Kitsiderations: Chest Rigs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- This video is meant to provide amplifying information on why you might select a chest rig over a plate carrier, and considerations for what type of chest rig would be best for your needs. It also covers some considerations for the load out of the rig. Check out some other videos that relate to this one on the channel.
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Dude, I am really enjoying your posts because I can tell the difference between those who did the thing for awhile and those who haven’t, ie a two quart canteen front and center. IMO there are two tyoes of gear/kit video’s. The first is the “I am here to look cool” cause they have zero water on their range kit video and then the “this is serious business” video because they have water available on their kit. I’ve grown tired of the “it’s to heavy” crowd. Of course it’s heavy. It was heavy when I was doing it 30 years ago. It’s always been heavy. Who said it’s not supposed to be heavy? I appreciate you showing me the new gear!
Srs bsns
Where I live, there is water available all over (streams, river, ponds). Water in this circumstance can mean a filter straw if weight is an issue. That said, I prefer a camelback/water bladder in a small pack. My water bladder can easily be moved into a bigger ruck so no problem there.
Suggestion: A slightly higher camera angle looking down more at the gear would have helped. Lots of what you were pointing to on the table was out of frame and could not be seen when flat on the table, unless you were holding it up. (Harder with only 1 fully-functioning arm I'm sure!)
Thanks, and you're right. I was rushing the filming which created some various shortcomings with the presentation. Appreciate the feedback.
@@Blakewater0326 6 p's man.
Super informative videos though, I'm really enjoying them as I put together my "everyone I know is dead; I'm leaving" kit.
Some of the most straight forward and best information a person can get. No flashiness, no comedy show, no BS, just the straight goods. Thanks Blake.
I am also a Recon Marine, and former SOTG instructor....just wanted to say great job and Semper Fi...
Is there a difference between SOTG and EOTG? Why can't more Marines outside of a MEU attend SOTG courses? How does a MEU become SOC, and why don't they have the SOC designation and 31st MEU boat raid capability? How can a Marine become an instructor at SOTG? Why isn't MARSOC training with the MEU every workup? Should MEUs have FAST platoons attached?
Why doesn't Recon have a Regimental Commander, or Force Recon a Battalion Commander? Should there just be Force Recon Battalions instead of companies? Should the Urban Recon Course and Combat Hunter be part of BRC to give new Recon Marines a wider skillset? What are your thoughts on the Recon Sniper Course and how Recon Marines are not supposed to cover down on Sniper support for all active and reserve Infantry Battalions? Why doesn't Force Recon have a Pre-Ranger Course anymore? How does RSLC compare to BRC? Should there be a Recon Unit Leader's Course the way there is/ was a Scout/ Sniper Unit Leader's Course? Should Designated Marskman's Course be part of the Recon pipeline to increase precision marksmanship in Reconnaissance units without using as much time and money as the Recon Sniper Course? Are all Recon Marines advanced swim and scout/swimmer qualified out of BRC? Why isn't there a Small Craft Company in every Marine Division? Why isn't Recon allowed to train at MARSOC's Raider Training Center? Could it help Recon recruiting to reestablish a third Thursday of the month Recon Screener at every Recon Battalion now instead of only at 1st Force like they did in the 90's so that people don't feel like they only had two chances to go Recon (with their Recruiter or at SOI)? Should the USMC bring back the Paramarines? Why isn't there a Reserve Raider Battalion, or Raider Warrant Officers?
I can answer all or most of those questions ... the Marine Corps train of thought excluded... just too many for a post here... would be glad to speak with you or e-mail...
For anyone who watches the whole video - you will receive a bachelor's degree in chest rig science after viewing the full video uninterrupted.
Agreed!!!
This video is great. My one suggestion for ALL of the people putting loadout vids together, please show the gear ON YOUR BODY. Show us how quickly you can put it on and access your gear. There are a bunch of chest rigs and LBE gear that is so hard to put on quickly that it literally takes a buddy to snap the buckles up. Thank You
I just found your channel and I love your approach. As an infantryman I appreciate all your insight and experience . I cannot agree with you more about tailoring your rig to the 41:24 mission.
I will definitely be checking out all your content.
This is the best damn video I’ve seen on the topic, well done!!!
Also, you are one of the very, very few who have mentioned anything about carrying water, well done
the bionic arm sold me. great channel blake cheers
Informative video from a real operator. Wish I had time and money to come learn from you.
That Viktos Low Key Chest Rig is PERFECT for my ruck marches in the woods! It's not military looking and thus alarming to others I pass or who pass by me on the trail. I will definitely keep it in mind!
You don't hike off trails??? Off trail hiking is much more difficult than on the trail and you don't need to be concerned about how you look when folks pass you by
@@nck4888 No, I have not. I should.
Just found your channel, great content.
I like his chest rig set up but i really like his bionic arm.
Anyone who’s in the market for a chest rig might also want to check out the Helikon-Tex Guardian rig. Holds 8+ mags, has a spot for a radio, water, and medical. I had one and really regret giving it away.
The newer SOE stacked 8 mag is awesome. It has molle all the way around and can support all the various pouches. The full width admin that is velcro lined is awesome.
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Binge watching this channel solid knowledge transfer brother I look forward to taking a course ASAP...
I've been researching what rig might be a good setup for civilian purposes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions. Keep on doing that thing you do, we'll keep watching.
I don't know your situation but my advice for civilian use is go small chest rig, personally I went with a G-code build with three rifle mags dangler and a radio pouch, mag pouch on the belt (5 mags). I am of the opinion if we are put in the unfortunate opinion where we civilians have to fight against an enemy like N. Korea then we don't want to be doing things like a standard military for large resource groups its fine but not when your solo or very small teams. We would want to be hitting small soft targets where in most situations a single 30 round mag is enough to get the job done before we vanish large round count conflicts can take good men out of the future fight because they no longer have ammo due to previous ammo waste.
@@Ovokor Thanks for sharing, I'll check that one out.
Excellent, excellent video. This has helped me understand where I am in my build.
Could you do a video on the use of a FLC vest and when something like that would be used? Include the pros and cons, and perhaps what situation would warrant its use over say a micro rig, plate carrier, and a larger load?
The Mayflower (Velocity) Gen 4 chest rig is worth looking at.
My experience with that was terrible. The pockets are too small to hold pmags and the pistol mag pouches don't even hold Glock mags they're too small. This rig got over hyped by Lucas and lots of people (including myself) got one because of that.
@@olivedrab1 UR Tactical OPS enhanced combat chest rig is the best i've found that isn't backordered for 2 years or more.
@@olivedrab1I can fit Glock mags in mine just fine. And the rifle mags aren't a problem as I use standard issue H&K mags. I guess it depends on your specific needs and loadouts whether or not the gen IV rig suits you.
@@olivedrab1same.. I hated it. Modified TAPS for me. But the instabros and their groupies say mayflower is gods rig so everyone thinks its the only way.
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Most 'well explained,' out of tons of Chest rig videos! Thank you! Skal!
One I found that I like so far is Shaw concepts front pouch. It's like the spiritus and haley rigs but has an insert for four ar mags which most of the others don't specifically trend towards. I used to use a tasmanian tiger chest rig because it could be ran with a front plate in, but no rear plate.
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Thanks......it's good to see properly grounded info in this world of ours. I have a Haley rig myself and an old black hawk one that holds 8 mags. They are both great with a pack but I need to build out something with a little more capability in case God forbid we ever need it here in the Us. It would be nice to have something besides ultralight with a ruck or plates and a light pack as choices. I really need to bridge that gap in kit.
Tracer needs more recognition
When most guntubers do a long video, they ramble about crap. This dude, even if he rambled, which he doesn't... has amazing knowledge to transfer. Excellent video.
The most well known rambling man of YT is Nutnfancy.
@@EquipaPatriot Haha - totally!
Force recon sounds like the blend of a soldier and pack mule
Yep
Ouch. Wish I saw this before I bought the D3 micro rig and spiritus micro rig. Great video!
Great in-depth look at the options available and why or why not you would go with a certain set up.
Thanks
Nate
I have used both ALICE and Chest Rigs. Both have pros and cons in different tasks. No armor I will use my old ALICE as I can hit the ground (think hide/defense). Chest rigs on range days and turret gun. 😉😉
100% agree with what you say around the 35:20 time mark. 1000s of soldiers managed to execute tasks just fine in full body armor in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The best investment I ever did was a sewall and a old Alice belt, Iv customized and reconfigured that $20 belt so many times the next rig I bought was a complement to each other and what I was looking for not 10x catch all’s
I'll never look at the Spiritus micro the same after you holding it up like that 😅
Please heal soon. We don't want to have to call you Lefty forever.
Thick Viking lookalike presents: Chest rigs. Lets havealook
I'm thinking of going the split rig route. Better for prone and can open it up to vent heat when "safe".
Split rigs are great, and I did forget to mention them as I don't currently have any. My rig on active duty was a split rig, but I sold it as I was retiring. Should've kept it!
@@Blakewater0326 I appreciate the reply! Yeah, should've kept it. In 20 years your active duty rig could be worth millions with all these cloners. Lol
Blake Semper Fi brother! Come back to the youtube universe and give us more content. Stay dangerous!
Great video man once again
Do you want to go to war Blake? We can go to war.
Thanks for the great video!
Excellent vid for a capable Civilian like me. Body Armor has been on my get-list for long time now. You’ve convinced me and thank you for making great content!! That arm…stop using it and let it heal Son lol
Motion is lotion, so I'm using all that I can muster at all times to help heal this thing up. So long as I don't push it farther than it's capable I'll get back to full strength sooner. Thanks for looking out, and glad you're enjoying the channel!
@@Blakewater0326 Picking you last for Dodgeball tho going forward 🤣😂
Instructions unclear I drove on the wrong side of the road.....pretty sure I hit a house.
Nice! It’s a bonus if you wear a front placard on a plate carrier, the chest rig will allow you to drill mag changes without having to toss on the carrier.
One thing I learned the hard way is buying a cross strap chicom style rig without thinking about how that would fit / feel when wearing my ruck. It’s not too uncomfortable but the H style is better w a ruck. Imho
Great video! Im about to do a video on my loadout.
One problem is people dont discuss medical in these videos. Why and what they carry. Just like your rifle and rig setups change based on environment and purpose, your medical does too.
Being in the inner city and doing active shooter or CQB or whatever... is alot different than being in the woods.
Having experience in both i will be breaking that down on my channel soon
#BOOTYASSCHESTRIG .. LOL.. I literally just came across a video that linked to their Amazon page just like you described.
Awesome content, please keep it coming!
Thank you so much
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Just discovered your channel and I’m looking forward to watching your entire catalogue of videos. I have to know where did you get that awesome shirt! Cheers 🍻, take care and stay frosty ☃️🍺🫵🤟🇨🇦🫡🇺🇸🤟🫵🍺☃️
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@@Blakewater0326 thanks. I absolutely love it. I will definitely compete with my Winnie the Pew Pew shirt. 🫵🤟🇨🇦🫡🇺🇸🤟🫵
I CANT RECCE WITHOUT A CHEST RIG DAMMIT!!!!
Don't forget your short shorts.
@@slappy8941 *smiles in Rhodie plaid*
*whisper in bias SPLLIIIT RIIGGGG
Good information, thanks!
Good info with expertise to back it up!⚓️🇺🇸 Semper Fi
It suck when a water bladder burst, the water goes all down you’re back and everything is soaked and now you’re out of water.
Solid content , and good advice. Well spoken and without the obligatory sale pitch. Guy S.
Idk if in those other instances it’s so much obligatory as it is shameless plugging. Lol
I have a spiritus mk5 with the thing 1 and a pair of jsta pouches and I’m at 7 mags with a radio in the left radio pocket and a pair of mags in the right radio pocket. It’s nice because I can fit at least 5 .308 mags if I just swap inserts
I will say though after watching your other kit considerations video I’ll be getting the stout scout so I can fit even more mags and some more admin stuff along with water. I never thought about how the standard load in the military is 7 mags because they often have qrf and or air or mortar support nearby.
Are you able to show more detail on the scout pouch and 2qt canteen? I was in the Nalgene camp but you gave me reconsidering.
Recce rig is my main squeeze right now
Why dont people like using the old plastic canteens? I love those and haven't been swayed to the nalgene bottles.
Nalgene bottles are easier to clean, and ensure they're clean thanks to the clear plastic. Also because of the transparent material you can sanitize water via the sun in emergency use. They also take up a smaller profile on equipment compared to a USGI 1qt canteen.
However, if you don't like nalgene then you can continue using the USGI canteens. Easy enough.
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Thanks for the video!
I run an FLC2. :)
Thanks for sharing.
I must have that tshirt. Where did you get it?
Where o where did you go?? No vids for months?
Yea I'm not good at this social media thing. I prioritize Instagram and have been trying to put up small bits on X/ Twitter, as well as manage Patreon which I haven't done great at keeping up with. When I can get the time to get with my cinematographer we're going to film for about two days straight so I can then deliver bi-monthly content for a few months.
Eventually I'll get the rhythm down. Until then, you can find me on IG.
What GP pouch does that 2qt collapsible fit in?
Name of the ending music please.
5:32 hit me right in the feels homie.
love the video, good information. I'm familiar with the brands you are talking about, all except the 2 quart canteen pouch in multicam arid. who makes that pouch, thank you.
nevermind, I looked, its the scout pouch. I thought that it was a dedicated 2 quart pouch.
FLC gang for life!
I apreciate the content blake. Do you have some favorite hi suggar treats or carry caffine?
No to both. At most I may pack out some dried fruit, I don't like packing out candy and such. Sometimes some hard candies on long missions (week and longer) can be good pick-me-ups and are less susceptible to the elements.
Will you show how you wear all of this to ruck with please? (Ie rucksack, plate carrier and fighting load)
The best method is to build a kit yourself and train in it , not watch a video of someone else with a setup that's tailored to their needs and situations, set one up and train.
Tracer for the win!
Re: the H2O discussion in conjunction with your statements in the comments opposed to a belt kit with chest rig + pack, does the designation of canteen on your chest rig as "emergency" imply that your regular supply of water while on patrol/recce is kept in your pack? As in, stop, unload, pull it out, drink, reload, move on?
If i missed or misunderstood aomething, apologies in advance. Thanks.
Yes, the water drank comes from the pack. Bladder with hose for drinking on the move, and long halts are conducted periodically with one intention of allowing a canteen to be passed around the team (everyone drinks until the canteen is gone, so that a partial canteen isn't sloshing around in anyone's gear).
The water on the fighting load, in this case, is saved for exigent circumstances. I only ever needed it once in 17 years with Force Recon, because we were denied resupply.
Whats your opinion on Velocity Systems chest rigs?
Their stuff is well made, I just think that any rig pre-sewn is limited to the design idea of the creator and won't fit as many roles as a MOLLE/ PALS platform. However, they can be a more affordable option.
I'll be doing an update to this video in the coming months, I've got some additional rigs and I'll be setting aside the time to do it right, rather than being rushed as I was on this day.
Does the front pouch on the Tracer rig start to separate if you put too weight on the molle front?
So... Whats your take on all those tactical channels that build "recce" survival E&E chest rigs that are set up to "survive" out of.
They're missing the point. A chest rig is your fighting load. Overall equipment is a layered system of whats worn on the body (clothing, what's in your pockets, fanny pack), fighting load (chest rig, plate carrier, belt kit, whatever), assault load (24-48 hour pack, back panel, bandolier, etectera), and your sustainment load. The more you know, the less you need to carry out. So survival can be had with what you carry on the body and in the fighting load, without turning your chest rig into a laundry list of "just in case" items.
@@Blakewater0326 thank you
What is the dangler? Haley?
Who makes the multicam desert 2qt canteen pouch? TY
Search around on Google and you'll eventually find a source
Tracer Tactical
Solid overview.
Do you mind saying who makes the MC tropic GP pouches on the Parashooter rig?
I need to "cheat" a GP pouch or two onto a smaller molle space on my rig just like that, and trying to find GP's with anything other than a strap on each end and nothing on the middle has become a real b!@tch these days. lol
They're from Tracer Tactical
Do you only run metal mags vs. Pmags? If so, is it because of seating issues in the mag well?
I run various mags. The rig is full of old GI mags because of how many I acquired during my career, so they find their way to places. I prefer them in many cases because they can fit into mag holders with the follower up, which is how I re-index empty mags into my equipment.
Ever worn the belt, chest rig, and pack?
yep. didn't like it: lots of kit to take off and manage when changing out layers; items either sat wrong with the pack if on the back of the belt, interfered with mobility if on the front of the belt, or just made me too wide if on the sides of the belt as well as interfering with pocket access.
It can be done, to be certain. However, it is quite feasible and objectively more efficient to have your fighting load on one platform. Even with the plate carrier I will drop the gun belt if I don't need it and just run plates.
@@Blakewater0326 If you have to do long treks would you strap the belt on the pack?
@@tonyslaughter8954 If a belt is needed to round out my fighting load, then I will set up the belt to work with the ruck. Otherwise, it wouldn't make much sense to have the belt.
@@Blakewater0326 I was looking at running a chest rig, battle belt, and an eberlestock for a get-out-of-dodge bag. Is that workable if you clear the back of the belt?
@@tonyslaughter8954 workable, yes. I would recommend using a chest rig platform that will support the items you need, and perhaps analyzing again what you intend to carry on the fighting load level of equipment and what can go into the pack.
Nice robotic arm
i just bought the recce rig from onward research, i have a general purpose pouch and a ifak on it, im planning to add a general porpose dangler and side expanders so i can add a placard underneith the rig and keep a nalgine on me, eve though i like camelpacks
im also working on a load bearing belt setup that could attach to the chest rig, like a sudo lbv88
@wojakentertainment657 interesting, I've never used the lbv88 have you? One thing I've been toying with is a woodland FLC over a slick plate carrier. The woodland flc I'm assuming is the earliest variant as it's buckles only. Just tooling at the range I like it works as a split chest rig. When used over the carrier I have a lot more real estate than the carrier itself.
@@Platos_Rave i have used both the lbv88 and the flc. personally, i love the lbv and hate the flc. I really like the belt system and angled mag pouches, the lbv is ao very quick to change size and compfort, though, like the flc, the waste is the hardest thing to adjust. I found the mesh on the flc to be far worse for hot emviorments, and provided less camoflauge. I also liked how the lbv hugs the body and can be tightened with the corset system to be very comfortabke
The mission dictates gear gent's! Micro rigs are great for close in actions (CQB) or standing a post with a low risk of contact. Larger rigs are far better choices for patrolling or moving to contact. Ammo, water, ifak, knife. Anything else is your choice.
Bruh, apostrophes don't make words plural.
@@slappy8941Add something or keep it to yourself.
You are so smart say something else cool
Did you have a distal biceps reattachment surgery?
yep, about 2 weeks prior to filming this.
@@Blakewater0326hope recovery goes well, boss. I had that same year in Nov 2022. Bands are your friend and don’t skimp on the post op therapy to regain supination.
Thanks... Semper Fi GB
Beautiful video. Now i watch it
Had to rewind to make sure i heard correctly that guys in Ukraine were using zipties to attach their tourniquets.
Just Holy shit that is terminal stupidity.
Equipment carried is based on the mission requirements. I suppose playing ninja requires military style equipment, but I cannot think of a single reason why a civilian needs a full plate carrier. The mini (Micro) rigs should be more than sufficient, with the exception of the lower dangler pouch to carry first aid items (or other equipment). You won't need more than 2 or 3 mags in the civilian environment (unless you live in California). Even in worse case civilian SHTF situation, you shouldn't be far from your support (home, vehicle, etc.). Don't waste your money on all these toys. You won't be doing a patrol. You won't be doing a recce. Be real, train real, and equip appropriately.
Can't think of a single reason why a civilian needs plates... really, not a single one? 🤔😏
Bro there are people oit there that would pay you stupid money for that og soe rig.
with a belt kit you wear a short back ruck like a berghaus or an assault pack. also you shouldn't be putting anything other than layers or a sleep system in your buttpack, IE things that require you to take your gear off to be used. all of your equipment, ammo, admin, etc. should be on the sides of your belt kit. on my kit the only stuff in my buttpack is gridfleece, change of clothes, goretex, and a woobie. everything else i can access myself on the sides.
Breaking contact without smoke is not a good idea.
no it isn't, though still the TTPs and SOPs behind your method are far more important. The smoke is a multiplier and if I can get my hands on some proper smokes I'll do a video on that as well.
I like your shirt.
Hey Blake what are cons with TAPS. Have u fcked wid it
The harness is the worst part.
I think spiritus makes a taps upgrade kit, fixes the harness issues
@@Platos_Ravebut then you are paying way more to fix a kit that kinda sucks to begin with.
For one, I think it promotes a false idea that infantry guys should strip down to load bearing gear to conduct a reconnaissance task. Recon isn't about equipment, and the form of recon an infantryman undergoes is not the same as a trained and dedicated recon troop, who makes the decision to wear a rig over a plate carrier very deliberately.
I also think its silly to strap a chest rig to your plate carrier when it is far simpler and smarter to mount pouches and placards to the chest rig directly. Honestly, I think I did a mediocre job with this video and it will require revisiting to cover more of these finer aspects.
You see, I have to disagree with you regarding one thing. That is, the size of the chest rig. In my limited experience the size of the chest rig matters a lot when carrying a large rucksack on your back. Specifically, the shoulder straps of the rucksack will be an interference with the side pouches on a large chest rig. But if you have a mini (larger than a micro) chest rig, one that can carry 4 magazines, a dangler, attached water pouch, and a general utilities pouch, for example, then it will sit better and not be an interference with the rucksack shoulder straps. This is why I have two chest rigs; one mini and one large.
Right? Right, right right? Right…. Right right right? One thing all these guys have in common: saying right at the end of every sentence
I know, right?
@@Blakewater0326 You good brother? haven't uploaded in 6 months!
@@popefrancis9756 yea I know. Been active on Instagram and slightly on Twitter/ X. My cinematographer has been busy, but I may just start uploading cell phone videos again.
@@Blakewater0326 hell yeah, you can always do youtube shorts from your phone as well!
Thoughts on Split rigs and their place ?
Split rigs are great, I did forget to mention them as I did not have any examples to show.