Super Smash Bros Ultimate - The Forgotten Gamemode

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  • @aratherbritishdinosaur
    @aratherbritishdinosaur ปีที่แล้ว +141

    There is a boss rush though, it's called Sephiroth's Classic Mode route.

    • @aaricbro.
      @aaricbro. ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also called World of Light True Final Boss 2nd phase

    • @EyeofKoruption
      @EyeofKoruption ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😭

    • @miscellaneoof
      @miscellaneoof ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A character that you have to pay for to play the boss rush with only them, let’s go!!!

    • @superjumpbros64
      @superjumpbros64 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you can't play any other character unless in multiplayer

    • @matthewdovidas4213
      @matthewdovidas4213 ปีที่แล้ว

      @superjumpbros64 just use a second controller and when sephiroth dies, it doesn't matter you just play the second character

  • @Hamsorr
    @Hamsorr ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I enjoyed world of light for what it was, but I've got to agree with you that it would've been wonderful to see other parts of it (aside from the boss fights) be more fleshed out.
    Also I'm surprised how you didn't point out how spirits were basically a revamped version of stickers from Brawl. They both apply special effects and bonuses to the equipped fight in an exclusive game-mode and they're utilized to represent various characters in addition to (or in the place of) trophies.

  • @jroels2000
    @jroels2000 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I've heard that one of the reasons that there are a lack of cutscenes that were similar to brawl was that Sakurai was concerned of the cutscenes leaking spoilers about the game. I can't remember if that was true or not but it is a shame.

    • @DrunkedOwly
      @DrunkedOwly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't know if it's true, but it's a perfectly avoidable problem, no need to nuke the whole thing, lmao

  • @Oretal
    @Oretal ปีที่แล้ว +32

    World of light really missed the mark 😔
    I was really hoping I could play multiplayer with my brother in that mode like how we did for subspace but I was sad when I found out we couldn’t.
    Also I was expecting coin smash but there’s not much to talk about there tbh.
    Great vid Meatball!

    • @Thenumber1yoshi
      @Thenumber1yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly you never played Smash 4 which Sakurai and his team basically said “f*ck it, we’re not having any Adventure mode in this game!”

    • @Oretal
      @Oretal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thenumber1yoshi I have. It wasn’t relevant to what I said though.
      I was only hoping Ultimate would have a multiplayer story mode when I first heard about spirits from the direct. I wasn’t holding out that the game would have a story mode of any kind when ultimate was announced.

    • @Thenumber1yoshi
      @Thenumber1yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Oretal To be honest I knew expecting another Subspace was unrealistic, I was just hoping for any kind of single player that was better than the subpar offerings from Smash 4’s solo player experiences especially the Wii U version!

  • @juannaym8488
    @juannaym8488 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I sometimes wish they would've just added a extended version of Smash Run from Smash 3DS. That would've been awesome

  • @bryan0925bh
    @bryan0925bh ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I agree a lot with what you said about WoL's overall meh-ness. We probably won't be getting another subspace until nintendo's restrictions on their franchises lessen or someone new other than sakurai heads the series without a deep disdain for youtube cutscene uploads. Also with all of the characters and series represented now? Yeah that's gonna be a tall tall order LOL

    • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
      @crashban4t.f.s.b783 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would Nintendo ruin a franchise? Why would they restrict it? Wtf?

    • @ChaseyWasHere
      @ChaseyWasHere ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crashban4t.f.s.b783dude, Nintendo just does that, as long as they get money, they don’t really care.

    • @olympusgolemoflight7198
      @olympusgolemoflight7198 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair the Sakurai, the cutscenes were leaked before the game came out.

    • @Thenumber1yoshi
      @Thenumber1yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

      Or they could just do what they did in Smash 4 and say f* ck it and not include any kind of Adventure mode at all!

  • @Noved0321
    @Noved0321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:33 I see you sneakily hiding Bandys Universe, best crossover, and also great video mate, more support coming your way

  • @eaglejunior
    @eaglejunior ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next time someone asks me what a "spoiled brat" is, I'll direct them to this video.

  • @SmashSSL
    @SmashSSL ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agree with literally everything
    Great job, you explained all of this better than I could have
    Heres hoping next game has something more fun

  • @jordandillardthememeboi
    @jordandillardthememeboi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really hope if and when we get Smash 6 we get a similar story like Brawl with the characters interacting in cutscenes but the levels like in Melee where you visit the worlds of the characters to stop the evil. I also wished that we just got a separate mode called "Master Hand mode" where just like World of light you play as Master hand in a wave of characters

  • @col.choros3966
    @col.choros3966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't even have to watch to know that he's going to talk about Coin Smash.
    Nevermind.

  • @Probably_JENOVA
    @Probably_JENOVA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with everything expressed in this video. I feel the exact same way about World of Light. During the Smash 4 Era, if I foresaw that the story mode for the next Smash game was going to be underwhelming and mediocre, then I would prefer to just not have a story mode at all, as disappointing as that would also be like how it felt when Smash 4 was confirmed to not include a story mode. With Ultimate, they did prioritize the roster over the single player content so if you were to play Ultimate and didn’t like World of Light, the Spirits Mode, don’t have family/friends who neither have the time nor interest into playing the game with you, and you’re a casual non-competitive player, then Ultimate is going to be pretty lonely and you would likely move on from it more sooner than later after completing the roster and adding the DLC fighters. At least, that’s how Ultimate is like for me.
    After the main roster, updates, and the fighter’s passes were complete, I moved on. Although I was glad that the fighter’s pass had finally ended so that the fanbase wouldn’t be acting all that toxic and crazy about it (having different sides dissing each other, crapping on each other, at war with one another and insulting each other because THAT WAS A REALLY FUN EXPERIENCE, DEFINITELY MADE ME FEEL PROUD TO BE A SMASH FAN AND BOTHER TO STICK AROUND FOR THAT LONG WITHOUT BECOMING ALL DEPRESSED AND BITTER ABOUT IT AND HATING MYSELF TO THE POINT OF IT CONTRIBUTING TO THE THOUGHTS OF HARMING AND GAME OVERING MYSELF EVEN AFTER IT WAS ALL OVER) for any longer, I didn’t really have a good reason to stick around for much longer. Everything just felt still and lifeless, just like how all the fighters returned to being trophies once again and everything was dark at the beginning of Sora’s reveal trailer. To think that Super Smash Bros, with its most recent installment would literally make me feel like some depressed and lonely child who’s stuck in their room for most of their life. It’s not like the Smash Community itself acts as any kind of motivation to stick around for much longer…You would be more mentally healthier and happier being outside of that cursed community. I…I still feel bitter to this very day that I feel like I hate everything about it now even when I don’t actually hate everything associated with Ultimate.

  • @Thenumber1yoshi
    @Thenumber1yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

    Meatball: “Complaining about World of Light”
    Me: Remembers Smash 4 where Sakurai basically said “F*ck it we’re not having any kind of adventure mode in this game!”

  • @chompythebeast
    @chompythebeast ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I unlocked all the Spirits and trained all the best ones in every single style
    I don't think I've played with them in fights outside single player Spirit Board or World of Light more times than I could count on my hands lol

  • @Morbfan6189
    @Morbfan6189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Think Smash Ultimates Biggest Missed Opportunity Is To Have Spider-Man Be The Last Character Added To The Game

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Squad strike and smashdown being local only still upsets me

  • @ZizZap4
    @ZizZap4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually loved Spirit mode. It's definitely not the first thing that comes to my mind, but when I got smash + my switch in college I was taking my switch with me to tackle a few spirit battles here and there between classes for a while.

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love your videos man, every single one is an absolute banger!
    Also the Map of WoL is way to bright compared to the characters, which together with how they scaled the map and characters makes my eyes strain just from watching the footage.

    • @Probably_JENOVA
      @Probably_JENOVA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      World of Light is too bright compared to the characters? Talk about taking the light in World of Light too literally. Hilariously fitting.

    • @lordnul1708
      @lordnul1708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try turning down the brightness. It'll also make your battery last longer and make other games look the way they should.
      I know because I play on higher brightness compared to my friends.

  • @zOOpygOOpert
    @zOOpygOOpert ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:59 if you go to a spirit in your inventory, and look at their art, pressing + will take you to their fight

  • @noahrules7146
    @noahrules7146 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    smash bros true forgotten mode is coin mode

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smash Run needs to return

  • @daxwolf455
    @daxwolf455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes world of light
    also I too 100 percented it at launch

  • @Gordan1Freeman3
    @Gordan1Freeman3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, World of Light, the poor man's Subspace. World of Light is... fine, as a game mode. I go back to it every now and then to chip away at the board, but it's not something I got sucked into and could play for hours on end like Subspace. I know everyone loves the cutscenes from Subspace, but I genuinely loved the gameplay as well, turning a 2D platform fighter into a side scrolling beatem up is genius. If World of Light was built more like Melee's adventure mode with Subspace's scale, it would have been so much better IMO

  • @Mr_Mimestamp
    @Mr_Mimestamp ปีที่แล้ว

    2:32 small correction, they were announced in the November 1st Direct, after being teased at the end of the August 8th Direct.

  • @TheRealZXXZ
    @TheRealZXXZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason why there isn't a proper boss rush because once you make it available outside Story Mode, there won't be a reason to replay the mode.
    They didn't want that kind of mistake to be repeated again as that happened with Brawl, as people aren't too clicked with the mode beyond cutscene. (Especially Great Maze)

    • @elmaionesosexo
      @elmaionesosexo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      still bs, a Boss Rush had so much potential with the amount of bosses in the game

  • @Celestial914
    @Celestial914 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:33 Laughs in Super Robot wars.

  • @BowserwithaShotgun
    @BowserwithaShotgun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing the talk of WoL actually made me think of something similar but different, the Subspace Emissary 2 memes. You know the ones that are just shitposts with captions saying characters doing things? The ones that gave personality to a hypothetical true sequel to the Subspace Emissary as it had characters bouncing off of each other's personalities and whatnot? Man I miss those a bit as they were charming.

  • @BlusterTheBenevolent
    @BlusterTheBenevolent ปีที่แล้ว

    We will never get Subspace 2 without it eating up an ungodly amount of development time, at the cost of more characters.

  • @Xpancakes11X
    @Xpancakes11X ปีที่แล้ว

    Hearing a lot of Plok music in the background. I'm always happy when I hear plok jams.

  • @nelsondfg211
    @nelsondfg211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YEEEEEESSS!!!!! NEW MEATBALL VIDEOOOO

  • @Austar7
    @Austar7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nah man, Pyra and Mythra are really fun to play as. If anything, Byleth was the worst addition. Not hating on him, his moveset is kinda fun, it was just bad timing to reveal him honestly.

    • @MetaGamingDojo
      @MetaGamingDojo ปีที่แล้ว

      Byleth moveset can be pretty busted tools if used right.

  • @SCrafter1234
    @SCrafter1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    the possibilities they couldve done with the dlc was missed so hard too. there arent even any mini areas you could go to to collect the dlc spirits, theyre all just in the dlc spirit board to just challenge like any spirit. And dlc is just handed to you after you complete the first 5 or so minutes of world of light, not even that far into the game, barely any effort to need to unlock them

  • @zedtheprotogamer4409
    @zedtheprotogamer4409 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:08 "untill the next game" a nice thought... but not happening when you find out that Masahiro Sakurai didn't even want to get as far as melee, he wanted to be done after 64, then fans loved it and obsessed over it so he agreed to make melee, then ended up making brawl hoping it would be the last one, sameneith wii u, and now ultimate. He's not making another, that's why the dlc characters are basically his way of saying "fuck you all here's some broken bs to ruin the game!"

  • @proxy7598
    @proxy7598 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really good video!
    It's always good seeing a meatball upload
    Can't wait for you to rant about fandoms next ;]

  • @ryanburke5549
    @ryanburke5549 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear Plok music. I approve immensely 👍

  • @Docile_Pillow
    @Docile_Pillow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video rules!!!!!!! good juice!!!

  • @JUMPYCOOL
    @JUMPYCOOL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember Spirits. I’m a 2 for 2 World Of Light Nuzlocker!

  • @ZizZap4
    @ZizZap4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:50 four typings, not 3. There was a colorless one that had no weaknesses but also no strengths. They also usually didn't have many abilities and just relied on their raw stats. Ofc they don't fit into the rock-paper-scissord dynamic so were never rlly highlighted.

  • @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8
    @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Babe wake up new Meatball video

  • @AH-uz3fx
    @AH-uz3fx ปีที่แล้ว

    Well written and edited video, but Spirts is half as forgotten as Master Orders and 10% as StreetSmash

  • @courtneyevie
    @courtneyevie ปีที่แล้ว

    the true forgotten gamemode is the sephiroth challenge

  • @wantedasylum1091
    @wantedasylum1091 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there is a Smash 6, it NEEDS to be a soft reboot. Pull a Toy Story 3, if Sakurai has to.

  • @thurstt9158
    @thurstt9158 ปีที่แล้ว

    we got robbed of subspace 2

  • @janko1
    @janko1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    World of light is epic imo

  • @PJBgamer
    @PJBgamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I did enjoy World Of Light to an extent, I agree that the Story Mode could have been so much better. Subspace Emissary left some pretty big shoes to fill.

  • @ehe951
    @ehe951 ปีที่แล้ว

    ayyyyyyy i hear that plok boss theme in there

  • @mariopokemon955
    @mariopokemon955 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i am the only person who absolutely adored world of light

  • @M4N14C4L
    @M4N14C4L ปีที่แล้ว

    There is more than just world of light

  • @scoffeex1740
    @scoffeex1740 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:47 they made it possible to refight any spirit through the Collection tab in the Min Min update

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wish the spirits had descriptions that explain the character like the Trophies.

  • @BlueJack222
    @BlueJack222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest I don't think they were able to do cutscenes for 70 plus characters at once

  • @Thatskilledroy
    @Thatskilledroy ปีที่แล้ว

    ur brother showed me this vid and it’s lit dawg

  • @Erick_S.F
    @Erick_S.F ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i actually did like world of light, the only thing i didn't like was not being able to play it multiplayer with someone.

  • @ghoulthedamned5940
    @ghoulthedamned5940 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what game mode was truly forgotten in my opinion...Boss Rush. Like the one game where it would make sense to have it it's just NOT THERE! Just a bad platforming level with all the bosses at the end. (Edit: Watched farther in and the same point is brought up in video.]

  • @waffledog7756
    @waffledog7756 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyyy happy to see you uploading a new video! 🤗

  • @rileysoflesbian1471
    @rileysoflesbian1471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HEY TAKE THAT ENDING BACK!!!

  • @domdollahyt
    @domdollahyt ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah that last line was true

  • @sygiliph2495
    @sygiliph2495 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main issues with Spirits and World of Light:
    1: Spirits are just... so bland. A full 3D model with actual info on a character was so cool! Now it's just fucking PNGs that I can get by just googling a character's name.
    2: World of Light was just slogging through a bunch of stupid battles on a bland ass map. I somehow 100%ed the entire World of Light and it got to a point where I was just running around three big ass maps trying to find the last dickhead I forgot to kill.
    3: the bosses. Good lord, the only two/three that were actually good were Marx, Ganon and Dracula. Marx was at least like his actual in-game battle but the place you fight him in has NOTHING to do with Milkyway Wishes or even Kirby at all, Ganon actually kept his OoT weakness, and Dracula was actually fun. Giga Bowser is the most boring fucking thing ever (seriously, just give us an actual Bowser boss from the actual games and not just "Bowser but big and ugly"), Rathalos was a snoozefest and Galeom was... eh. Oh, and the final bosses you had were ASS. Lemme fight bosses from more franchises! Lemme fight Ridley! Lemme fight King K. Rool! Lemme fight Metal Face (I don't care for Xenoblade but fighting Metal Face in the Xenoblade stage is genuinly fun)! Gimme actual bosses!

  • @scoffeex1740
    @scoffeex1740 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:27 Boss Rush is easier to access with Sephiroth's Classic Mode, for other characters to play it just use Player 2

  • @Tanker619
    @Tanker619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Squad strike is so forgotten it ani’t even in this video

    • @babyjeff
      @babyjeff ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeahhh 💀and it isnt even a bad mode its pretty fun

    • @Tanker619
      @Tanker619 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@babyjeff Fr

  • @SnailMakesMusic
    @SnailMakesMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I love spirits and use them frequently

  • @glass153
    @glass153 ปีที่แล้ว

    you deserve more subscribers

  • @7grandmac
    @7grandmac ปีที่แล้ว

    2:32 You mean November 1st? The game hadn’t even been announced by January 8th.

  • @dimitriwarchief301
    @dimitriwarchief301 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn’t argee more. Heck I think we all can argee. We lose iconic trophies for lame ads spirit stuff. With only like what. One thing kinda cool (Zamus shantae) and that pain Pauline

  • @jedicraftmaster2426
    @jedicraftmaster2426 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the content keep it up!

  • @babyjeff
    @babyjeff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn i liked your previous videos but i really can't get behind this one, sadly. it wasn't really well researched (for instance, all spirits you currently have can be refought in the collection, you don't have to use the spirit board for that) and didn't even attempt to address any reasons people might like the spirit approach as opposed to trophies, instead just bringing up previous entries and subspace constantly. spirits allow the game to cover a much wider scope of characters, and instead of a description which either spoils the character's game or gives the player information they likely already know, spirits have unique fights that can emulate and reference specific parts of a character's background or series without spoiling or confusing players unfamiliar with the character. there are genuine points of criticism with spirits and WoL, like the multiplayer option to use spirits that feels unfair and an afterthought and even the lack of story which you brought up, but this video feels like it barely scratches the surface of meaningful analysis.

  • @Deca769
    @Deca769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ngl wega actually took me offguard lol

  • @XeroNeroZero
    @XeroNeroZero ปีที่แล้ว

    the reason world of light turned out like this is due to idiots posting the cut scenes from brawl on youtube.

    • @Thenumber1yoshi
      @Thenumber1yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

      Me: Remembers Smash 4 where Sakurai basically said “F*ck it! We’re not having any kind of adventure mode in this game!”

  • @Keys60_
    @Keys60_ ปีที่แล้ว

    world of light is an unnecessary lock behind changing the menu music imo

  • @Atomic_Psychosis
    @Atomic_Psychosis ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay meatball back

  • @LforL-c5w
    @LforL-c5w ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls keep uploading

  • @dimitriwarchief301
    @dimitriwarchief301 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t imagine. ANYONE. Playing with spirits …. It’s just. No. No

  • @condimentman9533
    @condimentman9533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well its funny how spirits would have been saved if it was like brawl

  • @daniellejackson6543
    @daniellejackson6543 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:34 What is the one at the bottom middle?

  • @fernandoportal5422
    @fernandoportal5422 ปีที่แล้ว

    World of light isn't great but is not that bad

  • @GhabulousGhoti
    @GhabulousGhoti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wish they hadn't spent dev time on the Spirits tbh. The game has some really rough edges and some character models (such as Shulk, Zero Suit Samus, etc.) and animations that look kind of unfinished to me, and had they cut the time on a boring side mode that no one liked to instead polish up the rest of the game, I feel like we'd have a much better product :(

  • @41dn
    @41dn ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you put in wega😭

  • @YaBoiLukie
    @YaBoiLukie ปีที่แล้ว

    6:53 what song is this?

  • @theguy1000-1
    @theguy1000-1 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 videos and you have 3820 subs

  • @VoicesInYourHeadphones
    @VoicesInYourHeadphones ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Meatball

  • @jedisquidward
    @jedisquidward ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it's easy to write a TH-cam comment as opposed to actually putting in the work to make a video, but this video is kind of the prime example of "I need something to talk about for ten minutes so here you go". It's not at all "wrong" to dislike any part of a game, and we can't use behind the scenes stories as an excuse for a shoddy product, but this video is made with such a narrow mindset that there's basically no point to it. "WoL would have been better if it was like Subspace." "Spirits would have been better if they had trophy descriptions." ..well, yeah, you're not wrong, but development resources, be it time, manpower, or money, are limited. Things can only go so far. It's like me saying "The game has 82 characters. It should have had 120 characters". I guess so, but that's not really feasible, is it? That's not really a statement which takes anything into account other than raw desire, which can extend to any imaginable point. It would have been a lot more interesting if you personally stated more as to WHY you didn't like these choices or tried to analyze on some level why it didn't work. As it stands now, this video is really just a list of the things that the mode is made up of, with a blank statement of "It's good", "It's bad", "It's underwhelming", etc applied to each.

  • @SmashSSL
    @SmashSSL ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish WoL wasn't so... boring
    It completely had a chance to be worth existing but it missed the mark

  • @tima8495
    @tima8495 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎶 *Promo SM*

  • @54nnu
    @54nnu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    first

    • @yuvalamor6668
      @yuvalamor6668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ow come on

    • @54nnu
      @54nnu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yuvalamor6668 common yuval amor L