@@molochz yeah, I’m sure he’d sound pretty normal on a crap mic. Also he has a lot of useful info on his channel, but It’s hard for me to watch him. The bass in his voice feels like it’s vibrating my entire brain, and tbh I’m not too into that sort of thing.
How many possible drum and bass beats rhythms and hey what about using beat designer and groove agent five the one that comes with absolute 5 package or groove agent 5 se
@@VenusTheory thanks that would be good. Could do tutorial dnb drum beats that sound tight punchy in a mix with other instruments that sounding lush and wide. 👍🏼
1:54 I’ve always called them “Punctuated snares” or “Punctuation snares” because that’s kind of what they do to the 3rd quarter beat, and then again after the 4th quarter note, like a period ending the sentence (loop).
Yo! Well (not shown in this video) sometimes I bounce out stems. So, top loop, snare loop, kick loop, etc. and I can sidechain/mix and match that way. But generally what I'll do instead is leave the MIDI pattern, and copy that over to a new channel to act as a SC trigger just using a kick sound or something that's not sent to the output buss.
@@VenusTheory okay so muting the SC trigger channel will stop that sound being heard and still activate the sidechain, or do you simply turn the volume down on that channel?
This was a dope tutorial bro, appreciate u for these tips!! question though...in terms of making this into a full track...any tips in regards to how to match the key of your kick to the track ur about to make, this is where i fall down and it takes me ages just to make sure the kick drum is sitting in key with the rest of track, or is it just best to start of with the beat 1st..analyse the kick drum then take it from there whilst you build ,so it sits nicely together, because kicks not in key with the rest of the production doesn't sound great!! lol Hope i'm making sense, Thanks again😎👊🏾 UK Love.
I can add it to the suggestions list! Generally speaking though a lot of that kinda falls under the old school dub drum stuff so I'm sure there are a ton of tutorials on that stuff already.
Thanks dude Im glad you didnt just chop up samples, I was looking for this. But I didnt get the whole signal chain concept with the sidechain. Would it be bad to record the drums as mono track ? I mean we didnt pan anything anyways, did we ?
Glad you enjoyed the video! As for mono/stereo, the samples have some stereo information so I usually leave things as stereo. Case by case though, depends on what you're doing/using!
@@VenusTheory Thank you dude, so I have gone a similiar path as far as I could with the elements version, what I am facing right now it: When you got the sliced up samples in groove agent se, you cannot play the samples on your keyboard and pitch them with the pitch wheel, can you ? (like for some jungle stuff you might wanna do that) But if you use the sampler track you can, you can even slice the loop up in there if you own the newest sampler track version.
Yo! Thanks dude! As for patterns, a lot of DnB patterns stem from drum breaks in funk records. So, I'd check out some DnB breaks loops on youtube (or get the giant free pack from MusicRadar and/or some of the Dogs on Acid packs) and study those. You can also just slow down some DnB grooves to get an idea of the placement of different elements. But, as always, experiment! What makes a lot of DnB drums cool is how you mess around with the groove in interesting ways.
Hey dude! The meters in the mixer should be peak values I'm pretty sure. I haven't changed any of the settings for that, so I'm pretty certain the default is peak and not RMS.
Well, this is more of a process and dissection of an application rather than a means to a specific end. So, you can certainly use these tips as you see fit to achieve whatever it is you're looking to do!
Haha no worries! With the ghost notes, you can experiment quite a bit with the placement - watching videos of drummers (if you don't play yourself) is a good way to understand where/why the ghost notes fall in the groove.
Yo! Well generally what I'll do is bounce these out as stems (top loop, kick loop, etc) to balance them further, but sometimes I'll just leave it as-is for a more 'rough and raw' feel - just depends on the track. That said I generally don't bounce to audio until much later in the stage of the song (well after the instruments and stuff are done) so I can get a more appropriate level balance before bouncing to audio and reslicing it in another instance of GA.
Mostly just because I've been using it for so long, and prefer the workflow it offers compared to the other DAWs I've used over the years. Plus, it just works better for a lot of the applications that I need outside pure music making like sound design and voiceover stuff and offers a lot of cool tools like direct offline processing and variaudio. That said, I'm heavily looking into Bitwig at the moment as it offers a lot of what I like about Ableton but functions more like Cubase.
![Minimal D&B: Basics to Tight D&B Drums [Part 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GdA63c8lvNw/mqdefault.jpg)
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Man, this is just the tutorial I needed sooooo bad!
Glad it was helpful!
Next tutorial: how to have a cool deep voice
Speak from your chest and not your nose...and win the genetic lottery......?
@@VenusTheory You have the same voice as the dude from Postal 2
@@Nukiev I regret nothing!
@@molochz yeah, I’m sure he’d sound pretty normal on a crap mic. Also he has a lot of useful info on his channel, but It’s hard for me to watch him.
The bass in his voice feels like it’s vibrating my entire brain, and tbh I’m not too into that sort of thing.
Oh great, now I'm going to be completely addicted to making drum breaks.
It's quite a bit of fun!
Producing DnB drums like it's metal! I like it!
I can see why you're the only producer I've seen so far using Cubase
This channel my god.. Too good to be on this platform
Haha thanks dude. Glad you liked the video!
Love you Venus, you good splinter
Haha thanks dude
At first I was like " his voice doesn't sound like a British Dnb producer" but u actually made a sick drum beat , something that I still can't do 😂😂
I guess you can always imagine this reply in a cockney accent. It's a right proper chune, mate. Glad the video was helpful!
Venus Theory 😂
Loved it, learnt a lot more than I was expecting!
im 10 seconds in and i gota say i love your voice lmao so good man hahahaha like listening to a nature video
Haha thanks
This video is gold.
Glad you liked it!
YESSSS! THANK YOU
Such a helpful video, cheers Cameron.
Glad to hear it!
12:52 - Bob Ross detected!!!! 😍
Now we've got our snare and we're just gonna beat the devil out of it
Yeah, that's a good intro
How many possible drum and bass beats rhythms and hey what about using beat designer and groove agent five the one that comes with absolute 5 package or groove agent 5 se
Thanks! Your tutorials are very helpful😉
Thanks dude! Glad to hear you like them!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. This is really going help me getting my beats sounding energetic not static
Glad you enjoyed it and it was helpful! I might do some more DnB stuff in the future!
@@VenusTheory thanks that would be good. Could do tutorial dnb drum beats that sound tight punchy in a mix with other instruments that sounding lush and wide. 👍🏼
Venus Theory brilliant I even had to watch this video again jam packed with info👍🏾
great vid man
Glad you enjoyed it!
1:54 I’ve always called them “Punctuated snares” or “Punctuation snares” because that’s kind of what they do to the 3rd quarter beat, and then again after the 4th quarter note, like a period ending the sentence (loop).
🤔 hmmmm.....
🧐 Indeed.
They’re “Ghost notes” because as a drummer when you play them you’re supposed to play them so they’re barely audible.
CAMERON, YOU ABSOLUTE LEG END.
Haha glad you liked the video!
@@VenusTheory as always dude!
He's a foot?
This is the first time I've seen your videos but I refuse to believe you sound like this in real life
It's my curse to forever be a walking car commercial
@@VenusTheory 😂
Oh yes dude. How do you sidechain off the kick and snare from this groove?
Sidechain them to bassinets I meant to say. Thankw
Yo! Well (not shown in this video) sometimes I bounce out stems. So, top loop, snare loop, kick loop, etc. and I can sidechain/mix and match that way. But generally what I'll do instead is leave the MIDI pattern, and copy that over to a new channel to act as a SC trigger just using a kick sound or something that's not sent to the output buss.
@@VenusTheory okay so muting the SC trigger channel will stop that sound being heard and still activate the sidechain, or do you simply turn the volume down on that channel?
Yeah so I just set the output to be none, but use the 'send' to send that signal to trigger the sidechain.
@@VenusTheory I'll give that a go. As always, I appreciate the advice.
Heya!!! Thanks brother!!
Glad it was helpful!
This was a dope tutorial bro, appreciate u for these tips!!
question though...in terms of making this into a full track...any tips in regards
to how to match the key of your kick to the track ur about to make, this is where i fall down and it takes me
ages just to make sure the kick drum is sitting in key with the rest of track, or is it just best to start of with the beat 1st..analyse the kick drum
then take it from there whilst you build ,so it sits nicely together, because kicks not in key with the rest of the production doesn't sound great!!
lol
Hope i'm making sense,
Thanks again😎👊🏾
UK Love.
Nice vid dude :)
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
cool, thank youuuu
Glad you liked the video!
Any chance of a tutorial on early 2000s darkstep kinda drum programing?
I can add it to the suggestions list! Generally speaking though a lot of that kinda falls under the old school dub drum stuff so I'm sure there are a ton of tutorials on that stuff already.
Yeah i been searching a lot recently there really aren't many just loads of jungle/amen stuff whenever you search for it
Thanks dude Im glad you didnt just chop up samples, I was looking for this. But I didnt get the whole signal chain concept with the sidechain.
Would it be bad to record the drums as mono track ? I mean we didnt pan anything anyways, did we ?
Glad you enjoyed the video! As for mono/stereo, the samples have some stereo information so I usually leave things as stereo. Case by case though, depends on what you're doing/using!
@@VenusTheory Thank you dude, so I have gone a similiar path as far as I could with the elements version, what I am facing right now it: When you got the sliced up samples in groove agent se, you cannot play the samples on your keyboard and pitch them with the pitch wheel, can you ? (like for some jungle stuff you might wanna do that) But if you use the sampler track you can, you can even slice the loop up in there if you own the newest sampler track version.
nice !!! :)
Fantastic tutorial as always.
Any recommendations for learning more dnb patterns?
Yo! Thanks dude! As for patterns, a lot of DnB patterns stem from drum breaks in funk records. So, I'd check out some DnB breaks loops on youtube (or get the giant free pack from MusicRadar and/or some of the Dogs on Acid packs) and study those. You can also just slow down some DnB grooves to get an idea of the placement of different elements. But, as always, experiment! What makes a lot of DnB drums cool is how you mess around with the groove in interesting ways.
Hey Cam,
Are those level meters showing peak or RMS?
Hey dude! The meters in the mixer should be peak values I'm pretty sure. I haven't changed any of the settings for that, so I'm pretty certain the default is peak and not RMS.
What if you wanna side chain your kick with the bassline? Can you do that after recording the track with groove agent?
Yo! In the case of that, I'd set up a separate sidechain trigger with white noise and match the midi to the kick.
bro have you ever thought in start a track from scratch series ???
I may at some point - unfortunately I work quite slowly and sporadically so it's not always feasible.
Would this work for Untouchables style d&b?
Well, this is more of a process and dissection of an application rather than a means to a specific end. So, you can certainly use these tips as you see fit to achieve whatever it is you're looking to do!
is'nt life fast enough?.
ghost snare before every snare not kick, right?
edit: nvm i got confused by the first one ;)
Haha no worries! With the ghost notes, you can experiment quite a bit with the placement - watching videos of drummers (if you don't play yourself) is a good way to understand where/why the ghost notes fall in the groove.
You have the postal dude voice!!
Haha yeah I've heard that a few times! Definitely very close!
Shouldn't every elements be on his own channel while mixing ? how do you mix a whole loop like that correctly ?
Yo! Well generally what I'll do is bounce these out as stems (top loop, kick loop, etc) to balance them further, but sometimes I'll just leave it as-is for a more 'rough and raw' feel - just depends on the track. That said I generally don't bounce to audio until much later in the stage of the song (well after the instruments and stuff are done) so I can get a more appropriate level balance before bouncing to audio and reslicing it in another instance of GA.
You meant set random values between. Not relative values.
Yep that was it haha. Should probably drink more coffee before filming these!
that's another fine mess you got me into
doh!.
Bet you would be totally lost if you did it on a tracker or tracker like software
Once my polyend tracker arrives I guess we'll wait and see. Been many moons since I've played with a proper tracker
@@VenusTheory polyend tracker is nice to bad its not as featurful as renoise
Wow, a VT video in Cubase, that gives me a cognitive dissonance
why cubase? I know Noisia are big fans but no-one will ever be noisia
because Cubase rules them all you fool
@@pyroghost11 how so?
Mostly just because I've been using it for so long, and prefer the workflow it offers compared to the other DAWs I've used over the years. Plus, it just works better for a lot of the applications that I need outside pure music making like sound design and voiceover stuff and offers a lot of cool tools like direct offline processing and variaudio. That said, I'm heavily looking into Bitwig at the moment as it offers a lot of what I like about Ableton but functions more like Cubase.
Venus Theory Did you pull the trigger on bitwig?