This was clearly cover up by McCrystal and The Army. Complete destruction of all evidence including Pat Tillman notebook indicates that this was cover up.
This is so sad 😞 We are 3 boys i am the middle one and i can’t imagine my life without them 2.I can imagine how Kevin Tillman is feeling,r.i.p Pat Tillman😞
we,ve all been subjected to silence....and told we were to NEVER tell what we know.....I will always be there ...................that's the part that NEVER goes away.........THANK YOU
The truth requires two people, someone to tell it and someone to hear it. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, quantum mechanics wouldn't work.Point is, nobody listens, so I talk smack.
The name calling I've read in these comments are sickening. It's one thing to disagree with someone in an intelligent manner, it's quite another to scream profanitys and insults in efforts to get your point across.
Kevin, BRAVERY runs in the Tillman Family 🗽 Patrick "set a high bar" a bar that "The Government" Is without capacity to perceive ✨ I pray for a compassionate heart and the future of our planet ☮️
Excellent observation. I hadn't noticed that til now. Notwithstanding how disgusting their total absense looks, even if one were to disagree with ,y own view, could we not ALL agree it is, at minimum: DISRESPECTFUL
Pat has met with the most tragic accident! Almost as tragic as Archbishop Bertram being struck by a falling gargoyle while swimming off; and nearly as tragic as poor old Archbishop Wilfred slipping and falling backwards onto the spire of Norwich Cathedral. Oh Lord, you do work in mysterious ways. Else the US government might have had quite a hard time, having to cope with a popular former sports dude squealing their opium growing operations in Afghanistan and protesting their wars in general.
Tillman's death is tragic to say the least. If you think that he is is the only trooper that has been KIA by friendly fire you are sadly mistaken. War is hell & shit happens. What about Able Danger Nancy? People who send others to war should by and in there actions should send their kids into the firefights too.
well after this incident, how is it possible that there are still people not understanding why so many countries didn´t believe there were any weapons of mass destruction in Irak and that the U.S. were desperately trying to talk them into war....
Was this hearing before Jessica Lunch or his brother knew about Pat being at the staged rescue? His friend said that is when expressed disgust with an illegal war.
Kevin, is a true American hero, just like his brother. Both brave men facing extreme danger. It takes steel balls to do what Kevin did, and Kevin you did your brother proud. Republican neo-con slimebags, don't smear this man's name, O'reilly this means you.
the statements by the republican members during this hearing were absolutley disgusting. Claiming that the lies told about tillmans death were somehow just inadequcies is truly a new low. Harry Reid is a man of the people. What if a senator stood up at the end of the vietnam war and told Nixon publicly that the war is over ? That person would be held with high reguard in the history books and so will Harry.
military service is certainly not a requirement to have an opinion and if you read what geo said you might see that i was responding to the question he asked, not on an opinion..READ what he said
I wonder if Michelle Malkin from Hot Air, who currently has a "comedy video" about Democrats being defeatists would call the Tilman Family a bunch of cowards? For all the US Soldiers currently serving and those who did amd those who never came back, you have my most sincere gratitude. It has been a disgrace how politicians have used you to exploit their own egos and continue to conduct a war of egotism.
And how would a polish person mistake another polish person for anything but a pole idk i don't know how to keep my mouth shut I'd rather be the break thru operator and I'm never desperate for help
Precisely. So what you´re saying then is that apparently even Bush´s daughters don´t consider the cause worthy enough to volunteer. Thanks for supporting my point.
"they would work in bursts" i have always eaten starburst and bought them too like Mug Root beer why would Firestone hit me? And Tillman really was a death they still disastrously did not notify myself about. And i want to know when they are talking about this hit disturbingly close to the mark. And no one not one person comes to see or talk with me about this hit that hit disturbingly close to the mark and my dad's name is Mark?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? I waited and chose not to watch despicable me because of this. It was a conscious decision I made and these people steady still ruining themselves and doing fraud everywhere I'm not talking about frauding the system I'm talking real ass; "who are you" fraud.
@reneelemke2946 What are you even talking about? Your comment(s) make no sense at all. You seem to write in a broken English style that is lost in translation. You clearly are not getting your point across. I can't tell if you are making light of Pat Tillman's tragic death by the hands of his own troop, or you are sympathetic, but don't know how to properly convey it through English writing. Also, you might be mistaken on the thread in which you are referring to, but I see no comments from men, or women referring to you as sweety, baby doll or any other flirting advances you write about in your other comments.
I didn't think you had the balls to take on an issue head to head. Allow me to school you here. Whether or not someone has "been marginalized" is, now watch close, NOT a measure of the truth value of their statements. Pick an issue little man, let's party!
I thought you might want to take on an issue, feel free if you wish. Labeling and name calling isn't debate. Go ahead and start with the fact that there was a coverup of Pat Tillman's death and his family was lied to. Go ahead and justify it. Let's party sucker!
Don't censor me I'm Germany 1 it's not your internet it's mine and you ain't letting any of this thru to me or my daughter. I can be the brutal truth or just the truth and I'm not anything that isn't better than or greater than because i did my homework and i found my end that was made and you could have told me. I understood way more than any could imagine the things I've seen and watched.
Cant believe You are posting this Nancy. YOU ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the war. YOU VOTED TO SENT OUR TROOPS THERE. Did you think we would forget your duplicity ?
LOL - excellent rundown of the crop, rivercmb! I, for one, would like to Giuliani get the nod, if only to see the reaction of the world when the tape of him dressed as a woman smooching Donald Trump is broadcast. I imagine the thought of an American president as transvestite will get an interesting reception.
And if you Fratricide don't come near me sweetie honey and stop calling me pet names like baby sweetie honey doll babe baby. Like nah i don't need to really explain that if i don't know you or see you all the time why are you calling me names like I'm your girl or wife that's weird
I have to quit and decline any of these complimenting advances from men and women sorry i have to be this man's life not despicable me's. Don't deceive my family after this 20 years ago.
Thats why it is important to indentify a real enemy target and threat before you go sending rounds down range...there are missions ongoing with Spec Ops/Rangers imbedded tight with the enemy in these villages and thats why its not a good idea to just shoot everything up...when the bullets start to fly it takes a bigger set of balls to sit tight in the pocket or gunnersnest and find a target instead of just spraying and praying and only thinking about yourself.
I listened to the entire statement made by Mr. Tillman Brother and the incident doesn't meet the requirements of murder. I don't know the hearts of the men firing their weapons, but Pat Tillman's brother was there and his attitude must be given great weight. Mr Tillman is obviously very emotional about the loss of is brother, and he fell short from making a charge of murder.
Mark Beaudry When does the testimony of lies told by Officers represent mallace? Inocent until proven is good...consideration for obstruction of justice is also fare. Without proof of reasons to destroy evidrnce, destroying evidence is a crime worthy of consequences in alignment with conspiracy. One doesn't need to prove murder because in fact murder waa committed. How can you deny that fact? The job is not to decide what is fact. The job is to gain the truth of all involved for learning. If learning is not sought than the involved must have acted as planned and accomplished their goal. In summary, destruction of evidence is in fact admitting to accomplishing a goal.
Laura Powers you have conceived your own standard for murder. I don't know what state you come from, but in California the state is required to prove every element of the crime of murder independently and beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no question that lies were told to cover-up something but what that something is has not been proven. No specific intent of murder has been proven in my opinion. Respectively
@@markbeaudry2469 Things continued to change Mr. Beaudry. You don't have all of the facts. Pat's mother went on a mission to find and uncover the truth and she did so. There is a lot of information on the DVD "The Pat Tillman Story". Any one who wants to know the truth should find it somehow and watch it, more than once. There is much information that happens after Kevin Tillman's gut wrenching testimony. And as for proving every element of murder in California if you work in any aspect of the law and you don't realize what a bullshit piece of crap that statement is then you are not paying attention. I worked for a huge law firm in CA and had to work on a death penalty case on behalf of the man convicted who was absolutely innocent. Another case of pinning a murder on a poor uneducated person for money. The Firm had to take the case Pro Bono in keeping with CA State Bar regulations regarding such matters. Ordinarily they would never handle a moneyless case like that. I had a lot of trouble sleeping at night during that business. I was the only one working on it and it deserved at least 3 attorneys working on it, one should have been a partner. I was a paralegal. I have no idea what happened to the man as I was injured on the job and was not able to go back to work there because of the type of injury I had. To try to find that man and speak with him in any way would have been against the rules of the Firm and they could have made my life miserable. Maybe they did the right thing. I told a couple of attorneys there about it and what I thought this man's defense should have been. I hope they got it right but in no way were the 'elements of murder' met in that case.
They popped smoke and flares not to mention the Soldiers that murdered them weren't even being shot at from Pat's position. This was straight up murder.
to answer your question....because they didnt volunteer. before making idiotic, irrelevant comments you should bear in mind that our military is ALL VOLUNTEER
@@anonymous3174 That much I don't doubt, but as someone who labeled the Iraq War completely illegal and had plans to meet Chomsky, I'd have to double down on saying I believe he'd have been anti both.
This is why we need someone who knows about war--someone like John Kerry or Wesley Clark (real American hero) or Chuck Hagel...or even McCain (but he's too much of a flip-flopper)
Ate you spying on me? Thinking about the All Seeing Eye multiple dollars better than 1 ten dollar bill? Albor? So you share have the same pain as Johny Andy and Sir Dyno?
"they would work in bursts" i have always eaten starburst and bought them too like Mug Root beer why would Firestone hit me? And Tillman really was a death they still disastrously did not notify myself about. And i want to know when they are talking about this hit disturbingly close to the mark. And no one not one person comes to see or talk with me about this hit that hit disturbingly close to the mark and my dad's name is Mark?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? I waited and chose not to watch despicable me because of this. It was a conscious decision I made and these people steady still ruining themselves and doing fraud everywhere I'm not talking about frauding the system I'm talking real ass; "who are you" fraud.
This was clearly cover up by McCrystal and The Army. Complete destruction of all evidence including Pat Tillman notebook indicates that this was cover up.
Thank You Kevin Tillman. You continue to serve our nation. The truth shall set us free.
During war,the truth is the first casualty..rest easy Ranger
Greed has poisoned men's souls, good men silenced. This story is one of millions throughout history
Kevin Tillamn is an incredible brave man and a True American hero. I am grateful for his honesty.
You can be too good for this world. Tillman is a good example.
The good die young and go to Heaven, the bad live long on Earth then go to Hell. Nothing changes.
This is so sad 😞 We are 3 boys i am the middle one and i can’t imagine my life without them 2.I can imagine how Kevin Tillman is feeling,r.i.p Pat Tillman😞
❤
Read Jon Kraukauer For the whole story, read: Jon Krakauer - Where Men Win Glory
One of the best books I've read in years.
I wonder if we are told the truth about anything that happens in Iraq or Afghanistan. I doubt it.
Pat was betrayed and killed by the US government. Let's not pretend like we don't know what they did to that man.
He was shot @ very close range not 35 feet away according to the last coroner.
kenny baird can you post a link of that information.
35 feet is still close
@@rd-yr6ww OP misheard, Kevin said 35 metres, that's 115ft
@Frankie Joseph even at 115ft you should be able to identify your target and should easily recognize that it's a fellow ranger.
@alfarouqaminufor3892 they were in a valley where communications fail all the time and they were hiding behind rocks
who the hell is that buzz-lightyear lookin dude in the back left?
Truth is always the first casualty
we,ve all been subjected to silence....and told we were to NEVER tell what we know.....I will always be there ...................that's the part that NEVER goes away.........THANK YOU
kevin tillman has his finger on the pulse of this matter. the american public should commend him.
Kevin, Your brother is proud of you I am sure. You're a brave perosn, thanks for the truth.
The truth requires two people, someone to tell it and someone to hear it. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, quantum mechanics wouldn't work.Point is, nobody listens, so I talk smack.
The name calling I've read in these comments are sickening. It's one thing to disagree with someone in an intelligent manner, it's quite another to scream profanitys and insults in efforts to get your point across.
If this information isn't enough to indict this entire administration, then I don't know what is.
people up top...dont pay...
Tangible revolution.
@@southsideman4891shit rolls downhill
@@jerryjerrylahngenhairy4724 (-_-)
Kevin, BRAVERY runs in the Tillman Family 🗽 Patrick "set a high bar" a bar that "The Government" Is without capacity to perceive ✨ I pray for a compassionate heart and the future of our planet ☮️
Excellent observation. I hadn't noticed that til now. Notwithstanding how disgusting their total absense looks, even if one were to disagree with ,y own view, could we not ALL agree it is, at minimum: DISRESPECTFUL
The irony is that this is a Nancy Pelosi site, kind of like buying a bible at a "Satan's or Us" bookstore.
Bless you Kevin.
Amen. That's a perfect summary.
Correction, Pat Tillman. Not Tilghman. Either way it's spelled, he was the kind of man every father wants his son to become.
Pat has met with the most tragic accident! Almost as tragic as Archbishop Bertram being struck by a falling gargoyle while swimming off; and nearly as tragic as poor old Archbishop Wilfred slipping and falling backwards onto the spire of Norwich Cathedral. Oh Lord, you do work in mysterious ways. Else the US government might have had quite a hard time, having to cope with a popular former sports dude squealing their opium growing operations in Afghanistan and protesting their wars in general.
9 years later you get another thumbs up, goes to show.
Tillman's death is tragic to say the least. If you think that he is is the only trooper that has been KIA by friendly fire you are sadly mistaken. War is hell & shit happens. What about Able Danger Nancy? People who send others to war should by and in there actions should send their kids into the firefights too.
well after this incident, how is it possible that there are still people not understanding why so many countries didn´t believe there were any weapons of mass destruction in Irak and that the U.S. were desperately trying to talk them into war....
We're building a Berlin Wall in Iraq. Will that be acknowledged as pretext to these hearings as well?
Young Americans need to stop volunteering to act as enforcers for the insane policies of Government.
Then there would be no America
This has been happening like it is in play right now in Des Moines Iowa and don't issue fire commands on me like I'm an enemy
And I'm not getting up and stretching out this time
Was this hearing before Jessica Lunch or his brother knew about Pat being at the staged rescue? His friend said that is when expressed disgust with an illegal war.
No it was after
Sorry Ranger but 4 rounds in a tight shot group to the forehead is not freindly fire and should be investigated.
A lie a day keeps the truth away.
You have no idea how applicable that is to the modern military.
Kevin, is a true American hero, just like his brother. Both brave men facing extreme danger. It takes steel balls to do what Kevin did, and Kevin you did your brother proud. Republican neo-con slimebags, don't smear this man's name, O'reilly this means you.
you would think lady speaker could get someone to do a better job of synching the audio with the video
Good little brother. Stay strong.
I'm not going to create a perception or a concealment.
the committee wasnt even listening to him. dam shame
This guy smirking in the back left is weird.
the statements by the republican members during this hearing were absolutley disgusting. Claiming that the lies told about tillmans death were somehow just inadequcies is truly a new low. Harry Reid is a man of the people. What if a senator stood up at the end of the vietnam war and told Nixon publicly that the war is over ? That person would be held with high reguard in the history books and so will Harry.
absolutely.
You guys break my heart
Pat was on my mom's team.
What happend t9 the soldiers who murderd Pat Tilman?
Yeah, Hagel's running but he isn't pulling the numbers anywhere near where the others are.
military service is certainly not a requirement to have an opinion and if you read what geo said you might see that i was responding to the question he asked, not on an opinion..READ what he said
I wonder if Michelle Malkin from Hot Air, who currently has a "comedy video" about Democrats being defeatists would call the Tilman Family a bunch of cowards?
For all the US Soldiers currently serving and those who did amd those who never came back, you have my most sincere gratitude. It has been a disgrace how politicians have used you to exploit their own egos and continue to conduct a war of egotism.
You're still pretending that we haven't already lost this war?
Do you still believe that?
@L i was gonna say, how that aged
How did what age? Did you really think we were “winning” anything?
And how would a polish person mistake another polish person for anything but a pole idk i don't know how to keep my mouth shut I'd rather be the break thru operator and I'm never desperate for help
Wow.
what's worse the fact that fracticize happens or the fact that it happens so often that there is an actual term for it ...fracticize
It's fratricide as in the killing of a brother.
They can hear us
no, what i am saying is they didnt volunteer to join the military so thats why they arent fighting
Pats death was covered up all the way from the platoon level up to the White House.
Only if today's Democratic party cared.. this happened with the Afghanistan withdraw and the abbeygate bombing
Precisely. So what you´re saying then is that apparently even Bush´s daughters don´t consider the cause worthy enough to volunteer. Thanks for supporting my point.
God will deal with them they will not escape from Him.. 🇺🇸
know guys in the platoon said was their statements was wrote my somoene else and signed
"they would work in bursts" i have always eaten starburst and bought them too like Mug Root beer why would Firestone hit me? And Tillman really was a death they still disastrously did not notify myself about. And i want to know when they are talking about this hit disturbingly close to the mark. And no one not one person comes to see or talk with me about this hit that hit disturbingly close to the mark and my dad's name is Mark?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
I waited and chose not to watch despicable me because of this. It was a conscious decision I made and these people steady still ruining themselves and doing fraud everywhere I'm not talking about frauding the system I'm talking real ass; "who are you" fraud.
@reneelemke2946 What are you even talking about? Your comment(s) make no sense at all. You seem to write in a broken English style that is lost in translation. You clearly are not getting your point across. I can't tell if you are making light of Pat Tillman's tragic death by the hands of his own troop, or you are sympathetic, but don't know how to properly convey it through English writing. Also, you might be mistaken on the thread in which you are referring to, but I see no comments from men, or women referring to you as sweety, baby doll or any other flirting advances you write about in your other comments.
And why would 55 kinder care hit a Tillman don't cover yourself up.
And let's get to the Malaysian flight MH-370 part because they literally got that far with it almost to shot in the back by a pole
No more war pigs of the power
You are not allowed to fight over me period don't be despicable
I am not being 100 it is hot i wouldn't even think of doing any Crimea on myself or my blood.
I felt threatened the whole time
I didn't think you had the balls to take on an issue head to head. Allow me to school you here. Whether or not someone has "been marginalized" is, now watch close, NOT a measure of the truth value of their statements. Pick an issue little man, let's party!
@TED2484 What's wrong with you, troll?
Sad sad but welcome and except everyone smh sad government
You think they couldn't hear you ? Yeah right
I thought you might want to take on an issue, feel free if you wish. Labeling and name calling isn't debate. Go ahead and start with the fact that there was a coverup of Pat Tillman's death and his family was lied to. Go ahead and justify it. Let's party sucker!
your right fratricide my bad
Don't censor me I'm Germany 1 it's not your internet it's mine and you ain't letting any of this thru to me or my daughter. I can be the brutal truth or just the truth and I'm not anything that isn't better than or greater than because i did my homework and i found my end that was made and you could have told me. I understood way more than any could imagine the things I've seen and watched.
you shouldnt mark down doglover88 comment:- let everyone see how brainwashed, or what kind of traitor he is
Bush family should be held accountable.
Hello
All I know is I got my new Horse, and Nancy and HSBC are a budge richer for it.
Seriously, was that all one sentence?
Wait. Pelosi hs a yt channel?
forget the loud mouths, focus on how to inform voters.....the mouths are only preaching to the choir
Cant believe You are posting this Nancy. YOU ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the war.
YOU VOTED TO SENT OUR TROOPS THERE. Did you think we would forget your duplicity ?
LOL - excellent rundown of the crop, rivercmb! I, for one, would like to Giuliani get the nod, if only to see the reaction of the world when the tape of him dressed as a woman smooching Donald Trump is broadcast. I imagine the thought of an American president as transvestite will get an interesting reception.
And if you Fratricide don't come near me sweetie honey and stop calling me pet names like baby sweetie honey doll babe baby. Like nah i don't need to really explain that if i don't know you or see you all the time why are you calling me names like I'm your girl or wife that's weird
I have to quit and decline any of these complimenting advances from men and women sorry i have to be this man's life not despicable me's. Don't deceive my family after this 20 years ago.
Thats why it is important to indentify a real enemy target and threat before you go sending rounds down range...there are missions ongoing with Spec Ops/Rangers imbedded tight with the enemy in these villages and thats why its not a good idea to just shoot everything up...when the bullets start to fly it takes a bigger set of balls to sit tight in the pocket or gunnersnest and find a target instead of just spraying and praying and only thinking about yourself.
How much are you paid to discredit the Republican Party? Because your comment does a pretty good job of it.
This is a crisis phone i have many tons
I listened to the entire statement made by Mr. Tillman Brother and the incident doesn't meet the requirements of murder. I don't know the hearts of the men firing their weapons, but Pat Tillman's brother was there and his attitude must be given great weight. Mr Tillman is obviously very emotional about the loss of is brother, and he fell short from making a charge of murder.
Mark Beaudry When does the testimony of lies told by Officers represent mallace? Inocent until proven is good...consideration for obstruction of justice is also fare. Without proof of reasons to destroy evidrnce, destroying evidence is a crime worthy of consequences in alignment with conspiracy. One doesn't need to prove murder because in fact murder waa committed. How can you deny that fact? The job is not to decide what is fact. The job is to gain the truth of all involved for learning. If learning is not sought than the involved must have acted as planned and accomplished their goal. In summary, destruction of evidence is in fact admitting to accomplishing a goal.
Laura Powers you have conceived your own standard for murder. I don't know what state you come from, but in California the state is required to prove every element of the crime of murder independently and beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no question that lies were told to cover-up something but what that something is has not been proven. No specific intent of murder has been proven in my opinion. Respectively
@@markbeaudry2469 Things continued to change Mr. Beaudry. You don't have all of the facts. Pat's mother went on a mission to find and uncover the truth and she did so. There is a lot of information on the DVD "The Pat Tillman Story". Any one who wants to know the truth should find it somehow and watch it, more than once. There is much information that happens after Kevin Tillman's gut wrenching testimony. And as for proving every element of murder in California if you work in any aspect of the law and you don't realize what a bullshit piece of crap that statement is then you are not paying attention. I worked for a huge law firm in CA and had to work on a death penalty case on behalf of the man convicted who was absolutely innocent. Another case of pinning a murder on a poor uneducated person for money. The Firm had to take the case Pro Bono in keeping with CA State Bar regulations regarding such matters. Ordinarily they would never handle a moneyless case like that. I had a lot of trouble sleeping at night during that business. I was the only one working on it and it deserved at least 3 attorneys working on it, one should have been a partner. I was a paralegal. I have no idea what happened to the man as I was injured on the job and was not able to go back to work there because of the type of injury I had. To try to find that man and speak with him in any way would have been against the rules of the Firm and they could have made my life miserable. Maybe they did the right thing. I told a couple of attorneys there about it and what I thought this man's defense should have been. I hope they got it right but in no way were the 'elements of murder' met in that case.
Thank you Major!
They popped smoke and flares not to mention the Soldiers that murdered them weren't even being shot at from Pat's position. This was straight up murder.
Jsoc
It sounds like it maybe time to boycott starburst candy i have a racist star in my state her name is Angela Starr
to answer your question....because they didnt volunteer. before making idiotic, irrelevant comments you should bear in mind that our military is ALL VOLUNTEER
Pat tillman would have been all about Trump.
Is this a joke?
I'll reply seriously, he would more than likely have been anti both parties.
@Tips4Tat nah he comes from a conservative family. Not many leftists would leave their passion to go to war.
@@anonymous3174
That much I don't doubt, but as someone who labeled the Iraq War completely illegal and had plans to meet Chomsky, I'd have to double down on saying I believe he'd have been anti both.
This is why we need someone who knows about war--someone like John Kerry or Wesley Clark (real American hero) or Chuck Hagel...or even McCain (but he's too much of a flip-flopper)
Gold, Silver, Platinum, Palladium, and . . .
I Served my Country Man. I fucking hated it. 😎
Ate you spying on me? Thinking about the All Seeing Eye multiple dollars better than 1 ten dollar bill? Albor? So you share have the same pain as Johny Andy and Sir Dyno?
"they would work in bursts" i have always eaten starburst and bought them too like Mug Root beer why would Firestone hit me? And Tillman really was a death they still disastrously did not notify myself about. And i want to know when they are talking about this hit disturbingly close to the mark. And no one not one person comes to see or talk with me about this hit that hit disturbingly close to the mark and my dad's name is Mark?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
I waited and chose not to watch despicable me because of this. It was a conscious decision I made and these people steady still ruining themselves and doing fraud everywhere I'm not talking about frauding the system I'm talking real ass; "who are you" fraud.