Marine engine dynos are a rare sight worldwide, Nizpro Marine not only manufactures hard parts like supercharger systems for the popular Yamaha V6 outboard engines, but they also offer calibration upgrades. We caught up with Simon Gishus for an insight into their dyno cell and engine calibration capabilities. *Grab your fullBOOST Merch* 😁🤙 👉 shop.fullboost.com.au/collections/fullboost If you’d like to be notified every time we upload a video, subscribe and then click the bell icon 🔔 next to the subscription button.
Excellent video! I think this is the future of marine training as well, allowing inspiring marine technicians to see inputs and outputs in a controlled environment, boosting troubleshooting skills! 👏👏Love it!
Nizpro have always been industry leaders. I remember many years ago being blown away with their rb30 engine development. They are always 1 step ahead of everyone else.
Simon Gishus has forgotten more about motors than what most of us know about them. No nonsense, no mess, all business. 👍 People forget that he is the OG creator of the 1000hp RB40, doing it years before others were coming close to 1000hp with their "2K Barras". 💪
@VinnieKoltes The RB40 IS the Barra, you absolute dimwit. 🤣🤣 Educate yourself Mr.Vinnie's bin about the OG Nizpro ARBEEFORDEE! 💪 th-cam.com/video/U2fopUdSQoI/w-d-xo.html
@VinnieKoltes No, it wasn't a typo, it's a long running thing due to the Barra and the RB having a near IDENTICAL block design and bore spacing in the block. Even major RB companies like Nitto have bought into saying "RB40" for a normal or "RB38" for their destroker Barra. The fact you decided to turn around and try to discredit my comment without knowing what you were talking about opened you up for an insult. So if you can't handle that, not my issue fucktard. 🤦👎
Everything he just talked about is 100% spot on. The man knows his business. Can't tell you how many times I've watched so many mistakes being made on various dyno channels and they will argue the points you bring up. Now you know you are mostly watching entertainment instead of research & development.
Great video about a subject that very few have ever thought about. Met simon when I was 18 at Calder Park. We were the first to arrive for the Friday night street drags and was suprised that this guy from "that" tuning shop Nizpro wanted to come chat to me about my car instead of his new at the time orange BA XR6 turbo. A genuinely nice bloke.
@fullboost Phenomenal video! So much information provided, about the incredible amount of data gained, and how it is done in a valid, repeatable way!👍 First time I have seen any thing by Simon, although I have heard of him and his work before. I’ve subscribed and liked, I want to know more👍
This was the best marine engine power related video I have seen to date. I would NEVER have thought to keep the power head on the lower unit (and the difference it makes with the exhaust tuning EVEN with a fourstroke) to keep numbers matching in real time.
they've been doing it that way for a long long time . they have all different sizes of waterbrake dynos for the propshaft, and all you need is a garden hose (obviously of sufficient pressure). this way is certainly better for what they are doing tuning-wise, but is extremely expensive.
The best barra tuner in vic. They tuned my rig years ago and supplied nothing but excellent service, expertise, and parts. Legends! Well done Simon and the nizpro boys.
yet dynomite in melb have the fastest and quickest street and drag car records,.. not saying nizrpro are shit buttttt Dyno mite in footscray are the king of Barras World wide. Tell me im wrong an ill suck your dick
i wish we had marine grade stuff in cars, those engines prob built way better than any car engine is because its made to hold high hp power at high rpms for hours on end which no built car engine does
I'm a mechanic and boat enthusiast and every word this guy is saying is just gold 1000% accurate and is the way I've been talking for 20 years ..if u want more power look at your setup first u could be sitting on 20-100hp with no actual mods just temp control
One of the best videos I've seen from you guys. I love that you cover all different areas of motoring. Super impressive.!! 👍👍👊👊 Check out more of the Aussie diesel stuff as well please.
One of my Favourite video in a long time. Super informative and accurate. I've met Simon and I can say I've also met some legends in the outboard community Like Ron Anderson of Mercury Racing Fame. Simon is right up there.What Nizpro are doing is making waves it the USA. Pretty impressive for an Aussie company. Whilst not being a Yamaha man I've felt the power of the 450 and I can tell you it's a Beast. Great work Fullboost for bringing us great cutting edge content.
It makes perfect sense to go down this path. There's generally no speed limit on the water, apart from 6 knot zones, and the registration doesn't increase with cylinder amounts or power, unlike fast cars. A screaming twin turbo big block with no mufflers is all okay on the water, not so much on the street.
One of the fondest memories of my life is running a Merc Racing outboard on a prop shaft dyno in the late 90’s. Every single person at our tech school came out from class like WTF!
This man builds engine packages. He's not just handing you a pretty Dyno number he's giving you a real power number you can expect to put into the water under real circumstances. With the lower unit attached using the cooling it will have on the boat with ambient air temp and not just the first run numbers but the numbers it made after everything is hot like it would be in use or even hotter because it would have alot of airflow on the boat. You would be surprised how often an engine builder will feed an engine they built for a customer high octane fuel with more ignition advance, cold Dyno water pumping through the cooling system, air conditioned air going into the intake with 30 weight oil and no accessories to get that real nice number. Then once in the car with hot coolant, hot air, pump gas, alternator water pump power steering and less timing advance it's down 60-100 horsepower or possibly more in some cases. I dunno I just feel like it's shady to do that. For example any work I do for someone I do my best to make sure the customer knows exactly what is going on, what's being done, ways to make it better or cheaper without compromising quality and just in general what they get for their money. I would Dyno their engine as close to real world in car conditions as possible knowing I built it myself to my high standards. If I'm selling you a 500 hp engine to me it needs to make that number with its own water pump with the air cleaner on it Etc. This is probably why all of my customers continue to bring all of their stuff to me and recommend me to everyone. The other week my truck broke down and a customer just gave me their keys and said use mine and it's making a little sound when I hit bumps. Give me a call when you are done.
I used to use a portable hydraulic marine dyno. Biggest problem was overheating at wot. Some motors like Suzuki and Volvo need pressure and flow blasting on the water inlet screens to cool like it’s cruising through the water.
Boats aren’t necessarily my thing. But I love IC engines in all forms. Bikes, cars, boats planes and trains, you name it. Add high end performance to that and love it even more. 2 stroke or four stroke. A well built engine pulling hard and running up in rpm, nothing beats the roaring heartbeat thundering against your chest. You know what I mean.
i used to build 2 cycle outboard racing powerheads. the looper was a good one but the Mercury chrome bore V6 was a scary monster, they don't even wake up until they hit 4000 RPM then from about 5 to 9000 you had to hold on to something. You can still find them attached to bass boats, put that shit on an 11 foot hydroplane and win stupid prizes
@@landcruisertoyota3980 He’s just a very arrogant person, and many people would say the same. I spent $30k with the bloke over 10 years and he was a rude prick every time. Smart know doubt, but people want to deal with nice fellas, not pricks. DSR boys had enough of him too! SeeYa!
Comes with the territory - from personal experience in a couple different fields. Take a very close look at the running telemetry and tell me he is not far ahead of almost all of the dyno operators. The live cylinder pressure and knock connected to an excellent ECU are worth their weight in gold while tuning.
If the water that the propeller is sitting in doesn't flow in a direction the propeller should create an air cavity around the propeller, resulting more on the dyno reading... Am I wrong?
Wondering why they didn't make a dyno at the prop instead of at the crank .... I wonder if the way they are doing it at the crank which would be considered brake HP if you would take off 15% like on automotive dyno's and that would be the actual HP at the prop ..... This was a pretty neat video.
Man I wish these engines had the good looks of 7 marine or the newer evinrudes. I have a 78 glastron I redid and it has one of the 7 marine engines on it. It's had a lot of work done and I push about 750hp now. However it always worries me that some day it's gonna need parts and since 7 just is gone just sucks. You'd think that would be enough but I've got one of the newer evinrudes on my bass boats. And a 89 checkmate deep v that I put a Mercedes cls63 biturbo v8 in. All of these are delicate engines but man are they nice and quick and loud. There's nothing like a good cammed v8 blop sitting at the ramp making all the dudes jealous and their girls wanna ride with me instead. Right now I'm rebuilding my 2000 kawasaki stx900 swapping the motor from a audi rs3 that I got super cheap from the salvage auction. Can't wait to see what it sounds like with a turbo 4 banger
Why’s the flywheel at the top of the engine and not connected to the business end through a clutch or torque converter? I’m sure someone’s put one in a hot rod, haven’t they?
Marine engine dynos are a rare sight worldwide, Nizpro Marine not only manufactures hard parts like supercharger systems for the popular Yamaha V6 outboard engines, but they also offer calibration upgrades. We caught up with Simon Gishus for an insight into their dyno cell and engine calibration capabilities.
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On that subject; we need now a boat project.
We recently released an R33 Skyline tee if that fills the void. 😜
Excellent video! I think this is the future of marine training as well, allowing inspiring marine technicians to see inputs and outputs in a controlled environment, boosting troubleshooting skills! 👏👏Love it!
Happy to lean in on a project boat...😉
@@markoz673bajen8 if you get a boat do we get to get it back with free up grades. I have a 2014 20 fx skeeter with 250 sho. New powerhead
I've never learnt so much in 11 minutes. Fullboost always delivers! Cheers Luke & Geordie.
Nizpro have always been industry leaders. I remember many years ago being blown away with their rb30 engine development. They are always 1 step ahead of everyone else.
Simon Gishus has forgotten more about motors than what most of us know about them. No nonsense, no mess, all business. 👍 People forget that he is the OG creator of the 1000hp RB40, doing it years before others were coming close to 1000hp with their "2K Barras". 💪
@VinnieKoltes The RB40 IS the Barra, you absolute dimwit. 🤣🤣 Educate yourself Mr.Vinnie's bin about the OG Nizpro ARBEEFORDEE! 💪
th-cam.com/video/U2fopUdSQoI/w-d-xo.html
@VinnieKoltes No, it wasn't a typo, it's a long running thing due to the Barra and the RB having a near IDENTICAL block design and bore spacing in the block. Even major RB companies like Nitto have bought into saying "RB40" for a normal or "RB38" for their destroker Barra. The fact you decided to turn around and try to discredit my comment without knowing what you were talking about opened you up for an insult. So if you can't handle that, not my issue fucktard. 🤦👎
RB40 is referring to a Barra :)
@@fullboost I want RB40 on a shirt Luke/Jordo. Make it happen, pretty please. 😘😁
Gay gay GAY!!!
10,000 pushrod v8 or dont brag at all.
This guy is the mechanic I think we always wanted to be..... Great work Simon
I wish all dyno operators were this accurate. Just wow! So impressive!
Very impressive. This guy oozes knowledge of his craft and all of it with a total lack of ego or BS.
Thanks FB, as always.
Everything he just talked about is 100% spot on. The man knows his business. Can't tell you how many times I've watched so many mistakes being made on various dyno channels and they will argue the points you bring up. Now you know you are mostly watching entertainment instead of research & development.
Thanks
Super interesting video. Love the variety you guys bring on this channel.
Under represented topic on TH-cam thanks for the video
Great video about a subject that very few have ever thought about.
Met simon when I was 18 at Calder Park. We were the first to arrive for the Friday night street drags and was suprised that this guy from "that" tuning shop Nizpro wanted to come chat to me about my car instead of his new at the time orange BA XR6 turbo. A genuinely nice bloke.
Nice to have an explanation that is so detailed and completely understandable. Thanks for sharing.
Once again I've gone away thinking after one of your videos. So interesting and informative 👍
Well done mate, awesome job!
@fullboost Phenomenal video! So much information provided, about the incredible amount of data gained, and how it is done in a valid, repeatable way!👍
First time I have seen any thing by Simon, although I have heard of him and his work before. I’ve subscribed and liked, I want to know more👍
This man is very very knowledgable of combustion engines of all forms. A def magician of power . Nizpro is no joke . Love this company
This marine dyno is next level hardcore....done soo well
Great vid easy to forget that car engines are not the only engine people modify...
Imagine putting one of them engines in a small car !... over 600hp and near 500pf. A super mini..?
I remember your early foray into marine awesomeness and am very happy to see Nizpro still innovating big tim.
This was the best marine engine power related video I have seen to date. I would NEVER have thought to keep the power head on the lower unit (and the difference it makes with the exhaust tuning EVEN with a fourstroke) to keep numbers matching in real time.
they've been doing it that way for a long long time . they have all different sizes of waterbrake dynos for the propshaft, and all you need is a garden hose (obviously of sufficient pressure). this way is certainly better for what they are doing tuning-wise, but is extremely expensive.
love the honesty and a company who gets it
The best barra tuner in vic. They tuned my rig years ago and supplied nothing but excellent service, expertise, and parts. Legends! Well done Simon and the nizpro boys.
yet dynomite in melb have the fastest and quickest street and drag car records,.. not saying nizrpro are shit buttttt Dyno mite in footscray are the king of Barras World wide.
Tell me im wrong an ill suck your dick
Really interesting... I hadn't heard about Nizpro in ages, but they are still killing it . Great video
Totally amazing..this guy is living my dream..I wish I had money and work for him. This is just awesome for outboard enthusiasts
i wish we had marine grade stuff in cars, those engines prob built way better than any car engine is because its made to hold high hp power at high rpms for hours on end which no built car engine does
I'm a mechanic and boat enthusiast and every word this guy is saying is just gold 1000% accurate and is the way I've been talking for 20 years ..if u want more power look at your setup first u could be sitting on 20-100hp with no actual mods just temp control
That was mad as! Simon knows his stuff!
What a mad video boys something different on the channel I like it alot 👌
One of the best videos I've seen from you guys. I love that you cover all different areas of motoring. Super impressive.!! 👍👍👊👊 Check out more of the Aussie diesel stuff as well please.
This is cool, well done to Fullboost for a variety of engine performance genres.
Great content, always learning, thanks
One of my Favourite video in a long time. Super informative and accurate. I've met Simon and I can say I've also met some legends in the outboard community Like Ron Anderson of Mercury Racing Fame. Simon is right up there.What Nizpro are doing is making waves it the USA. Pretty impressive for an Aussie company. Whilst not being a Yamaha man I've felt the power of the 450 and I can tell you it's a Beast. Great work Fullboost for bringing us great cutting edge content.
It makes perfect sense to go down this path. There's generally no speed limit on the water, apart from 6 knot zones, and the registration doesn't increase with cylinder amounts or power, unlike fast cars. A screaming twin turbo big block with no mufflers is all okay on the water, not so much on the street.
Stopping is the issue on water...
He's 100% spot on, on every point.
That was very informative. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for putting the dyno at the start!!!
I had a very entertaining chat with Simon years ago where he made his thoughts known on Malpassi fuel regs! 😂He was spot on though. 👍
Yet another great video. Very smart guy!
Super super super super cool video Robin's.
You can usually tell when someone really knows what they're talking about. This guy definitely knows his stuff.
He's a beast 🤣 !! God I love outboard motors , the Merc 300 V8 was always my favourite ⚡⚡
Thats so Awesome love the everything HP content That has more HP then most cars 👍🔥
Man that was very insightful.
A very very methodical guy . Super Smart 👌. Love his tenacious attention 2 detail . Superb quality 👌
Marine dealership in New Orleans had the hub dyno and water tank. Just rotted away They were into drag racing at one time. This is concise and proper.
Where’s this spot in New Orleans?
Incredible dyno !!
One of the fondest memories of my life is running a Merc Racing outboard on a prop shaft dyno in the late 90’s. Every single person at our tech school came out from class like WTF!
Would have loved to seen that myself.
I found this video refreshing
Best video I have seen in a long time
This fella talks nothing but pure interesting stuff really enjoyed this thanks 😎🇬🇧✌👍👊
So freaking awesome. He thought about everything!
Keep this shit coming boys...wicked vid
Damn it, now I'm going to start buying and modifying boats as well as cars. Thanks alot Fullboost.
Another killer vid boys, something different 👍
Let's be honest they are industry leaders!
I remember years ago the orange f6 that went 9secs.
Let's see you guys make more records on the water 💪
That was cool, something different.
great video, never seen an outboard dyno. i would guess that there is a huge untapped market for these kinds of performance mods for outboards.
Bloody good video
This man builds engine packages. He's not just handing you a pretty Dyno number he's giving you a real power number you can expect to put into the water under real circumstances. With the lower unit attached using the cooling it will have on the boat with ambient air temp and not just the first run numbers but the numbers it made after everything is hot like it would be in use or even hotter because it would have alot of airflow on the boat. You would be surprised how often an engine builder will feed an engine they built for a customer high octane fuel with more ignition advance, cold Dyno water pumping through the cooling system, air conditioned air going into the intake with 30 weight oil and no accessories to get that real nice number. Then once in the car with hot coolant, hot air, pump gas, alternator water pump power steering and less timing advance it's down 60-100 horsepower or possibly more in some cases. I dunno I just feel like it's shady to do that. For example any work I do for someone I do my best to make sure the customer knows exactly what is going on, what's being done, ways to make it better or cheaper without compromising quality and just in general what they get for their money. I would Dyno their engine as close to real world in car conditions as possible knowing I built it myself to my high standards. If I'm selling you a 500 hp engine to me it needs to make that number with its own water pump with the air cleaner on it Etc. This is probably why all of my customers continue to bring all of their stuff to me and recommend me to everyone. The other week my truck broke down and a customer just gave me their keys and said use mine and it's making a little sound when I hit bumps. Give me a call when you are done.
That was a really great video. Especially since I'm sitting here scratching like a junkie from the fibreglass working on my boat today 😄
As a boat guy, this is super cool my boat needs 8.2L to make 380hp 😬
This was awsome to see!
Should put a boat engine in yr subie make it more bettera. Call it SubTitanic
Unreal !!!! great work 🇦🇺 🔥
Thanks mate!
🎉❤ I appreciate this video very much ❤🎉
Fantastic video. Had never even considered marine dynos!
Always wondered myself how outboard manufacturers came up with their HP numbers ..... This is the first outboard dyno I have ever seen.
This was very interesting, good to see people’s passion evolve
I used to use a portable hydraulic marine dyno. Biggest problem was overheating at wot. Some motors like Suzuki and Volvo need pressure and flow blasting on the water inlet screens to cool like it’s cruising through the water.
Boats aren’t necessarily my thing. But I love IC engines in all forms. Bikes, cars, boats planes and trains, you name it. Add high end performance to that and love it even more. 2 stroke or four stroke. A well built engine pulling hard and running up in rpm, nothing beats the roaring heartbeat thundering against your chest. You know what I mean.
That is a very, very cool dyno
Killer video 👍🏻 do a video with some of the engines that get built for boat racing
Amazing video.
Anyone remember Nizpros twin turbo Ferrari and built 350z back in the day?
Yeah I remember, 355 ferrari around year 2000 👍
Be nice if this upgrades available to the Nispro Dealers someday in the USA.
amazing power out of a V6
This dude knows some serious shit. Wow, fun just listening to him tech babble.
It would be interesting to see stock dyno numbers on outboards. It seems like the OEM's don't advertise them.
Don't know sh1t about boats but this is cool af.
i used to build 2 cycle outboard racing powerheads. the looper was a good one but the Mercury chrome bore V6 was a scary monster, they don't even wake up until they hit 4000 RPM then from about 5 to 9000 you had to hold on to something. You can still find them attached to bass boats, put that shit on an 11 foot hydroplane and win stupid prizes
Simons always been a very difficult person to deal with and quite rude too. Even more so since he smashed his head in that boating accident😂
Have a look in the mirror mate. You're laughing about someone having an accident in their boat.....
@@landcruisertoyota3980 He’s just a very arrogant person, and many people would say the same. I spent $30k with the bloke over 10 years and he was a rude prick every time.
Smart know doubt, but people want to deal with nice fellas, not pricks.
DSR boys had enough of him too!
SeeYa!
Everything said above is 100% accurate.. truly had an awful experience with the “shit” pro himself
Comes with the territory - from personal experience in a couple different fields. Take a very close look at the running telemetry and tell me he is not far ahead of almost all of the dyno operators. The live cylinder pressure and knock connected to an excellent ECU are worth their weight in gold while tuning.
That’s great! Good job !
I also believe it is lots of work for marine engines which don’t last long …..
Extremely interesting. Science.
Great going Simon! How about some high speed runs in one of the Force boats
Very Impressive!
Amazing tech!! #bankspower should have a look at this dyno.
Very cool. I do like boats and want to get myself a half-cab fishing boat later in the year. My budget only extends to a 2-stroke though.
A lot of people have got plenty of power from 2 stroke boat engines over the years bro.
This is so badass.
Something different 👍
If the water that the propeller is sitting in doesn't flow in a direction the propeller should create an air cavity around the propeller, resulting more on the dyno reading... Am I wrong?
What an awsome career to build for yourself
Geniusssssss!!!!!🚤🚤🚤🚤🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Wondering why they didn't make a dyno at the prop instead of at the crank .... I wonder if the way they are doing it at the crank which would be considered brake HP if you would take off 15% like on automotive dyno's and that would be the actual HP at the prop ..... This was a pretty neat video.
What the ….., didn’t realise how complicated marine engines are
Man I wish these engines had the good looks of 7 marine or the newer evinrudes. I have a 78 glastron I redid and it has one of the 7 marine engines on it. It's had a lot of work done and I push about 750hp now. However it always worries me that some day it's gonna need parts and since 7 just is gone just sucks. You'd think that would be enough but I've got one of the newer evinrudes on my bass boats. And a 89 checkmate deep v that I put a Mercedes cls63 biturbo v8 in. All of these are delicate engines but man are they nice and quick and loud. There's nothing like a good cammed v8 blop sitting at the ramp making all the dudes jealous and their girls wanna ride with me instead. Right now I'm rebuilding my 2000 kawasaki stx900 swapping the motor from a audi rs3 that I got super cheap from the salvage auction. Can't wait to see what it sounds like with a turbo 4 banger
@2:55 he mixes up vertical and horizontal.
Let’s see some merc’s up grades 😊. Real performance machines 😉.
This is too cool 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Clever guy...they always love JDM stuff...
Why’s the flywheel at the top of the engine and not connected to the business end through a clutch or torque converter? I’m sure someone’s put one in a hot rod, haven’t they?
Great video! Have you sheared a crankshaft flywheel snout? I’m asking because that snout was never designed to be a PTO to the dyno.