I know I'm really late to the party on this one, but I started my PPL a few months ago, and the first time I flew the Piper PA-28, I was very surprised by how heavy the pitch axis was once you are airborne. I have this yoke for my home setup, and I have to say the weight of the pitch axis is very close to the feeling of the real aircraft in flight. The light aileron control is pretty close to spot on as well. I would say this is as close as you'll get to the real thing without paying for a force feedback setup.
Great quality video. Had one for over a year. Am on my second one as first one developed “wobble” with the main shaft. Had to return to aero soft in Germany. They paid for all the courier services and get the replacement in less than 2 weeks.
@4:28 : "I do wish there was a little less force needed for pitch, and more for roll..." This is where a little experience flying a real airplane makes a difference in how you see things. I have been playing sims since I was a little kid, so the first time I ever flew a real plane, I was very surprised at how strong the control resistance was in the pitch axis. Keep in mind this was an airplane with no spring mechanism to center the controls. The centering was provided solely by the airflow pushing on the elevator and trim tab. It's also one of the things that makes every yoke I have tried so far unsatisfying to use. Not enough resistance, and thus not enough stability in pitch. I hope to buy one of these yokes soon, and I hope it works better than the ones I have tried before.
I'm looking to get into flight sims as a training aid for my real life flying. This looks awesome. Ik this isn't considered a starter setup per say and I'm definitely not exactly swimming in money to throw around, but the 180 degrees rotation was a non negotiable for me as my setup NEEDS to feel as close to the real thing as possible for it to be practically applicable to my training. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Thanks for the review!
This was an older review but the Honeycomb still holds up. So does the Bravo throttle Quadrant. It's just unfortunate Honeycomb are still struggling a bit.
I bought this after flying on an X52 pro for the last 5-6 years. it's definitely the thing to upgrade first. The Logitech pedals and throttle quadrant are good enough and there are plenty of other budget options to compare, I've not seen stuff around this price as good for GA flight.
I've always been a fan of Honeycomb although not of their way of doing business lately. They've let a lot of people down. I'm hoping they can turn it all around.
@@g-locmedia I heard Honeycomb have some problems and people are not sure about the future of the company and if its worth buying their products because noone know what will happen to guaranty service. I could not find any specifics about whats happening tho. Do you still would recomend this yoke? I wanna move from flight stick. Whats the drama is about?
I recently purchased the Honeycomb yoke and it is good and bad. Good: quality product and FYI the weight is necessary to give it the quality feel. Lots of buttons and switches although not all are (at least for me) the correct ones. Out of the box it is plug and play. CONS: Breaks. I ended up using the #1 button ( smart camera) for the break and put parking brake on my throttle master. A trigger style brake switch (like a slot car control) would work better for me. No nose wheel control for steering. I assigned the nose wheel to the ailerons which is by far not the best but it works ( taxi speeds must be super slow to make a turn). I felt the pitch tension bungee cords were way too strong. After watching a few mods on this (pilots trying to get a smaller bungee cord at the right tension) I designed a mod using 2 small springs instead of the bungee cord and no need to take anything apart. See a video link below. The missing 'starter spring' would be nice but hey... pitch tension video mod : th-cam.com/video/0sbCdSdzQ8Y/w-d-xo.html
Only thing l don’t like is no feed back on the yoke which makes trimming far harder. On a real aircraft trimming is quick and easy not to say important.
Would it be possible to 3D print a collar that would slide over the momentary switch to fit into the hole it protrudes through to stiffen up the button?
Thanks captain I want to ask you How about multi engine functions Can I use the magneto switch for 2 engines Can I switch between them by one magneto switch Thanks
Let me jump in here. You can make that one magneto switch work with either engine #1 and then next work with engine #2. I hope you can follow this: In MSFS controls screen, type in the word magneto in the search window to see how the Honeycomb magneto switch is mapped. In other words to see which MSFS commands are shown for each position on the switch. Now make different mappings but use the same type of commands that you see already in the sim, but for magneto #1 and magneto #2 instead of for all magnetos. For magneto #1, just use the same single command for each switch position. But for magneto #2 use two buttons simultaneously (the white push button and the magneto #2 switch position button). (MSFS allows you to push 1, 2, or even 3 buttons simultaneously to work the function. Here we are using 2 buttons). If you followed that, here's how to use: Do not press the white button and turn the Honeycomb magneto switch to start engine #1. Now push the white button and turn the Honeycomb magneto switch to start engine #2.
Yeah its gotten a massive deadzone and as a student pilot the pitch is very good but the roll so super loose, other than that I would love to have had a fuel pump or parking brake switch
@@maximusheronimus23980 it’s not bad by my recommendation would be the Turtle Beach as it comes with everything for GA and commercial flying. I did a review on it. Check back on the channel.
@g-locmedia Yo bro so basically Im looking to buy flight sim hardware and im looking for a quadrantl , rudders and a yoke which replicated that of a boeing 737 any reccomendations anyone?My budget will be a total cost of under £1000 for the hardware.Thanks in advance
You should look at the Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke pack. I've never reviewed it before but its a fairly decent yoke. As far as rudders go the TM rudders are really expensive. I'd maybe try Virpil.
@@mythravi2424 No, not as far as build quality and yoke feel are concerned but its better suited to what your looking to fly and also I'm not sure about the status of Honeycomb at the moment. However the honeycomb gear is quite nice. I still run the throttle on the big sim.
I would highly advise that you do not buy a CH yoke. Quality is decent as I've had mine for over 20yrs. The main issue is you don't have full 180' deflection from neutral position. I fly real airplanes and like using a sim instead of chair flying when I haven't flown in a while. Using the CH was like learning to fly all over again because the aileron movement is not true. It's actually oversensitive due to not having 180' deflection.
I know I'm really late to the party on this one, but I started my PPL a few months ago, and the first time I flew the Piper PA-28, I was very surprised by how heavy the pitch axis was once you are airborne.
I have this yoke for my home setup, and I have to say the weight of the pitch axis is very close to the feeling of the real aircraft in flight.
The light aileron control is pretty close to spot on as well.
I would say this is as close as you'll get to the real thing without paying for a force feedback setup.
great feedback based on your experience mate. Thanks for sharing
Great quality video. Had one for over a year. Am on my second one as first one developed “wobble” with the main shaft. Had to return to aero soft in Germany. They paid for all the courier services and get the replacement in less than 2 weeks.
Never heard of that happening before. Great that they replaced it so quickly though. Thanks for your comment on my video.
@4:28 : "I do wish there was a little less force needed for pitch, and more for roll..."
This is where a little experience flying a real airplane makes a difference in how you see things. I have been playing sims since I was a little kid, so the first time I ever flew a real plane, I was very surprised at how strong the control resistance was in the pitch axis. Keep in mind this was an airplane with no spring mechanism to center the controls. The centering was provided solely by the airflow pushing on the elevator and trim tab. It's also one of the things that makes every yoke I have tried so far unsatisfying to use. Not enough resistance, and thus not enough stability in pitch. I hope to buy one of these yokes soon, and I hope it works better than the ones I have tried before.
A force feedback you is the way to go for the best experience. Check out my Brunner review.
I'm looking to get into flight sims as a training aid for my real life flying. This looks awesome. Ik this isn't considered a starter setup per say and I'm definitely not exactly swimming in money to throw around, but the 180 degrees rotation was a non negotiable for me as my setup NEEDS to feel as close to the real thing as possible for it to be practically applicable to my training. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Thanks for the review!
This was an older review but the Honeycomb still holds up. So does the Bravo throttle Quadrant. It's just unfortunate Honeycomb are still struggling a bit.
Wow.! Love the honesty in the review
Thank you
I bought this after flying on an X52 pro for the last 5-6 years. it's definitely the thing to upgrade first. The Logitech pedals and throttle quadrant are good enough and there are plenty of other budget options to compare, I've not seen stuff around this price as good for GA flight.
I've always been a fan of Honeycomb although not of their way of doing business lately. They've let a lot of people down. I'm hoping they can turn it all around.
@@g-locmedia I heard Honeycomb have some problems and people are not sure about the future of the company and if its worth buying their products because noone know what will happen to guaranty service. I could not find any specifics about whats happening tho.
Do you still would recomend this yoke? I wanna move from flight stick. Whats the drama is about?
I recently purchased the Honeycomb yoke and it is good and bad. Good: quality product and FYI the weight is necessary to give it the quality feel. Lots of buttons and switches although not all are (at least for me) the correct ones. Out of the box it is plug and play. CONS: Breaks. I ended up using the #1 button ( smart camera) for the break and put parking brake on my throttle master. A trigger style brake switch (like a slot car control) would work better for me. No nose wheel control for steering. I assigned the nose wheel to the ailerons which is by far not the best but it works ( taxi speeds must be super slow to make a turn). I felt the pitch tension bungee cords were way too strong. After watching a few mods on this (pilots trying to get a smaller bungee cord at the right tension) I designed a mod using 2 small springs instead of the bungee cord and no need to take anything apart. See a video link below. The missing 'starter spring' would be nice but hey...
pitch tension video mod : th-cam.com/video/0sbCdSdzQ8Y/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's great for anyone thinking of buying one to see what others think.
Lack of steering is not con. Rudder pedals are for steering. Taxing in a real GA plane is done at a walking pace, so that's not an issue either.
Only thing l don’t like is no feed back on the yoke which makes trimming far harder. On a real aircraft trimming is quick and easy not to say important.
Very true. You might like my video on the Simionic FFB yoke.
$300 what do you expect 😂
Would it be possible to 3D print a collar that would slide over the momentary switch to fit into the hole it protrudes through to stiffen up the button?
what throttle quadrant would you recommend to use with this but on a budget ?
Is it for GA flying?
Saitek pro flight throttle quadrant.
@@seanr_Z71lol that is a joke ass toy
Im about to pick up one of these. I wanna be a pilot soon
I’ve seen a lot of training sims with them.
Lol rocking the warthog aswell and absolute flex, all you need is the xpc now lol
Lol. Would love the xpc but at the moment the price is still a bit high.
Having to return mine now. Had for about two years. Now when you push in the yoke, it’s turns hard right.
Really! Wow. Never thought I’d see that with a honeycomb product
Dust...
Thanks captain
I want to ask you
How about multi engine functions
Can I use the magneto switch for 2 engines
Can I switch between them by one magneto switch
Thanks
Yes you can. You can do the right, left or both.
Let me jump in here. You can make that one magneto switch work with either engine #1 and then next work with engine #2. I hope you can follow this:
In MSFS controls screen, type in the word magneto in the search window to see how the Honeycomb magneto switch is mapped. In other words to see which MSFS commands are shown for each position on the switch. Now make different mappings but use the same type of commands that you see already in the sim, but for magneto #1 and magneto #2 instead of for all magnetos.
For magneto #1, just use the same single command for each switch position. But for magneto #2 use two buttons simultaneously (the white push button and the magneto #2 switch position button). (MSFS allows you to push 1, 2, or even 3 buttons simultaneously to work the function. Here we are using 2 buttons).
If you followed that, here's how to use: Do not press the white button and turn the Honeycomb magneto switch to start engine #1. Now push the white button and turn the Honeycomb magneto switch to start engine #2.
I have a PC but use mic. flight sim on the xbox launcher will it work?
Great accent and program.
Lol. Not many people like the accent.
does it work whit windows 11
Yeah its gotten a massive deadzone and as a student pilot the pitch is very good but the roll so super loose, other than that I would love to have had a fuel pump or parking brake switch
Someone else mentioned Parking brake too. I reckon a parking brake would be a great addition.
Parking brake was so necessary along with spring loaded starter. They fixed that but dedicated parking still a no
would this be a nice first yoke for flightgear?
This is more of an intermediate yoke in terms of quality. If you have the cash though it’s a superb first yoke.
@@g-locmedia would the Saitek package be a better option at first?
@@maximusheronimus23980 it’s not bad by my recommendation would be the Turtle Beach as it comes with everything for GA and commercial flying. I did a review on it. Check back on the channel.
Not Xbox Compatible, is what I was hoping I wouldn’t hear. Anyone know the best entry-level pc for running Microsoft Flight Sim 24?
Work back from your monitor resolution and then build from there. I reckon that's the best way to do it.
There is an Xbox version 😂
This yoke is for XBOX: th-cam.com/video/gSqcveGpY_o/w-d-xo.html
@g-locmedia Yo bro so basically Im looking to buy flight sim hardware and im looking for a quadrantl , rudders and a yoke which replicated that of a boeing 737 any reccomendations anyone?My budget will be a total cost of under £1000 for the hardware.Thanks in advance
You should look at the Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke pack. I've never reviewed it before but its a fairly decent yoke. As far as rudders go the TM rudders are really expensive. I'd maybe try Virpil.
@@g-locmedia cool tysm bro
Would u say that the boeing TCA is better than the honeycomb alpha bundle ?
@@mythravi2424 No, not as far as build quality and yoke feel are concerned but its better suited to what your looking to fly and also I'm not sure about the status of Honeycomb at the moment. However the honeycomb gear is quite nice. I still run the throttle on the big sim.
@@g-locmedia appreciate bro
You probably won't see this, but if you do: Does this work on mobile flight simulators?
I would highly advise that you do not buy a CH yoke. Quality is decent as I've had mine for over 20yrs. The main issue is you don't have full 180' deflection from neutral position.
I fly real airplanes and like using a sim instead of chair flying when I haven't flown in a while. Using the CH was like learning to fly all over again because the aileron movement is not true. It's actually oversensitive due to not having 180' deflection.
So glad to have seen this review, just bought one on e-bay an opened never used and paid £170 so I feel like I got a rare ebay bargain
Nice one. There's less and less of these around now
Was definitely used if it was open lol eBay sellers lie! You don’t buy something and open and not use it 😂 and then decide to sell it for half
that wire breaks constantly
glue it in
which one?
£149.00 right now.
Black Friday sale?
@@g-locmedia Yes. Last day today to get it for that price though. Still pondering it or Logitech X52.
@@theandroids I think I’d go x52. More adaptable if you want to fly fighters as well as GA.
@@g-locmedia Ended up ordering the yoke and the X56 Rhino. Will keep the one I enjoy the best and send the other back.
@@theandroids nice one. What sim are you running?