@@christyt4249 yup. The powers that be say there's nothing on the tapes that we don't already know. I call bs there has to be something on them that they don't want us to know.
I was down there at those times when matson was recruiting young persons,I 'm thankful I never met him. I was 18 I did meet a older man nicknamed God doing the same thing for his commune.
The answer is the OCCULT, for reference see; ‘The Philosophical Research Society’ in LA & ‘Esalen Institute’ also of California, specifically the lectures on ALCHEMY by Manly Hall & Terence McKenna. Another lead are the books from Dave McGowan, but I did enjoy O’Neill’s book btw & find him fairly honest & I’m glad he’s addressing the Sirhan issue because Manly Hall is connected there, whether he pops up in O’Neill’s research is another question….
@@mattdelany6799 ya, in H.A.Lansings docu-series on YT u can see that she is way more together than O'Neill, tho i think he was good with interviewing witnesses/ leads, he has that harmless detective Columbo vibe, people might underestimate him, (sounds like Bugliosi did that & regretted what he told ONeill) but Lansing is calm, measured, relentless in her follow up & doesn't lose perspective, i think O'Neill was overwhelmed & as he says, this project aged him.
"Kill the pigs. Acid is groovy.". The creepy utterance of candle holding Susan Atkins, as these heinous crimes were committed in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, back in February 1970. Excuse me, Helena Stoakley.
Yes. I can recommend Ed Sanders book as a juxtaposition to the book Helter Skelter If nothing else. But that is quite an old book when originally published & Ed was all over it from the jump.
I have nothing against taking apart cases and going down the rabbit hole with conspiracies and trying to disprove official stories. What I don’t believe and what really makes people like this lose credibility, is when they try to tie them all into one grand perpetrator and one grand master. Blaming “the government” for all conspiracies is both silly and lazy
I thought there was more current information about the tapes. The lawyer is dead, and the law firm doesn't exist. It would be interesting to know who has custody of them.
Conflicted about the book and O’Neill. In a way I like the fact that he never gives his input or speculates about why but considering he is an expert and has access to A bunch of information that we don’t I would him in interviews at least to just give us his opinion. I feel like he’s just opening us questions and leaving it empty.
@@theblakex yeah like I said, I like it in a way that he just lets the facts speak for itself but he kinda leaves a lot open and I wish in interviews he’d just say “if I had to guess this is what I think happened” I feel like he’s the most qualified to give his opinion but just doesn’t. He also has seen and has access to stuff no one else has seen so just give an opinion
@@jstewardjr well documented but he stops short of telling us what he thinks happened, just leads to a bunch of doors but doesn’t open them. It’s not about getting sued, he could just say interviews “I think this the most likely option”
@@jstewardjr CHAOS is the last word on this tragedy. Bugliosi's Helter Skelter pales in comparison. Bugs lied about a lot of things in his book....he got rich from it anyway. Sad.....and so unfair.
Its planned but I think Tom is still collecting and compiling information before he sets out to put it together. Considering that he took 20 years to write chaos it will probably be a while before the next one gets out
@@jeffdean7666 ...such as "who was manipulating Manson'....and 'other people involved'......please dont be gullible because some hack wants to sell books.
SIrhan Sirhan is an odd duck in that he has never admitted or taken any kind of responsibility for the RFK murder. He remembers nothing and others claim there was another shooter in the kitchen.
There absolutely was another shooter. There were more bullets recovered or accounted for than Sirhan's gun could hold & it's proven that he never reloaded. Thats the most basic & provably obvious fact but there are at least as many highly unusual points as there were shooters in his brother's murder. In other words, at least three. Umm, it just came to me! Thane Caesar or Caesar Thane, one way or the other, he was an L.A police officer moonlighting as a security guard at the RFK event. He was literally right behind RFK.
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The LA - DA office is fighting tooth and nail to not release the tapes. This is madness.
Good luck, those tapes and Marilyn Monroe’s little red book are in same place as jimmy hoffa.
Right.👍
If you could have one of thoes come to lite....Hofa Redbook or Tex tapes which one would you choose?
@@Mo-sk7xo The Tex Tapes .. for sure.
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The truth is on those tapes, but we'll never get to hear what's on them
You are right!! There has always been so much more to this infamous case. And now the individuals, directly involved, are starting to die off.
@@christyt4249 yup. The powers that be say there's nothing on the tapes that we don't already know. I call bs there has to be something on them that they don't want us to know.
Tom is awesome man. I can’t wait to read the next book
I was down there at those times when matson was recruiting young persons,I 'm thankful I never met him. I was 18 I did meet a older man nicknamed God doing the same thing for his commune.
The answer is the OCCULT, for reference see; ‘The Philosophical Research Society’ in LA & ‘Esalen Institute’ also of California, specifically the lectures on ALCHEMY by Manly Hall & Terence McKenna. Another lead are the books from Dave McGowan, but I did enjoy O’Neill’s book btw & find him fairly honest & I’m glad he’s addressing the Sirhan issue because Manly Hall is connected there, whether he pops up in O’Neill’s research is another question….
CHAOS
is the best Manson book PERIOD
fascinating read
Jess, H Allegra Lansing’s book is the best book on the subject. Hope this helps you.
@@mattdelany6799 thank you Matt
@@mattdelany6799
ya, in H.A.Lansings
docu-series on YT u can see that she is way more together than O'Neill,
tho i think he was good with interviewing witnesses/ leads, he has that harmless detective Columbo vibe, people might underestimate him, (sounds like Bugliosi did that & regretted what he told ONeill)
but Lansing is calm, measured, relentless in her follow up & doesn't lose perspective, i think O'Neill was overwhelmed & as he says, this project aged him.
@@mindsigh4 well the 20 years also aged him
@@mindsigh4 it’s H. Allegra Lansing if anybody else is interested in looking it up
Please get the next book out!!!!!!!!!!
That would be awesome to know!
"Kill the pigs. Acid is groovy.". The creepy utterance of candle holding Susan Atkins, as these heinous crimes were committed in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, back in February 1970. Excuse me, Helena Stoakley.
I've heard there is a connection. I think TIME Magazine article of Manson was on the coffee table. I can't think of his name
Killin it man!
o'neil isnt trying to pull rabbits out of a hat, just that everytime he looked into that hat there were more and more rabbits
Read Ed Sanders book The Family. Then read O'neil's book Chaos great journalism
Yes. I can recommend Ed Sanders book as a juxtaposition to the book Helter Skelter If nothing else. But that is quite an old book when originally published & Ed was all over it from the jump.
How long do those tapes have before they start to degrade??
Nicholas Shreck has the best and most straighforward research on the murders. O'Neil is trying to pull rabbits out of hats and sell books...
What does Shreck say about the killings?
Incredible!
I have nothing against taking apart cases and going down the rabbit hole with conspiracies and trying to disprove official stories. What I don’t believe and what really makes people like this lose credibility, is when they try to tie them all into one grand perpetrator and one grand master. Blaming “the government” for all conspiracies is both silly and lazy
I thought the RUDy Altobelii quote and the Paul Watkins evidence was worth the price off of Amazon
I’ve read the book twice. And I’m still not sure what you’re referring to.
@@paulvoorhies8821 Wow, third time lucky maaan
What quote? What evidence?
this is the movie that QUENTIN TARANTINO should have made.
I thought there was more current information about the tapes. The lawyer is dead, and the law firm doesn't exist. It would be interesting to know who has custody of them.
Lapd has them
Conflicted about the book and O’Neill.
In a way I like the fact that he never gives his input or speculates about why but considering he is an expert and has access to A bunch of information that we don’t I would him in interviews at least to just give us his opinion.
I feel like he’s just opening us questions and leaving it empty.
He has to do it that way or else he'd get sued. You can't make accusations in a published book.
You should read his book. Incredibly well documented.
@@theblakex yeah like I said, I like it in a way that he just lets the facts speak for itself but he kinda leaves a lot open and I wish in interviews he’d just say “if I had to guess this is what I think happened”
I feel like he’s the most qualified to give his opinion but just doesn’t. He also has seen and has access to stuff no one else has seen so just give an opinion
@@jstewardjr well documented but he stops short of telling us what he thinks happened, just leads to a bunch of doors but doesn’t open them.
It’s not about getting sued, he could just say interviews “I think this the most likely option”
@@jstewardjr CHAOS is the last word on this tragedy. Bugliosi's Helter Skelter pales in comparison. Bugs lied about a lot of things in his book....he got rich from it anyway. Sad.....and so unfair.
Manson killed no one illusion
Is this additional information important?
Is there a new book after chaos ?
Its planned but I think Tom is still collecting and compiling information before he sets out to put it together. Considering that he took 20 years to write chaos it will probably be a while before the next one gets out
Yea no kidding he really does his homework , fascinating stuff , thanks for getting back to me just seeing it now for some reason lol
Mae Brussell knows why this happened.
Well, Im just going to say that Manson wasnt that bad a musician in my opinion.
Look at yo game girl
Deep dirty
First!
All hearsay
Are you saying the tapes don't exist? That's hearsay on YOU
You may as well say the tapes don't exist BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER SEE THEM ..
Fake Story
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BS
@@jeffdean7666 ...such as "who was manipulating Manson'....and 'other people involved'......please dont be gullible because some hack wants to sell books.
@@pendox99 - gee bud - does the LAPD pay well?
@@lgar2554 I wouldnt know.......does selling BS conspiracy theory pay well?
@@pendox99 - have u read the book?
@@lgar2554 , LOL....do books pay well?
SIrhan Sirhan is an odd duck in that he has never admitted or taken any kind of responsibility for the RFK murder. He remembers nothing and others claim there was another shooter in the kitchen.
There absolutely was another shooter. There were more bullets recovered or accounted for than Sirhan's gun could hold & it's proven that he never reloaded. Thats the most basic & provably obvious fact but there are at least as many highly unusual points as there were shooters in his brother's murder. In other words, at least three. Umm, it just came to me! Thane Caesar or Caesar Thane, one way or the other, he was an L.A police officer moonlighting as a security guard at the RFK event. He was literally right behind RFK.
@@evryhndlestaknalso the fact that the autopsy showed all the shots came from behind RFK
Did Manson really get a traffic during the same time as the murders as he, Manson, claimed?