Clever quip! Btw "nomen" was the surname/2nd name in Ancient Rome, they may have had Nomen Studies at school And on a tangent, another video here talks about "marmite calculator" as not to read aloud "midget". In hindsight, "Gnome" would have tied that nicely!
that's some sharp comedic timing with these edits, setups and callbacks and all that. great work that isn't usually a strong suit in niche youtube bubbles like this
I really enjoyed the original video and this one. Your realization about complicated-but-understandable tech being more impressive than modern tech is spot on. It makes sense why clocks and mechanisms are so timeless ;)
This video has inspired me to create a sundial that requires a PhD to use, perhaps something that requires a good combination of some crazy geometry and nonlinear optics-after making _billions_ off of the device, I'll lobby the government to teach every kid how to use it, and then no one can complain about the amount of math needed to use a sundial from the 1920s ever again.
To resolve issues regarding weather and night-time time calculations I propose we setup an array of sundials equidistant to each other streamed to the Internet continuously. If your local sundial is non-operational you can load up a stream of another sundial and adjust for the distance between your current location and the sundial. 24 hour a day perfect time keeping. There can't possibly be a better way.
I loved this video so I checked out the actual video about the pocket sundial and then that led me to your Napier's Bones which led to the Sharp EL 429 video.. I had a lot of fun the last hour. I'm subscribed. Thank you for the entertaining informative videos.
As example where I live in California on latitude line 36° set gnomon to your local latitude. Gnomon must point true north adjusted to your local deviation from magnetic north. Sundial face must be 0° level and for daylight savings time add one hour to visible shadow. These pocket sundials were marketed to Boy Scouts of America primarily. If you have a sundial that has a fixed gnomon different angle you can place a wedge of wood under dial face and adjust until gnomon reads your local latitude. In southern hemisphere ( example Australia) gnomon points opposite.
I could see this being useful back in the day to set your clock/watch if you were somewhere remote. Clocks aren’t 100% accurate and you might forget to wind it now and then.
I was going to suggest that the CGI sundial rendering used to rebuff this “heliocentric” and “spherical” doubt use a hand outline with a specific finger raised, but then I realized that Hello, Kitty is probably the equivalent for the target audience. Good render!
One thing people don't seem to understand is that once you've used the tables and done most of the maths once, you don't need to do it again unless/until you travel somewhere a significant distance away or the clocks change for summer/winter (and back in the day people didn't travel as much)
It would be cool to create a updated table with the manic adjustment corrected to match todays value. If you did I could totally design a 3d printable version that you would just need to glue a cheap compass on.
Yes I actually had this idea too- might be a bit touchy to get the gnomon to stay where you want it. But I'm not a great 3D designer- I'm sure somebody with real skills could do it.
@@ChrisStaecker I don't see that being hard. I imagine the design just using a piece of filament for the pivot and you could just have it be a tight fit and have detents where it locks in.
Spent most of that worried that I said something dumb on the original that would get called out. Anyway, excellent Seth Meyers "Corrections" vibes on this. V. good.
Congrats on the views! Your work deserves it. I've been subscribed for a year or three now, and love your explanations of complicated things made up of unthinking parts. I wasn't sure if you could make the comments section as engaging as a "normal" video, until I realized that you're not expounding on the art today, you're practicing it.
Have you ever played Nand Game? It does a good job at breaking down a simple CPU into “gears and levers” that can be understood, and see how that builds up into a working (albiet very simple) computer. Ben Eater's 8-bit cpu videos are also good for breaking down a computer down to a level that can be actually understood as something beyond just “it's magic”
Nice- I hadn't see that. I've thought for a while about doing a series of reviews of CPU-type games. Human Resource Machine, TIS-100, Nand Game seems to fit in. My Paper Computers videos let me talk about the same basic stuff. (Gunna make some more of those someday, but people seem a lot less interested in watching them!)
Chris, or anyone out there reading this I have a free idea for you. Create an app to turn your phone into a sundial so you can tell the time! The phone knows your location and which direction it is facing so it can tell you how to set up the gnomon correctly. Maybe you could send a free gnomon in the mail with app purchase😂
Unexpected ending on that intro music there. I was expecting it to go: "I was thinking about what a friend had said, I was hoping it was a lie........ Stat Quest...."
@@ChrisStaecker I think the light just caught your nails in a way that made it stand out. Also how often do people see their own nails up close like that?
I bought a sun watch 10 mins after watching another video on one sometime back. They're just fuckin' neat. I love analogue instruments. I get the magnetic declination adjustment but where does the seasonal adjustment to the time come from? How were those numbers derived?
@@ChrisStaecker Thats fascinating! Its like accounting for magnetic declination but for time. Had no idea about mean sun and apparent sun time. Learn something new every day.
😳 How do these people tolerate Living People? Life is messy, so wash your mouth. Smart is the wrong word for the ‘intelligence’ of the past … they must mean Street Smarts, Common Sense or Practical Sense. Like how to do things without a machine.
4:25 I'm curious what geometry? 🕵️ The "Alexandria well experiment" done by the ancient Greek scientist Eratosthenes? Sorry to break it to you, but that also proves nothing 😂🎉
In case you’re serious, I mean something like: given a latitude of x, at calendar date y, and solar time z, predict mathematically exactly what the length and angle of the shadow should be. Then compare with real life.
@@ChrisStaecker it will be exactly the same with a local Sun that is revolving around Earth in a circle ⭕ 🤷. Shadows and their angles, my friend - don't prove anything 🌝 My bet is that the Sun's 🌞 altitude is about 5,000 miles from the surface of the Earth - which is still pretty high up... With a closer Sun 🌞 the "Northern and Southern Hemisphere" shadows remain the same as if the Earth was rotating. I just like to question everything, because according to the history - not too long ago we were all slaves and serfs "bound to the land and were prohibited to learn and question things," which seems that we are still kind of are (borders, passport, residence permission, high land tax...)
people love to be confidently wrong in youtube comments huh also i know it's probably just a joke and also there's no "wrong" way to say things really, but the way you pronounced "ngl" was a bit painful lol
If you genuinely watch a video about something like this....and your first thought is "pOcKeT wAtChEs AlReAdY eXiSt," then you might have brain damage.
on the "appreciating tech thru understanding", that's the whole reason I got a in a whole rabbit hole on how computers work, there's amazing stuff on youtube like on the Crash Course channel. and I really mean -how they work-, from how a logic gate behaves physically all the way to the first processors. truly changes your perspective on e.g. smart phones
I'm in a pretty exclusive club if that sundial watch video got 5 million views and I'm one of just 35k subscribers. I'd do the math to figure out how exclusive that club is, but I don't have a master's degree...
🫨NOOOO nope no no no ‼️ 🙂↔️ Common core is the purest form of trash Math. Making additional steps to memorize and do is just extra chances for error. The steps then become the part you get graded on instead of the operation of the numbers is fully insane. Statistically on a whole even after making the tests easier k-12 math scores have gone down down down since it was implemented. It is designed to make you hate math. I started following you because I like math, a Numberphile video had your video recommended below it. If you enjoy math you by definition have to Hate common core, unless your a disinterested liar… common core is genuinely a defenseless way to manipulate numbers.
Are you an elementary educator? I’m not, so I have an outsider’s opinion. But what I’ve seen from my kids going through it seems good as far as I can tell. The people who designed it know a lot more than I do about pedagogy- I guess time will tell if it works or not. (I wouldn’t put too much stock in recent testing- COVID has had a huge negative impact in math especially.)
@@ChrisStaecker Yes, not by profession, homeschooled 3 kids, and re-taught 4 cousins, and tutored 6 nieces and nephews after common core scrambled their ability to even think about what numbers represent. It is bad zero exaggeration, normal kids not being able to count to 100 at age 8 😅. 2weeks of basic number manipulation can cure it. The REAL problem is when they go back to common core later and get their answers correct but get marked wrong because they didn’t need to do the creative art process of ‘showing your work’ in common core steps On problems like 3x15. The real victory is that outside of school they all enjoy math 💯 more. 👍
@@ChrisStaecker oh and the COVID excuse is bunk 2010 it was implemented in most states nation wide, they now try to claim COVID because the testing even on a state wide basis is extremely abysmal.
Original Sunwatch video: th-cam.com/video/ZDS21lLXUdk/w-d-xo.html
TH-cam shorts version: th-cam.com/users/shortsA8IsPWDyQk4
-The second link goes to this video-
Thanks- fixed it now
Sundials are cool ancient tech! 👍
I don't think anyone else has pointed this out, but have you noticed that there are situations where a sundial isn't entirely practical?
You deserve several more likes than this has received.
Oh hoho
We live in a world with Women's Studies but not Nomens Studies. Really says it all
the real tragedy is the lack of gnome studies
Clever quip!
Btw "nomen" was the surname/2nd name in Ancient Rome, they may have had Nomen Studies at school
And on a tangent, another video here talks about "marmite calculator" as not to read aloud "midget". In hindsight, "Gnome" would have tied that nicely!
that's some sharp comedic timing with these edits, setups and callbacks and all that. great work that isn't usually a strong suit in niche youtube bubbles like this
Repulsive.
Huh?
The commenter. Makes my stomach turn. Men then vs men now.
@@Kamal_AL-Hinai I'm glad, buddy. Hope you feel very sick and angry the whole rest of your day. Have a good one
@@Kamal_AL-Hinai I'm glad to hear, buddy. Hope you stay sick and angry the whole rest of your day. Have a good one
I really enjoyed the original video and this one. Your realization about complicated-but-understandable tech being more impressive than modern tech is spot on. It makes sense why clocks and mechanisms are so timeless ;)
Right on- thanks! Want to make a video together sometime? Hah jk i know I'm beneath you. (but srsly hmu)
@@ChrisStaecker Would you want to make a video together sometime? Hah jk i know I'm beneath you. (but srsly, hmu)
"You gotta remember to wind up the sun"
ok that was good
I always come for the technology and always appreciate the humor. This was awesome.
This video has inspired me to create a sundial that requires a PhD to use, perhaps something that requires a good combination of some crazy geometry and nonlinear optics-after making _billions_ off of the device, I'll lobby the government to teach every kid how to use it, and then no one can complain about the amount of math needed to use a sundial from the 1920s ever again.
I'll buy one but only if it comes with an attached slide rule
Babe not now, Chris Staecker's uploaded another video
This
To resolve issues regarding weather and night-time time calculations I propose we setup an array of sundials equidistant to each other streamed to the Internet continuously. If your local sundial is non-operational you can load up a stream of another sundial and adjust for the distance between your current location and the sundial.
24 hour a day perfect time keeping. There can't possibly be a better way.
I loved this video so I checked out the actual video about the pocket sundial and then that led me to your Napier's Bones which led to the Sharp EL 429 video.. I had a lot of fun the last hour. I'm subscribed. Thank you for the entertaining informative videos.
Gnomon is an island.
Tide and time wait for gnomon
As example where I live in California on latitude line 36° set gnomon to your local latitude. Gnomon must point true north adjusted to your local deviation from magnetic north. Sundial face must be 0° level and for daylight savings time add one hour to visible shadow. These pocket sundials were marketed to Boy Scouts of America primarily. If you have a sundial that has a fixed gnomon different angle you can place a wedge of wood under dial face and adjust until gnomon reads your local latitude. In southern hemisphere ( example Australia) gnomon points opposite.
I love your videos and humor. I feel a little bad for the folks that don't get it.
Sundials work fine at night. You just gotta light a candle or something.
I could see this being useful back in the day to set your clock/watch if you were somewhere remote. Clocks aren’t 100% accurate and you might forget to wind it now and then.
"Ngl I agree" I could not get past this line for a good five minutes, I had to re-watch it.
I was going to suggest that the CGI sundial rendering used to rebuff this “heliocentric” and “spherical” doubt use a hand outline with a specific finger raised, but then I realized that Hello, Kitty is probably the equivalent for the target audience. Good render!
One thing people don't seem to understand is that once you've used the tables and done most of the maths once, you don't need to do it again unless/until you travel somewhere a significant distance away or the clocks change for summer/winter (and back in the day people didn't travel as much)
It would be cool to create a updated table with the manic adjustment corrected to match todays value. If you did I could totally design a 3d printable version that you would just need to glue a cheap compass on.
Yes I actually had this idea too- might be a bit touchy to get the gnomon to stay where you want it. But I'm not a great 3D designer- I'm sure somebody with real skills could do it.
@@ChrisStaecker I don't see that being hard. I imagine the design just using a piece of filament for the pivot and you could just have it be a tight fit and have detents where it locks in.
@@ChrisStaecker Also I just discovered something you should check out. It is called the Kala pocket sundial. It would make a great video.
@@madeintexas3d442 Yes I've seen that one- very interesting. I don't have one but it seems much more capable than typical compass-and-dial setups.
They forgot to say this won't work upside down
Which is why Australia only really started to progress after mechanical timekeeping was perfected.
Rotated on which axis?
Spent most of that worried that I said something dumb on the original that would get called out. Anyway, excellent Seth Meyers "Corrections" vibes on this. V. good.
This video improved my self-esteem. Thank you, please make more.
ohh ho ho!
Just do you do not be discouraged you are doin fine 💪. Good video my guy.
On god i hate the idea of a sun dial id just work til i can't see
For every kid that cant read an analogue clock there is an adult who gets confused by a 24 hour one.
Congrats on the views! Your work deserves it. I've been subscribed for a year or three now, and love your explanations of complicated things made up of unthinking parts.
I wasn't sure if you could make the comments section as engaging as a "normal" video, until I realized that you're not expounding on the art today, you're practicing it.
"add four, then subtract two" ROFLOLMFAO
Have you ever played Nand Game? It does a good job at breaking down a simple CPU into “gears and levers” that can be understood, and see how that builds up into a working (albiet very simple) computer.
Ben Eater's 8-bit cpu videos are also good for breaking down a computer down to a level that can be actually understood as something beyond just “it's magic”
Nice- I hadn't see that. I've thought for a while about doing a series of reviews of CPU-type games. Human Resource Machine, TIS-100, Nand Game seems to fit in. My Paper Computers videos let me talk about the same basic stuff. (Gunna make some more of those someday, but people seem a lot less interested in watching them!)
it's like itunes, you gotta be a friggin nasa astronaut to use it
I think this is your first “reaction video?” I’m definitely here for it!
My policy is to do one whenever I get 1M views on a video. This is the second- first was "Napier's Bones Retorts".
Tortception! We’ll probably never see it, but it could happen
I was wondering where was the video that blew it up, it is a short! I tend to never watch shorts, so I missed it.
I never really made them before, but I decided on a whim to make this one. I guess it was a good idea!
XDDDDD such fun !!!!
Also I like all the Hello Kitties, Baby Yodas and doggies you use for some demonstrations.
Did you know the pointy thing is called Geoff
Chris, or anyone out there reading this I have a free idea for you. Create an app to turn your phone into a sundial so you can tell the time! The phone knows your location and which direction it is facing so it can tell you how to set up the gnomon correctly. Maybe you could send a free gnomon in the mail with app purchase😂
The gnomen could be integrated into a case similar to a stylus on the old PDAs.
Unexpected ending on that intro music there. I was expecting it to go:
"I was thinking about what a friend had said, I was hoping it was a lie........ Stat Quest...."
I did notice the fingernails, but I didn't say anything.
Like a true gentleman! (I always thought everybody's fingernails had ridges, but I guess not.)
@@ChrisStaecker I think the light just caught your nails in a way that made it stand out. Also how often do people see their own nails up close like that?
We need more of these. Maybe one featuring the Gerber Scale “gold” dollar
I have one!
To quote the bard, let's get retorted in here
And much retorts were had. Can't wait until you get your much deserved virality and blow up!🎉🎉
"Im from boston"
*unholy honking sounds
@@theshuman100 these are specific Boston sounds iykyk
I bought a sun watch 10 mins after watching another video on one sometime back. They're just fuckin' neat. I love analogue instruments.
I get the magnetic declination adjustment but where does the seasonal adjustment to the time come from? How were those numbers derived?
@@GryphonIndustrial see Wikipedia: “equation of time”
@@ChrisStaecker Thats fascinating! Its like accounting for magnetic declination but for time. Had no idea about mean sun and apparent sun time. Learn something new every day.
Great videos, love them. Fun and informative. Keep up the amazing work, and have fun with the meat heads.
Refreshing to watch...err sundial?
I'm gonna start making ignorant comments so I can get in the next retort video!
😳 How do these people tolerate Living People? Life is messy, so wash your mouth.
Smart is the wrong word for the ‘intelligence’ of the past … they must mean Street Smarts, Common Sense or Practical Sense. Like how to do things without a machine.
Haha heyyy had to think about this one for a bit
Lost me with the ad 4 subtract 2. Must be that common core bs. that's the devil's work!
This is the numberphiles school of thumbnails?
4:25 I'm curious what geometry? 🕵️ The "Alexandria well experiment" done by the ancient Greek scientist Eratosthenes? Sorry to break it to you, but that also proves nothing 😂🎉
In case you’re serious, I mean something like: given a latitude of x, at calendar date y, and solar time z, predict mathematically exactly what the length and angle of the shadow should be. Then compare with real life.
@@ChrisStaecker it will be exactly the same with a local Sun that is revolving around Earth in a circle ⭕ 🤷. Shadows and their angles, my friend - don't prove anything 🌝 My bet is that the Sun's 🌞 altitude is about 5,000 miles from the surface of the Earth - which is still pretty high up... With a closer Sun 🌞 the "Northern and Southern Hemisphere" shadows remain the same as if the Earth was rotating. I just like to question everything, because according to the history - not too long ago we were all slaves and serfs "bound to the land and were prohibited to learn and question things," which seems that we are still kind of are (borders, passport, residence permission, high land tax...)
The earth is the shape of a hot dog.
people love to be confidently wrong in youtube comments huh
also i know it's probably just a joke and also there's no "wrong" way to say things really, but the way you pronounced "ngl" was a bit painful lol
Haha, keep it up!
Who's being mean to sundials and on the clonk?!? AND TO OUR BEST MATH BOI?!?!?
Gnomon retorts.
At 7:50 he says he got the original instructions but something is wrong with my speakers I think.
Well... allow me to retort!
What is a ngl. Can I eat it?
you're thinking of rofl
0:45 I was drinking water I almost drown in it by laughing.
If you genuinely watch a video about something like this....and your first thought is "pOcKeT wAtChEs AlReAdY eXiSt," then you might have brain damage.
on the "appreciating tech thru understanding", that's the whole reason I got a in a whole rabbit hole on how computers work, there's amazing stuff on youtube like on the Crash Course channel. and I really mean -how they work-, from how a logic gate behaves physically all the way to the first processors. truly changes your perspective on e.g. smart phones
dude, some comments looks like made by AI... or maybe AI looks like humans comments
my coment looks like AI?
so many retorts for a 2 week old video
Helicenric universe is misnomer and has no axiom.
*misgnomon
@@fermiLiquidDrinker this guy gets it
Popular lies become truth like moonwalk stories.
oh shoot we got another one
Woman’s studies as a pejorative. True that, despite snark to the contrary.
People believe in mere perception, nothing beyond that.
7:10 Oh no not the Compass Brose!
7:45
The *what* instructions?
It was like you were mumbling or something.
I'm in a pretty exclusive club if that sundial watch video got 5 million views and I'm one of just 35k subscribers.
I'd do the math to figure out how exclusive that club is, but I don't have a master's degree...
OH HOHO HEHE
11:20 that's 100% an AI comment
yeah that was my impression
Remind me to never publish any videos that might go viral.
These brackets are pointier than a .... gnomon:
🫨NOOOO nope no no no ‼️ 🙂↔️
Common core is the purest form of trash Math. Making additional steps to memorize and do is just extra chances for error. The steps then become the part you get graded on instead of the operation of the numbers is fully insane. Statistically on a whole even after making the tests easier k-12 math scores have gone down down down since it was implemented.
It is designed to make you hate math. I started following you because I like math, a Numberphile video had your video recommended below it. If you enjoy math you by definition have to Hate common core, unless your a disinterested liar… common core is genuinely a defenseless way to manipulate numbers.
Are you an elementary educator? I’m not, so I have an outsider’s opinion. But what I’ve seen from my kids going through it seems good as far as I can tell. The people who designed it know a lot more than I do about pedagogy- I guess time will tell if it works or not. (I wouldn’t put too much stock in recent testing- COVID has had a huge negative impact in math especially.)
@@ChrisStaecker Yes, not by profession, homeschooled 3 kids, and re-taught 4 cousins, and tutored 6 nieces and nephews after common core scrambled their ability to even think about what numbers represent.
It is bad zero exaggeration, normal kids not being able to count to 100 at age 8 😅.
2weeks of basic number manipulation can cure it. The REAL problem is when they go back to common core later and get their answers correct but get marked wrong because they didn’t need to do the creative art process of ‘showing your work’ in common core steps On problems like 3x15.
The real victory is that outside of school they all enjoy math 💯 more. 👍
@@ChrisStaecker oh and the COVID excuse is bunk 2010 it was implemented in most states nation wide, they now try to claim COVID because the testing even on a state wide basis is extremely abysmal.
@@creamwobbly Mathematics is non political, you know not of what you speak.
* you're
Found the guy that hated English class.
Gnomon sounds like a Jamaican rejection.