Titan: What's Next | Classification | Search | SOSUS Detection | US & Canada Investigations
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- What's Next?
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June 24, 2023
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - recaps the issues surrounding the loss of the submersible Titan. He also discusses the issue of classification, the search and rescue efforts for the craft, the detection of the implosion by the US Navy SOSUS array, and how the US and Canada investigation will proceed.
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00:00 Introduction
00:58 1. Classification
03:46 2. SOS & Search and Rescue
05:54 3. US Navy SOSUS Detection
08:41 4. Investigation
14:48 5. Thank You
Thank you for speaking up for the lack of funding for the Coast Guard.
Amen to that! Semper Paratus! ⚓ 😎✌️
My boss is a former Coasty. He has interesting sea stories.
Coast guard sucks lol
Lack of funding? Don't they have a $12B annual budget?
USCG, less coasties than NY cops. Search and rescue on every waterway in us. Marine fishery enforcement. Drug interdiction and national security. Inspect and maintain navigation buoys in all coastal waters and rivers. The list goes on.
The sheer arrogance of Stocton was the biggest alarm bell for me. He thought he was avant garde when he was just a rich arrogant prick playing with fire. He ignored warnings from far more experienced people in the field. He mocked the Titanic and said his vessel was actually unsinkable. He said "we are remembered for the rules we break" assuming that he was pursuing bold new horizons rather than meeting fundamental industry safety standards. And the ultimate irony is he will be remembered for the rules he broke. Just not in the way he was expecting.
The most interesting thing about him is that he was talking about how all the accidents in the industry were caused by human error not technical issues with the submersible, without ever realizing that he was actively committing said human error.
There are always a lot of nay sayers that must be overcome. The sub did dive successfully at least a few times. The US Navy has lost big submarines too. Hind sight is 20/20.
@@JoeLinux2000 Disregarding the fact that everyone except one were rich pricks who probably would have considered me and you as excrement on their boots there's nothing that prevents boundaries from being pushed by following best practices that has been established over several decades and actually certify radical new design materials for the most extreme environment on earth before putting human beings in them.
I think it's absurd expecting people outside a technical field actually understand the relative risk of going down at such depths with some generic waivers of liability where you sign on the dotted line like you would opening a bank account.
@@JoeLinux2000 the US navy wasn't offering joyrides to civilians
@@JoeLinux2000 Many people have died to teach us what we know about planes, ships, submarines, safety and survival at sea etc. Are you trying to suggest that instead of taking heed of those lessons that were written for us in blood, we need to repeat all the mistakes ourselves?
This was so much more informative than any news channel. I've learned the most about this tragedy from Sal here and also James Cameron.
Most channels are doggy paddling around this story, but Sal is here doing the butterfly.
I have a hard time seeing something like this as a tragedy.
@@TheMattTrakker Is that because they are rich, and you have deemed their action of stepping into that -thing- as "stupid". And because you find them "stupid" you also deem them not worthy of their wealth. I guess this dehumanizes them because of the following thought; "IF they are stupid, but are wealthy, they must have plundered their wealth from the poor, they have become rich through nefarious ways.", this makes them evil, and therefore not worthy of empathy. Which are disgusting leaps of logic, and I deem anyone thinking this way as showing their true sin, that of jealousy. But maybe you see it as "not a tragedy" because you think now, after this "tragedy", more regulations can be brought in or... something. But if you think the jealous way, then at least know that the son did not want to go on it, was sacred, but did it anyway because he loved his father and wanted to spend time with him on fathers day. Because... GOD believe me, those people are busy. Or do you also attribute onto the son the sins of the evil, billionaire, father? But I am too high and reading too much into it.
james cameron is the authority on the subject
Jim Cameron knows more about Submersibles that this guy ever hoped to know. Cameron designed and built his own submersible and went down considerably deeper than the Titanic. The Coast Guard has no reason to have DSRV’s because submarines are operated by militaries, and militaries have their own DSRV’s.
Thank you for explaining in detail how the Navy “heard” the implosion, and what they had to do to find that anomaly in their listening system. You are the only one that has explained this. I subscribed during the Evergreen debacle, and have watched your videos ever since. I am retired and feel like I get a glimpse of your college lectures/classes when I watch. Love it!
i second this! I knew of sono-bouys and such but never truly understood the extent of the matter
I have read some books about the cold war and the sub war and also about the loses of the Threasher andd Scorpion published recently after a lot was declaring - these books go into some detail of the listening system but it's hard to cover the middle of the ocean.
Still doesn't explain why they didn't go back on Monday or Tuesday searching for the implosion, they waited for the oxygen reserve to finish and then explained that it actually happened on Sunday. Not to mention they also claimed noises were heard on Wednesday
Not according to what the Navy stated. They Saud we heard a sound at a certain time that coukd have been an explosion or implosion we couldn't confirm it was the Titan so we didn't want to hamper or reduce moral of search and rescue efforts. If they are not monitoring this an enemy sub can be on our shores easy.
They needed to find the sub's debris in order to confirm, wether the noise they found related with an implosion or not. They didn't want to jump to conclusion wothout evidence, such as finding parts of the sub showing implosion damage etc. It took them days before finding the debris.
Fantastic video! I'm a physical oceanographer for the US Navy working with numerical ocean acoustic models and its refreshing to hear someone who actually knows what they're talking about speak on this topic
I’m just a hairdresser, and this “missing sub” came up in conversation several times at the salon. It’s fascinating and devastating at the same time. Thanks for the info.
I graduated from college in 1976. I enlisted in 1977 and was stationed at Newport OR. I was a search and rescue boat crewman on the 44 foot motor lifeboat (MLB) and 52 foot MLB. Went out on the 52 MLB into a bad storm. We had 36 foot + seas and wind gusts to 70 knots. It was like living through the CCR song Bad Moon Rising. At the end of 1977 I departed for OCS and was commissioned in 1978. I was assigned to Marine Safety Office Paducah KY. For the majority of my three year tour I was the chief of the investigation division that had one person, me. Left active duty and went in the Coast Guard Reserve as an 02. I was rifted in 1992 as an 04.The reason I was separated from the active reserve to the inactive was budget problems in the active duty CG. The Commandant lacked the funds to pay the variable housing allowance. So he took the 1/2 Reserve budget and cut the Reserve from 13,500 to 6,500 in 1992. The Coast Guard has never had much of a budget. I saw many things, had great experienced, and learned a lot. The USCG is the premier service to be in.
Thanks for you service. Incredible work.
Wow! I was an officer in the army and was not aware that the Coast Guard had been subject to a RIF (Reduction In Force) of such scale in the early 1990's. A Viet Nam veteran, I had witnessed the wholesale forced separation of many fine officers during the post-war cutbacks. But I don't think the casualty rate approached 50%. I knew several mustang 02s who chose to revert to their former E-5 rank rather than be separated. RIFs are brutal and often indiscriminate undertakings. Glad you stayed on in the Reserves.
@@geobus3307 Thanks for your service. My closest friend was on a PBR in the Mekong Delta in ‘66-‘67. The stories. Unreal.
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@@dl7281 Thanks for the thanks. As your PBR jockey friend has doubtless related, the experience bordered on the surrealistic at times. The best of times, the worst of times.
I'm french and I was literally absorbed by the video, thanks to the very clear diction and simple vocabulary. And the content was very informative.
Wow, thank you!
While the story is tough, Im happy for how much TV time you got. Few people I’d rather hear talk about anything ocean related
When I was doing design at Boeing we did the ice slough tests on the early stages of the V22 Osprey. The ice hit a the fuselage of a 100% carbon fiber reinforced composite. The fuselage shattered, requiring a redesign of including Kevlar into the composite to increase the toughness of the design. This worked as you can see as the Osprey is operational today. Carbon fiber, although strong is notoriously brittle and subject to rapid and fracture (shattering). Including two different materials would increase the likelihood of these events occurring. If you check designs more and more manufacturers commingled tows of carbon fiber/ Kevlar, Carbon fiber/titanium, etc to get the strength and toughness required in the performance of composite materials in a real world setting.
I think you've nailed it. It will be an enormous surprise if the hull is anything but a scattered field of shards.
Very good information and ideas.
@@louisc.gasper7588 That's my thinking. The design was not all bad, but obviously needs more thought.
I'm not an expert in this field but it's also important to consider carbon composites' susceptibility to forming microfractures under stress. This was a known issue in submersible design, where a material's behavior during pressure cycling is obviously very important.
Steel and titanium pressure vessels, if well designed, only deform elastically under the pressure they're rated for and reliably recover. Carbon composite on the other hand is known to weaken with repeated stress.
Rush was warned by expert engineers that the material wasn't suitable and ignored them. When questioned about inspections between dives, he insisted that there was no instrument that could check for wear and tear in 5-inch thick carbon composite, as if that were an excuse rather than another reason not to use the material.
If I'm not mistaken Kevlar is made by Dupont, which had a factory explosion investigated by the NCSB
Also student pilot;)
Carbon fiber and other composites are very good at strength under tension, but not good at strength under compression. Especially depending on the actual strength and several other aspects of the binder. Consider that every fiber:binder surface is a potential route for water to sneak along
You only have to watch a crash in F1 to see how carbon fibre reacts in extreme circumstances.
As a fellow professional mariner, now retired and lifelong student of maritime history and casualties, great job, Sal. You provided an excellent, articulate and thorough explanation of multiple subjects, about which most people, even many other mariners, know next to nothing. You and and Mario Vittone are the best voices out there to explain these complex subjects in ways most people can understand.
I was arguing to people the same thing with regards to Coast Guard and Navy. The search and rescue operations are part of their mission. I’m sure those service members were ready to jump at the opportunity to put their training to the test. If rescue operations were direct billed, no one would call for help 😅 Excellent explainer!
BEST SUMMARY EVER. Facts A-Z. No drama. No hand wringing. No tears. What a relief.‼️ Kudos‼️
Great Points! I agree The U.S. Coast Guard is chronically underfunded. I disagree that they should develop and maintain a deep sea recovery capability. The costs to spool up and run a program like that would be 10s of billions. All to cover a slice of rescue that would cover .0000001% of maritime operations. That would be equivalent to NASA maintaining a Astronaut rescue program for Mars. Maybe provide the Navy some more funding to increase their deep salvage recovery programs instead.
yeah, costs to develop, train and maintain the equipment and vessels for those emergencies would be astronomical, especially due to the cutting edge and extreme technology required to accomplish that mission. I love this channel by the way
Dr. Sal never fails to deliver. An objective and competent analysis, as always. ❤
Luv the informative information today on the sub ❤️🙏😇🙏⚘️
As an aerospace engIneer & aviation accident investigator, I must commend you on the content, scope, & clarity of your presentation. Excellent job, thanks!
I am very much a layman however I see problems with the flat non tapered join between the carbon fiber tube and the titanium ring. In my mind these two different materials would undergo different rates of expansion and contraction which would put unwanted strain on the glue from these cyclic loads during every descent. From an engineering perspective do you see this as problematic or could it be overcome with the right glue? Sorry to ask but I don't exactly know any engineers :)
Another aerospace engineer here and I agree.
There's way too many people with no technical background at all pumping out technical opinions these days. Its at the core of why we just aren't solving a lot of problems. We really do need to start telling the clowns and idiots to shut up especially non-engineers on engineering subjects.
@@tonywilson4713 Don't be too harsh on the "non-engineers" on "engineering subjects". Inquiring minds want to know and may not know the language or terms to ask properly.
BTW - my wife is an aerospace engineer and I am an electronics/software test engineer. I can't tell you how many times she has said to me "it's not aerospace" ....
@@truegret7778 Buddy I have just had another clown berate me over being a spoiler for fully auto-piloted cars.
I have actually spent the last 30+ years in control systems and automation. I know what it takes to write software to link sensors to actions and can unequivocally state that 99% of everyone who can program can't do that sort of work. They can't look at code and see what it does in the real world in real time. They can make some stuff work but the moment things don't work they are lost.
I have no doubt they can make a car that will follow a winding road with near absolute perfection. The problem is what that system does when it encounters something NEW that isn't accounted for in the code.
One of the most amazing aspects of the human brain is its ability to fill in gaps in the available information and adapt its experience at incredible speed. It also gets us into trouble at times like with pilots misreading something they see and their brain goes "UFO" because their peripheral visual system has labelled it as "out of the normal - potential threat."
This is my beef with non-technical people and other ignorant types. Not only do they NOT understand these nuances and details BUT they aren't interested in hearing them.
The idiot who ran this sub not only killed himself he killed 4 others BECAUSE details were inconvenient. Go ask your wife about the history of aviation and how many times untrained geniuses built planes that engineers with knowledge and experience said "DON'T do that!" and it ended tragically.
Better still ask your wife what happens when over 21tons of mass going at supersonic speed rams into a flat surface? Then ask her about the geniuses at SpaceX and their brilliant launch platform in Texas.
If she's wondering point out the fuel flow rate of a Raptor engine and multiply that by 33.
I heard a great description of the sub-clown "Brilliant Idiot"
@@Ragefps Hi Rage
Great observation re the joint geometry, & I concur; Based on what I could see in the images of the construction, you nailed the issue- its the sharp (non-ramped/tapered) junction of the two different materials- That is a stress riser, and is typically to be avoided in any design- and much moreso in high load applications. Second, re the loads carried by the adhesive, you are also correct- The two materials (carbon fiber composite & titanium) have different thermal coefficients of expansion (i recall the composite is actually the reverse of Ti & most other materials) plus they have different moduli of elasticity (how they physically react to loads) So those two factors thus xfer the loads to the adhesive as the vessel is cooled and put under pressure. I dunno what adhesive is used nor the exact geometry of the joint, but that seems to be demanding alot of the adhesive. As you may know, some adhesives are designed for shear, & some for tension. I dont know any that excel in both, but hopefully the designers really did their homework here. I did a little research on composite structures testing & behavior, and most of the available info indicates that this material is not well suited for this application, in part because the available research is not yet sufficient to fully understand the material's real-world behavior due to manufacturing irregularities/flaws, as well as in-service damage. On top of that, it appears in this case that detailed, definitive post-manufacturing and in-service inspections either werent available or were not utilized. And thats a key factor in determining and maintaining a desired level of safety
So refreshing to hear someone explain the situation & not trying to guess what happened before the evidence is analysed & the inquiry concluded.
Your commentary and insight into this story has been about the best I've seen. There are some others with a deeper dive, as it were, into the engineering issues involved but your discussions are really unmatched in presenting a cohesive view of all the factors involved and how they interact. Really great work.
Great job Doctor. You earned every subscriber. Thank you for keeping us updated on Titan. I hope along the investigation, you will continue to report. There does not seem to be any shortage of marine stories. Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers!!🇺🇸
@SuperNostalgia.stop spamming
I am glad for your subscription level. Your program is very relevant in many subjects and helps us understand the varieties of subjects. You’re a great professor!
Sal your ability to explain complex techincal subject in a clear and concise manner clear of confusion is unparalleled. every time I watch a episode I feel I have learned something of value. Cheers
Good, evening, Sam this was the most comprehensive information regarding this terrible situation, you spoke so well versed and told us in laymans terms as it was no faffing or passing the buck, regards from Scotland 🏴🙏🇬🇧
Thanks...it is Sal vice Sam. Cheers!
I concur this is the stuff I've been looking for. Thanks
about Sosus detection, if the sound is above certain parameter the listen devices send us the anomaly so we can analyze it! i'm pretty sure they new after one day this vessel was lost!
On a technical point - SpaceX (or any other US company) has to get approval in precisely the same manner from the FAA even if they are launching rockets designed and built and operated entirely overseas. (they may delegate it to other national agencies in other countries). This flows from the 'Outer Space Treaty' in 1967, which was written at a time that it was inconcievable private companies could do space launch, so it's framed as launching countries, not companies.
I appreciate that point.
Yes for example Rocket Lab founded in New Zealand and thus far only launching out of New Zealand are partially a US company and must seek FAA approval. They are basically done with the Wadhington launch site so they'll launching from US soil anyway soon. And they made their company partially American so they can compete for national security missions and all that. Those aren't even trusted to the French and certainly not the Russians.
and thats why it takes the richest in the world that can take all the time they want to launch a space program like musk or bezos in his baby steps with dod funds
Great job Sal! Between your channel and the television coverage I saw you on, I felt I got the best information and overview of this unfortunate situation. Congrats on the 100k goal too.
Wow, thanks!
Thank you Sal for explaining everything into laymen’s terms so we can understand. You are providing a great service
Thank you
Thank you Sal for all the hard work and keeping the facts straight. Few channels can handle evolving situations like this, but your channel was made for it and it shows.
BTW congrats on the 100K mark.
People are hungry for good nonbiased information
And you sir deliver just that in the murky world of shipping around the world
Much appreciated
I wish all news was done like this... Facts and useful information with a place to discuss the topics.
I cut the cable about 18 years ago with no regrets. The legacy propaganda has creeped onto the Internet in a big way, but is easily can be turned off. There are independent people reporting very good news, but you have to look for them.
@@CarolReidCA I watch Oann. they just give the facts without a lot of the talking heads . They have some, but do not run them a lot.
Thanks for explaining this. Many people have been so offended by "the navy hearing it and not saying anything", but I thought that even if they heard it in real time, they couldn't simply say "yeah, that was it, they imploded" because the ocean is very loud, and an interesting sound doesn't necessarily mean that what they heard was an implosion. It could corroborate it or add to the list of evidence, but not necessarily confirm it.
What they heard came at the same time they lost comms and transponder of the sub. And if they can triangulate it to near the titanic then it's all you need to know what happened. The sound is the confirmation. Seeing the debris is a secondary confirmation. They knew.
Congrats on 100k Sal. You are the best speaker on the industry. I have learned a lot from you. Thanks for staying on top of the Ocean Gate issues despite your busy schedule.
Dr. Mercogliano! You were my History I & II professor in college. Great and insightful content! Hope all is well. Go Camels !
Really appreciate your work on this, Sal. Very informative! Congrats on your success with the channel!
Another great video, you should also link to this the one where you talk about safety and the Titanic. I'm so glad you covered this story your way and put in the topics so I could rewatch easily. I tried lots of other videos on this and yours are the easiest to understand-- and explain all the distracting click bait that confused me. I loved your coverage of Evergiven back in the day and although I'm not into shipping I always find myself watching your videos. I learn more and more that shipping should be a topic everyone should get some knowledge how it can impact our lives and safety culture. Thank you for all you do and sharing your knowledge with us.
im impressed with you and a couple other sub channels actually having super detailed,professional and most importantly new information
Your balanced and thoughtful commentary is so appreciated. Your support for the coast guard and calling out the need for them to receive overdue accolades and more funding is often overlooked or completely dismissed in spite of their Herculean and often thankless job discrimination which they do whenever needed and in all kinds of harrowing conditions. Finally thanks for your sensitivity to those who were lost and their families and for not putting out click bait content like so others are doing to exploit the tragedy.
I like a guy that is comfortable letting his Christmas Tree attend Zoom meetings. Builds character!
Curious if this will change RMST Inc's plans to demo the roof of the wireless room and retrieve the Marconi Set from Titanic. The RMST lawyer who won approval for internal salvage is also affiliated with OceanGate (and claims to have pulled out of this dive last minute), OceanGate had recently surveyed the Marconi room specifically for this, and Nargeolet was RMST's recovery expert.
100K, congrats
I hope this analysis goes viral. You are extremely articulate, put forward theories well, and specify hypotheses vs informed speculation
So much more proffesionalism on TH-cam then on regular tv. Amazing video.
Very much appreciate your input and perspective on this terrible incident.
I am not sure why or when I started watching your channel, but I am glad I did. You present knowledge on things I had no clue about. This presentation was very good. Thank you for presenting this in an orderly understandable manner.
The smartest and knowledgeable analysis on this incident I've seen so far. Great job
Really glad to hear that the NTSB is going to be taking part in the enquiry. They have so many relevant specialists they can call on, notably materials scientists and metallurgists, and their open hearings are admirable. But the Canadians, who are closest, deserve more mention and respect than they have been getting from the media during this search, so it seems right they should take the lead. The UK (3) and France (1) had citizens on board and have a lot of deep-sea and accident-investigation experience to contribute. I hope we shall also be represented
Canada is in because of the Mothership. That is what they are in this for.
Just to add some information, the US Navy has a very deep reserve of technical knowledge of DSS (deep submergence systems). They have run a rigorous and effective DSS certification program for over 50 years (Navy uses 'certification' versus ABS word 'classification'). In my past career in this area we certified Sea Cliff (20K), Turtle (15K), Alvin(15K), and three DSRVs.
Dr. Sal, you did a great job on all your interviews, providing viewers with a well rounded understanding of the incident possible causes, and repercussions. Thanks!
Finally a level head calmly explaining the situation and the steps that will be taken next. Thank You.
I would think that the sound of the implosion might not have been immediately recognizable as such, not only because of the small size of the vessel, but also because we've probably only ever heard metal subs imploding and perhaps it sounds a little different when it's carbon fiber.
Oceans are noisy places... wind, waves, fish, objects banging around, etc.
The gas (I'm guessing Heli-Ox?) rising and expanding you'd think would've been noticeable by the crew on the support vessel crew. It would expand on the way up if at ambient pressure at depth.
Great point!
So, here’s a story:
There were times when it was considered bad luck to name a vessel something arrogant that will tempt the sea. There were also no basic safety requirements.
A ship called the Titanic and a mini sub called Titan were built during these times.
This is the most sensible report that I have ever heard on this tragedy since Monday.
Great summary as usual Sal. Hope you are able to continue your excellent work here!
Excellent description of the realities of this incident.
The support ship crew likely wouldn't have heard the implosion because of the depth, yet they should've seen escaped air after it imploded, as air would rise and expand. They should've noticed that if they were monitoring, and even, perhaps, if they weren't.
I hope those that have it release photos and video of the wreckage. A lot can be learned from it, as well as the build videos, descriptions, schematics, etc.
Sorting out the numerous problems of the Titan will take people from many disciplines.
This "vessel" had many, many problems before it ever dove the first time. As someone who has worked on/with submersibles, had I booked a trip, I wouldn't have gone. FAR too many serious safety issues.
I DO wonder if the vessel became negatively buoyant on decent and were in an uncontrolled descent? As you descend, and as gases compress, you become increasingly negatively buoyant. Depending on the weights involved, the thrusters (which were inadequate), any ballast system, etc., they may not have been able to slow or stop their descent.
What was the weight of the passengers? Did they compensate for the weight of the 5 persons onboard?
The use of different materials, the seams, the door weight (& those stresses), the marriage of the carbon fiber to the titanium ring with essentially epoxy, etc. were all weaknesses.
With the limited information publicly available, it would seem the hull or more likely the seams along the marriage of the materials between the tube and the rings for the hatch, or the "stern" connection failed.
There are reports that the Titan wasn't pressure tested (hydrostatic testing certainly was indicated, yet for a vessel that size, would've required a very large tank, and a very beefy compresser, which would've been very expensive) between dives. Additionally, the noises heard on dives were described by the "captain"/inventor as the carbon material "settling," when, in fact, it was likely forming cracks within the material.
There was also seemingly no dye testing, only sound indicators, which were grossly inadequate.
Please keep us posted!
Regulations are certain to follow. Let's get reports from the many disciplines involved so that regulations are written in a sound matter, and thus make deep sea exploration as safe as possible, yet doable.
As you stated, there are already regulations for submersibles. It would seem that this vessel should have been under existing classifications, so additional regulations may not be necessary, except perhaps for carrying passengers, and perhaps some common sense when creating and using a vehicle for deep sea exploration with passengers.
I'm guessing the company didn't have insurance for the reasons you outlined.
I hope this incident will not adversely affect other outfits who are conducting deep sea explorations.
Nothing is ever completely "safe," not even sleeping in your bed at home. A plane could fall from the sky and crash into your bedroom.
There are outfits who do deep sea exploration, even with tourists, that do so in a relatively safe manner.
To close off exploration would be a tragedy, much like regulations that allow governments to close off the mountains in California "due to snow."
I had gone to local mountains properly equipped for over 50 years, and in far deeper snow than this year, yet because some people don't properly prepare, the mountains were closed off, and if you were to go anyhow, you could have been arrested.
Those types of regulations are not welcome, they restrict movement, are unconstitutional, and worse, you cannot visit to see many species of animals, conditions, plants in their natural environment. Very sad, and hopefully those types of regulations will be stopped.(I spent quite an investment in proper gear to go, yet was prevented from going because of overzealous regulations.)
Let's hope that any additional regulations are sound and allow people who wish to enjoy our world, be able to do so, taking reasonable precautions, and being reasonably outfitted for the environment.
To stop exploration is simply wrong, and adverse to us being able to enjoy our world.
People die every day, even in our cars, despite numerous safety regulations.
People need to learn again to be educated and to take responsibility for their own safety.
That said, this is a very sad event.
Let's hope lawsuits and regulations don't destroy the exploration of our world. Far too many people are living behind a computer screen and are afraid to go outside.
And they wonder why depression, anxiety, and sadly, suicides are on the rise? We weren't made to sit inside with no exercise, to be told what I'd safe and is not, and to live in a cocoon.
People need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves.
That said, some regulations are necessary, especially when people interact.
The huge thing I see missing from reports is that these people chose to go on this journey, they entered the Titan, they acknowledged the risks, and sadly, they perished.
People get into cars and don't come home, every day.
When we allow lawsuits and overregulation rule our lives, we stop making things, we stop learning, and we become frozen robots that don't do anything.
The exception of one who clearly had reservations is the 19 year old. He reportedly allowed the pressures he felt , "not wanting to let his father down on Father's Day", override his fears and concerns about the trip.
This should be a lesson about peer pressure for everyone!
"Don't do things that you are afraid of to please others!" should be the massage to everyone - NOT "Who can we blame and/or sue".
I hope that's a lesson everyone learns!
Thanks again, and please keep us updated.
Well that’s a new record for the most bizarre and arbitrary indentation on an online comment I’ve ever seen
Congrats 🍾🎊🎈 for the 100k claps
I remember ur channel before the crowd 🥰
Thank you so much!!
Damn! You are officially one of my favorite you tube channels! Great reporting!!!!!
Sal, your channel deserves the recognition. Keep up the Great Content and keen your insight that I am sure we all love. Regards, Ron on the Cape in MA.
I totally agree Dr. Sal! 'Experimental techniques' might be more in order for a surgical or drug-trial, life-saving attempt for a patient who is for sure not going to survive otherwise - but to disguise 'paid multi-millionaire guests' aboard this vessel was just madness. Now the entire industry will be affected - on top of the needless loss of lives.
Hopefully we won't be overregulated into a bubble in our bedrooms with a TV in front of us. That's stifling. No wonder we have children with anxiety and depression issues!
That said, I wouldn't have gone on the Titan. Too many issues I feel aren't safe enough for me. That said, those who did go knew and accepted the risks. That should be the end of it, and people should learn from this incident.
Placing many millions of people in an experimental drug trial is a bit iffy too.
WTH was Rush thinking? Carbon fiber tube?? Carbon bicycle frames fatigue and eventually break.
Damn if I would gotten in that thing even if he paid me a quarter mil!
Congratulations , again , I’ve been with you from the start ,and you provide as much as you can also you’re the first to us when you don’t know for sure .this was a terrible situation that will make way for a safer future of deep sea exploration.
1:54 I would be EXTREMELY SHOCKED if they even had insurance, tbh. at least not for the tourist side. I can’t imagine ANY insurer that would underwrite that.
the SOSUS you talked about is a old system over sixty years some is still active but is being replaced by a newer system the Navy wont tell about top secret but probably could hear fish talking i am sure you get the drift your the best keep up the good work
I know about it, but did not want to talk about it in detail.
the government only tells us what they want us to know but i bet their is a lot of top secret things going on with the Army Navy and Air force going on
There have been upgrades and changes since it was deployed.
Sals telling a story like Once Upon a Time in Fairyland, he knows that upgraded systems exist only he has to be careful, if they want they could hear a fish fart
Carbon fiber shatters when it implodes, so your not going to find a tube that is munched together
Thank you for this comprehensive presentation.
The person with the most experience has the most informed and nuanced take of the situation. Thanks for sharing your expertise and insight on how this unfolded.
*Rest in heaven to the 5 passenger*
While the Coast Guard is arguably underfunded, I don't see it as their and the tax payers obligation to be prepared for such a niche endeavor as deep sea submersibles operating outside of any conventions way out in international waters.
As much as I can appreciate where you seem to be coming from with this, that's a slippery slope to go down. That kind of becomes classism because "niche endeavors" such as this are in part only so because they are well out of financial reach of the masses.
Your work & dedication shows everytime you are on Utube or teaching. You earned the respect you have now.
I just watched your interview where they asked how you felt about politicians critiquing the rescue efforts. You were calm, measured, and extremely informative, and I learned a few things! You've earned yet another subscriber.
I'll brag for you Sal! There may others out there with more qualifications in certain areas of maritime history or shipping, but you, not only have your own qualifications and vast knowledge, you have the great ability to make the complex intelligible to laymen. Your ability to communicate and simplify things is first-rate.But, maybe most importantly, you are a very likable guy! When you add that to all the above- you have someone who others gravitate towards. 100K subs is well-deserved Sal!
My prayers go out to all the families and the people who were involved in designing this craft. I'm sure everyone involved must be feeling terrible. Let's not see anymore deaths. God will forgive all involved. When dealing with human lives we must be very carful not to have an accident like this one. The consequences are much too high.
Sal, Great job giving everyone a professional opinion about a tragic story. You should be consulted when new rules about submersibles are being discussed.
Happy 100,000!!!
Great job Sal, and congrats on 100,000.
Even though you are not on your regular subjects... Congratulations with the 100.000 subscribers❤
Keep the quality news coming: as soon as the news involves shipping I rely on your information. Maybe not always agree but at least I'll get fair and honest information and facts, sometimes in combination with your opinion: but always the facts first. Thanks 👍👍🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🦆
Thanks Jan!
Congratulations on 100K! Always great content!
Good work, Sal. I started watching you during the EverGiven, I didn't know I was with you from the start! I love this channel, you're sooo informative! Keep on winning. 🙂
In my opinion, you were the presented the knowledge of all the experts interviewed by all the news station I watched covering this story.
I wish all news was like this. Poignant, informative, without sensationalizing.
The quality of your work is why you are growing. You will continue to grow due to your quality product!
Love how informative this video was and how it covered the different aspects of investigation! Thank you!
Sal, you do not have to apologize for anything (lack of expertise, others with more knowledge, etc). Others could not even carry your mail. I felt thoroughly and accurately informed by your video and hope to check in with you again. Thank you...I am Jerry from the port city of Jacksonville, FL
I appreciate that Jerry!
So we were talking about supply chain a few days ago, and a couple of us started talking about the west coast and the panama shipping restrictions...
"How to you know about that?"
Turns out we all ended up on your channel.
Thank you!
That is awesome. I love when I hear this.
Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about on this.
Thank you for all of your hard work Dr.!
I sailed AB Green many years ago, I still find shipping and the ocean fascinating. Sal keep up the good work.
I appreciate your insight. I've been watching ocean liner TH-cam videos for the past two years and it's nice to learn new things that aren't mentioned in a lot of other ship channels, especially about the oceangate disaster.
Much better this time.
Good job.
By far, this is the most Informative on this subject.
You did a great job of making all this clear!
Awesome video and amazing information Sal! It's incredible the vast knowledge you have regarding maritime shipping and anything related to ships. You've been my go-to for quite some time whenever I want to get the "real facts" and information. Thank you so so much Sal!👏👏👏👏👏🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Brilliant explanation of the US Navy hearing a sound. Thank you.
Edit: this entire video has been more informative than any news channel, paper, website or video.
Thank you so much. I've learned more from your videos than anything else.
Congratulations on the 100k. I have been subscribed for a while now and i work around container transport and warehousing / packing and unpacking / custom clearance company in N Z so shipping news and info from the other side of the world is very interesting to us. you help us understand current trends and issue at effect transport shipping. Keep the Great work coming Sal.
Well done. Can always rely on your channel for calm and solid information. Thank you.
Sam, your knowledge is golden!
this is the single most informative video i have seen in decades
Thank you for this video.
Awareness is something everyone can benefit from.
My thoughts go out to the families. Such hard times they must be having. 😢
Edit* Thank you for your honesty.
Sal, thank you for your brilliant analysis!!!
Congratulations on the 100K!! Been with you from Day 1..
Belated congratulations on hitting 100,000 subscribers. Well deserved!
Thank you so much 😀
Congratulations Sal who would have thought....keep up the fine work you have been doing.
Cleanest explanation on this tragedy! Thank you!