First Ride After Updating my Nami Klima Max at Fluidfreeride | eScooter POV [4K]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Season 2 Episode 14 (2024)
Join me as I test the recent changes to my Nami Klima Max that FFR in BK and we'll see if we finally resolved some of the issues I've been having. This was a fun ride so I hope you enjoy it so sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.
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I had a crash so I could have time to make a video. Do you think I could keep up with your scooter bro.? th-cam.com/video/ZrDCccFpPUU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jqOtar3IeO_EEP0F
I just preordered a klima from fluidfreeride I hope the rear taillight is the updated version ships 1st week July I can't wait to get it. Thank you for your reviews
thanks for watching and welcome to the channel Matthew! Congratulations on ordering the Klima. It's a great scooter and I hope you enjoy the heck out it! I believe every scooter they had was the second generation, I actually had to go and hunt for the first generation lol
I know exactly how excited you are about having your scooter back. I'm going through the same thing right now. I'm waiting on some fuses to come in so I can recharge mine. So Herbie is down for the count right now, and I HATE it! Not bad though, almost 1600 miles and this is the first and only issue I've had other than the flat tires. I missed the group ride yesterday, and that really hit the heart. Lol... a Super 73 out in the wild. Ride That Tasty Wave
thanks for joining us, I hope that your scooter will be up and running soon! Missing a group ride because of that really does suck. I'm not sure where yall are in you're riding season but I hope you got a few more coming up. 1 issue in 1600 miles is an absolute dream, congrats!
As much as I enjoy my s73 and my board, my baby and favorite will always be my scooter!
I think old tail light looks much better than the cheap looking new version.
thanks for watching this video as well! I agree, that's why I purchased the Gen 1 Klima. Unfortunately, that decision just made my life more difficult lol. I would've preferred to keep it that way but, I'd rather have the brake sensors/ regen brakes working instead of having the LED strip!
*I see the weather is improvin there too* 👀
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yessssssiiiirrrrr it is! Atleast for the recording it was lol. It actually rained really heavy that night and I couldn't record my "shredlights night ride" video I had planned. The temperature/weather has been a bit erratic too. In the morning it'll be 40 degrees F (4 degrees C) and for the ride home it'll be 70 degrees F (21 degrees C). In between we'll have a thunderstorm for an hour and have perfect weather for a few hours and then have a few thunderstorms after. NYC really wild right now lol
I'd think you'd enjoy riding a emoto. I commute to work everyday on my Klima (not Max) and do love it to death but it's rainy season now down under and I work in a dusty industrial area and the roads are 80km/h (49mph) and dodging trucks, fist sized boulders on the bike lane and sizable wet puddles I think the E Ride Pro SS 2.0 suits my needs. It's coming early next month and I can't wait. Love your videos, mate!
thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Jason! I'm glad you've been enjoying you're time on the channel, I appreciate the support.
I think I would really enjoy riding an eMoto as well, however, I haven't taken the plunge on them yet because those PEV's are in a precarious position in NYC. If I lived outside of NYC and had a home with a garage, I would've probably gotten one by now and registered it so I can ride legally. I've also looked into getting a "proper" eMoto like a Ryvid Anthem, but I have to wait until I finalize my Motorcycle License. Work has been so crazy that I haven't been able to make time to go and finalize that at the Department of Motor Vehicles in the city. They're so slow over and it's such a miserable experience, that it can reall take up your whole morning/ afternoon lol.
I feel like braking hard is not a particulary great test as I've had the lockup happen while riding at 30 MPH. But keep updated on whether or not the update remedies the solution
thanks for joining us for the video! I'll definitely keep ya'll posted. Honestly, I thought it was a good test because I only got the brake sensor issue when using the ebrakes and or when braking really hard. It would basically stick until I backed out the sensor. Thankfully, I've never gotten it at speed! That would freak me the hell out with how strong ebraking is
@@eyebahnrides Yeah I was lucky it happened after an intersection upon entering a bike path. As scary as it was, the suspension and smoothness of the brakes didn't send me over the handlebars or anything.
Hey from Australia. I just ordered a KLIMA. Any chance you could ride around and show off NYC. Would love to watch exploring footage.
Cheers
thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome to the channel! First congrats on your new scooter, enjoy the heck out it. There's a ton of video of me running around NYC so feel free to check them out. There's some, ebike, escooter, and eboard videos so I hope you enjoy them!
If you reach out to Micheal Shar he also does the front turn signals and upgraded main cable, I also changes my springs out on the Klima to 2000lbs ones
I just upgraded my stocks on my burn e to fz 2000lb fells alot better
thanks for watching Imperial! I'll probably reach out to him soon. I was just waiting to see what people thought of the turn signals before picking it up. I didn't want to have issue now that I finally have the Klima running perfectly! I'll look into the springs as well. Thanks for the suggestion!
The signals ait abit too close to the handle bars, i 3d printed an adaptor to move them lower, hit me up if you want stl
I don’t like that the lights are on all the time on the turn signals.
Thanks
thank you for the support Craig! I appreciate ya 👊🏼.
All the ad revenue and the super thanks are currently going into a fund to help with the upgrading of my main camera (hopefully this new Insta360 that's being announced is what I'm looking for) and one day help with a Macbook Pro for editing/ work!
As always thanks for the video; interesting tidbit: I own a first generation Klima and luckily have only had to switch out the brake sensor once, right after I first got it. Rode all of last season and no issues once switched. I’m hoping this doesn’t eventually creep up. Also, not sure if you done this before but would you mind sharing your P settings on your Klima?
thanks for joining us for this ride! I was kind of hoping that I would've had the same experience as you lol. Unfortunately, I ended up having to swap to the new taillight after 3 sensor changes. I'm hoping it doesn't creep up on you and you can continue to enjoy the aesthetics of the light strip!
All my modes are basically stock except for my "C" Custom Commute Setting
front motor accel 3
rear motor accel 5
Output 90/90
Max Speed 90
engine braking 4
turbo 3
That is my preferred commute setting. X mode is just maxed out including engine braking
I hope this helps!
Does the change of the tail lights covered by warranty since it's a factory defect? Because I'm also having turn signal issues with it and occasional brake sensor issues even with the new sensors.
Also, are you looking into getting the front turn signal/daytime running light kit?
thanks for joining us for this ride! Personally, I had to pay for this upgrade and I did so willingly. The reason is, I declined to purchase a Gen2 version of the Klima Max that was available at FFR at the time despite their warnings. I also knowingly purchased the Gen1 that was known to have the issue because I hated the rear fender so much and I was just praying I wouldn't have it lol.
I had my sensors replaced 3 times before I did the tail light upgrade. I'm not sure what it is about the LED strip but I've read in the forums that it's basically the source of all the issues lol. I'll keep yall posted if this update finally resolved the issue like I was told it would.
I'm thinking about getting the front turn signal and the DTR light but I'm just waiting to see how that works out for those getting it. I finally got the Klima to where it's perfect and I don't want to accidentally add a new issue lol
I bought my Nami Burn E 2 Max with the version 2 with taillights and nfc reader. I like it. Also upgraded to finger throttle. Much better
Thanks for watching and great choice getting the latest iteration of the scooter. Saves you the headache of dealing with the issues that they took care of with the changes lol.
Ooooo which finger throttle did you end up going for with?
@@eyebahnrides I ended going with the polish finger throttle (Michael Sha wanted close to $100 for his version. I got 2 for half the price total). I bought 2 just in case something happens to one. Much better, as you know, securely riding with the thumb wrapped around the bar where it should just feels right. That along with the PMT tires I'm good to go! 🛴💨
@@cocoabiscuitshi! where did you get the polish finger throttle from?
@@gokaygs ebikestuff(.)eu
Been watching your channel for a while now.
I am torn between the Nami Burn E-2 and the Klima. I am 6’3 and 270 lbs, and live where it’s pretty hilly. Guessing I need to just buy the Burn E-2 for the added size and power.
Comes down to if you need to carry the scooter, if not burn e, if so klima max. i picked uo the burn e love it
thanks for watching the video and welcome to the comments section Truth, I appreciate your support. In my opinion, I would go E2 since you're a taller and heavier person. You'll be more comfortable to the larger deck of the E2 and the tuning of that 72v system will give you more performance. I've gotten used to the smaller deck of the Klima but I was struggling to get used to it coming from the Burn E and I'm only 5'8 205 lbs.
I hope this helps!
The motor controllers also on the line for the motor brake . They are adjustable with the regen . It should be adjustable in many levels, and types of levels at different speeds.
Yup, I got them dialed in depending on the mode I’m using but I couldn’t access it because of the issues with the sensor. I’m so happy to have the motor braking again 🙏🏼
That's so weird that the light was the issue. I had the same brake lockup problem with the zooz but it was a sensor issue inside the lever mechanism.
thanks for watching! Yea man, it's so weird that the source of the issue was the tail light. My buddy Ed and I think it has to do with the way the chip/ wiring interacted with the sensor. We actually replaced the sensor in the lever itself 3 times and it never resolved it. But this seemed to have done the job.
But we'll see!
The rear light strip just stopped working on my Klima, i paid a bit more for the new fender with light and the brake sensor issue is gone too.
It's also VERY bright, gotta remember to turn it off if i have to run from the cops.
I also bought some PVC glue and stuck the fender from the back onto the front fender to make it longer so it throws the water coming from the tyre downwards to the road and not up in front.
(got that trigger throttle too).
thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome back to the comments section! I'm glad to hear that you the new fender/light set got you all sorted out. They're definitely incredibly bright so it's really hard to miss.
Damnnnn.... i didn't think of doing that with the fender! Let me check with my guys to see if they still have my old fender. I hate dealing with the water spray.
How do you like the "polish throttle"?
@@eyebahnrides Hi again.
The next best thing to riding my own Klima, is watching other people do it and having fun.
The new throttle is for sure better than the stock thumb throttle, it has a bit too much dead zone for my liking, but because i have PAS functtion turned off, it's maybe better that way, so i'm not going to tinker with it.
I've thought sometimes that it has a bit of creep too, getting a bit faster, even though my finger is steady but i would think that would come from the controller and not the throttle.
I think optimum would be a twist throttle, can't find a three pin HAL throttle anywhere though.
The mudguards (fenders over there) have been a "work in progress" since i got the scooter,
I've put a rubber bicycle fender extender on the bottom of the front one to keep the bottom of the battery box cleaner.
Put a little square bit of truck tarpaulin over the gap between the two back ones.
And now, stuck the extra one from the back onto the front one to make it longer, so that it points downwards towards the ground.
I've noticed that my new semi-offroad tyres throw up a lot less water than the stock "almost slicks" when it rains too, which is a positive side-effect.
Keep on keepin on
McSlaine.
We all probably had these issues. I also got rid of the lightstrip and mounted the ugly new lights. I was wondering how your settings look like concerning the regen break. The weakest? Hardest? Inbetween?
thanks for joining us on this ride! Apologies for the delayed reply again. Things are currently very hectic over here and I'm finally catching up with TH-cam!
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that you had to change to the ugly tail lights but I'm happy to hear that you'll finally be able to ride with some peace of mind. My regen/ motor braking is always on the higher side because I like the way it helps me stop sooner. Generally the higher the setting the higher my regen. For example, I have it set on 5 on X mode where all my settings are maxed. I have it set on 4 on C mode where it's dropped down a little. I have it set on 3 on S mode where everything is somewhere in the middle.
I hope this helps!
Dont u miss the Burn e max Ivan, regarding Klima Max is great and did u have pmt tires on?
thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome back! I don't really miss the Burn E all too much from a performance stand point. The only thing that I miss from the Burn E is the deck and the suspension lol. But over a 1000 miles later, its a distant memory and I really love the Klima Max! It's a perfect midsize highperformance commuter. I had PMTs on the Burn E. I have the stock CST tires on the Klima and they're actually really good lol. I almost have no intention of changing to PMTs unless I win a free set!
Does the newest version of the Klima have problems with the brake sensors? Also, do they get flats frequently? That's my 2 concerns, I wish they have self healing tires so I don't have to worry about flats. If the problems are still not fixed, I'd go with the Phantom V4X
thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome to the channel Tri. Apologies for the delayed response. Life has been pretty crazy lately but I'm finally catching up with TH-cam.
The newest (2nd generation) Klimas don't have the issues with the brake light. Apparently the LED strip was causing some type of issue with the brake sensors so replacing them fixed the issue completely. The 2nd generation Klimas will all have the new rear fender with the integrated tail light and that's great news for all the owners. As stated in the video, I feel a bit silly for choosing the "cool looks" of the Gen 1 Klima with LED brake lights over a fixed Gen 2.
As for flats, Im not sure how "puncture resistant" the CST tires are compared to others. I've only gotten one flat over the last 1300 miles and that's because I ran over a nail that was placed in the bike path to do harm. Luckily, I had Armor Dilloz and it held up long enough to get me to a shop. I had to change PMT tires 4 times over 2000 miles when I had them on the burn E. I've also heard of "self healing" tires not really working from the Wolf Warrior guys so it's hard to tell what works and what doesnt. That type of thing really comes down to the areas that you ride in. 99% of the time I'm riding on roads/ bike paths.
I hope this helps!
Just curious what you're average moving speed/ commute range is, and what range would you expect at 25mph average? Really just trying to decide between the klima or burn e max for the extra battery
thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome back to the comments section. I average about 10 miles per day on a round trip commute to the city. On that ride, I average between 15-25mph with occasional opportunities to do 40mph. There's also a lot of stop and go because of the city traffic. With all that said, I use about 20-25% battery per day. At around 210lbs with gear and my bag full for work, I get about 40-50miles of real world commuting. With the original Burn E, I averaged about the same because I also pushed harder since the scooter was capable of more lol. With more self control, I'm sure I could've gotten more.
I hope this helps!
I see you got the Bret Hart sunglasses on, I’m the fastest there is, the fastest there was and fastest there ever will be 🤣. Excellent video.
You know it 😂. That’s why when I saw the shades I had to have it 🙏🏼. I needed to be the best there is, was, and ever will be on TH-cam 😎😎😎
@@eyebahnrides Now you need a scooter called Sharpshooter or Nami Klima Sharpshooter Max 🤣
Nice to meet you eyebahn its Tek lol Ted( do I look like a pot smoking bear 😅😅)
thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. I've never seen a pot smoking bear before but I'm sure it's a hell of a sight lol
Go watch the movie (Ted) .. you'll know. For me after watching it. I can't look at people called Ted the same 😂 😂
@eyebahnrides do you ride your klima in the rain?
I havnt seen vids of him riding in the rain but definitely when it's still wet out.
thanks for watching! Yup I definitely do ( not heavy downpours though). Check out my 750 mile review. I threw some footage in to that one.
I want a nami klima.. But I’m scared that stem might snap. I know the issues was with the Burne max. I also know that they started releasing a steel stem for the wheel to swap out the aluminum one. (The one that was snapping.)
Anyway I really I want a Klima. I’m just scared shitless that the stem might snap while I’m riding.
Any thoughts?
thanks for joining us and welcome to the channel Danny. As a person that works in the sale of fine mechanical products, I always tell everyone to take what you read and see online with a grain of salt. There bits of information that are generally omitted or lied about when it comes to mechanical failure. I had my OG Burn E for almost 4000 miles and 3000 of those miles I had the aluminum steering column. I take care of my scooters but I'm also very hard on them because it gets exposed to everything that NYC can throw at it including rain, snow, pot holes, subzero temperatures, blistering hot summers, and everything else in between. With that said, I've never encountered any issues with the scooter. I don't believe that a thick piece of aluminum or steel will "just snap out of nowhere". Now I'm not saying that your fear is invalid. I'm just saying that you have to take into account that there could be abuse and alot of stress applied to those parts. A scooter can't make up for a rider's inability to learn a proper ride posture that doesn't put stress on the stem nor can it survive repeated abuse from doing stupid things.
Just like with anything, you should have little to no problem if you take care of the scooter and if you ride with a balanced riding posture. I've seen Gen1 Burn E with 20000+ miles on them and I've seen klimas with close to 10000 miles on them because they're cared for like a proper vehicle. I think the biggest problem we have as a community is anyone can ride these high powered machines as long as you have the money. Some folks treat it like disposable toys and don't take the time to learn how to properly ride it. They then turn to the forums to complain that "how can an expensive product fail me when I barely did anything to it."
The Nami scooters can handle most things that a rider can throw at it. As long as you maintain it, you'll be ok.
I hope this helps
Does fluid ship to finland?
I don't think they do because the cost of shipping from the US would be extremely expensive. Your best bet for securing a scooter would be finding an EU/ UK based distributor like @rideglide. It'll be more cost effective to ship to you since they're thousands of miles closer!
5AM is nothing, I'm up at 4 and out the door at 430.
yup, it definitely depends on the routine though. For me, I'm up at 6am every day so its tough to wake up early especially if I was up late the night before working on TH-cam stuff.
What light mount is that you have halfway down the steering post? Looking for something similar for my Klima.
thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome to the channel Fredrick! It's a kiddie bar from CarbonRevo. I believe you can order them from their website directly. However, I purchased mine from a local shop called Last Mile NYC. They have some of the carbonrevo products there for scooters.
How do you like your Klima vs some of the other 72v scooters you’ve ridden? Pros vs cons
thanks for watching! Honestly, the Nami Klima keeps up with the best of them. From a torque and acceleration standpoint, it definitely doesn't leave you wanting. You only really feel like you want more when you hit the 36-43 mph zone and you're trying to keep up with faster PEVs, but for everyday commuting it's perfect. Initially, i thought the power delivery is a bit jumpy compared to something like the original Nami Burn E that I had. I felt like I had better control over the Burn E at lower speeds with all the settings maxed out on X mode. However, overtime, I feel like I have the same control over the Klima. It just took a few hundred miles to get used to. Despite that, I think the Klima inspires alot of confidence in the ride with how stable it is and how easy it is to get used to. The only real thing that I miss from the bigger 72v beasts is the size of the deck and the larger tires.
I enjoy the Klima so much that I haven't even thought about going back to a 72v scooter. When we move to a home and I have a garage or I find a garage to rent here in NYC, I may add a 72v scooter to the fleet. That scooter will most likely only be used for long range high speed group rides.
@@eyebahnrides Very cool... Thank you for the reply. I have Klima with 1400 or so miles... Really enjoy it... I only wish it had a larger battery and bigger tires... But other than that it's pretty much perfect IMO.
Do you mind let me know what is the name/brand of throttle you using? I am considering replacing the original thumb throttle in my NAMI Kilma, thank you!
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! The throttle I’m using is called a “polish throttle”. I purchased it locally, but you can find the link to purchase one in the official Nami FB group. Just go into to the group and search for it. One of the retailers that sell Nami in the EU posted it
Hi ,so I have the klima with led strip light ,( so far with no issues!) I'm now concerned about brakes locking up on me or throwing me off at speed!!...... is this what I've got to look forward to ??
I've just got carbon fender and rear guard to fit ,so really don't want to have to fit fender light !! ( hate the look) . Thanks for video.
Thanks for watching Craig! I was hoping to have the same experience that you have with the "lightstrip" version of the Klima. Unfortunately, mine came with all the issues that folks ran into with the LED strip. You don't have to worry about it throwing you off because all it does is "kill the motors" while you're riding. So you'll all of a sudden experience a loss of power vs. experiencing a hard stop like the brakes engaging. I hope that you never have to encounter it just because that carbon fender must look soooooo good compared to the tail light fender lol.
I made this video becauseI just wanted to make sure that I was transparent about my experience with the Klima. I still really love the scooter and this didn't negatively impact my experience. I hated the way the tail light looked but it is growing on me the more I see it lol.
Nice scooter mine has 491.0 miles on it isinwheel s9max scooter it's doing really good
thanks for joining us for this ride Snoopy! That's great that you've had a good experience with your scooter over those 491 miles. I hope that you continue to enjoy it!
Hi, Ivan. Is there a NYC business that will rent me a Burn-E? I would like to try it out for commuting from NJ to NY. Thanks
thanks for joining us on this ride! TBH I don't think there's a rental company that will have a Burn E. I can just imagine the liability and issues of renting out a high performance machine like a Burn E to the public. Your best bet may be to purchase one and use it for a commute and return it if it doesn't work. There are some places that as long as its not beat up and the mileage is still low they'll accept a return for a fee.
Sorry I didn't have a better answer for you!
Have you thought about upgrading logan 2 pistol for 4 piston logan calipers?
with the way I have engine braking, I honestly don't feel the need to upgrade anymore. Along with the E-Braking, it's more than enough for commuting!
Any1 btw know if all namis r steel or still aluminium. Saw the breaking nami videos...
Yes they are that was a very early issue solved 3 years ago with update
Nami frames will always be made from reinforced aluminum. As for the Namis breaking, I don't know what these people are doing to the scooter to cause such a failure. Only feasible answer would be repeated high stress jumps and crashes. If you're talking about the aluminum vs steel steering column. Those upgrades were available for order and should be remedied for the newer models.
I work in the sales of high end mechanical products and I will tell you that there's always more to the story than what the person is letting off. I've ridden my nami scooters hard for thousands of miles on the really rough NYC roads and plenty of users across the world have ridden thousands of kms and never encountered those issues. Now I'm not saying that it's not possible because the majority never encountered it. All I'm saying is there's usually a deeper reason behind the problem.
I hope this helps clarify a few things.
What was the update? I skipped around the video it’s 21 minutes of handlebars and 20 seconds daps.
I showed it 21 seconds in to the video and tested it for the first 4:31 minutes of the video. I had the LED strip that was causing the brake sensor issue removed and the fender/taillight installed hoping that it would fix the brake sensor issue.
What kind of throttle are you using on your klima?
thanks for joining us for this ride! I use the "Polish Throttle". If you search for it in the official Nami group on FB, you'll see the link for purchase.
Are you going to put on the front signals/drl? Just did it on my burne
Thanks for watching! I've been waiting to see what people's experiences are like. Since I finally got my Klima set up perfect, I didn't want to ruin it by accidentally triggering a new issue lol. I'll probably contact Michael soon about it.
Hey buddy
thanks for joining us for the ride!
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👊🏼 glad you enjoyed the video!
what's up eyebahn, Im a scooter reviewer myself(aspiring) and i just posted my frist ever long form vid on youtube, do you have any tips and maybe coudl i get a sub?
thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. Congrats on starting the channel and congrats on posting the first video. Best two tips I have is:
1. Be consistent. Things will never be perfect and having a schedule you can commit to will prevent you from overthinking the videos. If you say you're gonna post once a week just do it at the same time every week. If you say every two weeks, stick to that.
2. Always find something to improve. Regardless how much of a masterpiece or piece of sh*t we think we have there's always something to improve.
Enjoy the process and your time with your community.
No way in hell im putting those horrible amazon looking rear lights lol. I know its to get rid of the braking sensor issue but no im not putting that on my klima looks awful. i do get the brake sensor issue maybe once a month but i easily get rid of it by messing with that little nut on the thread under the brake lever. I dont crank it all the way tight because that won't make it go away has to be a little bit lose to the point when i dont need a tool for that all i do is just use my fingures to twist it. But yea on my klima i rarely see the brake sensor icon i just make sure that little nut isnt super tight. Like if im riding it and the scooter stalls out on me because of the sensor all i do is stop the scooter kick down the kick stand and mess with the little nut until i know for sure is gone the sensor icon. I don't need a little ranch tool or robo grip for that little nut thingy all I do is just twist it with my fingure.😊
Hahaha all good. I don’t mind it now that it’s on there. Having the motor braking to supplement the brakes is worth the change in appearance
@@eyebahnrides aye bro new scooter on the way, the nanrobot LS7+ 72 volt. I'm waiting for the arrival gosh I hope doesn't come defecting or miss handled the box lol.📦
Had to get that scooter because it's the best looking scooter at night time kinda reminds me of my teverun supreme the lights.
@@JulianRides I wish I could pick up a few new PEVs. Maybe I can finally do that once we get a home outside of NYC with a garage lol