Honeycomb Yoke Review | Alpha Flight Controls
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- The new yoke from Honeycomb (Alpha Flight Controls) is now starting to ship for pre-orders. We take a look at the yoke and its innovative mounting options and give it a go in a short flight. We also take a look at how to configure this yoke for your flight simulator, including P3D, FSX and FSX SE as well as Xplane 11.36.
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LINKS
Honeycomb Aeronautical: flyhoneycomb.com
Aerosoft (Europe distributors): www.aerosoft.com
CREDITS
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the-clouds-and-wing-from-the-aircraft by Martin Vorel.
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See the calibration and configuration follow up video here th-cam.com/video/_J7QuQusncE/w-d-xo.html
You are way underrated!
Mohamed Fayaz , thanks, I keep telling my wife that! 😂
A review I didn’t want to end. Great review, others should take notes from you sir. Thanks but one question as I am new into flying sims... besides the yoke are other things like a quadrant or rudder needed to fly or is yoke enough to configure for all your needs?
Sam Sayed , hello Sam. You can configure the buttons on the yoke for various actions or interact in the cockpit with your mouse. Rudder and throttle do make it a little easier and more realistic and is recommend. Regards
I tried it for about 5 minutes at my local pilot shop in xplane. I was very put off by the significant difference in feel between roll and pitch. Range of motion in pitch is far lower, but less relevant. The resolution of the yoke is great, but when an aircraft is in trim and you're landing there is no resistance. My CH might not have the range or resolution for precise handing, but the feel is far more stable and natural. CH feel with honeycomb features and we'll have a winner
Great review Mark.
Clear and consise descriptions, nice camera work.
Ordered the Honeycomb Alpha. Now I only hope it arrives on the 19th Aug like predicted.
So wholesome!😀
Hello, thanks for the great review. I'm currently a student pilot with my checkride on June 8th and am anxiously awaiting for this sim to come out. Do you have a recommended throttle quadrant/rudder pedal set to run alongside this yoke?
Robert Knight , hi Robert, for TQ it will depend on how much you want to spend, Honeycomb Aeronautical are launching a great option later this year. See my latest video Honeycomb Product Roadmap. Also check out Virtualfly and Logitech for the basic option. Rudder pedals are Thrustmaster or Logitech. Regards.
i have just got it today, thank you for video! The difference between honeycomb one and saitek yoke is like night and day. The rubbing sound when pushing in and out is actually the same as in the real Cessna C172. I can't wait to set it up (my table is too thick) and start flying with it!
Very good review. Just got it for the upcoming FS2020 (a week to release from this writing). Hopefully the company will add an FS2020 config driver. Very good video. I like the yoke too.
can you use the honeycomb throttle quadrant for flight simulator x 2006year?
Does anyone know if the honeycomb will mount on a playseat airforce chair? Even honeycomb couldn’t answer me.
Hi Mark. Will this work with a Mac? Thanks
Will work with xplane, needs usb 2 minimum.
so the ga profile attached to a prop plane in manage drop down list still needs to have functions edited, right?
Eric C , yes edit it and then save it under another name so you keep the original ga profile for future use. Regards
Thanks very much Mark for your informative and professionnal video, once again.
I'm waiting patiently for mys Alpha Yoke, it'll arrive when it arrives : during the wait I fly real airplanes.
Do you have any idea if it's possible to use the mags/start switch with a twin engine aircraft ?
Thanks again for what you're doing for the community
Pierre Varnet , hi Pierre, thank you for your kind words. I have not tried it on a twin yet, but in Xplane I think it is possible by configuring both left magnetos to the same position etc. I will try it out. Regards
Nice review👍👍.Right now i want to buy a yoke but i can't decide between Logitech saitek and honeycomb.I was thinking to add a bit more money to buy honeycomb because it seems worth the money.
Eelmin3 , hello, I have both, go with the Honeycomb would be my recommendation.
@@SimHangerFS thank you so much
I dont fly cessnas and this yolk seems to be geared towards SMALL PLANES. $250 is WAY TOO MUCH MONEY for a yoke that is filled with dead zones. You would think that HONEYCOMB would be fixing this issue instead of having to go into the product to void the warranty and start splicing wires to fix the DEAD ZONES! Could also have FORCE FEEL. HELLO! 9 out of 10? Really? I would say 6
Mihaly Freeman , hi Mihaly the yoke can be used for all aircraft, but as you say, more focused on smaller aircraft, however the same applies to all yokes < $250 to be fair. There were a small number of yokes that needed recalibration apparently on release, but the movement resolution on the travel is the best we have seen in a product at this price. The dead zone is the smallest we have seen compared to most yokes, and you do need a small dead zone otherwise you will get “ chatter” it’s around 1.5%. Regards.
good morning Mark. I've just set up my Honeycomb yoke, all was working fine. Then out of the blue the hat switch and mouse stopped looking around only though inside the cockpit. I've even uninstalled and reinstalled the sim, but still no joy. Hope you can help. Cheers Ron.
Hi Ron, what sim are you using?
Literally sitting in my garage, waiting for delivery. Wanted to watch a review to stave off premature buyer's remorse.
Thank you, kind sir, for the relief.
Steven L. Korell , hi Steven, hope you don’t have to wait too long. This yoke is best bang for your buck in my opinion. Stay safe. Regards
Thank you. If only I had mine! Ordered 10 July, getting a little fed up now. One thing for those who have Satek yoke & throttles to note is that the in order to use the Honeycombe yorke with the Satek throttles the old yoke has to be placed somewhere because the throttles do not have a PS2 plug has first thought so the connection with the Satek yoke must be maintained. Lets hope Honeycombe get their throttles out quicker.
Hi Michael, I meant to mention the PS2 issue, thank you for reminding me. It is a valid and important point and I will add it to my pinned comment above. Hopefully you will get yours soon.
Does the yoke and throttle connect to the computer by a USB 2 port? I have a Asus Z170 A motherboard with USB 2 and 2 ports.
Yes usb 2 ports.
Excellent video, looks like a great yoke.
NO YAW, nightmare!. Dont buy
great, i have one and didnt know the back wheel screw down thang.
I hope you will be doing a tutorial on the very basics on how to set up and map buttons on the Alpha XPC and Bravo for use on Xbox.
Well, that was my intention….but Honeycomb just cancelled my order placed on 6 July! I’m in the UK.
Great review! Do we know if it's compatible with the Logitech/Saitek panels?
skindreads , yes no problems.
@@SimHangerFS Awesome! Thanks!
This or the Logitech Yoke?
High Frame Rate , hi, Honeycomb wins, hands down in my opinion. Regards
I love it. It’s just waiting until august 18th
SimHanger Flight Simulation How far back does the clamps extend below the desk?
I'm new to flight simulator, would this be everything you need to get started ?
Yes it will get you started. Throttles and rudders are also a consideration. Regards
@@SimHangerFS Thanks for the reply ! I have received my alpha flight controls, I'm ordering the Logitech G Saitek Rudder pedals
and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle
to get started, but I'll move on to the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant
end of september!
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The lag between you turning the yoke and the plane turning looks awful??
Hi Paul, Filmed separately then edited together, the problem is not the yoke, its my poor editing skills!
@@SimHangerFS Thank god for that then ha-ha I am looking to purchase this yoke and I was really put off by that footage, no offence by the way! Thank you for taking the time to reply 👍🏻
Is the sticky pad to secure the yoke to the table reusable? Does it leave a residue? If I were to remove it often would it loosen over time? Thanks for your review, it is most helpful.
Adam Lozo , hi Adam. Yes it is reusable. It leaves no residue. I use the clamps, but I would guess it would lose its traction overtime. Regards
Great Video. One of my questions was if there was any feedback. Glad to hear there is. I go to a sim center on occasion and they have a very expensive yoke with feedback and that is a feature hoped to be able to get at home. I have Xplane 11 which I got with the Saitek / Logitec yoke, throttle quadrant and pedals. I am going to upgrade to honeycomb soon. Thanks! I like the look of the Honeycomb quadrant as well, I want to be able to start the King Air engines one at a time, as you would in real life.
DC Oliva , thanks for your comments. Please note this yoke is not force feedback enabled. Regards
The best review I've seen so far of this product, thanks for posting. I hope the issues will be sorted by the time FS2020 arrives in one weeks time from now.
Thank you for the review and recommendation!
TJ Kross , hi and I appreciate you taking the time to feedback.
I have had the new yoke for a few days and it works well for x-plane11 planes that are included in x-plane. I have used it with the Cessna 172, The Beechcraft Baron, and the Cirrus FS. But the Mooney I purchased as an add on plane is a different matter. The yoke buttons all work. The ignition switch works. But none of the other switches work. I seem to be able to use other functions from the x-plane option menu, but none of the lights, and master and avionic switches work. Of course, Mooney would have to be my favorite plane. I also have FSX on steam and downloaded the configuration file but nothing at all works and like you said, the instructions are not very useful. I can't see how to get FSX to even see the configuration file. It is really hard not having throttle controls but have ordered one from Logitech which hasn't come yet. Waiting eagerly for the Throttle from Honeycomb. Do you have any advice on getting the switches to work for an add-on Mooney from X-Aviation? Thanks
Mike Wauge , hi Mike, have you seen my config video. You can link to it here th-cam.com/video/_J7QuQusncE/w-d-xo.html . Some aircraft have their own bespoke configuration for some actions, PMDG for example are well known for this. If this is the case getting it configured manually is often next to impossible unless you have a way to find out what link is being used. Wish I could be of more help but I don’t have that aircraft. Regards
Thank you for the response. It probably isn't possible to configure it. I also have FSX Steam which isn't nearly as good as X-Plane but since there is a Honeycomb configuration download for FSX I maybe be able to configure it outside of FSX. I enjoy your videos and will continue watching them in the future.
Does the bravo thruster also have the same mounting mechanism?
Yes it does.
@@SimHangerFS that is awesome thank you
The backlight makes the yoke look like a toy.
Redridge07 , you can toggle it off...as I do. 😁
this would be a great yoke for the new P38 in IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Bodenplatte
The English Manual is now available (Should I say German with English below) - just re-download & install.
Bill Bray , thanks for watching and for the update.
can i start 2 engines on the yoke? if so how? thanks.
I received my Honeycomb yoke on the 15th October 2019, after a two month wait, and I have to say it was well worth the wait.
The yoke is very well put together, and the mounting clamps ensure they yoke doesn’t move. I only fly Boeing jets in my FSX, and the yoke has a nice heavy jet feel about it.
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Master Yoda , hello and thanks for contributing. May the force be with you down-under! The yoke is a great addition to flight simming.
Good afternoon SimHanger, After viewing your initial vid on this product I prerecorded myself one of these units. I have been awaiting your unboxing\setup/testing of the unit. Outstanding review. Now I can wait for mine to arrive. Thanks for taking the time to create this vid. Looking forward to your next commentary of this product (possible during a full fight using the Alpha yoke) . Once again thank you. Flight Straight and level.
KnightShadow , thanks for your feedback, made my day. I will definitely be using this yoke on flights in the future. 😁
i'm curious about dimensions of unit for my desk space? is there a throttle or do i use joystick throttle? thanks so much for such a clear vid,
Eric C , hi Eric, the “bravo” throttle unit is due for release mid 2020. No throttle on the yoke. You can use with third party products. Regards
thanks for your swift reply.
A review of the newly released Honeycomb yoke. A look at what you get, mounting options and how to configure the yoke for your flight simulator (P3D Xplane FSX FSX:SE). What do you think of this yoke?
One point I forgot to mention in the video is that the Saitek throttle quadrant....if purchased with the yoke as a set ...then it comes with a PS2 connection. There is no PS2 connection on the Honeycomb yoke. If you purchased the Saitek throttle quadrant separately then this was sold with a USB connector so you could still use it, but there are no spare connectors on the Honeycomb yoke so you will have to plug it into a spare USB port on the PC or a hub. The Yokeinput program has been updated and now includes an English set of instructions.
Can this be mounted to a Wheel Stand Pro like the Saitek yoke? I have the Wheelstand instead of desktop.
Walter Hurdle , hello, I am not familiar with the wheel stand pro, so I can’t be sure. If you use the Saitek clamp to secure your yoke then you should be okay with the Honeycomb. Regards
Cheers Mark from Mark in San Francisco California! I’m glad I found yer channel. Pip pip Cheerio Mate from across the pond.
Toodle loo 😀and thanks for watching
SimHanger Flight Simulation “Toodle loo” wtf’ lmafo
Mark Loren Fahey , hi Mark, it’s a very old fashioned very English way of saying bye when addressing a friend. 😂😂😂
Did you just say 5 year warranty ! Holy Crap ! Getting one in 2020 . Great review . thanks
Yes Sir...5 years...with free lifetime replacement for the bungee cords if needed. Thanks for watching. Regards
this or the logitech saitek fligth yoke system with throttle ???
Honey Comb are making a throttle quadrant . I hope they make peddles soon also .
@@trip5003 it was released but sold out
Hi Oscar, for me... my choice is the Honeycomb yoke every time. You can still purchase the Saitek throttle separately, they are compatible, both need their own USB slots though. The Honeycomb throttle is under development, no date yet announced, but expect around mid 2020. Thanks for watching. (Note that the throttle quadrant that comes with the yoke as a set ...has an old PS2 connector). Regards
@@SimHangerFS this guy has one honey throttle th-cam.com/video/APKSiKwksuA/w-d-xo.html
Can’t find one in the uk anywhere
Dave V hi Dave, demand with lockdown has been high. New stocks late October. www.scan.co.uk/products/honeycomb-aeronautical-alpha-flight-control-usb-5-axis-21-button-180-yoke-rotation-universal-panel-m
SimHanger Flight Simulation thanks for that, I think October is the month it’s going to be available everywhere, I was disappointed that my sidewinder pro wasn’t compatible. I’ve used that for many years, I’m sure I’ll be glad to have the honeycomb though. As it happens just before your message came through I found a company that just happens to be based at Shoreham airport and that’s very close to me, so I ordered it from there at a good price. Good excuse to go to the airport and watch some planes
transair.co.uk/pilot-training/flight-simulation/simulator-yokes-and-pedals/honeycomb-alpha-flight-controls
Creat video! I received the fantastic yoke a few days ago, and the first thing is that I am delighted! but I have noticed the picth very hard. My question is, is this how it is in real life? or is there any way to make it softer? Thank you very much in advance! excuse my english
Oscar Villodres , hello Oscar, the tension on the yoke is more realistic than the Saitek yokes and closer to real world yokes. The tension in the honeycomb Yoke is created by bungee cords and I would not recommend trying to adjust this. Change the sensitivity on the yoke axis to 100% try it and then adjust to suit you. I had to change this setting (in your flight sim) to get the type of response I wanted. Regards
@@SimHangerFS thanks for your quick response! I will try what you tell me. thank you
i wonder if you c ould give me and others the selections for starter switches for xp. thanks.
Make sure your yoke is connected. Start Xplane and go to settings then Joystick. When you move the starter switches the function assined to them will be highlighted. To change click on edit. There is a search bar at the top. enter in there what you are looking for. For example ''engine start'' will show option for autostart. or ''starter'' and you will see options for each engine etc. assign a new function, click save/OK and your done. Save the profile under your own name or something suitable. Hope this helps.
@@SimHangerFS thanks so much
Great review as usual
Macintosh1838 , thank you.
how do i set up profiles for an airplane . .x-p11.41
Eric C , it’s in the video. See 9:06 Set the buttons and switches using the edit function then save it as a profile, you can give it a name of your choosing.hope this helps. Regards
For when on XBOX?
August 2022
Another yoke with lots of deadzones !!!?
Kaushal Vyas , hello Kaushal, I have seen various reports on dead zones with the Honeycomb. Not my experience however. Recommended.
@@SimHangerFS Hi Sir...thanks for the input....can we set the sensitivity on all axes ?
Kaushal Vyas , you can in your chosen flightsim. You can set very accurate response curves in Xplane for example. Regards
@@SimHangerFS Thanks again for promt confirmation...I am now searching best option to buy it ...I am from India and want to explore best possible option to get one ...
you say its for prepare and fsx what about xp11
Eric C , it’s in the video. See 9:02
What about throttle?
It’s here th-cam.com/video/xQG5eAp_qjc/w-d-xo.html
@@SimHangerFS thank you great video
Hi Mark, just found you and subscribed! Thanks for this report. I received my yoke last week. Like you very impressed. I know you’ve mentioned the calibration settings below. Can I ask you to clarify what settings you are using for both axis, please? I am finding with my current setup turning requires a considerable turn of the yoke compared to the real flying I have done in the past. Elevators probably need more pressure than needed. Do you use FSUIPC for calibration at all? Best, Keith.
KEITHGEE1000 , hello and thank you for the sub. Much appreciated. I will be doing a more detailed set up and calibration video at a later date. The easiest and quickest way to change the response times on your yoke is to use the calibration settings in your flight sim. All axis on the sensitivity settings are set at 50% by default. The higher the sensitivity the more responsive the yoke. Experiment with different settings until you find what suits you best. Regards.
Ok thanks. What about null zones? Best way to test those?
KEITHGEE1000 , hello, what flight sim are you using? P3D. I am not using FSUIPC.
Hi Mark. P3D.
KEITHGEE1000 , the axis sensitivity is between 1 and 127. I have mine set to about 120 (default was 64 I think). The yoke uses good quality potentiometers so you can turn down the null zones to 1 if you want (default is 36). I found anything from the default to 20 was fine for me. Remember that different aircraft will react differently. For example A2A aircraft operate and respond best on max sensitivity. Carenado on the other hand you may need to tweak the null zone from time to time. FSUIPC is an option if you want different settings saved etc. If your looking for realism and flying an older bird, the Connie for example, you would turn down sensitivity as these aircraft were not as responsive as the more modern ones. Hope this helps. Regards
Received mine today. Wow! If only I could get the yoke switches on the yoke itself going, like the hat switch etc. Isnt registering in FSX:SE
Sandgroper Bear , hi, silly question but you have connected the yoke to main body with the supplied cable? If so you should be able to configure it in FSX SE directly. Make sure the cable connectors ‘’click’’ in. Worst case you should be able to use the default configuration, make sure you download the FSX yokeinput configurator from the flyhoneycomb site. Regards
@@SimHangerFS That was it, figured it out about a minute after I wrote this, sorry about that. Thank you for your quick response, I was crashing in my rack for the night by the looks of it. Wow, its beautiful. Its almost like being able to see again.
Hi Mark, great video very professionally presented and polished, great work. I had a play with this and their throttle at Cosford and was very impressed. I already have an ACE B737 yoke which is excellent but I will be getting the throttle quadrant when it arrives for sure.
Daryl Barber , hello and I really appreciate your generous comments. I also tried out the upcoming throttle quadrant at Cosford and was impressed. It will be great for flying the tube liners! Regards
Not much of a review if you only have one other yoke to compare it to.
wildgoobsid5 , hi and thanks for commenting. I currently only have the Saitek Cessna pro-flight yoke, however as you can see from the video, I am a “seasoned” flight simmer. I have owned and used many different yokes over the years, most of them CH Products or Saitek. This Honeycomb is a cut above the norm.