking about it everywhere? Is that cathartic for YOU??? Had I shot someone on my own team, I would want to die.. I would do my best to make it up to the family / families as much as possible.. YOU "sir" are just SLURPING up this... Nobody really gives a single sheot that you were the man to 'accidentally' kill Pat Tillman.. I will say you sucked as a Ranger.. Commos weren't that bad back then even.. Don't EVER bask in the Sunlight Pat Tillman shown.. Had I accidently killed any of my fellow troopers.. You wouldn't find me on camera all over the internet.. Nobody gets redemption for running around claiming that you killed one of your own.. THAT is only attention seeking.. PUKE...
Wow what better person than this guy to receive the Pat Tillman Award! 2024 and now more attention bought to the military! Make it make sense to give it to Princely Harry! Disgraceful interview!
Pat Tillman was hit three times in the head, most likely from a M16 at a distance of only "less than 10yards (9.1m) away"! Pat's part of the split platoon had been singling by several ways to ensure those nearby knew they were 'friendlies'. How is it possible that no-one from the other split platoon never visualised nor heard any radio communications from Pat's platoon? How can it be possible at this distance to not recognise the uniform as being from their own platoon? Far too many questions and still not enough answers. As for this guy, I couldn't care less. Who goes on telly boasting about killing one of his own brothers in arms?🇦🇺
There is no visual aids like maps or drawings to give a good view of what happened. I hear that U.S. forces initially used a .50 and those rounds landed very near Tillman. In fact it was also said that some of those rounds hit a soldier from Afghanistan and that he was very near Tillman and that Tillman saw it happen. I read that there was animosity between Tillman and anothert soldier of equal rank. The U.S. had problems and some soldiers confronted Rumsfeld about lack of proper equipment.
there is more to this story. massive cover up going on. Even Pat's brother said the person that killed him saw Pat waving his hands to stop firing. this interview sickens me
50m away. What a story the govt gives us and we eat it up. I've know many many men who have served. They've told me unspeakable acts that have happened. Maybe Pat was silenced...
This is the story I have heard from my time in B Co, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. Pat Tillman was killed from his platoon because of his pompous and arrogant attitude.
Makes sense. Then, being Football legend, built like ' Big Moose' after following Chomsky, he keeps fighting and killing ' enemies' he says are the good guys. Still, I don't believe higherups ordered his killing, just plain old incompetence achieved his death. The lying US propagandists get a pass too.
Maybe he was smart enough to realize that Isreali Mossad was behind 9/11 and not a bunch or farmers in Afghanistan wearing flip flops. Fukin how dumb can Americans be
So, why was Pat Tillman’s body found w 3 bullets to the head? Why was his body burnt, including a chunk of his brain? Even his notebook found nearby, that he always carried, that was also burnt. It was either friendly fire or a hit. You see popular Pat didn’t agree with what was happening in Iraq and was vocal about it. He also kept writing letters home n in his journal. Then he was transferred to Afghanistan. Why the cover up n lies if it was the fog of war? Very odd. Tragedy 🎭
Why bother if you are not sure. What’s the point. PT died a hero and he is more of a hero to me because of the person he was/is and how he lived his life.
Intersting considering tillman's wounds were consistent from being shot from a .223 from a distance less than 10 yards. Do you have a confession to male my son
Tillman was a person of the social structure of a representation of a goody guy of traditional american values of what he wanted people to see in him of the open public s perspective of Society s Icons. There were people on the same level that didnt like how he would over look his piers when he felt his actions need to be addressed of overall perspectives of the open public. From school to Football he had many that viewed him as an overkill of the public persona of being an Icon. I really believe this extended in his Service for US and with people of ego trips, the Military has them all. His death was likely committed out of the" I get you back you jerk or the daddy s favorite son antics" from members of his Unit as the shots fired was to intentionally say F you out of excuse of not knowing friendly in area. We all know these situations of the childish demeanor many of US had to grow out of due to not growing up as we get to be Adults, as in this case a few guys in Tillman s Unit knows what Im talking about and the guilt of not admitting the death came out of a childish antic of jealousy and envy. R.I.P. Pat Tillman, may your life serve as lessons in life to admire and endure.
Just say, those bullets fired around him was to be intentionally missed and be laughing about and the 2nd time around, Tillman just so happen to pop his head out a bit too soon and the joke just got out of hand where it was not needed in Military..
Russia invaded Afghanistan as well. The US also invaded looking for Osama-kilt-by-Obama. Biden was right to end the war Afghanistan. Semper Fi🇺🇸and Slava Ukraini🇺🇦!
Pat Tillman was not a hero, In fact one Ranger said he was promoted over more deserving Rangers because he was the golden boy and believes he was purposely killed, Fragged.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm he is still a person who chose to serve for his country. The fact that the army used him for a PR advantage isn’t his fault. The fact that they lied to the American public and put his family through pain to keep up that PR image is not his fault. Seeking justice for someone doesn’t mean they’re automatically seen as the best hero of all heroes. But saying that other soldiers were more deserving of “hero” status doesn’t mean he deserves to be treated as a subhuman. The story of a soldier dying by friendly fire and the cover up that followed is atrocious, not because he was in the NFL, but because no family deserves to go through that.
If I killed someone by accident I wouldn’t want to go on a talk show an who’s this relaxed ? Very bizarre
Bizarre and creepy as hell. I certainly wouldn’t be announcing it all over the place.
He’s also Zionist so he support war criminal IDF
Accountability? For the sake of mending the situation by speaking his truth? He definitely could have used a more vivid tone than what he used.
I rather him go to the family, instead going to the media 🤦🏾♂️it’s like he want clout for it
Dude has a smile on his face in the beginning. When the time comes
They set pat up and did him wrong
Pat Tillman was murdered. Three tight shots to the forehead; field doctors called it a murder; special snipers, outside Pat's unit, were attached for this mission; there was NOT ONE bullet-hole found in convoy vehicles or occupants (i.e. there was NO ambush); all Pat's gear, including personal diary, were destroyed. The list of damning facts goes on and on.
Pat was seen as a propaganda asset at his enlistment, and then see as a liability when he made his feelings about the criminality of the war known. The Administration then decided to "cash-out" on its investment and turn him into a War Hero/Martyr.
As commented below, the facts show Pat was killed by close up (150 ft. or less), well-aimed rifle fire. This guy states that of the 2 people killed in the "engagement," "one was an Afghan soldier." So is he claiming that Pat Tillman and the Afghan soldier were shooting at HIM?!?!?!?!? Remember, NO bullet holes in any US vehicles. Additionally, there an eye-witness, Sgt. Bryan O'Neal, who puts the lie to all of this.
This guy is lying.
USA invasion of Afghanistan: good. Russia invasion of Ukraine: bad. lol
@@mt_gox well, Afghanistan has terrorists
@@mt_gox You're just a troll who is ignoring the fact that the Taliban government in Afghanistan were sheltering Al-Qaida and bin Laden and Zawahiri, who planned the 911 terrorist attacks. The terrorists needed to be removed. A forever occupation of Afghanistan was never going to work. Keeping 20,000-30,000 American troops in Afghanistan to do nation building with a society that lives in the Middle Ages just so little girls there could go to school was always a stupid idea - the US does not have enough money to do that.
Keeping an intelligence surveillance of the terrorist activity there, and Hellfire Ginzu knifing the terrorists that return to Afghanistan is by far the better way to go. Even before 911, US intelligence knew about bin Laden and his terrorist training camps in Afghanistan - but nothing was done by both Clinton and Bush.
@@gandalfgreyhame3425 The only certain FACT about 9/11 is that the official story is suspicious, at best.
Bush "foretelling" before 2001 that "his country is going to need him, that something terrible will happen", that he is "gonna have to do it", jumbo jets flying for up to 50 minutes in the U.S. airspace unchecked, a few alleged hijackers still alive, WTC 1 and 2 falling perfectly as if they were rigged and demolished with thermite charges, WTC 7 falling perfectly in its footprint even though it wasn't hit directly nor was the fire spread evenly throughout, and many more details. Don't forget the Israeli guys arrested for dancing and celebrating while the buildings were burning.
Only those who planned and executed the 9/11 false flag operation know all the details of how they did it and who was really involved.
@@gandalfgreyhame3425 And before calling someone a troll, you should at least check the official stories from multiple sources which state exactly what this guy mentioned here, including Pat Tillman's destroyed documents.
investigators said there was no evidence of a firefight, no enemy shells, tracks, blood, nothing. so why were they shooting so close to pat?
why is he trying so hard to not smile?
Because Pat wanted to talk to ppl about atrocities....so they killed him...I'm guessing Tillman didn't want to seem like a turncoat and wait to speak out until he came home. He was outspoken during his stint....it cost him his life
@@mrspkyI found that very odd as well. He seemed awfully joyful about getting to talk about killing Pat Tillman.
What investigators? The Army never sent anyone to go over the scene. The scene wasn't investigates, at least not by the military at that time.
@@davep4211what evidence do you have of that because that’s a stretch to say they killed him because he was gonna report war crimes
If that's true he should be getting a thrashing. They popped smoke, flares, and were only 50 meters away close enough to hear them screaming. He was either trigger happy or he wanted to murder him.
tillmens fellow soldiers sound incompetent
Looks so young now in'23, so he must have been 19 in 2004. ...Video- game warrior soft cocks that volunteered then effed up.
Australian and New Zealand,Brit coalition returnees said the average yank was a whiny crybaby, bitchin about HaagenDaaz and burgers running out. NATO soldiers said they were more afraid of dying by the yanks than the insurgents.
Hoo boy, now JCS Gen.Milley and Sec.Def. Austin will defend US overseas interests with ' politically correctness'.
Exactly
He was scared and they all panicked
@rickmonzo scared of what they weren't even in any danger judging by the after action reports and witnesses.
I don't even think he did it, I think he was paid to front it, but the fact that he laughed let alone smiles makes Me sick. first time that has ever happened to me.
Genuinely sickening, all involved.
I cry when I think I hope hell is real so there will be justice in this world then realise. ..there isn't, there will not be.
What?
Sure smiling might seems out of place, but if you see the video all the way till the end, you understand why.
His story doesn't add up, especially when you consider all the circumstances.
He "believes" he may have shot Pat!? Yet the authopsy report shows Pat must have been shot from no more than 10 meters away, which would mean there should be no doubt in the mind of whoever shot him. This is all BS.
He must have been paid to tell this story, to cover up for what really happened, and put a softer spin on it.
You're stuck in an endless loop of fantasizing about hell followed by actually crying because you believe that there isn't one? You okay? Or do you think that you are being introspective and deep or something my guy?
you're kinda weird
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I bet Robert Kraft loves that statement 😄
Remember, billionaires and war mongers main product they sell is deception
He was patriotic in the sense that he wanted to speak out and tell the American people how the government lied them into Iraq. He was killed for his efforts.
So how did he end up with 3 close holes in the back his head, then all his possessions burnt, the covered up for a decade, this is bullshit and this guy knows it
If you read Jon Krakauer's book, you'll walk away thinking there is absolutely no certainty he killed Pat. There are numerous discrepancies surrounding Pat's death still to this day, and while Krakauer concludes Pat was _probably_ killed in a similar way this guy talks about, there are legitimate concerns it didn't go down like this at all, and Pat was shot from much closer range. There's a real likelihood more was covered up than what the Army led on. There's even a chance this guy was set up to be a fall guy, a patsy even, and he may or may not even know it.
Read the book, do you own research, search everything you can find, not just that book, or Wikipedia, or fringe stuff. Then come back and try to post that you are certain this guy is telling the truth; you won't be able to.
Krakauer's book is incorrect to assume he was killed "from much closer." He was killed as every eyewitness says he was killed. There is no need to create ANOTHER conspiracy around this. No one could have known Tillman was going to be there because he requested to be run up the hill himself.
You said he may have been set up and may not even know it. So he could be telling the truth as he believes it to be. So he’s not necessarily lying even if what he believes and what he’s saying isn’t the “truth”.
You're forgetting some stuff from Jon Krakauer's book that specifically states the falsehood of Pat Tillman being shot up close started from a doctor thinking the tight cluster of shots were shot from an m4 when in reality it was a SAW and that can be done from much further away. Also the SAW gunner and the squad leader each testified to having shot at the respective friendlies, Tillman and the AMF soldier
Didn’t Krakauer say it was Trevor Alders, the SAW gunner, who killed Tillman?
@@Prof_Z_PhD Thanks for posting. Appreciate the clarification.
I watched The Pat Tillman documentary last night. I’m British. My grandfather fought in both world wars, and was in the Royal Navy his whole working life. There was a motto or saying, that the army guys, (my dad was in the army) it was: “Don’t get in front of the yanks.’ What it meant was, they were more likely to become excitable and shoot at anything that moved. And in the Second World War, where a lot of the US army were conscripts and not trained properly, just farm boys and city boys, given a gun and sent to a different country, many of them killed British troops. Friendly Fire is the oxymoron applied to it. The day that Tillman died everyone was jumpy. Their humvee had broken down. They knew some mujhuradin might be watching and signaling back to their enemies. If only they had stuck together as a convoy without the gap. Mr and Mrs Tillman and Mrs Tillman (the wife) lost a wonderful human being that day. And so did the world. I admire Mr Tillmans composure and self control. I bet he wanted to slap the snot out of those lying top brass fraudsters, who denied him the truth about his son’s needless death.
Sooooo many lies, no one shot at them. They stopped their cars shot then drove up to 40 feet away from them and unloaded a gun on them…. Sicko
Pat Tillman is a fucking hero and he deserves more from this country to honor him....
@Jake Smith giving up a $9,000,000 NFL contract to join the fucking army…as ENLISTED (Officers need college degrees, he HAD that but joined to roll around in the fucking dirt!) with NO draft…he NEVER NEEDED TO DIE IN THE DIRT for ANYONE…😡🤬
@@KellyfromMemphisDD214 He was an idiot. lol
Pat Tillman was not a hero. Hero's mind their own business. He was in a country he had no business in. That's ESAU for you
@@jonahlogan7234 the amount of stupidity in this comment alone makes me worry about the world’s mental state.
@@KellyfromMemphisDD214 All for family legacy. A real shame, he seemed like a good person who thought they were doing something great. That’s one of the many realities of being an Infantryman.
I don't know why he would do this is he proud of it, I would put this away for real. Their is another way of getting your 15 min of fame wow
I agree, if he were being genuine , he would have come out and took responsibility when it happened. Suddenly he needs to tell the world that, if he didn’t want the attention he would have wrote a letter.
I feel ur frustration and I completely agree with you
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If this is true, sometimes people can't handle a guilty conscience for something as awful as what happened. Sometimes people just need to speak the truth to feel better about themselves and everyone in the situation.
The man has been living with the possible accidental death of a brother. Try living with that and not talking about it. And what he means by he did it is that he is speaking for his fire team not himself specifically.
The whole CoC was covering it up. Dude was probably a specialist who got told to shut up and forget about it.
Its sickening. Where is the communication? Where is the fucking radio communication. Pat Tillman 's team got engaged more than once in this incident. One from around 300 meters and then the humvee moved closer, dismounted and continued to fire. the rangers on the ground didnt bother positively identifying if they were friend or foe. they just wanted to be in a firefight. Pat's team did not return fire once. It was a deliberate attack on his position.
Is it actually hard to see? You have a guy claiming he shot and killed Pat by accident.. He likely did.. I don't bite on consipiracy theory BS.. Tillman was NOT someone so well known he would have been a great propaganda prop... No way... NO, this guy, if he did actually KIA Tillman... Well, listening to this tripe.. How the EFFF was this guy a "Ranger"??? AND, why is he talking about his private convos with Pat's Mom? I wasn't there, but I "feel like", there were a bunch of rank AMATEURS running around, maybe with Ranger tabs and all... FYI.. Anyone who has actually killed someone, and has been haunted by long nights over battles and what goes down in the sh!t.. Seek counseling... Talking about killing Pat online, and talking about your coming into comms with Pat's Mom... This guy is a PATHETIC attention seeker in my eyes.. Make amends with accidentally killing someone in your unit, or even on our team / side, online??? Some things I consider sacred... Sharing them with anyone online would be the last thing I would do..
Okay so SAY you are the person that killed a fellow soldier...would YOU go on anything and describe it? Not saying this is all a conspiracy....but...probably.
They murdered him. He probably knew too much. This guy works for the agency.
I agree
Yep paid off or mk ultra.
@@gmoney5947 have you guys ever been to war…
@@gmoney5947 you've seen way too many movies fanboy
Why in the hell would a person do this. Just keep it to yourself.
Dude tryna sell his book he using pat to monetize
He couldn’t see the smoke grenades Pat threw that obviously identified him as a friendly?
I have a feeling they killed him on purpose out of jealousy for turning down a 6 million dollar NFL contract
@@ShockwaveZero I'm not saying I agree, but if you read Krakauer's book, and other objective info, this is a possibility. Krakauer looked into it as much as anyone, even visiting where Pat was killed and talking with local Afghanis. Even he admits there's holes in every theory, with more information still out there, very likely being withheld.
@@ShockwaveZero lol has nothing to do with him turning down an a contract. He spoke out against the military action being taken and was killed by friendly fire that was covered up. The man was killed for disagreeing with the government. Don’t disrespect his memory by equating his death to a bad contract negotiation.
Couldn't see the smoke from 40 yards away? Vis was good, lies
How was he not dishonorably discharged for murdering fellow rangers in the military disgusting he should have been sued by the Tillman family for murder!
You can tell he is lying. This seems rehearsed...they knew he died by friendly fire within 24 hours but it took like 1 year for the truth to come out only cause his mom pushed for it and the full truth still hasn't come out.
If you’ve never been in the military than you have no idea the horrible position these soldiers are put in by their superiors and even the leaders in Washington. As a civilian you can say and do whatever you want but that’s just not possible all the time as an enlisted member of our armed forces. If you’ve never been in a fire fight, in the dark, in enemy territory you don’t have the right to judge this man.
@@jlurenzjr I could say what I want it's a proven fact they hid what happened to him.
@@dirtditch3 Of course you can say what you want. Guess you missed my point. Nvm.
@@jlurenzjr The USA military is nothing but a bunch of war criminals.
It was his brother that did the proper investigation.
He didn't kill Pat by accident. He's a plant to further the friendly fire lie.
Pat was intentionally killed because he was outspoken about that joke of a war he was in.
I'm an AZ native and not gonna name drop who I know or who told me what because it doesn't benefit me, but, that's the word around.
Take it for what you will, or leave it....
You’re giving the us government way too much credit. What makes people think the clumsy U.S. government can pull off such crazy covert conspiracy coverups. This is a country that couldn’t conduct the 2000 election properly or get a bottle of water to New Orleans in 2005 after hurricane katrina. They split off when the humvee broke down, they heard gunfire nearby and got confused and spooked, it’s called the fog of war. The guy saw the afghani soldier with Pat and thought he was the enemy. Unfortunately Pat got dragged into the wrong war. He wanted to be in the justified battle to destroy the Taliban who harbored al qaeda who did 9/11, but by the time pat was done with training he had to go to Iraq and then got sent to Afghanistan to go after insurgents and fallout from the Taliban being overthrown. It’s a shame he couldn’t have been a part of the team that hunted down bin Laden eventually, because that’s what he really wanted to do. He wanted to protect our country by getting rid of the scum that perpetuated 9/11.
His platoon got away with murder.smdh🤧
You would be shocked with the amount of people that got away with child porn/assualt, murder, rape and horrendous things during these tours. Imagine the ones under the rug. I have read a lot of self accounts on reddit.
Is this guy sick or something look at that smile
Someone should of been held accountable
Didn't he see "Born on the 4th of July?" Nothing good comes from telling you're responsible for a friendly fire kill.
17 years later?
'The guy wrote a book therefore, by definition, he's selling a story. He was there so he is relevant. "My superior likely killed PT" is the message.
Pat Tillman was a better man then he will every be. This is a coward
Pat was struck pointblank in the 3 shots this guys lieing
Anyone who hasn't been in this exact situation has no business speaking on it truly
a soldier in the crew in the Canyon, the first car in the row took off and was shooting at everything, and that it was the guy on the truck mounted gun, who TURNED AROUND to shoot and hit Tillman.. he said they knew immediately.
He was hit by 3 round burst fire from 10 yards away with m16 not a machine gun
She's not kidding with the interviews this year.
Why is this guy smiling?
Tryna get rich off our brother pats memory... sad
What a horrible lead-in by the "host". Don't tell me or him how we "feel", let the story, whatever it is, unfold naturally AND then see if the facts match the story. I will NOT be emotionally manipulated by anyone for any reason. The ONLY thing that matters is the truth.
i thinks the dude that was near and now is acting all upset by what he seen
what;s wrong with what she said in the beginning???
@@mamster233 She set the tone by emotionally manipulating the front end of the story. In lawyer speak this would be called leading the witness in order to influence or poison a jury's view. In "journalism/talk shows" it's called gaslighting, she's looking to control the public court of opinion with her personal bias. On such a sensitive subject the last thing she should ever be doing is framing the scene, it's unprofessional.
@@DivineRedwood wow, you're awesome. thanks!
This guy's story is very suspect...
He killed a anti-Bush and anti-war hero. He's a star for the DoD.
I truly think this whole thing is a sham. Sorry if I offend ppl.
Yea idk why he’s smiling dude. Is he the devil or something?
HE LIES!!!!
THIS GUY IS A LOOK AT ME DUDE at best
As Mrtriffid said:
Pat Tillman was murdered.
Three tight shots to the forehead; field doctors called it a murder; special snipers, outside Pat's unit, were attached for this mission; there was NOT ONE bullet-hole found in convoy vehicles or occupants (i.e. there was NO ambush); all Pat's gear, including personal diary, were destroyed. The list of damning facts goes on and on.
Pat was seen as a propaganda asset at his enlistment, and then see as a liability when he made his feelings about the criminality of the war known. The Administration then decided to "cash-out" on its investment and turn him into a War Hero/Martyr.
As commented below, the facts show Pat was killed by close up (150 ft. or less), well-aimed rifle fire. This guy states that of the 2 people killed in the "engagement," "one was an Afghan soldier." So is he claiming that Pat Tillman and the Afghan soldier were shooting at HIM?!?!?!?!? Remember, NO bullet holes in any US vehicles. Additionally, there an eye-witness, Sgt. Bryan O'Neal, who puts the lie to all of this.
This guy is lying.
Yup, 15 minutes of fame from click- baiters( including I)
think? HE THINKS HE DID?? He was shot 3 times in the head from a suspected 10 yards away…
Friendly fire isn't.
Thanks murph💞
Tell Americans the truth!!! Watch the pat tillman story there was no justice
BS, HOW do you NOT Know between the two Special Army Rangers Supposedly the BEST of the BEST not Know? Smdh
Sounds like his "superior" was trigger happy ! Or whoever ?
Peter griffin actually killed pat tillman
According to men who served with him, he was a complete a$$. Not saying that he should’ve been killed. Whoever was responsible needs to be held accountable! Top down. But the whole he’s all that because he left football to join the military is ridiculous. He’s no different from a kid from a trailer park who joined the military.
Dumbest comment of the day
Yeah, no one is special. Just a person from American trailer park. Well put
i get where ur coming from but the world dont work like that
Agree this culture is a sociomanic nightmare. But when Tom Cruise's character went to visit the widow of the guy HE SHOT by accident, it was for closure :the truth ( closure for them )
These things in life you don t get medals for, the truth is one of them
( unless the alarm is sounded first, everyone sees it, then someone happens to catch a remarkable, brave, unprecedented, unparalleled act of contrivance on camera ) you see good people didn't t start springing up everywhere until the millennium and smartphones. We ve been growing into greatness ever sinc3.
I refused to go to Iraq in my guard unit. The war was a scam
Capitalism has sociopathic ethics. Only trash thrives under such a dynamic. It is no wonder we're in the state we're in.
This new culture has their brains in the freezer!!
Says the person who is probably an antivaxxer
@@Rountree1985 apples and oranges -
For the record - I even got the 3rd shot!
Now go to the freezer and get yours back.
Part of NWO is extreme dumbing-down, to the point of making the sheeple walking brain-dead. "There will be in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak....Producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people, will in fact, have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel, by PROPAGANDA, or BRAINWASHING, enhanced by pharmacological methods.....And this seems to be the final revolution." Aldous Huxley (authored the "fictional" novel of totalitarian rule society) March 1962. "I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers live and die in the belief that they have known something of what has been passing in the world.....I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson, 1807. "World events do not occur by accident, they are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues, or commerce; and those who hold the purse strings state and manage most of them." - Denis Healey, former British Secretary of State for Defense. "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you committ atrocities." - Voltaire
this guy is a spook. i don’t buy it
Go act like you have PTSD and stop trying to cash grab from it. Telling the same lie.
Good one 👍🤣
Wait. His immediate superior was firing rounds identified in the rock behind Tillman - but this subordinate, knows for sure it’s *his own round* that killed Tillman? That barely makes logistical sense since to ‘get behind’ implies ‘by passing by, or through’ whatever was in front - unless this commander was deliberately shooting solely at the rock - even then though, the soldier *with* Tillman said there was “no cover” in their position, and that the friendly’s moved to a better firing position - shouldn’t Tillman have been behind any rocks??
*My* turret gunner - meaning he was the driver, was firing a ‘particular type of round’ found in the rocks *behind* Tillman so it became obvious that BS BS BS crock of shit fantasy needed implementing in order to make it believable to everyone without a brain…….
……and shortly after that, we left the surface of Saturn to go and get donuts.
I’m glad he remembers it all with a chuckle and a big ‘old American smile though - that’s an extremely respectful and fitting way to recall all those hilarious Blue on Blue incidents, especially when you neutralise a PR Golden Boy and make a martyr out of him. Wait - that didn’t happen though?? Wow, it’s way above my 52yr old ex British REME veteran nugget. Thankfully not of this embarrassing campaign.
What the hell was Tillman doing there anyway, being a far left Chomsky fan?
Yossarian, of Catch 22 come to mind.
Well put
He specifically said that he does not know for sure.
Tillman was murdered from 10 yards away. This is complete nonsense. F this little gamma. Karma.
It’s all about communication and training.
Also the calibre of the US soldiers and command structures. Multiple times NATO combatants said their biggest worry was not the Talis but being shot by nervous, trigger happy rookie grunts, Afghans had just got rid of the Soviets, Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi, his family did business with Bush's. If he took refuge in London, would US bomb the shite out of it? For petes sake the US was arming the Mujahidin/ Taliban for years during Soviet occupation.( see ' Charlie Wilson's War').imo dimwit Dubya was manipulated by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeldt. ....just like geriatric Biden is on the Ukraine war. Donald Trump had/has the best take on this.
What did GW 2 achieve? 1.3 million deaths, most of them women and children, 6000 US deaths, 275,000 maimed, and a lot of PTSD, 2.6. TRILLION cost.
Now imagine the surviving relatives of the 1.3 mill.dead seeking justice/ revenge, Bush recently "dodged a bullet" by an Iraqi assassin.
Bro keep it to yourself
This guy is trying get his 15 mins of fame. HE MAY OR MAY NOT of done it. However rhe fact is Tillman came into the army with a HUGE ego. Soldiers who were there have said he acted like he his shit didnt smell. It was friendly fire or manslaughter. Either way some of the soldiers on his unit could not stand him. Here you have a guy who was supposed be in the NFL who leaves to join up. For alot of these soldiers who were lifers in the military that pissed them off. That this guy can come in do one tour and leave and go back to make millions while they are stuck. They hated the fact Tillman was going serve and leave . His atitude was not humblings and ordering guys around. When your a new soldier you gotta be humble however its just not possible usually when your going fronm the NFL to the army. Every war needs its propaganda... This guy waited until the war is over to come out DECADES after pat is dead...
Accidentally death is manslaughter, he was murdered no question about it. They gave him 3 to the brain to be sure. 1 bullet could be friendly fire unless it was from a full auto which it wasn't. They say he had powder burns meaning point blank shots unless Stevie wonder was in his group I call bullshit.
Oh so shoot a fellow American because you don’t like him huh? It’s this a joke? Sick.
Well opined Mr.Bhaskar.
This coward didn't come forward with this info until the truth was investigated. He's a psychopath that's why he is doing these interviews. He's proud of it.
Bad things happen in the heat of war... Battles.. NAME IT.. "Help me understand" why you felt the need (Steven Elliot) to go on a speaking tour for this??? I felt really sorry for the previously (right after Pat was killed by friendly fire) soldier who mistakenly pulled the trigger, or a group thereof soldiers.. . Again, most people don't understand the pressure of a firefight.. That being said.. Yo', Elliot.. You killed a guy most loved.. He wasn't a hero.. I have all the love in the world but I DO NOT believe soldiers are heroes UNLESS they do something heroic.. I also don't generally blame soldiers or even units who fk up under pressure.. WTF are YOU standing up and talking about it everywhere? Is that cathartic for YOU??? Had I shot someone on my own team, I would want to die.. I would do my best to make it up to the family / families as much as possible.. YOU "sir" are just SLURPING up this... Nobody really gives a single sheot that you were the man to 'accidentally' kill Pat Tillman.. I will say you sucked as a Ranger.. Commos weren't that bad back then even.. Don't EVER bask in the Sunlight Pat Tillman shown.. Had I accidently killed any of my fellow troopers.. You wouldn't find me on camera all over the internet.. Nobody gets redemption for running around claiming that you killed one of your own.. THAT is only attention seeking.. PUKE...
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well fucking said
Wow what better person than this guy to receive the Pat Tillman Award! 2024 and now more attention bought to the military! Make it make sense to give it to Princely Harry! Disgraceful interview!
Is he one of the guys LAUGHING during the court martial ???
Was he killed bcus he knew something?
Pat Tillman was hit three times in the head, most likely from a M16 at a distance of only "less than 10yards (9.1m) away"! Pat's part of the split platoon had been singling by several ways to ensure those nearby knew they were 'friendlies'. How is it possible that no-one from the other split platoon never visualised nor heard any radio communications from Pat's platoon? How can it be possible at this distance to not recognise the uniform as being from their own platoon? Far too many questions and still not enough answers. As for this guy, I couldn't care less. Who goes on telly boasting about killing one of his own brothers in arms?🇦🇺
lol, is this the only show he went on to talk about this? Why didn’t any major news networks interview him?
Guy is on some weird energy. Strange dude
He’s definitely Escondido!
He looks like Don Jr
Murderer laughed about it
There is no visual aids like maps or drawings to give a good view of what happened. I hear that U.S. forces initially used a .50 and those rounds landed very near Tillman. In fact it was also said that some of those rounds hit a soldier from Afghanistan and that he was very near Tillman and that Tillman saw it happen. I read that there was animosity between Tillman and anothert soldier of equal rank. The U.S. had problems and some soldiers confronted Rumsfeld about lack of proper equipment.
there is more to this story. massive cover up going on. Even Pat's brother said the person that killed him saw Pat waving his hands to stop firing. this interview sickens me
Not possiable as Kevin was in the back of the convoy
He did it.
50m away. What a story the govt gives us and we eat it up. I've know many many men who have served. They've told me unspeakable acts that have happened. Maybe Pat was silenced...
This is the story I have heard from my time in B Co, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. Pat Tillman was killed from his platoon because of his pompous and arrogant attitude.
Makes sense. Then, being Football legend, built like ' Big Moose' after following Chomsky, he keeps fighting and killing ' enemies' he says are the good guys. Still, I don't believe higherups ordered his killing, just plain old incompetence achieved his death. The lying US propagandists get a pass too.
Maybe he was smart enough to realize that Isreali Mossad was behind 9/11 and not a bunch or farmers in Afghanistan wearing flip flops. Fukin how dumb can Americans be
Lovely.
dudes mad at a would be millionaire football player?
Sounds like a cover for killing him because of his political views
Is he launching a political campaign?
Hell is assured
So, why was Pat Tillman’s body found w 3 bullets to the head? Why was his body burnt, including a chunk of his brain? Even his notebook found nearby, that he always carried, that was also burnt.
It was either friendly fire or a hit. You see popular Pat didn’t agree with what was happening in Iraq and was vocal about it. He also kept writing letters home n in his journal. Then he was transferred to Afghanistan. Why the cover up n lies if it was the fog of war? Very odd. Tragedy 🎭
Justice for Pat !!! It was all set up
Why bother if you are not sure. What’s the point. PT died a hero and he is more of a hero to me because of the person he was/is and how he lived his life.
Intersting considering tillman's wounds were consistent from being shot from a .223 from a distance less than 10 yards. Do you have a confession to male my son
'male' son?
Pat Tillman.
Tillman was a person of the social structure of a representation of a goody guy of traditional american values of what he wanted people to see in him of the open public s perspective of Society s Icons. There were people on the same level that didnt like how he would over look his piers when he felt his actions need to be addressed of overall perspectives of the open public. From school to Football he had many that viewed him as an overkill of the public persona of being an Icon. I really believe this extended in his Service for US and with people of ego trips, the Military has them all. His death was likely committed out of the" I get you back you jerk or the daddy s favorite son antics" from members of his Unit as the shots fired was to intentionally say F you out of excuse of not knowing friendly in area. We all know these situations of the childish demeanor many of US had to grow out of due to not growing up as we get to be Adults, as in this case a few guys in Tillman s Unit knows what Im talking about and the guilt of not admitting the death came out of a childish antic of jealousy and envy. R.I.P. Pat Tillman, may your life serve as lessons in life to admire and endure.
Just say, those bullets fired around him was to be intentionally missed and be laughing about and the 2nd time around, Tillman just so happen to pop his head out a bit too soon and the joke just got out of hand where it was not needed in Military..
@@user619tlsdca5 What the fuck is all that garbage? Bunch of rambling gibberish.
Lol at the ahle comments... he's being honest...something that what males are taught not to do...😂
So he was part of the cover up?
His Dupers Delight grin is distracting.
Makes sense Escondido 🤔
Liar.
Russia invaded Afghanistan as well. The US also invaded looking for Osama-kilt-by-Obama.
Biden was right to end the war Afghanistan.
Semper Fi🇺🇸and Slava Ukraini🇺🇦!
He was not a war hero. Stop the cap.
Clout chasing
Hired actor
clout chaser
Pat Tillman was not a hero, In fact one Ranger said he was promoted over more deserving Rangers because he was the golden boy and believes he was purposely killed, Fragged.
Thanks for desecrating his memory.
@@solomonstello You're welcome, He's a manufactured hero.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm he is still a person who chose to serve for his country. The fact that the army used him for a PR advantage isn’t his fault. The fact that they lied to the American public and put his family through pain to keep up that PR image is not his fault.
Seeking justice for someone doesn’t mean they’re automatically seen as the best hero of all heroes. But saying that other soldiers were more deserving of “hero” status doesn’t mean he deserves to be treated as a subhuman.
The story of a soldier dying by friendly fire and the cover up that followed is atrocious, not because he was in the NFL, but because no family deserves to go through that.