I’m part Slavic, and I’m very interested in learning about Slavic mythology and paganism. Europe has to return to its pagan beliefs if we are to preserve our homeland, and protect our people
So my family is Bosnian-Croat. My parents have less than zero interest in mythology and history. But when I was a kid, when there was a really fierce thunderstorm my mom would sometimes tell me a story; that the thunder was caused by St. Elijah who was furious that his brother hid gifts he had received on his birthday. That stayed with me for a long time because I always thought it was really weird compared to normal Catholic things. When I grew up I developed an interest in myth and history and learned that Perun (the Slavic thunder god) was turned into St. Elijah by the Christians to help convert the pagan Slavs. So basically, my mom told me a singular folk tale that had probably been passed down for thousands of years.
I heard that story for the first time from my Dalmatian-Croatian grandmother. By the way, I was born in northwestern Croatia (Kajkavian region). Here Slavic mythology- folklore (and its Catholic derivatives) leans more towards Western Slavic mythology(folklore). Stories about St. Elijah are more characteristic of Dalmatian and Herzegovinian Croats. And I think that they are common among Serbs and Montenegrins of those parts as well. Of course, in the Orthodox version.
Very interesting discussion! I am ethnomusicologist, who researched links between Lithuanian and Bulgarian/Balkan archaic calendar folklore traditions and music, I am very interested in parallels between Baltic and Slavic folklore, so would be so nice if for the future you would prepare some kind of comparison of Baltic and Slavic folklore/mythology subjects. :)
Wonderful interview young man it's been a while since I tuned in to you but I've subscribed. Blessings to you and yours From an old pagan Currently in the snowy mountains of Southern Oregon
About reincarnation, I don't really remember source, but there is remaining of this in folk beliefs. Scholar questioned peasant about death (I don't remember details) and he answered "Mr. God is taking soul from one, and giving it to another, and that all "
Hi stefan, im curious if you ever saw the episodes of the tv show american gods where some slavic gods were characters? Im curious of how you thought they were represented on the show if you saw it. I think czernobog was a character on there.
You can do it with svantevit, porenut, triglav also. I don't have any proof, but I think its Sarmatian/Scythian influence originating from the time they were pushed by the Huns and melted in with the slavs
@@pripegalapobedonosni3324 In my opinion, Veles,Jarilo,Triglav,Sventavit are the same. There is a linguistic research in progres showing surprising results.
it´s important to emphasize the local side of things.. nature alone defines a lot of things in natural cultures, river tribes are always different from mountain tribes (you find it even in clan names, they said people from that and that river). also the size of the units is worthy of consideration.. like here in finnic cultures we mostly had family size units, even villages were mostly winter villages (average population of 20 people), that´s why there were few priests as such, because every family had their own shrine and caretaker of that shrine (which was then passed down). of course the more south you go the bigger the units become, because of easier living conditions.. however i would argue the family units were still there, because they are the core of human existance everywhere.. the village / tribal level is on top of that, it has more to do with the leading families (and their gods). but these were all kin villages, make no mistake of that (they were even called nests here), so they were totemic in nature, tribal villages.. here there were usually two or three starting moieties (you were either a mos or a por, each having their own creator gods) which then separated into four or six smaller kins or families (with each family having their own protector deities). however in addition to blood ties it had a lot to do with the place.. because when you moved to a new place that´s when you started a new tribe too (you find records of three families starting a new village or tribe), so you could say it´s a living thing (they both traced the origin and created new at the same time). also what´s interesting they said if number of men goes over 30 the tribe dies :) could be 300 in the south, just saying.
oh, and i have two theories about the tribe dying at 30 men. one is if you have too many boys they just scatter everywhere and you´re left with a weak home base (why they said here the tribe actually continues from the girls). another is maybe that´s the amount of hereditory names they had.. because if you invent new ones it´s not the same tribe anymore is it (because they represent the creators of the tribe, or the first generations). it´s safe to say without the tribes the tribal gods mean much less, why it´s so important to discover new ones (possibly the offspring of the old ones). it´s like a chain (if you know that song, it´s meant to continue).
A fellow pagan needs some help. My wife has been following subverted forms of “paganism” for a long time and now she regards them as ridiculous and has turned her back on paganism and is more interested in becoming a Christian instead. I’d been trying to explain my world view to her and even before she lost faith she didn’t understand it. She doesn’t understand that our gods a real within nature and not a physical form. That whole idea “falls apart” in her world view. I’m lost. I feel like I failed her. I need some guidance to see what I can do to help her better.
I understand, but maybe she does not need to be helped? It is not an easy problem to solve over comments, but I think it would be good to understand why she is more attracted to Christianity than paganism, or any other religion for that matter? Because Paganism and Christianity are not opposites, Christianity adopted most of the morals, virtues and even mythological concepts from pre-Christian European traditions, especially from some ancient Greek philosophers. It just depends on which branch of Christianity we are talking about, because Orthodox and Catholic have integrated the most pagan elements. What comes after them usually "purifies" the religion from these elements. So her affinity towards Christianity could be as a lack of proper understanding of paganism, which is not easy to grasp since it is not a dogmatic religion whose knowledge is contained in a single book. I suggest watching my video series "Introduction to European Paganism" which is also published as a book on Amazon (which is a bit more detailed than the videos).
Slavic mythology is in Slavic Vedas. Some of it it is in “Book of Light” I have translation this book to English. If interested leave message here TY. Slavic mythology is not Pagan it is “Rod Boží” in English; “family Godhood”. Creator is call Ra-M-Cha.
I don't want to upset you, the "Book of Light" was written by a Jewish swindler from the city of Omsk by the name of Khinevich. He's a laughing stock and a meme character. He stole the texts themselves by reworking them a little from an interesting Moscow sect from the time of the USSR, which called itself the Templars. Khinevich lived in the United States for some time and when he returned, he tried to create his own religion following the example of American Mormons. He stole the story from the Mormons about how he found his sacred texts. This is another brazen and greedy Jewish fraudster.
I’m part Slavic, and I’m very interested in learning about Slavic mythology and paganism. Europe has to return to its pagan beliefs if we are to preserve our homeland, and protect our people
oh finally, a video on slavic mythology, i need to know more about my ancestral beliefs :D
Finally, two of my favorite youtuber talk about old ways. Slava and skal from Croatia
So my family is Bosnian-Croat. My parents have less than zero interest in mythology and history.
But when I was a kid, when there was a really fierce thunderstorm my mom would sometimes tell me a story; that the thunder was caused by St. Elijah who was furious that his brother hid gifts he had received on his birthday.
That stayed with me for a long time because I always thought it was really weird compared to normal Catholic things.
When I grew up I developed an interest in myth and history and learned that Perun (the Slavic thunder god) was turned into St. Elijah by the Christians to help convert the pagan Slavs.
So basically, my mom told me a singular folk tale that had probably been passed down for thousands of years.
I heard that story for the first time from my Dalmatian-Croatian grandmother. By the way, I was born in northwestern Croatia (Kajkavian region). Here Slavic mythology- folklore (and its Catholic derivatives) leans more towards Western Slavic mythology(folklore). Stories about St. Elijah are more characteristic of Dalmatian and Herzegovinian Croats. And I think that they are common among Serbs and Montenegrins of those parts as well. Of course, in the Orthodox version.
Yeah my grandmother used to tell me same story and im from Dalmatia
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Great summary intro., worth the time, and the book and journal references are helpful. Thank you.
Very interesting discussion! I am ethnomusicologist, who researched links between Lithuanian and Bulgarian/Balkan archaic calendar folklore traditions and music, I am very interested in parallels between Baltic and Slavic folklore, so would be so nice if for the future you would prepare some kind of comparison of Baltic and Slavic folklore/mythology subjects. :)
Being an ethnomusicologist, I would like to hear what you have to say instead :)
I think you'll find my video "Drumming and Shamanism among the Slavs" interesting.
I am so happy to see a Macedonian person interested in Slavic Paganism and folklore. I have long thought Macedonia should embrace its Slavic heritage.
Svarog... good stuff, cheers from Serbia.
Nice to have them both together in one stream.
Very interesting
Nice to meet Thor
Wonderful interview young man it's been a while since I tuned in to you but I've subscribed. Blessings to you and yours From an old pagan Currently in the snowy mountains of Southern Oregon
Слава Роду! Слава богам и предкам нашим!
Kakosi brate. Koje ovaj koň
@@BanannaSlipknot Dobro! Причем тут лошадь?)
About reincarnation, I don't really remember source, but there is remaining of this in folk beliefs. Scholar questioned peasant about death (I don't remember details) and he answered "Mr. God is taking soul from one, and giving it to another, and that all "
I'm here from Thor's channel. I'm interested in pagan European belief systems and how they meld into other ones.
Sława Perunowi! Greetings from polish pagan who unfortunetaly lives in Dublin
Hi stefan, im curious if you ever saw the episodes of the tv show american gods where some slavic gods were characters? Im curious of how you thought they were represented on the show if you saw it. I think czernobog was a character on there.
BTW the figures on the Zbruch idol are very simmilar to figures on stones in Kivik Kungagraven.
You can actually can connect Perun,Veles and Morana with indian gods Shiva,Murugan and Kálí.
You can do it with svantevit, porenut, triglav also.
I don't have any proof, but I think its Sarmatian/Scythian influence originating from the time they were pushed by the Huns and melted in with the slavs
@@pripegalapobedonosni3324 In my opinion, Veles,Jarilo,Triglav,Sventavit are the same.
There is a linguistic research in progres showing surprising results.
it´s important to emphasize the
local side of things.. nature
alone defines a lot of things
in natural cultures, river
tribes are always different
from mountain tribes (you find
it even in clan names, they said
people from that and that
river).
also the size of the units is
worthy of consideration..
like here in finnic cultures
we mostly had family size units,
even villages were mostly winter
villages (average population of
20 people), that´s why there were
few priests as such, because
every family had their own shrine
and caretaker of that shrine
(which was then passed down).
of course the more south you go
the bigger the units become,
because of easier living conditions..
however i would argue the family
units were still there, because
they are the core of human existance
everywhere.. the village / tribal
level is on top of that, it has more
to do with the leading families
(and their gods).
but these were all kin villages,
make no mistake of that (they were
even called nests here), so they
were totemic in nature, tribal
villages.. here there were
usually two or three starting
moieties (you were either a mos
or a por, each having their own
creator gods) which then separated
into four or six smaller kins
or families (with each family
having their own protector
deities).
however in addition to blood ties
it had a lot to do with the place..
because when you moved to a new
place that´s when you started a new
tribe too (you find records of three
families starting a new village or
tribe), so you could say it´s a living
thing (they both traced the origin and
created new at the same time).
also what´s interesting they said
if number of men goes over 30 the
tribe dies :)
could be 300 in the south, just
saying.
oh, and i have two theories about
the tribe dying at 30 men.
one is if you have too many boys
they just scatter everywhere and
you´re left with a weak home base
(why they said here the tribe actually
continues from the girls).
another is maybe that´s the amount
of hereditory names they had..
because if you invent new ones it´s
not the same tribe anymore is it
(because they represent the creators
of the tribe, or the first generations).
it´s safe to say without the tribes
the tribal gods mean much less,
why it´s so important to discover
new ones (possibly the offspring
of the old ones).
it´s like a chain (if you know
that song, it´s meant to continue).
Sta ima brate
Ovo ono
@@TheWorldTree ovo ono, sta? Kako je familia? Jk I’m just playing with u brother. Great work tho. Very informative
@@BanannaSlipknot haha hvala ti. Dobro je sve ;)
A fellow pagan needs some help.
My wife has been following subverted forms of “paganism” for a long time and now she regards them as ridiculous and has turned her back on paganism and is more interested in becoming a Christian instead. I’d been trying to explain my world view to her and even before she lost faith she didn’t understand it. She doesn’t understand that our gods a real within nature and not a physical form. That whole idea “falls apart” in her world view. I’m lost. I feel like I failed her. I need some guidance to see what I can do to help her better.
I understand, but maybe she does not need to be helped?
It is not an easy problem to solve over comments, but I think it would be good to understand why she is more attracted to Christianity than paganism, or any other religion for that matter? Because Paganism and Christianity are not opposites, Christianity adopted most of the morals, virtues and even mythological concepts from pre-Christian European traditions, especially from some ancient Greek philosophers. It just depends on which branch of Christianity we are talking about, because Orthodox and Catholic have integrated the most pagan elements. What comes after them usually "purifies" the religion from these elements.
So her affinity towards Christianity could be as a lack of proper understanding of paganism, which is not easy to grasp since it is not a dogmatic religion whose knowledge is contained in a single book. I suggest watching my video series "Introduction to European Paganism" which is also published as a book on Amazon (which is a bit more detailed than the videos).
@@TheWorldTree Thank you for replying.
I will reach out either via Twitter or email if you have one to discuss the matter further.
Slavic mythology is in Slavic Vedas. Some of it it is in “Book of Light” I have translation this book to English. If interested leave message here TY. Slavic mythology is not Pagan it is “Rod Boží” in English; “family Godhood”. Creator is call Ra-M-Cha.
That's complete bullshit.
I don't want to upset you, the "Book of Light" was written by a Jewish swindler from the city of Omsk by the name of Khinevich. He's a laughing stock and a meme character. He stole the texts themselves by reworking them a little from an interesting Moscow sect from the time of the USSR, which called itself the Templars. Khinevich lived in the United States for some time and when he returned, he tried to create his own religion following the example of American Mormons. He stole the story from the Mormons about how he found his sacred texts. This is another brazen and greedy Jewish fraudster.