@@tinaprice4948 I've seen people do that with a straw or airbrush, but you can just use a brush with the gloss gel medium. I haven't personally tried the straw thing myself though.
I've been using Woodland Scenics Realistic water for YEARS. Its my go to for sizeable water features. My favorite part is there's no having to mix two parts together, the smell is not as strong as some of the 2 part resins, and if I need murky or colored water of some kind I can add a tiny amount of Liquitex Acrylic Ink (my preferred ink), the ink will not effect the water in any way other than coloring it.
I love your channel - so much good info and showing the fails is just as valuable as the wins, we all have dealt with project that went south. If you need a break from crafting I'd suggest another video where you show how you use your terrain to build a better encounter. The two vids you did like that were two of my favorites of yours. So few channels are talking about methods and strategies for running the game with terrain.
Agreed those are a series I would also be interested in seeing. But may I request you don't take too much of a break you are the inspiration... I wasn't going to build this map at all... and you changed my mind with your optimism. #do-both lol
Woodland Scenics does make a product called Water effects that you can add on top of the Realistic Water that will give you the ripple effect your looking for with ease
As is always the way, with crafters and artists, you're the only one who doesn't like it. It looks great. So glad this other product worked better for you
I am actually in the process of trying to build out this room, though I am going for a more modular approach. Some good tips from this video, though, that I think I might be able to apply to my project. Great work!
@@StorycraftSociety I hear you. I considered doing the same, but as I already did a full-sized build of the Cragmaw Castle, and have NO idea what I am going to do with it once we're finished with it, I opted to try for a modular method. I am creating a whole new set of cave tiles based on your videos, but for the water tiles, I am designing a set inspired by Dwarven Forge's cave lake set. Just need to finish them up! Your video regarding not worrying about matching the module maps exactly when setting out the tiles was a big inspiration, too.
Just found this channel, and I'm definitely subscribed now. 😁 Also, what I use to make any kind of water is called 'pro marine supplies Epoxy' with mica powder. And if you add a small amount of white pearl it gives it a beautiful shimmer with some depth. And if you want a flatter finish, file down the foam. Anywhere you have raised foam, it will cause the top of the 'water' to rise as well. I'm excited to see what's next 👍
What exactly were the paint colors you used? I like the look and color transitions, but have no idea what this lost map thing is you were talking about.
If I recall, the Geek Gaming Scenics channel, I'm pretty sure he uses some stuff out of the tube that is like Lexel but he puts some in a cup and mixes isopropyl alcohol in to thin it and make it easier to work with and smoother. Unless what he's using the UK is significantly different.
The whole reason I started using lexel is because of watching Luke, lexel is the alternative I’ve found here in the US, but I haven’t tried thinning it yet with anything… I’ll have to try that one of these days!
The real measure of these products is how they look in a year's time. I did a whole set of rivers using Vallejo's product and after a while they began to peel up on the sides leaving an ugly white rim that I had to just paint over. I'd be doubting Woodland Scenic's is any better. Any old hands have advice?
Best way to make slow ripples vs fast moving water, is just plain old gloss mod podge, and an airbrush - or, if you don't have an airbrush, just blow through a straw onto the mod podge. Check out Luke Towan's video here - th-cam.com/video/yygwun1cdug/w-d-xo.html - for an example of the finish it gives. Just go in sections at a time, like 2 or 3 square inches, blow on it to create ripples, then keep moving along the surface. It dries fast, and looks insanely realistic and good!
Well…. Shit. The fact that I’ve been using matte nod podge to make my black magic craft base coat, which is a 50/50 mixture of black acrylic paint and matte mod podge, and I never knew about this trick is….. kind of annoying, not gonna lie.
So I do believe modpodge is basically PVA but I went to Google/reddit Here is what I found Is it the same a PVA? Yes. Is it identical? No. Polyvinyl Acetate type II is the main ingredient in ModPodge, white school glue, wood glue, and a variety of other water based adhesives. Different products contain different tackifiers and fillers. PVA is also formulated in three different types. Type I has low water resistance, type II has better water resistance while type III has good water resistance and is generally suited for outdoor use. furthermore, Modge Podge is a type of PVA glue similar to Elmers but with a higher moisture content, its thinner. Its also works better with inkjet prints rather than Elmer’s glue that’s been thinned with water. Its designed for mounting paper to a solid substrate like, wood panel, Foam Core, Gator Board, etc. Modge Podge does not smear the inkjet printed surfaces like modified Elmer’s will. Modge Podge is designed to be ink agnostic as it was developed for decoupage. There is no better way to glue and mount a print, poster, magazine page, art prints, product labels, craft paper etc than using Modge Podge with a foam brush. If you want to try the a water thinned PVA glue do a test first. If it smears use Modge Podge if not your good to go with the water thinned PVA glue. This is what I consider to be the best responses. Although it appears you had no issues when using MODPODGE I wonder if a higher water content would be problematic?
Do you know what I’m sick of??????!!!!! No matter what I do to prep my water space, it seeps through the foam. Today I’m trying-yet again-a new technique: hot glue, mod podge, plaster cloth and then modeling paste. I’m out of ideas-and really not sure why simple plaster cloth with extra plaster wasn’t yesterday’s success. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
High Gloss Gel Medium is great for making ripples in water. Regardless, this build really turned out amazing. Fantastic Job!
Do you know of any tutorial videos on this method, thank in advance !
@@MiserySage I can't think of a specific video off the top of my head. I do know there are several scale model and model train videos on it though.
and then using a straw to blow small ripples right?
@@tinaprice4948 I've seen people do that with a straw or airbrush, but you can just use a brush with the gloss gel medium. I haven't personally tried the straw thing myself though.
Awesome! I’ll have to try that! Thank you!
Try woodland scenics water ripples. It will give you the smooth wave look you want.
I've been using Woodland Scenics Realistic water for YEARS. Its my go to for sizeable water features. My favorite part is there's no having to mix two parts together, the smell is not as strong as some of the 2 part resins, and if I need murky or colored water of some kind I can add a tiny amount of Liquitex Acrylic Ink (my preferred ink), the ink will not effect the water in any way other than coloring it.
I love your channel - so much good info and showing the fails is just as valuable as the wins, we all have dealt with project that went south. If you need a break from crafting I'd suggest another video where you show how you use your terrain to build a better encounter. The two vids you did like that were two of my favorites of yours. So few channels are talking about methods and strategies for running the game with terrain.
Agreed those are a series I would also be interested in seeing. But may I request you don't take too much of a break you are the inspiration... I wasn't going to build this map at all... and you changed my mind with your optimism.
#do-both lol
Thank you! I’m sure I’ll be revisiting that series soon!
Thank you!
Hey Garmin, you may thin your epoxy with isopropyl alcohol to get a smoother surface. Do a small experimental pool for mixture amounts.
Damn good tip, Garmin is the one that taught me about using it when gluing flocking down, in order to get the PVA to dig deep!
Great TIP!
Oooh, that could work! I’ll have to try that!
I used it and like it. It dried and shrunk, I did a second pour to overcome the shrinkage! Worked well.
Really like the paint on the second cave.
Thank you!
Woodland Scenics does make a product called Water effects that you can add on top of the Realistic Water that will give you the ripple effect your looking for with ease
I’ll have to find some of that!
Excellent shirt!!! Greetings from Germany
As is always the way, with crafters and artists, you're the only one who doesn't like it. It looks great. So glad this other product worked better for you
Well, I’m my own worst critic. But thank you!
Nice Hat.
Nice job for the second time around the water is nice and clear :D
Thank you!
Looks great!
Thank you!
I am actually in the process of trying to build out this room, though I am going for a more modular approach. Some good tips from this video, though, that I think I might
be able to apply to my project. Great work!
Thank you! Modular would definitely get more mileage, I was just trying to keep this one as close to the book as possible
@@StorycraftSociety I hear you. I considered doing the same, but as I already did a full-sized build of the Cragmaw Castle, and have NO idea what I am going to do with it once we're finished with it, I opted to try for a modular method. I am creating a whole new set of cave tiles based on your videos, but for the water tiles, I am designing a set inspired by Dwarven Forge's cave lake set. Just need to finish them up! Your video regarding not worrying about matching the module maps exactly when setting out the tiles was a big inspiration, too.
Modpodge is PVA but has a matte finish
Thank you!
Just found this channel, and I'm definitely subscribed now. 😁 Also, what I use to make any kind of water is called 'pro marine supplies Epoxy' with mica powder. And if you add a small amount of white pearl it gives it a beautiful shimmer with some depth. And if you want a flatter finish, file down the foam. Anywhere you have raised foam, it will cause the top of the 'water' to rise as well. I'm excited to see what's next 👍
Awesome! I’ll have to check that out! And thanks for the tip!
What exactly were the paint colors you used? I like the look and color transitions, but have no idea what this lost map thing is you were talking about.
If I recall, the Geek Gaming Scenics channel, I'm pretty sure he uses some stuff out of the tube that is like Lexel but he puts some in a cup and mixes isopropyl alcohol in to thin it and make it easier to work with and smoother. Unless what he's using the UK is significantly different.
The whole reason I started using lexel is because of watching Luke, lexel is the alternative I’ve found here in the US, but I haven’t tried thinning it yet with anything… I’ll have to try that one of these days!
For a pour that size, how much of the bottle did you end up using? It looks really nice, great work.
I was actually hoping you were just gonna pour over the screwed-up one from last time, to get a cool underwater cave-in effect. Ah well..
isnt mod podge what everyone uses for water effetcs on resin?
Aye, the gloss version.
Mod Podge is like 90% PVA glue.
Hi I'm Italian. I wanted to ask you if you have found effective methods to simulate water. Thanks in advance. Greetings from Italy
Great video just go.back to bed or get more sleep
The real measure of these products is how they look in a year's time. I did a whole set of rivers using Vallejo's product and after a while they began to peel up on the sides leaving an ugly white rim that I had to just paint over. I'd be doubting Woodland Scenic's is any better. Any old hands have advice?
Hi! What paint did you use to give that natural water color under the realistic water? Thanks
It comes in a set with two blue paints
Some Shrinkage will occur - I WAS IN THE POOL!!!!
Happy early festivus!
Can you thin this down if you want with isopropyl alcohol?
How about trying some toilet paper with Elmer's glue try any conspicuous spot and see if it works
Best way to make slow ripples vs fast moving water, is just plain old gloss mod podge, and an airbrush - or, if you don't have an airbrush, just blow through a straw onto the mod podge. Check out Luke Towan's video here - th-cam.com/video/yygwun1cdug/w-d-xo.html - for an example of the finish it gives. Just go in sections at a time, like 2 or 3 square inches, blow on it to create ripples, then keep moving along the surface. It dries fast, and looks insanely realistic and good!
Well…. Shit. The fact that I’ve been using matte nod podge to make my black magic craft base coat, which is a 50/50 mixture of black acrylic paint and matte mod podge, and I never knew about this trick is….. kind of annoying, not gonna lie.
So I do believe modpodge is basically PVA but I went to Google/reddit Here is what I found
Is it the same a PVA?
Yes.
Is it identical?
No.
Polyvinyl Acetate type II is the main ingredient in ModPodge, white school glue, wood glue, and a variety of other water based adhesives.
Different products contain different tackifiers and fillers. PVA is also formulated in three different types. Type I has low water resistance, type II has better water resistance while type III has good water resistance and is generally suited for outdoor use.
furthermore, Modge Podge is a type of PVA glue similar to Elmers but with a higher moisture content, its thinner. Its also works better with inkjet prints rather than Elmer’s glue that’s been thinned with water. Its designed for mounting paper to a solid substrate like, wood panel, Foam Core, Gator Board, etc. Modge Podge does not smear the inkjet printed surfaces like modified Elmer’s will. Modge Podge is designed to be ink agnostic as it was developed for decoupage.
There is no better way to glue and mount a print, poster, magazine page, art prints, product labels, craft paper etc than using Modge Podge with a foam brush.
If you want to try the a water thinned PVA glue do a test first. If it smears use Modge Podge if not your good to go with the water thinned PVA glue.
This is what I consider to be the best responses. Although it appears you had no issues when using MODPODGE I wonder if a higher water content would be problematic?
Thank ya’ Gnomey!
Do you know what I’m sick of??????!!!!!
No matter what I do to prep my water space, it seeps through the foam.
Today I’m trying-yet again-a new technique: hot glue, mod podge, plaster cloth and then modeling paste.
I’m out of ideas-and really not sure why simple plaster cloth with extra plaster wasn’t yesterday’s success.
🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
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