Alpha XPC Yoke Review | PC & Xbox Compatible | Still best bang for your buck for Flight Sim?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- The Simhanger Channel review of the Alpha Flight Controls XPC Yoke. How does it compare to the original? Includes brief tutorial on set-up and use in Microsoft Flight Simulator and tested on Xbox Series X.
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holly cow so long waiting for it O_o
As an xbox user, I do have the
Turtle Beach yoke and rudder pedals which I do love esp the pedals. But that throttle quadrant, is very alluring
In Australia the combined price of the XPC yoke and throttle quadrant is $1,118. And that's not including the hub. Adding that bumps it up to $1,200. Can't justify that price over the Turtle Beach which I picked up at launch for $479. I don't doubt that the Honeycomb is better quality considering the stickiness in the V1. But the price here is probably out of reach for the average Xbox gamer.
I continue to enjoy My Alpha and Bravo eh!
Just purchaised too. I am excjted to see how it works.
The thrustmaster boeing yoke is both Xbox and P.C. compatible,
It is smoother and more precise than the honeycomb yoke,
It also makes the thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Xbox compatible as it plugs directly into the yoke.
Hi Mark, I am thinking of purchasing the alpha and bravo to use with an Xbox series X for MSFS. I note another flight sim U-tuber said that they weren't able to get the bravo gear indicator lights or annunciator panel lights to work when using the bravo with Xbox. I can see from your video you’re using the bravo with your xbox. I was wondering if you experienced a similar problem and if so were you able to fix it? Cheers rob
How does trimming work? Do you trim while slowly letting the yoke retract back to its zero position? Or does it stay in place like irl?
Hi Mark - just upgraded from the original to XPC and initially thought the Elevator and Ailerons were not working, After trying many things started to look at sensitivity and things improved- Do you have a sensitivity recommendation for the XPC ( PC use) ? thanks in adavance
This may seem like a silly question, as i am just starting out with the Flight Controller. Can I just purchase the ALPHA FLIGHT CONTROLS XPC to operate a small plane or do I need the Throttle quadrant and Hub as well for the X Box X system.
Great
Can you use ALL the buttons in the yoke and the throttle quadrant on msfs on xbox?? Like the autopilot, start, lights.. basically everything?
Xbox Users rejoice and Another well presented video and dooo have a Good Week end. PS you have the best video for setting up the Alpha Yoke And Bravo Throttle Quadrant
Thanks for yet another excellent review.
I have the original Alpha and Bravo and at the price point they are, for what it's worth and in my opinion, significantly better than the competition, including the Turtle Beech V1 which was admittedly a little cheaper than the HC combo (I previously owned the TB and eventually sold it on).
The Bravo quadrant in particular is stunningly good value given the features and build quality it provides - indeed on reflection it seems to me under-priced and, knowing what I know now, I would happily have paid more as I don't think anything else in this price range comes close.
The Alpha yoke is amazing value too. This new variant/edition will be great news for Xbox simmers and appears much the same as my 'old' Alpha, excepting the upgrade to hall-effect sensors and the now spring-loaded magneto/starter switch. Also noticeable is a change to the illuminated front panel which I think does look a little better. The hall-effect sensors I'm not so concerned about as my old PC only Alpha feels very fluid and sensitive in any case but I do wish I could just upgrade the starter switch because this has always been a minor niggle for me (but not enough to warrant buying the new version as I don't use the Xbox for simming at all).
I think your comments are juvenile, irresponsible and inconsiderate of MOST of the flight sim community. Just because you can afford to foolishly throw considerable amounts of money away on a hobby, does not mean most others are that ignorant or compulsive. People have families to take care of, and can't spend all their money irresponsibly because they live in their parents basement. The prices of these peripherals are TOO HIGH, and thus Honeycomb has priced MOST of the flight sim community right OUT of its customer base. By doing so, they infuriate a large section of this community, and that is just bad business. It's also a horrible business plan to price your product in the top ten percent of a community of hundreds of thousands. They could actually make more money by pricing it into a more common price bracket, and thus gaining most likely more than a 40% increase in their customer base. Pricing for the top ten percent is shortsighted and narrow minded. See Russell Murray's comment just below mine as exhibit number one... His situation is EXACTLY the situation of MOST of the flight sim community.
Hi what type of computer would I need?
Wht processor, memory or graphics required? Could you recommend a computer from Amazon that already meets those parameters
Mark, Is it possible I can use my alpha and bravo pc version on the Xbox ? Thanks.
I went with the Thrustmaster TCA yoke on sale for £250 as I didn’t like the fact there’s so little roll resistance on the Alpha. I saw someone turning it with their little finger. The Thrustmaster has great pitch and roll resistance, combined with the Bravo I got on sale for £150, and am very happy with this combination.
Great review and insight as always.
I’ve tried the TCA Yoke, I would say the roll resistance is much the same.
@@SimHangerFS Mark, Do a video for the Xbox community on different engine configuration for the bravo. No such video exist out there.
Can I hook xox yoke straight to my computer
So will the Logitech rudders work on my Xbox with the hub?
Thank you for the nice video. Is it possible to connect a second Honeycomb Yoke to fly with a copilot in the same room?
Technically yes, although MSFS will only see one unit, but shared cockpit is not supported unfortunately.
@@SimHangerFS Maybe I should try to connect two Xbox hubs.. idk. Hopefully it will be possible on MFS 2024. thank you :)
Hi Mark, million dollar question, if like you I already own and use the original Alpha yoke, would I notice much of a difference (would it be worth it) for the expense of buying the updated one? Apart from the improved starter switch etc, is there any markable improvement in performance? Your thoughts appreciated, thank you.
If you have the original, no benefit to get the new one unless Xbox compatibility is needed.
My current PC won't handle MSFS 2020 so a nice PC update would cost me around $4 ,000 or $5,000. An X-Box would cost me around $500, hard to justify paying that kind of money if you only won't to run MSFS 2020? Seems like X-Box might be the way to go given honeycomb controls are now available? Thanks for the nice review!
I have and XBOX series X which I bought for MSFS. Did not want to spend $$$ for a gaming PC when I use apple products. I have the alpha and bravo combo and couldnt be happier. I also have the turtle beach V1 which is great as well for the money.
@ensorgumbs which yoke system would you say is better and why?
They still have an issue with the annonciator LED and autopilot LEDs not active on the Bravo using XBOX !!! I have both and i still waiting for an update on MSFS2020 to be able to use it like PC users.... :(
Hey, Can you confirm to me that I will be able to use the both Alpha yoke and bravo with XBOX using all the buttons and stuff? Thanks
I have the Saitek yoke currently (yes I know it's not very good), how does it compare in terms of the elevator control? I'm constantly struggling to make small adjustments.
exactly
I used the Saitek yoke for years, it’s good value. The resolution (degree of movement recorded) is about X4
@@SimHangerFS Guess I know what I'm saving up for next then :P I already got the throttle quadrant and couldn't be happier with it.
@@SimHangerFS That's the real problem with Saitek/Logitech - they haven't upgraded their products for years! They're just 'milking the market' now.
hello, do you know if I can use the Logitech G rudder pedals and the honeycomb XPC on the Xbox series S? I can’t find if the Logitech pedals are compatible with the Hub of Honeycomb
I believe so, but have never tried it personally with the Xbox.
ello I have a VERY important question to ask. I just ordered online via amazon the joke and the quadrant from honeycomb... the bravo quadrant & the alpha yoke.. NOW it's for xbox and someone just told em that it's mandatory to have the honeycomb HUB also to have the quadrant working...... I have ordered just the quadrant and yoke, not the Hub.... so can you please tell me if the HUB is MANDATORY to have it both work on Xbox? I am getting worried now and can't see on any on your video where you speak about it.. THANK you and looking for your answer
For PC no hub required. For Xbox you need the hub to connect the throttle quad.
Hello again, sorry for asking a lot of things, but do you know if I need to install some software or something for the Logitech G rudder pedals?
Also regard of my las comment about using the Honeycomb flight control on my Series S and also using the Logitech G rudder pedals with the honeycomb Hub, my pedals just arrived, I am just waiting for the Honeycomb Flight Control to arrive and I hope it is compatible
MSFS recognises the pedals directly. There is a driver, but you don’t need it.
@@SimHangerFS thanks!
Hi great video as always, I'm still watching as I type this message so it is possible you could answer it still lol. My question is you said it was compatible with logitech for xbox but it wasn't clear if it was compatible with logitech and PC. I have a Thrustmaster t16000m HOTAS and was wondering if the peddels and throddle would work with this on PC vr ??
You don’t need the hub for pc. Just connect the Logitech units directly to usb ports.
So is that a no for thrustmaster ? Sorry probably an obvious question but still learning 😮😂
@@SimHangerFS I have a Thrustmaster t16000m HOTAS and was wondering if the peddels and throddle would work with this on PC vr ??
@@123thedman1 yes but not through the hub, direct connection.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks for taking the time, that's why you my main guy on flight sims. Your the real deal, genuine person. Thanks again.
Hi Mark/Every one. I have a big problem. when using xbox controller and alpha xpc & Bravo on XBOX Series X at the same time, when I press pause or xbox home button on controller, after returning to game the yoke/hotas on the airplane suddenly moves to the most left side! even when after deactivating all rudder, pitch, role (left stick and LT, RT) on controller, it happens again. I don't know what to do!
The is a conflict somewhere. Suggest create new config from scratch for your controller by selecting NEW from the preset manager
I would like to know if I can just use the alpha flight control without the Bravo controler. A Bravo controler was far too complicated for me to use but the Alpha controller is very easy for me to use but I cannot get it to work by itself.
Yes you can use the Alpha only
I'm just getting back into Flightsim after 20 years away. I used to have the CH Yoke for FSX, which I found quite good at the time. The original Alpha Yoke has just gone on sale at Curry's for £150, which seems like a bargain, and I don't have (or intend to get) an Xbox, so is it worth paying the extra £110 for the XPC? It sounds like all you get for the extra money is slightly smoother sensors and a spring loaded start switch. How much smoother is the newer version? Is it £110 smoother or are we talking a small percentage difference? Also, did they fix the imbalance between the tension of the roll vs pitch axis in the newer version? I heard multiple people moan that in the original, it was quite hard to pitch up and down and very easy to roll. How is it on the new one?
If your not getting Xbox then no need for XPC
@@SimHangerFS So you don't notice a difference in smoothness? I saw a pilot reviewing the Yoko vs the original honeycomb and he was saying the Yoko is 3 times more sensitive than the original Alpha (so similar to the XPC) and it's noticeable when trying to maintain precise altitude, especially when low to the ground at high speed. What are your thoughts on that?
@@mdhazeldine the Yoko is also much more expensive. The XPC resolution is much higher (x3), than the original, but the difference in sim, once your sensitivity settings are adjusted, is minimal. Note the original HC yoke is no longer in production. Grab one while you can.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks for the expert advice! The Bravo throttle is also on sale for £150, but I'm not sure I want that just yet as I already have the Thrustmaster Airbus throttle. Do you know if the Bravo is also being discontinued or if that deal is a "grab it while you can" type of deal or does it often get discounted like that?
@@mdhazeldine Bravo is here to stay.
Hi Mark, i found a second hand Honeycomb Alpha (not XPC version) + Bravo Throttle + Thrustmaster rudder for 500€. Would buy this or buy latest XPC version ?
If your on PC then snap it up 👍
Yes, i'm on PC. Got it, thanks :)@@SimHangerFS
@@eldjoudilaouedj5200 👍
Was a little disappointed with mine. I find that the yoke’s elevator motion is not as smooth as the original. I also sometimes experience I little sticking sensation when pushing and pulling the yoke slightly. Maybe it needs bedding in? Mine also had scratches on the back glossy side as well. Not noticed the extra resolution that the hall sensors provide in the yoke either.
I haven’t experienced any stickiness, but only been using it for about a week now.
I have found the stickiness aswell. It was so bad on my old one I got it replaced and had it for a day and I can barely feel it which is disappointing
@@SimHangerFS hello I have the V1 of turtle beach, do you think the stickiness is less in the honeycomb? Because I have found a lot of stickiness in the v1
@@animatedchristmascollector3754 hello I have the V1 of turtle beach, do you think the stickiness is less in the honeycomb? Because I have found a lot of stickiness in the v1
@@pepeiglesias9603 yes the Honeycomb is not sticky.
Does this work with the Xbox one?
Bought Alpha yoke and Bravo throttle for xbox, but can't get Bravo to work. I am very disappointed. Feels like the money was wasted. Might have to look around for something else. :-(
You need the hub for the Bravo. Make sure the Alpha is the XPC version.
Does this work with Xbox one s
Is it nesseseary to buy the hub with the yoke if i am using Xbox?
Not for yoke, providing you get the XPC version
Thanks!
Sorry I meant cbox
I feel like their throttle quadrant is a bit too extreme
I may be wrong, but this sounds like a similar offer to the one Huddison received - a Honeycomb representative making contact to apologise and send a yoke (with import duties) after the cancellation of the initial order for most (all?) of the UK. Great gesture, but the cynic in me thinks that this is a damage limitation exercise because they've been shamed in public on TH-cam... The product may be excellent, but their customer service sucks. Regardless of how good the product is, I'll never do business with a company that conducts themselves as badly as Honeycomb have.
Their public relations leaves much to be desired over the last few years. Let’s hope they can improve their service and support services in line with their product quality.
too bad what's going on with the company
Agreed.
Too bad they went out of business.