I've been very impressed with Anker over the years since they started arriving in the UK (mostly low power stuff & USB though). The only issue I've had was a dead USB power pack once, but they replaced that immediately with no quibbling & didn't force me to walk half a mile to return the broken one.
Never quite understood why the established battery brands left the home storage market free for startupd to tqke over. Both Duracell and now Anker are in thr market i think it will pick up quickly dur to brand recognition. Good for them.
@@allan4787 never convinced by any ROI arguments. Most of the time, especially early on in a transition, people install a "thing" just because they want to. Later on it becomes cheaper but even then it's installed because everyone else has one.
I think you are right. When I bought my Tesla or an iPhone etc, I never do an ROI. For the Tesla I did do a TCO and on the servicing side it’s great on depreciation it’s poor or as poor as most other cars. Would that stop me buying it? Of course not, I wanted it and didn’t care the cost
@@user-rc7dg3np9c no one does an ROI on a new kitchen or bathroom. Or even a new boiler. They just need one or decide they want a new one. Why should a battery system be any different?
Not read the specs at this point but the temperature range is pretty standard stuff... for discharging. Always read the fine print. A battery that can't be charged below 0c and is mounted outside isn't a lot of chop in cold countries unless it has self-heating capabilities.
Is it possible to get a 3 phase output from an installation on a single phase supply? I always wanted a 3 phase supply in my garage but installation costs are too expensive.
was looking at Solarwatt Battery flex but i think anker is better like the fact they look good and can be installed outside and have a high ip rating. When do you show a video of a install that in use at a home?
Hard to keep track of which system you think is the best, you produce a new video every week stating this system is a game changer? But just until a new system comes out the following week, then a company invites you to Germany, so obviously this week this is the ultimate system !
Very much enjoy watching a committed sparky. Can you tell me where ANKER is located or how to contact ANKER about supply? The local AUS just seems to want to sell me phone chargers and similar. I seem to remember something about 3 phase with this unit, is that correct?
Assuming you intend to only charge the batteries from your grid supply, it really depends whether the system would charge with only one phase live (from its point of view). If the other two phases appear to be 'missing' my guess is it would probably not interconnect as it would see only one phase live as a fault. If the chosen device (and your installation) was suitable for operation in island mode (aka "off-grid"), then I would say that you could run 3-ph equipment from the battery source BUT it depends what _kind_ of 3-ph equipment you intend to operate. Some loads presenting things like starting currents for rotating machines can be rejected by inverters as they are incapable of delivering the necessary fault level unless they are significantly over-spec.
@@markscheiner3952 Worth working out a comparison of installation versus just investing your money in the "bank" . It's eye opening how long a return takes
Out of interest, for a 5kW inverter what size cable would you need back to fuse board? (assuming a 10m run, and 10kWh battery) Logic says nothing major (2.5mm2), but I guess efficiency matters a lot given number of charge cycles.... Im asking as Id love to know approx complexity of installation (there is already a 6mm2 cable spare in the ceiling void).
Sorry if my ideas are stupid , but the benefits of me being stupid = makes others look good , do you think in the future they would have a solar panel that is linked to a heater such as the floor radiators like they use in a ATA heat pump type so you would have a solar panel for disguised as blinds or shutters which in turn would have a small amount of batteries built into the radiator that would be enough to give out warm or cool air , depending on the time of year , depending on the size of the window and size of the room will dictate the size of battery needed with the radiator. I have three south facing windows plus a front door to the hallway plus a back door both doors south facing, I know the angle on the roof would be better but to capture the sun just enough to give energy for small air radiators you would not need 100% perfect situation, or am I just a thought away from total madness ?
It could work, but as you say the angle on a vertical surface isn't great so the actual solar cells themselves would need to be tilted to compensate for that I think. They can also be quite heavy so blinds might be out of the question. As for now, I've got heat issues (well, heatwave issues really) in my house too & fitted those cellular blinds with aluminium inside and that has made a big difference as a passive solution, in both hot & cold conditions, so I can recommend those if you have tempered glass & trickle vents on your door & window frames already. Without the vents you'll have to leave at least a 10cm gap at the bottom to avoid mould building up, & without the tempered glass you may find your glass cracks due to the extreme heat build-up between it & the blinds. Exterior shutters will do better than anything else available right now if you're able to use those though.
@@nightcatarts I don’t have vents in the windows or doors, I thinking about the flexible panels not the solid one on the roof type but thank for replying.
Offer me a personal view of yours from the admittedly little you will have been to glean given release periods , would you choose tesla3 or the sigenergy whole house you did in last but one . I aiming for whole of house uninterrupted.
In case of mobile internet and Wi-Fi intranet BLACK OUT EMERGENCY. HOW DO YOU INTERFACE WITH THE SOLIX X1? Bluetooth? If not, it is a waste of money imo
It can interface with Home Assistant, so basically you'd set up one of those on a hub connected via Ethernet & then just integrate that with the batteries. You could then use it instead of or alongside the mobile app. You can use small UPS devices to keep your networking equipment and the hub itself online in a full power failure if the Anker batteries themselves & the grid go down, and those can also keep your WiFi up (just without internet).
I don't think you could call anything perfect. Battery technology is changing so quickly at the moment that what you may say is amazing and awesome right now will appear obsolete and average in a 6 months time. Anker make some amazing electronics and their battery technology is awesome and I would definitely choose these over a more closed garden system like a T Powerwall.
I was quoted the following, from a local company in California, on the Solix X1 with tax and labor: 3 battery modules for a total of 15 kW : $20,450 USD before tax credit or rebates 4 battery modules for a total of 20 kW : $25,600 USD before tax credit or rebates 6 battery modules for a total of 30 kW : $35,900 USD before tax credit or rebates 1 power module only has a load start capability of 70 LRA so it will not start up most AC units unless it has a soft starter.
@@Unshou lithium ion, iron, phosphate batteries as cells currently cost from CATL USD 62.00 PER KW. Assembled with management controller and inverter can be found in Alibaba for USD 150 per kw for 15 kw
Had a quick look at the manufacturer's specs on line - all US spec at the moment, which is strange given they were showcasing the device in a European city. Anyway, double-checked the ENA Connect Direct Live Device Register and to date (4th July 2024) it has no certification for use in the UK, yet. Oh, and the manufacturer claims a "switch time" of 20mS - that'll be the time for the switchgear to decouple from the DNO supply and go into island mode **once a loss-of-mains has been detected**, so a wee bit misleading. They're not the first to try this nonsense tbh.
Sure it looks nice, must be high voltage batteries with that footprint. I do wonder if we are compromising safety with these batteries, but have to admit they work better and seem to be quite on the inverter side
Probably to expencive. In a year we will reach 900 pound pr kw to end consumer. This product is fare from that I guess....So it's good looking and not noise 😂 but people don't buy a battery for it's look and I have never heard about noise batterys..
By all accounts this battery looks to be around £650 per kWh which is pretty standard. My 15 kw battery is £360 per kWh so we're already well under £900 per kWh to the end consumer (not including installation).
Another unproven product with no track record. Warrantys are worthless when the company goes bust before your 5 year warranty. Weren't you hawking a couple other brands and one went belly up on you?
Not unproven, plenty of reviews in the states, and a few on YT of this system. Anker are a massive brand, and have been selling portable battery chargers for years.
Agreed, Anka have been around for along time & we’ve powered our kit for years with them. Like the Tesla Wall I think they’re on to a winner here. 👍🙂
I've been very impressed with Anker over the years since they started arriving in the UK (mostly low power stuff & USB though). The only issue I've had was a dead USB power pack once, but they replaced that immediately with no quibbling & didn't force me to walk half a mile to return the broken one.
Never quite understood why the established battery brands left the home storage market free for startupd to tqke over. Both Duracell and now Anker are in thr market i think it will pick up quickly dur to brand recognition. Good for them.
It doesn't pay back your investment, simple as that. They worked it out
@@allan4787 never convinced by any ROI arguments. Most of the time, especially early on in a transition, people install a "thing" just because they want to. Later on it becomes cheaper but even then it's installed because everyone else has one.
I think you are right. When I bought my Tesla or an iPhone etc, I never do an ROI. For the Tesla I did do a TCO and on the servicing side it’s great on depreciation it’s poor or as poor as most other cars. Would that stop me buying it? Of course not, I wanted it and didn’t care the cost
@@user-rc7dg3np9c no one does an ROI on a new kitchen or bathroom. Or even a new boiler. They just need one or decide they want a new one. Why should a battery system be any different?
Not read the specs at this point but the temperature range is pretty standard stuff... for discharging. Always read the fine print. A battery that can't be charged below 0c and is mounted outside isn't a lot of chop in cold countries unless it has self-heating capabilities.
Were there any sodium ion home storage products at the convention you went to?
Is it possible to get a 3 phase output from an installation on a single phase supply? I always wanted a 3 phase supply in my garage but installation costs are too expensive.
The us website says up to 6 modules with 6 batteries each, totalling 180kw is the european variant less capable?
How will it compare on price to a conventional battery?
Price is pretty competitive
I would say it's a beautifil product but I highly doubt in the competitiveness...
Buying a houseand will complete in the next few weeks.... Can't wait to get some solar PV panels and some Anker batteries :D :D
Is there any obvious downsides to thia Anker system? any monthly fees?
was looking at Solarwatt Battery flex but i think anker is better like the fact they look good and can be installed outside and have a high ip rating. When do you show a video of a install that in use at a home?
How do you rate it against Sigenergy?
Hard to keep track of which system you think is the best, you produce a new video every week stating this system is a game changer? But just until a new system comes out the following week, then a company invites you to Germany, so obviously this week this is the ultimate system !
It means none of them are really bad
It's whoever pays the most. This is clearly an advertisement!
sold out to the highest bidder
😂
Very much enjoy watching a committed sparky. Can you tell me where ANKER is located or how to contact ANKER about supply? The local AUS just seems to want to sell me phone chargers and similar. I seem to remember something about 3 phase with this unit, is that correct?
If you only have a single phase electricity supply and put these in could you then run three phase machinery directly off these batteries?
Assuming you intend to only charge the batteries from your grid supply, it really depends whether the system would charge with only one phase live (from its point of view). If the other two phases appear to be 'missing' my guess is it would probably not interconnect as it would see only one phase live as a fault.
If the chosen device (and your installation) was suitable for operation in island mode (aka "off-grid"), then I would say that you could run 3-ph equipment from the battery source BUT it depends what _kind_ of 3-ph equipment you intend to operate. Some loads presenting things like starting currents for rotating machines can be rejected by inverters as they are incapable of delivering the necessary fault level unless they are significantly over-spec.
@@protectiongeek ok thanks. Appreciate the reply. Will look into it more.
@@markscheiner3952
Worth working out a comparison of installation versus just investing your money in the "bank" .
It's eye opening how long a return takes
Why does the display show solar generation as kWh?
When are they expecting to launch it in Europe ?
Later this year
Out of interest, for a 5kW inverter what size cable would you need back to fuse board? (assuming a 10m run, and 10kWh battery) Logic says nothing major (2.5mm2), but I guess efficiency matters a lot given number of charge cycles....
Im asking as Id love to know approx complexity of installation (there is already a 6mm2 cable spare in the ceiling void).
30kilo watt battery 🔋 how much cost?
Sorry if my ideas are stupid , but the benefits of me being stupid = makes others look good , do you think in the future they would have a solar panel that is linked to a heater such as the floor radiators like they use in a ATA heat pump type so you would have a solar panel for disguised as blinds or shutters which in turn would have a small amount of batteries built into the radiator that would be enough to give out warm or cool air , depending on the time of year , depending on the size of the window and size of the room will dictate the size of battery needed with the radiator. I have three south facing windows plus a front door to the hallway plus a back door both doors south facing, I know the angle on the roof would be better but to capture the sun just enough to give energy for small air radiators you would not need 100% perfect situation, or am I just a thought away from total madness ?
It could work, but as you say the angle on a vertical surface isn't great so the actual solar cells themselves would need to be tilted to compensate for that I think. They can also be quite heavy so blinds might be out of the question.
As for now, I've got heat issues (well, heatwave issues really) in my house too & fitted those cellular blinds with aluminium inside and that has made a big difference as a passive solution, in both hot & cold conditions, so I can recommend those if you have tempered glass & trickle vents on your door & window frames already. Without the vents you'll have to leave at least a 10cm gap at the bottom to avoid mould building up, & without the tempered glass you may find your glass cracks due to the extreme heat build-up between it & the blinds. Exterior shutters will do better than anything else available right now if you're able to use those though.
@@nightcatarts I don’t have vents in the windows or doors, I thinking about the flexible panels not the solid one on the roof type but thank for replying.
Can you do a pw3 video ❤
Maybe 🤔
Offer me a personal view of yours from the admittedly little you will have been to glean given release periods , would you choose tesla3 or the sigenergy whole house you did in last but one . I aiming for whole of house uninterrupted.
Could one potentially use it to charge up the battery on cheap rate and then run a high speed AC charger for an EV for fast charging?
High speed AC??
In case of mobile internet and Wi-Fi intranet BLACK OUT EMERGENCY. HOW DO YOU INTERFACE WITH THE SOLIX X1? Bluetooth? If not, it is a waste of money imo
It can interface with Home Assistant, so basically you'd set up one of those on a hub connected via Ethernet & then just integrate that with the batteries. You could then use it instead of or alongside the mobile app. You can use small UPS devices to keep your networking equipment and the hub itself online in a full power failure if the Anker batteries themselves & the grid go down, and those can also keep your WiFi up (just without internet).
0:12 Blimey, stand behind the line!
I don't think you could call anything perfect. Battery technology is changing so quickly at the moment that what you may say is amazing and awesome right now will appear obsolete and average in a 6 months time.
Anker make some amazing electronics and their battery technology is awesome and I would definitely choose these over a more closed garden system like a T Powerwall.
No cost yet in the US
I was quoted the following, from a local company in California, on the Solix X1 with tax and labor:
3 battery modules for a total of 15 kW : $20,450 USD before tax credit or rebates
4 battery modules for a total of 20 kW : $25,600 USD before tax credit or rebates
6 battery modules for a total of 30 kW : $35,900 USD before tax credit or rebates
1 power module only has a load start capability of 70 LRA so it will not start up most AC units unless it has a soft starter.
It is a good system but if it costs more than €150.00 per kw it is too expensive.
150.00 per kw? Tell me where you can get a 15kW battery for under 2000 euros - I'd love to know.
@@Unshou lithium ion, iron, phosphate batteries as cells currently cost from CATL USD 62.00 PER KW. Assembled with management controller and inverter can be found in Alibaba for USD 150 per kw for 15 kw
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Bought 4 Anker GaN power bricks and gave 2 to someone else ... all 4 failed within 1 month ...
Had a quick look at the manufacturer's specs on line - all US spec at the moment, which is strange given they were showcasing the device in a European city.
Anyway, double-checked the ENA Connect Direct Live Device Register and to date (4th July 2024) it has no certification for use in the UK, yet.
Oh, and the manufacturer claims a "switch time" of 20mS - that'll be the time for the switchgear to decouple from the DNO supply and go into island mode **once a loss-of-mains has been detected**, so a wee bit misleading. They're not the first to try this nonsense tbh.
Sure it looks nice, must be high voltage batteries with that footprint. I do wonder if we are compromising safety with these batteries, but have to admit they work better and seem to be quite on the inverter side
The website says its using lfp chemistry.
Is Anker ahead of Tesla home installs
Yet again no costings.
It's not worth the investment when installed.
Probably to expencive. In a year we will reach 900 pound pr kw to end consumer. This product is fare from that I guess....So it's good looking and not noise 😂 but people don't buy a battery for it's look and I have never heard about noise batterys..
By all accounts this battery looks to be around £650 per kWh which is pretty standard. My 15 kw battery is £360 per kWh so we're already well under £900 per kWh to the end consumer (not including installation).
So, get the product into Ukraine to help with their energy infrastructure crisis.
Another unproven product with no track record. Warrantys are worthless when the company goes bust before your 5 year warranty. Weren't you hawking a couple other brands and one went belly up on you?
The guy's a grifter. He'll do anything for money. Definitely gave a few hand shandies to older men when he was 18.
The product is unproven. However the company isn't. Anker a well established company
@@FOOL21352This is Anker of the power banks and chargers fame? If so reliability and quality a a great price is Thier thing.
Anker is a great company. Very highly unlikely they will go bust any time soon. Also there are already home installs if you search on TH-cam.
Not unproven, plenty of reviews in the states, and a few on YT of this system. Anker are a massive brand, and have been selling portable battery chargers for years.
Sell your soul😂