The cultural pressure within the Mormon community to be successful and perfect is overwhelming and the suicide rate is high. Your analysis is compassionate and spot on. Looking great, Dr. Grande!
@@albertafarmer8638 No offense but you obviously don’t know what Mormon’s believe. They do believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, which is why his name is in their title. I have family members who are Mormon and they are just as normal as my other Christian family members. It’s probably better to try and understand other people’s beliefs to better empathize where they are coming from.
@@AlbinoWhiteGuy Hi, the Mormons believe that our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST is a created being and you can not deny this fact! Mormons believe in a DIFFERENT "jesus" who can not save them. This false teacher Joseph Smith added to the Bible, he was an occultist. Christians must warn the lost according to the Bible and point out false teachings and if you believe in a different "jesus" you are lost as well. The Bible tells us that JESUS is GOD, co-eternal and co-equal with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT.
@@albertafarmer8638 Who cares what they believe in... Who cares what you believe in? What makes you think your religion is in any way superior to any other religion? Each to their own. Live and let live.
*Some females have this problem as well. Although maybe not to the same extent that most guys have it. Its like we're expected to be self sufficient, and overcome **_our own_** problems despite any physical or emotional or monetary setbacks. Millenials, most of us, have been conditioned to be independent without accepting or even asking for help. We're taught to value independence over pride. Which is a dam☆ shame, because everyone needs a little (or a lot) of help from time to time; its nothing to be ashamed of asking for or needing! That notion needs to be in the garbage!*
@@Griselda_Puppy My mum didn't want to be a burden on anyone during her seventeen year long on-and-off fight with cancer. But she did accept help by professionals. She told me that my granny had been a hypochondriac who often lay in bed, loading off all the chores on her, so she knew exactly what it could feel like to others and became quite the opposite of her mom in this regard. So there may be very different reasons our personality gets shaped in similar directions I guess.
@@AudioGardenSlave123 Damn, you managed to spell it wrong despite the word being in front of you! Well, given everything in the universe is already predetermined, yes, to the former. The latter is for you to ruminate on...
I am 53 and over the years I have lived in my car slept in the woods and been beat up just for being homeless but I knew I had too press on.never give up.
I live in Henderson and this story has always intrigued me. From where he left his car and from where his cell phone pinged last are not remote areas. There are plenty of residential and businesses in between. There should have been additional surveillance somewhere 🤷♂️
Maybe not when it took police so long to get involved….a lot of that footage was probably just gone by the time they got around to even asking for it…if they even bothered.
I live in Vegas. I think that "job interview" turned south fast--you KNOW those ads on FB and at the time CL, that often turn out to be robberies or hoaxes. My gut says foul play at the hands at that fake interview.
No foul play...he parked his car, walked to a bus that went out of town..dropping his cell and keys on the way..ended up at that water dam with bridge.that many have jumped from
my fiance killed himself just shy of his 30th b-day. he hated the thought of turning 30. he also was very future oriented when talking to other people. we had just signed a lease agreement to move to a different apartment. We had solid plans in place. And we did a lot of fun things in the weeks before his death. He had a good job, but hated it. He fooled all of us, though. Not all suicidal people act suicidal.
Your analysis was very insightful Dr. Grande, particularly when you said that “stress has to go somewhere.” I think it speaks to the importance of facing mental health issues head on because they don’t simply disappear. Although it’s hard work, if not dealt with in a timely manner, they may reappear at another time in uglier ways. I think Steven must have been depressed, anxious and highly disappointed with himself. Poor thing. 💔 Excellent review, thank you!❤️ On another note- your shirt is lovely:)
I firmly believe he met some shady dealings on the receiving end of a very bad piece of business. This is evident everywhere you look regarding the facts. Maybe Ken Mains can do a video on this one too.
This is such a sad case. It seems like he was such a nice guy, trying to do everything right. And he kept hitting dead ends. Eventually you do start to wonder, if all your efforts and work are just not ever going to pay off. Then it's like, why bother? Why keep putting yourself through it for nothing?
He seemed very kind and deeply tethered to a moral perspective that structured how things could be meaningful. Unfortunately, as admirable as such a reality can appear, it may be what drove him to oblivion. Rest In Peace Steven.
@Digby Dooright Yeah, I think he (either) committed suicide (say 80% probability) or was murdered (20%). But, then, why'd they hide his body? That part doesn't sit well with me. So, I think he committed suicide, and his body hasn't been found yet.
@@PoeLemic if he committed suicide wouldn't it be easier to find his body --- if he was murdered he could have been buried anywhere -- if he committed suicide he would not be able to hide his own body
I think he was suicidal. The money/job problems, the driving, seeking out an old gf...sometimes family and acquaintances are the last to know because the subject "hid his feelings " well.
Nah, I think he was making deliveries for his landlord as a way to pay the rent and the landlord is known to have been involved with criminal things but could have had Steven delivering things without Steven even knowing what he was delivering.
Yes he parked his car, dropped.his cell and phone on way to bus out of town.. Most likely ended up at bridge at that water dam where many have jumped from..
This is such a sad story. It seems like Steven had such a hard time in his later years. It makes you wish that somehow you could have known him and helped him. It's too bad he felt unable to accept help from his family, although we don't know what his relationship was with him. He clearly either killed himself or was killed. R.I.P. Steven.
This case always bugs the crap out of me ! It’s really annoying how some people really believe that a guy who couldn’t figure out how to pay the rent would actually be able to disappear on purpose and start a secret, new life. The one thing you’d probably need for such a feat is money, and he had none. He also didn’t seem to be great at planning things.
I think he was murdered. Targeted for robbery under the false tenses of a job interview, fought back and was murdered. It was done by people inexperienced who toyed with his phone to see if his family were looking for him.
Dr. Grande, So many young men have been disappearing: - Macin Smith (St. George UT) - Daniel Robinson (Buckeye AZ) - Bryce Laspisa (California) - Jason Landry (Texas) Just to name a few. So mysterious and sad.
@@petezipardi4022 From a lady's point of view he is the definition of style and intelligence. He can be both... And is.. He also put a "❤️" on this original comment.... So I think it's safe to say he is a good level of fop & scholar.. and he knows it. 😉 I think saying he "eschews fop" is a little over-the-top! I do not know Dr. Grande however this is what I concluded after my analysis. These however are just my opinion and not meant to diagnose anybody. Just observing what might be happening in a situation like this. 🤫👍💋
I’ m not Mormon, but I’ve been acquainted with a few in the LDS church. Mormons are typically very focused, purpose-driven and family-oriented. They often get married and begin their families very young. Any young man unemployed and unattached at 30 is might feel an urge to pull things together; a young man in the LDS church in that position would likely feel like an unredeemable failure.
Also all that traveling and walking, sleeping in his car…was he getting much sleep? Even if he wasn’t depressed up to that point, lack of proper rest can do terrible things to your mental state.
Your interpretation (first and foremost the third theory you present) of this man's life situation and his actions makes an already presumably sad case ...incredibly sad. 😢
Dr. Grande, your extensive background in working with suicidal people is obvious in the tone of your voice. It sounds understanding and caring at the same time. It's so sad to hear of cases such as this one; too bad that therapists are not ethically allowed to share stories about people they have helped. A case with a happy ending would help lighten the depressing tone of this one.
When Dr. Grande wants to go for a nice long walk, he opens the door of his closet and starts walking. After two hours of fashion sightseeing he returns revived and decides that he needs.... more shirts. 😊
I don't understand the first theory. How does one "start over" when they don't really have anything to begin with? Seems like his depression was stemming from the fact that he was never really able to "get started" in the first place.
The shackles his religion put on him, the expectations it might have provoked in him about how he should be living by 30 years old, could have been liberating to leave behind? Yes, it would mean leaving his family, but if he felt he was letting them down or was a burden then he might have felt it was a kindness to go? (not knowing it's a living torture not knowing what happened to your loved one) I don't know if suicide is against their teachings, if it is then moving on to pastures new could have meant he had everything to begin again. Once gone it's difficult to admit what happened and get in contact again with your old life, all the fuss that's made about you going missing, how can you just pop up again and say you're alright? I hope he is still alive, maybe one day he'll have the strength to let his family know.
The streets and Homeless shelters house many people under such circumstances. That and a thousand other insecurities and burdens ! One offer of an idea.
Gosh this thread rings true to me. I got to 30 and had nothing, growing up in a close religious community it was like I was finished before I was begun. Thank God I was blessed, oddly I nearly died and that lead to me becoming pregnant with my son, my life went in a whole different direction but I remember that lonelines, not to mention poverty. This story really spoke to me. The whole thing lead me to empower my own children, my eldest is now off at uni with his girlfriend of 5yrs. I think Stephen put way way too high a standard upon himself and it was impossible to live up to. His family clearly loved him, I wonder if society and the religious community didn't back that up.
Hey hey, Billie! Im doing GREAT! Life is so good,, and the desert is so beautiful today! I hope you're having a great day today, too! And .. Good afternoon from Las Vegas!
I remember hearing about this on the Investigation Discovery channel years ago. I’ve always thought the whole thing was strange. From his disappearance to the unusual amount of traveling that he did prior. Hope his family finds closure.
This case makes me sad :( as someone in my 20s I always feel like I’m not meeting certain standards and deadlines fast enough as well, these expectations we may put on ourself can be damaging.
Except that wasn’t the last call on his phone. It was believed to be for a decade until about six months ago when the police released around 150 pages of the case file. That last call was to a redacted number but clearly not his own/VM as that number was not redacted at any other time in the call logs. The police know who he/his murderer called, but WE don’t.
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 You are the perfect example of why I love this channel so much! There are some really good people here that bring so many smiles and happy love feelings each day with their comments to each other. The blessing today, was *you!* You brought love to the table.. How very wonderful! 💚🥰
@@BucketHeadianHagg 😭😭😭😭😭That’s such an amazing thing to say, you’ve made my day, bless you. I was actually really down and struggling with my health and you’ve lifted my spirits right up, thank you with all my heart and God bless you and your loved ones xxx💞🥰💞xxx
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 yes honey, im struggling too. Its been a very scary and hectic time these last 4 weeks of horrible health news. Im having out-of-body experiences dealing with it. I'm going to say your name outloud to God & The Universe, that your health will either improve, or that you will find some peace and comfort with the people in your life who love and cherish you. I wont forget you, Penelope. Your name will be on my lips every morning. Please stay strong, honey. You are NOT a burden to others, and its okay to be scared, upset, and fearful - but its NOT okay to isolate, retreat into darkness and depression, or to push people away. You are important! You are loved! You matter! And I know im not wrong, because, now, you matter to me too! So there! 🤪 lol!
Mental health analysis aside, it's genuinely scares that me that in this day and age with all the technology we have, etc people can still seemingly disappear without a trace and then never be found.
One of the last things my friend did, prior to taking his life, was buying gifts for his step brothers, which were left ready to give. Poor Steven seems to have been in a similar mindset. I hope they found peace.
He had also just went to the grocery store the day before and bought a 3lb block of cheese and other items showing he’d be around a while to eat them. This is a case of foul play. Sorry about your friend tho 😔
@@jmklind thanks so much, I lost two friends that way, both on farms in rural areas, seems to be a particular issue in that community. The cheese is interesting. Either a purchase for Christmas, surely to share, showing future orientation, or a sign of erratic purchasing? Nothing else he did looked particularly erratic, it's possible to argue the road trips we're erratic, kinda, esp with money probs...plus we don't know what the landlord said to him on the phone that could cause distress. Someone suggested he was vanishing to start a new life because he couldn't come out in a religious community, that's very plausible. He said his relationship issues would soon be resolved maybe he was travelling outside his area to meet a guy? He could have encountered someone who took advantage or exception. It's not straightforward that's for sure.
@@tracybeeeee I saw your notification and was most perplexed! 😂 Not to make light, I understand fully now having made the connection and thank you very much for the information. That is most interesting. So that and the fact his phone messages were checked gives a different perspective, it looks less like suicide and more like disappearing or foul play. I pray it is the former.🙏
I am reminded of just how horrible the Great Recession was. I lost everything, and I never recovered. Just thinking about it makes me feel that sick despair I felt back then.
I spit out my drink with the “get it up” joke. 😂 Dr. Grande is savage! On a more serious note, I’ve watched and read a lot about this case. I kinda figure suicide. His behaviors are so irrational and out of the ordinary. Many people who take their own life do not show symptoms of depression. Foul play is always possible too. I am reminded of the Craig’s list killer who lured people in by posting job openings and rental space.
Such a very sad story. Poor Stephen. I'm sure his family are devastated that he couldn't accept their help and that they still don't know what happened to him. . So sad that he had been offered a job in the next little while. A very sensitive and gentle analysis of a tragic story. It's so strange that his body hasn't been found. I'm inclined to think that whatever happened to him wasn't of his own doing. Just my idea.
*WHAAAAT in the h-e-double hockey stix?? Thats insane, I def vote for Dr G to cover that, ive never heard of that incident before! What happened to the A-hole after doing that, do you know?*
I’ve never heard of that one either. Being an old woman though I acknowledge that we can be Nasty. Guard against it, ladies. -Catching more flies with Honey
I just watched the Ramirez video. There are quite a few videos of Amazon drivers (and other business drivers) losing it. Those folks are run ragged and then get yelled at. I’m not excusing the battering but think twice, people. We’re all suffering in some way unknown to others. Peace ✌🏼
For Christmas, two separate people gave me the same cactus as you have in an orange flower pot. When I see them, I always think about you. Thank you for all the work you put into creating your content that we are so lucky to have available. I hope you are happy and healthy!
There is also a saying in the UK that in old folks home staff quietly add Viagra to resident's meals so that when they sleep they don't roll off the bed 🤣😂
Love the shirt. 👍. I was wondering if this poor fellow couldn’t have possibly had a psychotic break. Due to stress. This along with a nervous breakdown happened to me after the death of my adult son. I couldn’t stand to be at home which is completely out of character for me , just not to be at home with my thoughts or alone. Just sad.
I just watched Stephanie Harlowe’s two-part series on this case, and I do lean more towards her theory (just my opinion, don’t come for me... iykyk), but this is definitely a very interesting analisis! Either way, a very sad case.
@@JustDr.S dodgy landlord who said he wasn't worried about unpaid rent. Yet Steven ends up missing right near where Steven's landlord who was charged with stealing meds from the pharmaceutical company he worked for...
@@tracybeeeee That's definitely possible. That DiMaggio guy seemed pretty sketchy, too. (I watched Stephanie Harlowe's video about this, just now.) It had a ton of information. Like the channel!
This is so Heartbreaking! It sounds like he was really struggling. His Poor Family. But they offered help. 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏 For Steven, and his Family. Thank You, Dr. Grande.
For an LDS member yes, 30 very much is a critical milestone, especially for finding a spouse. When your two-digit age starts with a 2, everyone and their auntie is bending over backwards to introduce you to potential candidates. When you turn 30 that stops and you're more or less considered a lost cause, especially if you're male and without a steady job that pays enough to support a stay-at-home wife and a bunch of kids. And marriage and family are central to LDS culture and doctrine.
Yayyy! I love it when people say that! Dr Grande is the busiest guy in the world, with his channel, his patreon (which I love so much cuz there's stuff in there that you don't get to see, otherwise!) and the two books he wrote, plus all his private clients, a wife and children, and only God knows what else!! Its wonderful that you said that! Have a great day, Anastasia!🥰💚
My suspicion is that he went into one of the houses and was (eventually) murdered. Perhaps he was lured there by a serial killer (perhaps on the pretense of a job interview), or perhaps he went there knowingly to partake in some kind of drug deal, and either made the wrong person angry or was double-crossed at some point.
I suspect that I am not the only one who listens for and delights in the inevitable humor quips in Dr Grande's content. As they are frequently found, it is apparent that he can keep it up (meaning the humor of course)
Geriatric thugs 😂😆 Dr Grande Today your shirt makes me think of the winter months, when its cold outside, the fireplace is lit and there's homemade bread baking in the oven! 🥰
@@Griselda_Puppy aww .. haha, that's so cute! 🥰 My name is in reference to a guitar player, who did a lot of solo stuff as "Buckethead" in which he wore a Kentucky Fried Chicken bucket on his head to a party one night, because he didn't want anyone to know he was the guitar player from Primus!
I’m not sure this is as mysterious and sensational as other TH-camrs make it out to be. I think it should be a warning that someone can be intelligent, good looking and seemingly “upbeat and optimistic” while suffering from crippling depression from barely keeping their heads above water for a long period of time. I’m not suggesting the family did anything wrong, they tried to help him financially but I think this is a good case for mental health intervention and checking in on your loved ones when they’re really struggling. Such a sad case. I feel almost certain he took his own life. Great analysis.
The problem is that his landlord was stealing drugs and guns and selling them to people and Steven owed the landlord rent money and may have been asked to make some Christmas deliveries for the landlord in exchange for rent.
This case makes me feel bad. The guy seemed like a genuinely decent guy who wasnt doing anything sketchy or questionable who fell on hard times and was depressed, and one day he just disappeared. Thats kind of sad.
What about "right at noon" would suggest he had an appointment for a job interview. Most businesses I know of would not schedule a job interview for noon due to it being the lunch hour and most people taking lunch during that time.
That Viagra reference….how did you do it with a straight face 😂🤣. I couldn’t do it! You’re one of a kind Dr. G., and you’re rocking the new shirts. They suit you well.
I'm really enjoying these missing cases Dr. Grande. They always fascinate me, especially Schaefer because he was not seen leaving the building and he was so big. He was like 6'4.
You should do medieval religious mystics like Joan of Arc or Hildegard von Bingen. Analyzing their mentality with modern mental health would be fascinating.
The cultural pressure within the Mormon community to be successful and perfect is overwhelming and the suicide rate is high. Your analysis is compassionate and spot on. Looking great, Dr. Grande!
Mormonism is an awful cult, they don't believe that JESUS is GOD, they also live by manmade rules and rituals.
@@maxalberts2003 I don't judge anyone, GOD will but we Christians must warn the lost.
@@albertafarmer8638 No offense but you obviously don’t know what Mormon’s believe. They do believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, which is why his name is in their title. I have family members who are Mormon and they are just as normal as my other Christian family members. It’s probably better to try and understand other people’s beliefs to better empathize where they are coming from.
@@AlbinoWhiteGuy Hi, the Mormons believe that our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST is a created being and you can not deny this fact! Mormons believe in a DIFFERENT "jesus" who can not save them. This false teacher Joseph Smith added to the Bible, he was an occultist.
Christians must warn the lost according to the Bible and point out false teachings and if you believe in a different "jesus" you are lost as well. The Bible tells us that JESUS is GOD, co-eternal and co-equal with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT.
@@albertafarmer8638 Who cares what they believe in... Who cares what you believe in?
What makes you think your religion is in any way superior to any other religion?
Each to their own.
Live and let live.
He makes your heart ache for a young person to end feeling like that
So many people wanted to help him. It’s sad that he felt he couldn’t accept it. He had this idea that he should do everything himself. It’s just sad.
*Some females have this problem as well. Although maybe not to the same extent that most guys have it. Its like we're expected to be self sufficient, and overcome **_our own_** problems despite any physical or emotional or monetary setbacks. Millenials, most of us, have been conditioned to be independent without accepting or even asking for help. We're taught to value independence over pride. Which is a dam☆ shame, because everyone needs a little (or a lot) of help from time to time; its nothing to be ashamed of asking for or needing! That notion needs to be in the garbage!*
@@Griselda_Puppy My mum didn't want to be a burden on anyone during her seventeen year long on-and-off fight with cancer. But she did accept help by professionals. She told me that my granny had been a hypochondriac who often lay in bed, loading off all the chores on her, so she knew exactly what it could feel like to others and became quite the opposite of her mom in this regard. So there may be very different reasons our personality gets shaped in similar directions I guess.
Pride. It’s never helpful
My thoughts exactly! He had plenty of help ! Just wouldn’t take it ! Very sad 😢!
Its the sin of pride. It will destroy you if you let it.
The retiree gang "just couldn't keep it up" 🤣🤣🤣 that was a literal LOL. Good one Dr Grande!
That made me lol too 🤣
I laughed so hard! I choked on coconut cookie rolls! Worth it!! 🤣😂
Dr. Grande will have prople imitating him, that is inevitable.
It actually took me a good couple of seconds to notice this one, but I literally laughed out loud as well.
That made me spit out my drink😂😂😂
20 minutes to freshen up the mind = 20 minutes to watch Dr Grande before writing again. Perfect procrastination. Thank you for your hard work! ✌️
@Ian W Huh?
@Ian W Ahh, gotcha! Lol, nope it isn't Sandrine. Beautiful name, though.
If you're Nietzche's ghost are you going to be a famous philosopher before you die this time? Also, if you're a ghost how are you going to die?
@Ian W Ah, I see. That makes sense.
@@AudioGardenSlave123 Damn, you managed to spell it wrong despite the word being in front of you!
Well, given everything in the universe is already predetermined, yes, to the former. The latter is for you to ruminate on...
I am 53 and over the years I have lived in my car slept in the woods and been beat up just for being homeless but I knew I had too press on.never give up.
I live in Henderson and this story has always intrigued me. From where he left his car and from where his cell phone pinged last are not remote areas. There are plenty of residential and businesses in between. There should have been additional surveillance somewhere 🤷♂️
Maybe not when it took police so long to get involved….a lot of that footage was probably just gone by the time they got around to even asking for it…if they even bothered.
I believe that Steven met some shady dealings on the receiving end of a very bad piece of business.
Have you watched That Chapter's video on this? I think the theory he suggests is highly plausible.
I live in Vegas. I think that "job interview" turned south fast--you KNOW those ads on FB and at the time CL, that often turn out to be robberies or hoaxes. My gut says foul play at the hands at that fake interview.
No foul play...he parked his car, walked to a bus that went out of town..dropping his cell and keys on the way..ended up at that water dam with bridge.that many have jumped from
I aspire to be half as calm as Dr. Grande always is. 🖤
my fiance killed himself just shy of his 30th b-day. he hated the thought of turning 30. he also was very future oriented when talking to other people. we had just signed a lease agreement to move to a different apartment. We had solid plans in place. And we did a lot of fun things in the weeks before his death. He had a good job, but hated it. He fooled all of us, though. Not all suicidal people act suicidal.
Sorry for your loss
Like the other reply, I am sorry for your loss as well. That had to really be hard.
Was he also of a german heritage?.
@@regularwarya are you talking to me? If you are, what are you trying to say?
@@carrielange2692
Yes. I was talking to you. Nothing never mind. It was a simple Yes/No question to answer.
The observation that this could have been his last act of kindness was a heartbreaking statement.
yeah, that was a very powerful statement - i've never thought of it like that but it could very well be true
Your analysis was very insightful Dr. Grande, particularly when you said that “stress has to go somewhere.” I think it speaks to the importance of facing mental health issues head on because they don’t simply disappear. Although it’s hard work, if not dealt with in a timely manner, they may reappear at another time in uglier ways.
I think Steven must have been depressed, anxious and highly disappointed with himself. Poor thing. 💔
Excellent review, thank you!❤️
On another note- your shirt is lovely:)
I firmly believe he met some shady dealings on the receiving end of a very bad piece of business. This is evident everywhere you look regarding the facts. Maybe Ken Mains can do a video on this one too.
This is such a sad case. It seems like he was such a nice guy, trying to do everything right. And he kept hitting dead ends. Eventually you do start to wonder, if all your efforts and work are just not ever going to pay off. Then it's like, why bother? Why keep putting yourself through it for nothing?
He seemed very kind and deeply tethered to a moral perspective that structured how things could be meaningful. Unfortunately, as admirable as such a reality can appear, it may be what drove him to oblivion. Rest In Peace Steven.
Not having a moral perspective can also have the same results. But yes, did didn't want to fail anyone or ask for help. So sad.
@Digby Dooright Yeah, I think he (either) committed suicide (say 80% probability) or was murdered (20%). But, then, why'd they hide his body? That part doesn't sit well with me. So, I think he committed suicide, and his body hasn't been found yet.
@@guest_5992 you are right about that. The problem of thought is the eventual nihilism it demands. Nietzsche knew it, drove him mad.
Do you think he died? If so how ? And why hasn’t his body even be found after more than a decade
@@PoeLemic if he committed suicide wouldn't it be easier to find his body --- if he was murdered he could have been buried anywhere -- if he committed suicide he would not be able to hide his own body
Dr. Grande wearing plaid like a boss.
This made me LOL 😆 🤷🏽♀️
He been watching too much Mr. Ballen videos 🤣🤣
Love it!
@@chrisdixon299 I just found MrBallen about a month ago. His videos are addictive and a bit scary!
@@iambored678 absolutely! 💯
The merchandise must be starting to pay off. New shelf, new folk art cacti, and now a new shirt.
The mallard shirt I have put on offer is short sleeved so I’m sure my generous donation attempt will be rebuked.
the folk art cactus is a gift from Mrs. Grande, his name is Harvey Dent
@@DonPeyote420 Yes and I am certain he is the Richard Moll version rather than Tommy Lee Jones one.
@@brianpratt3224 Night Court
@@RealmCenter40 Yeah but he voice Harvey Dent/Two Face in Batman the Animated Series.
My man, delivering those anatomy jokes with that stone cold delivery we’ve come to admire time and time again.
I find Stevens situation particularly sad. His family was obviously supportive and stood ready to help but there seemed to be a loneliness about him.
This is real mystery, thank you for revisiting it.
I think he was suicidal. The money/job problems, the driving, seeking out an old gf...sometimes family and acquaintances are the last to know because the subject "hid his feelings " well.
Yes but people suicidal do NOT go to great lengths to ensure their body is never found. This is extremely rare.
He revisit s his past, sign of depression.
Did he hide his body after too?
Nah, I think he was making deliveries for his landlord as a way to pay the rent and the landlord is known to have been involved with criminal things but could have had Steven delivering things without Steven even knowing what he was delivering.
Yes he parked his car, dropped.his cell and phone on way to bus out of town.. Most likely ended up at bridge at that water dam where many have jumped from..
Love it to come home from work and then there is a new case from our doctor coming in. 💙
This is such a sad story. It seems like Steven had such a hard time in his later years. It makes you wish that somehow you could have known him and helped him. It's too bad he felt unable to accept help from his family, although we don't know what his relationship was with him. He clearly either killed himself or was killed. R.I.P. Steven.
This case always bugs the crap out of me ! It’s really annoying how some people really believe that a guy who couldn’t figure out how to pay the rent would actually be able to disappear on purpose and start a secret, new life. The one thing you’d probably need for such a feat is money, and he had none. He also didn’t seem to be great at planning things.
If he ran off with Susan Powell, maybe she had money. 🙄
@@ty9736 yeah definitely, I actually feel like the goal of society is to make the homeless seem disappeared
He gave up....
Plus he drove a Chevy Cavalier. Hard to overcome.
I think he was murdered. Targeted for robbery under the false tenses of a job interview, fought back and was murdered. It was done by people inexperienced who toyed with his phone to see if his family were looking for him.
Dr. Grande,
So many young men have been disappearing:
- Macin Smith (St. George UT)
- Daniel Robinson (Buckeye AZ)
- Bryce Laspisa (California)
- Jason Landry (Texas)
Just to name a few.
So mysterious and sad.
The Doc’s looking rather dapper today🙌🏻
Everyday!
Hair cut and a shirt that fits
What can he say.... He's a Dapper Dan Man!!! lol
@@jessiec.9169 he eschews Fop!
Truly a gentleman and a scholar.
@@petezipardi4022 From a lady's point of view he is the definition of style and intelligence. He can be both... And is.. He also put a "❤️" on this original comment.... So I think it's safe to say he is a good level of fop & scholar.. and he knows it. 😉
I think saying he "eschews fop" is a little over-the-top! I do not know Dr. Grande however this is what I concluded after my analysis. These however are just my opinion and not meant to diagnose anybody. Just observing what might be happening in a situation like this. 🤫👍💋
Poor guy, Stephen life was not easy,
Great video Dr Grande!!!
I’ m not Mormon, but I’ve been acquainted with a few in the LDS church. Mormons are typically very focused, purpose-driven and family-oriented. They often get married and begin their families very young. Any young man unemployed and unattached at 30 is might feel an urge to pull things together; a young man in the LDS church in that position would likely feel like an unredeemable failure.
I bet this is exactly what happened. very sad outcome he decided life was a failure
Also all that traveling and walking, sleeping in his car…was he getting much sleep? Even if he wasn’t depressed up to that point, lack of proper rest can do terrible things to your mental state.
@@mlee81 maybe he was trying so hard that it caused him to not rest properly which can have similar effects as having a “bad trip” on drugs.
It is amazing with cameras, cell phones, etc that a human being can vanish off the face of the planet.
Pretty easy when the person that did it is protected by law enforcement. Theres more to this case, to do with the landlord and who he last visited.
@metanina
Truth is infinitely stranger than fiction (fiction, in this case, referring to outlandish conspiracy theories)
@@kingayy9267 Wow, ha. Stay ignorant, its nice and fluffy over there!
Lots of wide open places in that area.
Isn’t this from a decade ago before advances in technology
The delivery of the viagra joke is gold.
Omg I laughed so hard 🤣
Agreed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I spit out my drink when he said that lmaoooo
The good doctor , slips in a dead pan joke or two in most of his videos. If you are not paying close attention , you will miss them .
Dr. Grande, you are so funny!
12:14 this joke was delivered so perfectly that it took me more then a second to realize it was a joke 😂
That joke was incredible
Your interpretation (first and foremost the third theory you present) of this man's life situation and his actions makes an already presumably sad case ...incredibly sad. 😢
Dr. Grande, your extensive background in working with suicidal people is obvious in the tone of your voice. It sounds understanding and caring at the same time.
It's so sad to hear of cases such as this one; too bad that therapists are not ethically allowed to share stories about people they have helped. A case with a happy ending would help lighten the depressing tone of this one.
Just a reminder I'm not diagn--IT'S A NEW SHIRT! I THOUGHT I'D ALREADY SEEN THEM ALL!
Plaid is a whole new world!
I love love love the whole "shirt thing!"
@@janedmunds4218 specially when Dr Grande is wearing it! 😍💚
When Dr. Grande wants to go for a nice long walk, he opens the door of his closet and starts walking. After two hours of fashion sightseeing he returns revived and decides that he needs.... more shirts. 😊
@@janedmunds4218 Absolutely! :) I think Dr Grande uses the Acronym T.A.S.T.E.L.E.S.S to describe plaid shirts.
Me, singing to the cactus on the end table:
*I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend.*
I lived in Vegas during this time and remember the story. Great content like usual Dr.
that viagra joke was too good. great analysis as always, Dr. Grande :))
I love the butchered “hello” at the beginning of every video. A true trademark!
I don't understand the first theory. How does one "start over" when they don't really have anything to begin with? Seems like his depression was stemming from the fact that he was never really able to "get started" in the first place.
The shackles his religion put on him, the expectations it might have provoked in him about how he should be living by 30 years old, could have been liberating to leave behind?
Yes, it would mean leaving his family, but if he felt he was letting them down or was a burden then he might have felt it was a kindness to go? (not knowing it's a living torture not knowing what happened to your loved one)
I don't know if suicide is against their teachings, if it is then moving on to pastures new could have meant he had everything to begin again.
Once gone it's difficult to admit what happened and get in contact again with your old life, all the fuss that's made about you going missing, how can you just pop up again and say you're alright?
I hope he is still alive, maybe one day he'll have the strength to let his family know.
The streets and Homeless shelters house many people under such circumstances. That and a thousand other insecurities and burdens ! One offer of an idea.
Gosh this thread rings true to me. I got to 30 and had nothing, growing up in a close religious community it was like I was finished before I was begun. Thank God I was blessed, oddly I nearly died and that lead to me becoming pregnant with my son, my life went in a whole different direction but I remember that lonelines, not to mention poverty. This story really spoke to me. The whole thing lead me to empower my own children, my eldest is now off at uni with his girlfriend of 5yrs. I think Stephen put way way too high a standard upon himself and it was impossible to live up to. His family clearly loved him, I wonder if society and the religious community didn't back that up.
It’s quite easy to understand... He was coming out of the closet, to start a new life...
@@berlintanker I hope so that's hopeful.
Hey Grande Fam! How is everyone? Good morning from Australia! ❤️🌏
Hey hey, Billie! Im doing GREAT! Life is so good,, and the desert is so beautiful today! I hope you're having a great day today, too! And .. Good afternoon from Las Vegas!
Hi Billie, I'm fine, thank you. Good evening from Germany. 💙
Good evening from Germany. I am doing great and I hope you too :D
Hi Billie! I’m doing fine. Thanks for the greeting, what a nice surprise! I hope you’re having s great day. Sending you 💕 from Southern California.
Arizona! Hey!😎
I always appreciate how you tie up stories with astute conclusions and lessons learned.
I remember hearing about this on the Investigation Discovery channel years ago. I’ve always thought the whole thing was strange. From his disappearance to the unusual amount of traveling that he did prior. Hope his family finds closure.
Dr. Grande has mastered the art of uploading at the perfect time 😍
This case makes me sad :( as someone in my 20s I always feel like I’m not meeting certain standards and deadlines fast enough as well, these expectations we may put on ourself can be damaging.
One last check of the saved voice-mail messages to hear familiar voices of those he loved before treking out into the vast Nevada wilderness.
Except that wasn’t the last call on his phone. It was believed to be for a decade until about six months ago when the police released around 150 pages of the case file. That last call was to a redacted number but clearly not his own/VM as that number was not redacted at any other time in the call logs. The police know who he/his murderer called, but WE don’t.
your videos are the highlight of my day!!! thank you for all that you do!!
My favourite shirt yet!! The geriatric joke - hilarious! Still giggling at that one! 😉
Highlight of our days! Blessings to you and yours, Dr G🙏👏
Blessings to you too, Penelope! (I so love your cute name!)
@@BucketHeadianHagg Thank you so much, please please have some yourself and a big hug! How lovely of you.🥰💗💞
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 You are the perfect example of why I love this channel so much! There are some really good people here that bring so many smiles and happy love feelings each day with their comments to each other.
The blessing today, was *you!* You brought love to the table.. How very wonderful! 💚🥰
@@BucketHeadianHagg 😭😭😭😭😭That’s such an amazing thing to say, you’ve made my day, bless you. I was actually really down and struggling with my health and you’ve lifted my spirits right up, thank you with all my heart and God bless you and your loved ones xxx💞🥰💞xxx
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 yes honey, im struggling too. Its been a very scary and hectic time these last 4 weeks of horrible health news. Im having out-of-body experiences dealing with it.
I'm going to say your name outloud to God & The Universe, that your health will either improve, or that you will find some peace and comfort with the people in your life who love and cherish you.
I wont forget you, Penelope. Your name will be on my lips every morning. Please stay strong, honey. You are NOT a burden to others, and its okay to be scared, upset, and fearful - but its NOT okay to isolate, retreat into darkness and depression, or to push people away. You are important! You are loved! You matter! And I know im not wrong, because, now, you matter to me too! So there! 🤪 lol!
“Geriatric viagra “ 😂 You and your plaid shirt are too cute, my friend! ( is it ok if I call you my friend?)
Yes you can call him your friend. Just be cautious where you sit if he takes geriatric viagra.
@@corporatehousing5452 hahaha 😝
Mental health analysis aside, it's genuinely scares that me that in this day and age with all the technology we have, etc people can still seemingly disappear without a trace and then never be found.
Exactly what i was thinking a few days ago... I just don't understand how is it possible...
One of the last things my friend did, prior to taking his life, was buying gifts for his step brothers, which were left ready to give. Poor Steven seems to have been in a similar mindset. I hope they found peace.
Damn that’s sad.. it makes sense
He had also just went to the grocery store the day before and bought a 3lb block of cheese and other items showing he’d be around a while to eat them. This is a case of foul play. Sorry about your friend tho 😔
@@jmklind thanks so much, I lost two friends that way, both on farms in rural areas, seems to be a particular issue in that community.
The cheese is interesting. Either a purchase for Christmas, surely to share, showing future orientation, or a sign of erratic purchasing? Nothing else he did looked particularly erratic, it's possible to argue the road trips we're erratic, kinda, esp with money probs...plus we don't know what the landlord said to him on the phone that could cause distress.
Someone suggested he was vanishing to start a new life because he couldn't come out in a religious community, that's very plausible. He said his relationship issues would soon be resolved maybe he was travelling outside his area to meet a guy? He could have encountered someone who took advantage or exception.
It's not straightforward that's for sure.
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 cheese, peanut butter, etc etc.
@@tracybeeeee I saw your notification and was most perplexed! 😂 Not to make light, I understand fully now having made the connection and thank you very much for the information. That is most interesting. So that and the fact his phone messages were checked gives a different perspective, it looks less like suicide and more like disappearing or foul play.
I pray it is the former.🙏
I am reminded of just how horrible the Great Recession was. I lost everything, and I never recovered. Just thinking about it makes me feel that sick despair I felt back then.
Same. 🥺
Terrible, loss at any rate.
It's, terrible to think he had no way of coping with all those heavy burdens... 😢 Life, was sure stacked against him.
I spit out my drink with the “get it up” joke. 😂 Dr. Grande is savage!
On a more serious note, I’ve watched and read a lot about this case. I kinda figure suicide. His behaviors are so irrational and out of the ordinary. Many people who take their own life do not show symptoms of depression.
Foul play is always possible too. I am reminded of the Craig’s list killer who lured people in by posting job openings and rental space.
Such a very sad story. Poor Stephen. I'm sure his family are devastated that he couldn't accept their help and that they still don't know what happened to him. . So sad that he had been offered a job in the next little while.
A very sensitive and gentle analysis of a tragic story.
It's so strange that his body hasn't been found. I'm inclined to think that whatever happened to him wasn't of his own doing. Just my idea.
How do you know someone had a job lined up for him ? and doing what? I've never heard this before
Even in the darkest stories of sad circumstances, Dr Grande can find a reason and an opportunity for humor.
Please cover people like Itzel Ramirez, a delivery driver who assaulted punched in the face a 67 year old woman over 10 times captured on video.
*WHAAAAT in the h-e-double hockey stix?? Thats insane, I def vote for Dr G to cover that, ive never heard of that incident before! What happened to the A-hole after doing that, do you know?*
I’ve never heard of that one either. Being an old woman though I acknowledge that we can be Nasty. Guard against it, ladies.
-Catching more flies with Honey
@@Griselda_Puppy search the web
@@lyndao7356 look it up and then tell me if you think she deserved the beating
I just watched the Ramirez video. There are quite a few videos of Amazon drivers (and other business drivers) losing it. Those folks are run ragged and then get yelled at. I’m not excusing the battering but think twice, people. We’re all suffering in some way unknown to others. Peace ✌🏼
Awww . Poor guy. These disappearances are just so bewildering.
You've gotten a new shirt and it looks great!
This poor young man! What a sad story 😢. I hope that he is alive and well, but...
Omg, you keep raising the level on great jokes delivered with such a straight face!
The viagra joke !!!!..............I can't stop laughing and blushing. :)
😂
For Christmas, two separate people gave me the same cactus as you have in an orange flower pot. When I see them, I always think about you.
Thank you for all the work you put into creating your content that we are so lucky to have available. I hope you are happy and healthy!
There is also a saying in the UK that in old folks home staff quietly add Viagra to resident's meals so that when they sleep they don't roll off the bed 🤣😂
😂
This a sad case 😞 not a joke 😕Lana
How do they keep the women in bed?
All the scenarios are sad 😕. Thanks for discussing. I remember this case.
Love the shirt. 👍. I was wondering if this poor fellow couldn’t have possibly had a psychotic break. Due to stress. This along with a nervous breakdown happened to me after the death of my adult son. I couldn’t stand to be at home which is completely out of character for me , just not to be at home with my thoughts or alone. Just sad.
I'm so very sorry for your loss❤
I’m worried about that small cactus. He looks like he’s about to jump… 😆
I'm worried too. It may be high on neuroticism.
@@mrparlanejxtra Remember not to diagnose , just speculate on what might be happening .
I think Mrs Grande will talk him back from the edge.
@@Mickey-os2my Quite correct
I think the mug is on the edge too 🤣
Yay right on time!! Thanks doc !
Geriatric delinquency; I love it! Too funny.
the more you look into this, the less it looks like he ended his life. there's no way they wouldnt have found him by now
I just watched Stephanie Harlowe’s two-part series on this case, and I do lean more towards her theory (just my opinion, don’t come for me... iykyk), but this is definitely a very interesting analisis! Either way, a very sad case.
I'm going to have to have a look at her video. Murder? Suicide? Disappeared? Hmm. 🤔
@@JustDr.S dodgy landlord who said he wasn't worried about unpaid rent. Yet Steven ends up missing right near where Steven's landlord who was charged with stealing meds from the pharmaceutical company he worked for...
@@tracybeeeee That's definitely possible. That DiMaggio guy seemed pretty sketchy, too. (I watched Stephanie Harlowe's video about this, just now.) It had a ton of information. Like the channel!
@@JustDr.S Glad you liked it, Stephanie is amazing.
Watched Stephanie’s video on this case not too long ago as well. She’s fantastic.
Stress is the silent killer.
This is so Heartbreaking! It sounds like he was really struggling. His Poor Family. But they offered help. 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏 For Steven, and his Family. Thank You, Dr. Grande.
For an LDS member yes, 30 very much is a critical milestone, especially for finding a spouse. When your two-digit age starts with a 2, everyone and their auntie is bending over backwards to introduce you to potential candidates. When you turn 30 that stops and you're more or less considered a lost cause, especially if you're male and without a steady job that pays enough to support a stay-at-home wife and a bunch of kids. And marriage and family are central to LDS culture and doctrine.
Thank you for all your hard work!
Yayyy! I love it when people say that! Dr Grande is the busiest guy in the world, with his channel, his patreon (which I love so much cuz there's stuff in there that you don't get to see, otherwise!) and the two books he wrote, plus all his private clients, a wife and children, and only God knows what else!!
Its wonderful that you said that!
Have a great day, Anastasia!🥰💚
Three books? Also cacti changes and shirt decisions!
@@bthomson oh wait.. There are three?!! I only saw two on Amazon when I bought his newest one .. Please help! Which is the 3rd one, please? 🙂
I've never heard of this sad young man. Sorry for all his troubles.
Susan Mann if you want more on Steven please go check out my friend Arrin Stoner page. He has an extremely thorough playlist for Steven.
The humor is primo! Thank you, Doc G!!
My suspicion is that he went into one of the houses and was (eventually) murdered. Perhaps he was lured there by a serial killer (perhaps on the pretense of a job interview), or perhaps he went there knowingly to partake in some kind of drug deal, and either made the wrong person angry or was double-crossed at some point.
Me too!
Yup
Most likely scenario.
I suspect that I am not the only one who listens for and delights in the inevitable humor quips in Dr Grande's content. As they are frequently found, it is apparent that he can keep it up (meaning the humor of course)
Geriatric thugs 😂😆 Dr Grande Today your shirt makes me think of the winter months, when its cold outside, the fireplace is lit and there's homemade bread baking in the oven! 🥰
I love red plaid shirts! Sexy!🤣
*Your youtube names hilarious! My daughter calls one of my dogs bucket-head.* 😂
@@Griselda_Puppy aww .. haha, that's so cute! 🥰
My name is in reference to a guitar player, who did a lot of solo stuff as "Buckethead" in which he wore a Kentucky Fried Chicken bucket on his head to a party one night, because he didn't want anyone to know he was the guitar player from Primus!
@@carolv8450 Please tell me his shirt is NOT red. It'll save me time and money on an appointment to the eye doctor's office. 😳
@🔴 Bucket Head
Was the guy on one of the shows like America's Got Talent?
The name and bucket shtick sounds familiar.
I considered supporting your patreon and did. Thanks for all you do DocG
I’m not sure this is as mysterious and sensational as other TH-camrs make it out to be. I think it should be a warning that someone can be intelligent, good looking and seemingly “upbeat and optimistic” while suffering from crippling depression from barely keeping their heads above water for a long period of time. I’m not suggesting the family did anything wrong, they tried to help him financially but I think this is a good case for mental health intervention and checking in on your loved ones when they’re really struggling. Such a sad case. I feel almost certain he took his own life. Great analysis.
The problem is that his landlord was stealing drugs and guns and selling them to people and Steven owed the landlord rent money and may have been asked to make some Christmas deliveries for the landlord in exchange for rent.
@@wishingb5859 the landlord was a very sketchy person I’ve seen his mugshot and he’s pretty scary looking
Well said Well said lady no lie
I like how Dr. Grande covers these mysterious cases with speculations.
I've always noticed that Dr. Grande blinks very slowly
This case makes me feel bad. The guy seemed like a genuinely decent guy who wasnt doing anything sketchy or questionable who fell on hard times and was depressed, and one day he just disappeared. Thats kind of sad.
What about "right at noon" would suggest he had an appointment for a job interview. Most businesses I know of would not schedule a job interview for noon due to it being the lunch hour and most people taking lunch during that time.
That tiny tiny boi on the corner of that little table made me laugh! 🌵
My cat would swipe it right off haha
When you're so tiny, you gotta be on edge to get noticed 😅👍
@@bluaurora8635 m
Suicide, murder, accidental death - I have no idea. But his behaviour speaks to me of depression, deep, long-term depression.
That Viagra reference….how did you do it with a straight face 😂🤣. I couldn’t do it! You’re one of a kind Dr. G., and you’re rocking the new shirts. They suit you well.
Dr. Grande you're unique humor gave me the laugh I needed to get through the afternoon today. Thank you very much.
There is a lot of missing information in this video regarding Brett Bishop and Mark DiMaggio.
Couldn't keep it up funniest thing I've ever heard love u doc keep em coming 😊
I guess those retired criminals weren't as hard as they once were!
Nice 👍
The cultural analyses really are a nice bonus to this wonderful cactus appreciation channel.
The way doc pronounces "Nephi" is life
I'm really enjoying these missing cases Dr. Grande. They always fascinate me, especially Schaefer because he was not seen leaving the building and he was so big. He was like 6'4.
The theory of the suicide is the most probable. This guy had no hope of a successful life at all!
"A geratic gang selling vigara but it didn't stand up ". Dr Grande you are the best. Love the plaid shirt.
Digging your shirt! You look like a high-school science/basketball coach today Doc!
I've been on a binge watching DR.Grande ....... 👊
Me too!!
Going back to visit an old girlfriend seems like he was trying to rewind into a happier time. Really unfortunate story.
I wonder if the sheer stress of life pressing in on Mr. Kocher caused him to experience a psychotic break. Poor, sweet man,
You should do medieval religious mystics like Joan of Arc or Hildegard von Bingen. Analyzing their mentality with modern mental health would be fascinating.