I’ll forever stand by that B58 engine, I loved my manual M140i more than my M3 / M4 comp. That’s all you need is a little suspension set up, LSD and it’s the ultimate daily driver. Great to see the channel doing so well boys! I really mean that 🤜🏼
@peakypanda I think you're right, I don't any manufacturers producing a 3 litre 6 cylinder turbo hatchback in the future 😔 Thank you for watching! - Drew
I had an M140i for 4 years, it was a great daily, and fast in a straight line (mine was 455bhp/634nm). The 'trouble' with them, is that I fear they will end up like the Impreza Sti's did, ie just depreciate to a point every chav on every council estate has one, modified to the max, and written off. So while standard cars will be worth good money in 15 years or so (as Impreza's are starting to be now), unfortunately standard ones will be so rare, and modified thrashed examples will still be worthless. I went to a slightly older car, and got an OG M2. It is standard, so not as fast in a straight line as my old tuned M140i, but would leave my old car as a tiny speck in it's mirror on a twisty b road, and that sort of driving is where I think the real fun happens. Anyone can mash a throttle in a straight line, but no matter how much power your engine makes, straight line acceleration quickly gets boring, and the real joy is in twisty, flowing, undulating corners. And that is something the M140ui doesn't do very well, no matter how many mods you do to it, because the chassis is still always going to be the same as any other 1 series of the same era.
@gavmorris3191 completely agree dude, I see the appeal of having a 6 cylinder turbo hatchback (I can't see any other manufacturer doing that again anytime soon) I just wish they put a bit more into the handling lol - Drew
I've had mine for 3 years and I'm still smiling. My first mods was sorting out the handling and that included MP LSD but it was overpriced, harder to maintain, the clutches wore out in a year so I had to rebuild it, all I really gained was a little bit more grip coming out of a corner sliding coming out of an exit and some doughnuts and when I put my foot down in a straight line the car feels slower. Reinstalled my open diff and I actually prefer it.
@Yhyujss now that's interesting! First of all, that LSD experience sounds expensive! Second of all, I appreciate the feedback, it's interesting to hear from someone who has genuinely experienced one with an open diff & LSD. The open diff was certainly fun! Thank you for watching! - Drew
Interesting point of view, first time I've heard someone say that they didn't enjoy the M Perf LSD. I see where you are coming from in a sense of real world use. My manual m140i is currently completely stock, and I wouldn't say it drives badly at all coming from an OG M2 prior to this, you can still get a slide on exiting a corner in the dry, and for the UK roads you have to be pushing it very hard before you even start to notice that it's less capable than it's full fat M counterparts. I do still plan on installng an LSD in my 140i as I want to turn it into a weekend car/ track tool for the summer. I have a set of Bistein B16's and upgraded brake components in the shed ready to go. But now i've read about your experience I'm steering towards wavetrac rather than the M perf.
@ like you said you only gonna feel it right at the top end when you really pushing it The problem is that it still feels detached it doesn’t feel planted the front end starts to feel light. For me putting a LSD in the car was a waste of money because the car from factory is a 118i All of its suspensions parts are connected by bushings to the subframe And chassis unlike a m car Where the parts are bolted directly to the chassis. I’ve spent thousands on mine on the suspension to the LSD and various other handling mods i’ll tell you the truth I regret it. But It’s good for what it is value for money and a great daily. My next car i think is going to be a rs3 or m2.
@@YhyujssI see your point, thanks for sharing. It’s easy to get carried away trying to make the car something that it simply isn’t. I’m starting with a fresh slate the car only cost me 13 grand, so I think my best bet is to upgrade a few bits which improve the cars pitfalls, without getting into a hole of trying to make it a race car
@@SnowboardingSam you see a lot of TH-cam videos doing exactly that tuning the cars and rebuilding it to 800 and 900 hp and then it’s undrivable it just becomes a hot rod yeah just maybe a little remap stage 1 and some handling mods and it’s fantastic little thing for what it is.
Definitely get a lot of car for your money and the smile on your face when you’re both driving it shows it’s also got plenty of smiles per gallon too I think the look great too but do have a real soft spot for the 2 series myself
Theyre great! Once you replace the diff for the LSD and replace the shocks+bushes you have yourself a well platformed car! Mines at 470+ and perfectly good fun with zero issues thanks to being a mega reliable car
@accelerateyoutube haven't driven one yet Drew, if I get one I want a 2018 or 2019 plate with low mileage, their not cheap though but a lot of car for your money and as you said so tunable 👌🏼
Being a bit behind but noticed that u guys did some pulls with cars gearbox in normal mode and same when launching the car. That is why the launch control did not turn on. Due to the gearbox being in normal setting the pulls and shifts will be slower.
The normal version 120d xdrive feels so good on the road and it has good handling. I've never been in 140i or the M series to see how better they handle on the road
@@alexbakermault4518 ....that is a tough choice. The straight 6 turbo is fantastic, but I would have to go with the Leon. That car really blew us away! Very good question & thank you for watching! - Drew
@@neil5242the 140i would smoke a cupra in reverse, I got stage 2+ with high pressure fuel pump just under 500bhp and XHP3 gearbox map the thing goes like a slingshot
Exciting! But not the quickest thing I'd think! most of the extra power is just there to rub the back wheels bald. Has Rocky got an lsd on his shopping list?
@mikerichards9196 we completely agree my friend! Alot of people I know of, buy these cars for their straight line speed (which is fantastic!) But I am with you; I would like to have more confidence going into corners because that's where the fun is! An LSD is certainly on the shopping list, along with some fresh tyres 👌 Thank you watching & commenting! - Drew
It's just a 118d with a big engine. The engine is the party piece, nothing more. Mine was stage 2, couldn't put the power down half the time, used to kick out and try and spit you off the road even in dry conditions due to the lack of LSD.
@@Shutyamouthbruv yes indeed when its damp on the road its stil sketchy at some times 🤣 even dry whit my e70 map 100-200 it wil lose traction 🤣 4.9 is best so far was whit almost bold tires so i bought a new set of sportcontact 7 traction should not be an issue anymore
Such a shame their prices are still so high and insurance keeps increasing. Some cost as much as they were 4 years ago with less miles. Can’t justify it
Cost to buy isn't so much an issue I don't think it's insurance that's stupid. It's similar or only slightly more for an RS3 which on paper and in the real world is probably a class above the m140i in performance
@ for me it isn’t so bad even with an accident last year but 4 years ago when I wanted one, I could’ve got a fairly low mileage shadow edition for about 18k. They are still about that now or well over if well specced, 4 years on
@accelerateyoutube yeh. Sports plus mode. Gearbox is s foot down on break. Plant accelerator and it will show a flag and launch control on dash. It will hold it at about 3500rpm. Let go of the break and away you go
I’ll forever stand by that B58 engine, I loved my manual M140i more than my M3 / M4 comp. That’s all you need is a little suspension set up, LSD and it’s the ultimate daily driver.
Great to see the channel doing so well boys! I really mean that 🤜🏼
Future classic for sure. What a recipe. 3ltr turbo rwd hatch..beast
@peakypanda I think you're right, I don't any manufacturers producing a 3 litre 6 cylinder turbo hatchback in the future 😔
Thank you for watching!
- Drew
Only the manuals will make you money unless you get a stupidly low mileage auto
I had an M140i for 4 years, it was a great daily, and fast in a straight line (mine was 455bhp/634nm).
The 'trouble' with them, is that I fear they will end up like the Impreza Sti's did, ie just depreciate to a point every chav on every council estate has one, modified to the max, and written off.
So while standard cars will be worth good money in 15 years or so (as Impreza's are starting to be now), unfortunately standard ones will be so rare, and modified thrashed examples will still be worthless.
I went to a slightly older car, and got an OG M2. It is standard, so not as fast in a straight line as my old tuned M140i, but would leave my old car as a tiny speck in it's mirror on a twisty b road, and that sort of driving is where I think the real fun happens.
Anyone can mash a throttle in a straight line, but no matter how much power your engine makes, straight line acceleration quickly gets boring, and the real joy is in twisty, flowing, undulating corners. And that is something the M140ui doesn't do very well, no matter how many mods you do to it, because the chassis is still always going to be the same as any other 1 series of the same era.
@@DjNikGnashersthat’s already happened. And half of them on the road are write offs
@@OrangeTash Yes, it's a shame, but standard well looked after ones, will be worth big money in 20 years for sure.
Can definitely see why people get them so much power in a small car. And very cool to have a rwd hatchback
@gavmorris3191 completely agree dude, I see the appeal of having a 6 cylinder turbo hatchback (I can't see any other manufacturer doing that again anytime soon)
I just wish they put a bit more into the handling lol
- Drew
I've had mine for 3 years and I'm still smiling. My first mods was sorting out the handling and that included MP LSD but it was overpriced, harder to maintain, the clutches wore out in a year so I had to rebuild it, all I really gained was a little bit more grip coming out of a corner sliding coming out of an exit and some doughnuts and when I put my foot down in a straight line the car feels slower. Reinstalled my open diff and I actually prefer it.
@Yhyujss now that's interesting!
First of all, that LSD experience sounds expensive!
Second of all, I appreciate the feedback, it's interesting to hear from someone who has genuinely experienced one with an open diff & LSD.
The open diff was certainly fun!
Thank you for watching!
- Drew
Interesting point of view, first time I've heard someone say that they didn't enjoy the M Perf LSD. I see where you are coming from in a sense of real world use. My manual m140i is currently completely stock, and I wouldn't say it drives badly at all coming from an OG M2 prior to this, you can still get a slide on exiting a corner in the dry, and for the UK roads you have to be pushing it very hard before you even start to notice that it's less capable than it's full fat M counterparts.
I do still plan on installng an LSD in my 140i as I want to turn it into a weekend car/ track tool for the summer. I have a set of Bistein B16's and upgraded brake components in the shed ready to go. But now i've read about your experience I'm steering towards wavetrac rather than the M perf.
@ like you said you only gonna feel it right at the top end when you really pushing it The problem is that it still feels detached it doesn’t feel planted the front end starts to feel light. For me putting a LSD in the car was a waste of money because the car from factory is a 118i All of its suspensions parts are connected by bushings to the subframe And chassis unlike a m car Where the parts are bolted directly to the chassis. I’ve spent thousands on mine on the suspension to the LSD and various other handling mods i’ll tell you the truth I regret it. But It’s good for what it is value for money and a great daily. My next car i think is going to be a rs3 or m2.
@@YhyujssI see your point, thanks for sharing. It’s easy to get carried away trying to make the car something that it simply isn’t. I’m starting with a fresh slate the car only cost me 13 grand, so I think my best bet is to upgrade a few bits which improve the cars pitfalls, without getting into a hole of trying to make it a race car
@@SnowboardingSam you see a lot of TH-cam videos doing exactly that tuning the cars and rebuilding it to 800 and 900 hp and then it’s undrivable it just becomes a hot rod yeah just maybe a little remap stage 1 and some handling mods and it’s fantastic little thing for what it is.
Love my m140i, had for 4yrs now 720hp. Beast!!!🚗💨💨💨
Definitely get a lot of car for your money and the smile on your face when you’re both driving it shows it’s also got plenty of smiles per gallon too
I think the look great too but do have a real soft spot for the 2 series myself
@seanoddy8341 yes! I would take a 2 series personally too man.
I went into this almost not wanting to like it, but the performance is nuts!
- Drew
The M140i will be my next car 😈 when I find the right one, brilliant video Lads as always 👌🏼
@TwistedTattoo.WarShorts I did wonder what you're opinion was on them dude.
Have you driven one??
Thanks man, appreciate the support as always!
- Drew
Theyre great! Once you replace the diff for the LSD and replace the shocks+bushes you have yourself a well platformed car! Mines at 470+ and perfectly good fun with zero issues thanks to being a mega reliable car
@accelerateyoutube haven't driven one yet Drew, if I get one I want a 2018 or 2019 plate with low mileage, their not cheap though but a lot of car for your money and as you said so tunable 👌🏼
@evoking12345 the B58 is a awesome engine mate 👍
Not a massive fan of the M140i but I can appreciate the power that it gives! Thank you Drew for being so informative, great video as always😃
@@Georgia_Roberts you are more than welcome!
- Drew
Being a bit behind but noticed that u guys did some pulls with cars gearbox in normal mode and same when launching the car. That is why the launch control did not turn on. Due to the gearbox being in normal setting the pulls and shifts will be slower.
The normal version 120d xdrive feels so good on the road and it has good handling. I've never been in 140i or the M series to see how better they handle on the road
My only criticism, please dump the back -ground music.
@David-i4r1i we've done some research & tried a few videos without music and it just didn't seem right lol
Thank you for the feedback
- Drew
I love mine. Gets good MPG’s in n the motorway and not bad in the city. I live in a hilly city so get 30-35ish. It’s worth it.
Great vid guys!
@benblm82 thank you dude! 🙏
- Drew
Did he remove the mileage blocker for this video?
A lot of power and fun for the money
@@Birmingham_racing 100%! It's ridiculous how quick these things are for the price!
- Drew
Belle vidéo 👌 😉. Super 👌. Et belle BMW. 🏴 🇫🇷.
@@alaindunkerque59 merci! We do love a BMW!
- Drew 🇨🇵 🏴
Oui j'en ai eu une aussi. Une BMW compact E36 équipé Hartge. 👍👍👍👍👍
Love the accent, bytt.
@@David-i4r1i 😂 I'm surprised the rest of the world can understand us!
- Drew
Awesome car. Now which would you guys choose, this or the Cupra ST you reviewed? Difficult choice.
@@alexbakermault4518 ....that is a tough choice. The straight 6 turbo is fantastic, but I would have to go with the Leon. That car really blew us away!
Very good question & thank you for watching!
- Drew
You'd have to be mad to take a Cupra over this.
@@neil5242the 140i would smoke a cupra in reverse, I got stage 2+ with high pressure fuel pump just under 500bhp and XHP3 gearbox map the thing goes like a slingshot
Exciting! But not the quickest thing I'd think! most of the extra power is just there to rub the back wheels bald. Has Rocky got an lsd on his shopping list?
Not meaning to sound negative there, but with all those fine twisty roads you have around you, I think handling is just as important as straight line
@mikerichards9196 we completely agree my friend!
Alot of people I know of, buy these cars for their straight line speed (which is fantastic!) But I am with you; I would like to have more confidence going into corners because that's where the fun is!
An LSD is certainly on the shopping list, along with some fresh tyres 👌
Thank you watching & commenting!
- Drew
5 years with my m140 xDrive 💪
is xdrive still playfull in the rear?
I think is the best hot hacht ever in sensation's especially in manual gearbox 3 doo; mechanical lsd on the rear and m2 arms in the front!
Interesting tyre selection on this one 🤔
Wicked!!!! I would love a go in one.
My friend has 1 (stage2)and the instant power is bonkers
ZM was a hatch back long befor the 1 series
Z3M? I see what you mean but that was billed as a coupe rather than a hatchback.
It's just a 118d with a big engine. The engine is the party piece, nothing more. Mine was stage 2, couldn't put the power down half the time, used to kick out and try and spit you off the road even in dry conditions due to the lack of LSD.
you should always get a lsd so it doesnt spit you off the road in dry conditions
If you done handling mods rather then mapping would be different
I got a xdrive version makes it so much better stil very playfull but so much more control running a hybride at 570 ish hp
@@havefun1226 Bet it's a beast! Think they're 60/40 differential bias to the rear wheels are they so still can kick the back.
@@Shutyamouthbruv yes indeed when its damp on the road its stil sketchy at some times 🤣 even dry whit my e70 map 100-200 it wil lose traction 🤣 4.9 is best so far was whit almost bold tires so i bought a new set of sportcontact 7 traction should not be an issue anymore
Such a shame their prices are still so high and insurance keeps increasing. Some cost as much as they were 4 years ago with less miles. Can’t justify it
Cost to buy isn't so much an issue I don't think it's insurance that's stupid. It's similar or only slightly more for an RS3 which on paper and in the real world is probably a class above the m140i in performance
@ for me it isn’t so bad even with an accident last year but 4 years ago when I wanted one, I could’ve got a fairly low mileage shadow edition for about 18k. They are still about that now or well over if well specced, 4 years on
Great machine but keep ya open diff boys lsd is a must on these
You should have used the proper lauch control rather than launching it from like 1500rpm
@@thomasblount4796 is there an actual launch control?
Do you know how to activate it?
- Drew
@accelerateyoutube yeh. Sports plus mode. Gearbox is s foot down on break. Plant accelerator and it will show a flag and launch control on dash. It will hold it at about 3500rpm. Let go of the break and away you go
@@thomasblount4796 ah gutting, I wish I knew that before filming lol
Thank you for the info.
- Drew
Cost from stock to stage 2+??
maybe around a grand / £1500 if you sell/exchange your old cat.
The m140i is like a motorcycle club prospect, does all the chores but is never a fully badged member.
You write this comment everywhere, you plant pot😂
1.1 mpg on the pulls 😂
Quick they maybe but they'll never be E36 or E46 pretty.
They’re quicker 💀
😂
They are fast asleep standard and tune well but handle like a pig on valium.
@Tagomago12 😂 yes, the handling certainly isn't its party piece lol
- Drew
They handle as well you the driver's competency.
I wouldn’t remap mine. That’s for boys, not men.
A car for boys still living at home with their parents to get into debt over. BMW have lost their class, which is why I won't buy another one.
It's fast, cheap, has a premium badge, looks mid, and drives awfully.
Ugly as sin tho!
Save up longer and buy M2
Don't buy one then you helmet 😂