Was Digitech Just Discontinued?
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The whammy is an absolute classic iconic effect pedal that should never ever be discontinued
Digitech has been a ghost brand for several years now with no actual employees and auto scheduled production runs just approved by some middle manager at Harmon. The DSP staff from the US office were hired by Yamaha/Line 6 after the layoffs. Tom Cram owns his own pedal brand - Spiral Electric.
@@NotaBInMyH I'm sure Tom has an NDA and isn't really interested in rehashing a layoff story with internet randos. I sincerely doubt consideration was even given to Digitech's products or market share and I would be very surprised if anyone at Samsung involved in the acquisition even knows what Digitech makes. Samsung wanted Harman for their IP in the car audio market. Everything else is just a drag on the bottom line.
@@twittbaltimore "Everything else is just a drag on the bottom line" is untrue. Harman continues to make a profit year over year. Harman is a wholly owned subsidiary.
@@derrickcooper2030 The "everything else" in that sentence is Digitech and DOD which did not make enough profit to justify keeping staff.
Also, like 9 day old comment on a video which was pointless because distributors are still getting shipments of product.
The Drop was one of the most important pedals I ever bought. I still use it regularly after like 5/6 years.
Watching this, all i can think of is Tom Morello frantically driving from store to store in a complete panic trying to buy every remaining Whammy.
😈 ☯️
As he complains about capitalism.
@@rishpanjeet7479 yet you couldnt go to his concert without the jab= full complinace
These comments are Priceless!!😂
No, if you watch his videos, he uses the SAME whammy for over all years
I remember when Digitech had like 100 different pedals and multi effects processors for sale, now they are reduced only to drop pedals and pitch shifters. I and my guitar player bought so many digitech stuff back then I still use my bass compressor and bass chorus to this day
I have the rp70 and its seen only 2 shows. One was opening for rest repose in 2018 it was so broke at that time I just kept it as a noise gate that barely worked lmao.
@@djsusan00 I also had rp70 when I started playing, gotta get new one to test because I have learnt to play and use guitar, I also couldn't talk english back then (i'm finnish) so I had no idea what I was doing with it so I just scrolled the presets. Could bw a journey :D
@@zekkari27 Im pretty sure stock preset 7 had whammy in it and I loved it lmao
That is sad. I purchased a brand new DigiTech RP 1 Multi-Effects pedal in 92(I believe), and still use them today in 2022. An absolute workhorse of a pedal, very solid, and went on the road and in studio with them. Was going to trade them in a few years back and was only offered $35. Sooooo glad I kept them.
same
Yeah, unfortunately as others have mentioned, this is a years old story that went down with the Samsung acquisition. The Digitech design team was given an unceremonious boot to the curb. Tom Cram was the driving force behind many of those great pedals and now has his own company, Spiral Electric FX.
Their Grunge pedal has been my main OD for over a decade and I recently added their Bad Monkey tube screamer as a boost,.... absolute game changer. And yeah, I have their Dropbox too ;)
I love my DigiTech Trio+ Band Creator. I have shifted to using Ableton Live for doing live looping but that's a rather large setup with a laptop, interface, novation launchpad (at minimum). Way too much to bring to an open mic night. The DigiTech Trio+ Band creator on the other hand is a single pedal that gives you drums and bass "for free".
I was just thinking the other day if I were ever to break or lose that thing I'd really want another one.
I don't think you could cobble together anything like it with Ableton and various plugins. I think EZ Bass and EZ Drummer can give you drums and bass "for free" but you have to program in the chord changes whereas the DigiTech actually listens to you play and it's a more seamless experience for live looping.
It was sold to Cort after Samsung acquiring Harmon. Cort worked months in the background to bring the DOD/Digitech products back on
So glad I managed to get a Drop pedal a couple of years ago when they were "normal money" and freely available. It was a game changer for easy tuning changes at the click of a button. Still love it !!!
Same, I got mine in 2020 and I’m glad I did when I did.
I got one at a pawn shop in the discount bin for $15 with no power supply., I've never even used except to see if it worked (it did) and it has sat on my pedal collection shelf ever since.
@@5yearsout unreal. That's the bargain of the century.
Digitech was shut down and everyone at DOD was fired a few years ago
Cort recently just purchased the brand with plans to relaunch it
Spiral Electric Effects is the spiritual successor to DOD/Digitech
Well I was just about to sell my Whammy DT... guess I'll hold onto it for a bit lol
Yea absolutely hold that man, at least for now lol
Electro harmonix makes a similar pedal.
The 'IP' will get sold to Chibson PLC d0_ob
Shame if they are discontinued. I had a Nautila that sounded stellar, and have been thinking about adding a Polara and Obscura at various times because they sometimes pop up at very good prices. I still have a Carcosa and just remembered that I used to have a Trio at one point too. They had lots of worthwhile stuff, always wanted to add one of the DOD250 reissues too...
Finding a Drop pedal here in Canada can be difficult enough. I was holding off to find a decent used one(I literally live in the middle of buttf*!% nowhere. Seriously, closest Wal-Mart is a 16 hour drive from here), but decided to pull the trigger on a new one yesterday. Funny how these things work sometimes.
I ordered mine through L&M a few years ago
Got mine from Amazon two years ago, watching for a price drop. Got it for like 175 CAD, no taxes, which I think was a pretty good deal.
Youre in the woods.. 16 hour drive I can go across my entire province
man 16h drive to go shopping is wild, i mean i'm in central EU and in 16h i can drive to southern Spain or to Russia.
Im in 🇨🇦 too and if you get a chance check out Pawn stores! In my local area those stores seem to Always have Pitch Shifters or something by Digitech! 🤘👽👽👽
I hope for some new "Drop" esque pedal in the future, whether it's under the Digitech name or someone else, and they add a MIDI port to it. That way you can just call up a variety of different tunings from an external controller/switcher rather than have to manually twist the knob or have multiple Drops.
my first two multieffects units were the RP50 and RP255, the brand wasn't the best but it definitley helped a young guitarist like myself get started with tone building and shaping. It was a bit sad buying a Drop pedal and a used chorus pedal and finding out the company was barely pulling through. Hoping they have a comeback. I think Mooer would be a good company that could buy their name. Mooer has been knocking it out of the part with some of their line in the past few years.
Harmon pretty much abandoned DOD / Digitech for their pro audio stuff. If a company were to Reissue all the best DOD pedals from the 80s 90s and they would sell like hotcakes. Big corporations suck the big one.
I can't wait for the next Ridiculous Reverb Listings video where every Whammy and Drop are 5x the retail price and every post says "DISCONTINUED".
It's so sad cause Digitech had been consistently making cool stuff. The Digitech Polara is never leaving my board.
The good news is that I’m sure a lot of the people working on these petals went to work somewhere else, and they are making cool stuff there. Like I’m pretty sure a lot of Digitech people are at line 6 now?
I love mine two but I’m looking to replace it with a specular Tempus for the ambient stuff in addition to a UA golden reverb for the more classic reverbs
A chunk of the drop/whammy team went to L6 like three years ago.
Maybe that could help explain why Line 6 has improved over the recent years.
The Polara is a great pedal! It was the best bang for the buck as far as small form reverb pedals.
Just here to sing the praises of the Polara. Crazy hard to read lettering on the pedal, but had some incredible reverse reverb.
I really hope Digitech/ the IP has been sold off to a manufacturer more focused on pedals.
Or, now that the news is out that it may have been shut down, that a manufacturer makes a bid for the IP.
Whatever happens, I'm really glad I bit the bullet last year and grabbed a Drop for whatever the asking price was.
That pedal seemed by far the best for what I wanted it to do - take my DropD guitar and get it to DropC or a touch lower with no messing about.
Plus the standard guitar and put it in Eflat for some EVH riffs.
Line 6 has the DSP guys....thats how the pitch shifting stuff got added in the latest firmwares
As a precaution I did an order on a Whammy V from SW yesterday. This AM was talking to my sales guy and he mentioned that Digitech isn't owned by Harmon anymore. I think he said they were own by C&C, but maybe I heard that wrong (was car audio) and he said Samsung. He said that they haven't been given any guidance about Digitech no longer being available. And the Whammy I ordered yesterday should be in around that first week of May.
I hope the best for Digitech, their pedals have been a mainstay on my pedal board, my Jam Man's and Trio+ have been wonderful companions during my shoe gazing sessions.
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I understand if you laugh at me but I have tried a few playlists online but keep coming backk to the two albums from Greet Death (Dixie land and New Hell)!
I played those two albums so damn much especially since my one and a half year old Son is used to falling asleep listening to those two albums!
I am mostly playing classic Rock and Metal mainly Death and Doom but love the ambient melodies and vibes Shoegaze has to offer with vocals that appeal to most of our picky Society pop loving crazed population.
Lastly I wouldn’t feel right unless I at least asked if you have songs on sound cloud or videos posted here on youtube, perhaps you could title or provide links in a kind response?
Joyous Blessings of balanced Positivity to you and your Loved ones!!! ☯️
First pedal I ever bought was a Jamman Stereo looper. Still have it and love it. More recently bought a Trio+ which is a lot of fun.
@@morrisgentry8624 The Trio+ is a great pedal,
I use it next to a JamMan Solo XT for extra layering.
My favorite digitech pedals:
-Polara
-Nautila
- sc-2 valve distortion
Being sold off would likely be good for the brand. Aside from their whammy and drop pedals, they haven't really done much worthwhile in several years that I can remember. Here's hoping they come back stronger.
The FreQout and cab driver VR pedals are great too.
All the dod stuff they were doing was amazing.
Around 2012 - 2016 or so they were putting out a lot of cool stuff. The reason they stopped is cause everybody was let go.
@Bloom Tik Bloom I like mine, it's definitely one of the better reverbs. It's got some competition these days though, from Boss, EHX, and any of the countless premium brands with large, feature packed verbs. The polara essentially belongs to their hardwire reverb series, alongside the RV7 and supernatural. Some (many) of the algorithms are even shared between the pedals. Considering the age on some of those algos, they definitely were ahead of the curve, and I'd agree it's underrated.
Untrue they have great other products but there is so many companies these days that make a reverb pedal or whatever that you probably just did not realize it
Been wondering that myself. Whammy 5a are impossible to find and the prices are skyrocketing across the line
I had the GNX 3000 FX workstation pedal, OMG that was a goat the settings, sound, versatility was incredible, sad to see such a amazing brand go to the dust. Deserved at least a parade and a good quality send off at least
Any recomendations for similar pedals now ? all suggestions welcome the landscape has changed alot
I remember one of the Line 6 guys mentioned they'd hired a huge chunk of the whammy team to do the pitch stuff for the helix a good while back, when they were unceremoniously dumped by digitech
I hate line 6 now
@@corporalclegg5057 and why is that?
Digitech 2120 and Alesis Quadraverb were both game changing for touring acts in the 90s.
It would be great if they had been acquired by a company willing to actually produce pedals! Especially if they were to reissue some of the classics. I recently bought a second Bass Synth Wah because those things are some of the most fun a human can have :)
how can you handle the tone sucking?
@@8Junio76 I split my signal and have one synth wah going on the clean/low-end channel for the octave down and sometimes some filter sweep, the other channel has highs/other effects and that's where the auto-wah and more distorted synthiness goes.
I still use a Digitech Metal Master as part of my rig. I have the settings turned down, using it as sort of a slight gain boost. Not my favorite pedal, but it does the job and its reliable.
Digitech RP500 remains my perfect multi-effect unit . I got a Zoom G6 thinking I'm upgrading. I'm glad I didn't sell the RP unit.
You hear about the recent Fender/Gretsch scandal?? The G2220 bass was listed as having dual humbuckers, but LowEndLobster found out that they've been putting single coils in the models.
They are a good brand. Innovative. Whammy, band trio, Sdrum, Drop, Expression Factory, Space Station, artist signature pedals...
Even if some were not successful, they had good ideas
Always wanted a Drop, but got one of the Freqout pedals a year or two ago and it's really been great having instant feedback when wanted. Hopefully someone bought them.
In the 60's and 70's, for guitar effects you had some super classic pedals. Then in the 80's you saw things move from pedals to rack gear. THAT's where Digitech really got its start. The pedals used the DOD branding and the rack gear was branded using the Digitech name. My first multi-effects device was the Digitech DSP-21 Pro! In all its shitty 16-bit "greatness".
I just received a Whammy DT in the past 2 weeks that I had order from Sweetwater back in November. It did get pushed back a few times. It replaced my drop pedal on my pedalboard and added the whammy to my arsenal of sounds. The drop pedal has been the most used pedal on my board since I bought it several years ago.
I had a digitech Gsp1101 years ago. It was amazing, one of the best modelling preamps I've ever owned.
My first multi effects pedal was the RP 90 then upgraded to the 500. I changed the way I played... didn't sound super amazing but definitely paved the way for ideas and creative thoughts
The digitech death metal pedal was the first pedal I ever bought. I bought the drop pedal a year or so ago after watching your video on it. That pedal changed my life.
Digitech synth wah was my first pedal. Sold it last year after over a decade of it as my secret weapon. I'll be the first to admit there are better versions of the effects inside, but it was unique.
I love my JamMan Stereo Looper, and use it almost every day.
Sweet shirt! Fazio Electric is a great channel/repair shop.
Digitech fired their design team (Tom Cram/Spiral FX) after the acquisition. It was kinda implied at the time, guitar effects were taking a back seat or being slowly shelved. What a shame... Digitech & DOD (Utah) were rad AF.
*TIMEBENDER* is a GOAT delay, everyone sleeps on.
Acquisition? What happened? Or what can I look up, to find more details?
Timebender is a monster and I'm glad I grabbed it marked down years ago 🎃
I grab a Digitech's Whammy DT from Amazon a few months ago. It's one of the most useful pedals I ever have.
I just ordered a few of these recently from Sweetwater
Awesome Fazio Electric shirt! Much love for our vintage amp techs!
I hope Digitech/DOD returns. They are one of the big guys with Boss, MXR, TC and EHX. They have made some insane pedals.
Did another company buy Digitec, perhaps? Harmon has bought and sold a bunch of brands in the last 5-10 years. They tend to remove info and stay quiet until things get finalized. I suspect they got sold off.
I have the Drop and the FrequOut. I met the people who developed them through cleaning their office. It was a two man operation under Harman. Pity they're done, as these pedals are good.
I got word from someone working at one of the Harman factories in México (not the Digitech one) that Digitech got in fact discontinued.
The drop saved me a lot in guitars for multiple tunings 🤣🤣
I have a lot of the Digitech range which are all killer, but I've struggled for months to get the Freqout, but managed to get it from Thomman in Germany. All UK stores saying out of stock and order for around September
The Digitech Freqout is the only pedal that does feedback right.
*FENDER Runaway* feedback pedal is more capable & in a better format, but difficult to find. Rare AF.
*BOSS FB-2 & DF-2* are not as capable, but are much older pedals. If there was enough demand BOSS could easily update.
I sold my Kemper and use an old Digital GSP1101 instead, seriously. I love how it sounds with the C63 update for importing IR cabs.
Just checked. many Stores in Germany have listed the Drop as discontinued... what a bummer. recently wanted to buy one for my Board as the whammy dt is Just to big...
Frustratingly, whilst most effects can be found pre-installed on modellers, the one’s by Digitech are probably the effects that modellers have the hardest time getting right. In fact my pedal board is just a HX Stomp with digitech pedals because they can’t be imitated yet.
This is absolutely true
I’ve been searching about this for quite some time. Thanks for making a video about it! I absolutely love this company’s craziness and creativeness, it’s a shame their products seem to have been discontinued.
Got a Johnson J-Station (arm of Digitech) years ago. Done 3 albums with it. I'll be recording while most people are still setting up mics...
RIP. God I hope nothing ever happens to my digitech whammy I fucking love that thing
Welllll, I'm glad I already have a whammy and a drop pedal. Whammy is nice to have but I don't use it too often. But the drop pedal has been an absolute lifesaver out live. I basically have two guitars, one is in standard and one is in drop D. With the drop that means basically all my tuning is covered with just those two guitars.
hopefully MXR buys them, would love more consist updates to the Whammy
I just got a whammy DT the start of this month I ordered mine on Sweetwater back in December and it was back ordered months in advance to when I finally got it.
I work for a full service production company, and were a JBL/Crown Dealer, and recently a Harmon rep was in talking about stuff and he mentioned that they're sort of tying off loose ends on all the smaller companies that they've acquired over the years because of that stuff just didn't sell so great, so it makes sense that digitech would be cut from the Harmon umbrella compared to other stuff they sell
I’m sure they were selling off the rest if there stock, only the Looking Glass seems to be “in stock” on the site, perhaps the rest reserved for dealers? Very sad for the whole Digitech/DOD brand, for many it was their first pedals and including the Whammy are famous for many tones we love.
I was holding off on buying a Drop until later this year because I have a wedding to pay for, but I went ahead and grabbed one today just in case Digitech is really dead and the price goes up. Thanks for the heads up dude!
I can't believe not one of You has mentioned My baby of pedals... The DigiTech Genesis 1!
That pedal was like God to Me growing up! 🤘🤘
My ex-wife bought me the Digitech Grunge pedal for my birthday many years ago, and I do still have it.
I'm a solo artist and use a trio+ all the time. I heard this rumor last year and ordered another trio+ to have in case they stopped making them. Sweetwater told me then it was on backorder and they didn't know when they'd have more but would ship it when they did. It took about 3 months but I got it. My advice is, if you want a Digitech product you better order it now. Maybe they'll be back or maybe not. Or maybe (foil hat in place) it's a scam to get fools like me to order extra backups. Who knows?
Yeah, if my Trio+ crashes I’ll have to hire a damned rhythm section LOL!
Ran an RP-7 for a long time and loved it. Thought it was the best because it had a real tube in it..ha. I'm sure it just worked on a starved plate voltage and didn't do much. Some years later jumped into the iPB-10 and thought there was so much potential with that product. Tones were good and lots of room for development. I think Apple had a hand in killing that product due to App Store policies.. too bad. Hope someone can pick the brand up and return it to what it was 20 years ago.
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kind of like the Vox tonelab. It also has a preamp tube, but how much does it really do?
One of my rigs is based on a a Halfler/Digitech T3 tube preamp. Just pulled it out of storage two weeks ago and I’m loving it.
R.I.P Digitech… ?
I still have my old digi rp250 board - pretty dated now but it was a super useful tool for playing live with minimal gear
You could get some really good tones out of something simple before like impulse response was as big as it is now
Big F for Digitech
That being said any modern dital processing is way better by any measure
I use the rp1000 which has loops designed for amps and other pedals. Combined with a 333xl and Mesa 4x12 leaves nothing to be desired. Been rocking that rig ever since that product came out.
I have a old RP90.. hey in a pinch it will finish out a gig for you :)
I don't have a lot of digitech stuff other than a whammy and a grunge pedal. But the quality is just as good as boss. Hope someone picks em up.
According to Phillip McKnight’s recent live stream Digitech was acquired by Cort Corp.
I've owned a few Digitech pedals over the years, and think they're great. I hope Digitech isn't gone for good.
I put in a order on March 22nd through the Digitech site and haven't gotten any update. No shipment e-mail, no cancellation e-mail, just silence.
Loving the Fazio Electric shirt man, her videos saved me when I got started working on tube amps.
NOOOOO! If anything happens to my FreQout pedal I will Freak out if I can't replace it! I DEPEND on that thing!
Damn that's a shame, Digitech was one of the most underrated brands IMO. I had the 2101 preamp which was basically the precursor to the Axe FX from the 90's and it was one of the best pieces of gear I had ever owned. I eventually sold it to focus more on my tube amps preamp sections and bought the RP1000 so I could store patches that combine the channels on my amp with the effects of the processor. Another extremely underrated piece of gear (people seem to think just because it has RP in the name means it's terrible), and I still use it to this day. Hopefully this isn't the end of Digitech, even if they did abandon 99% of their products before this situation.
Still using my RP 1 from the early 90s
I really expected you to say: "gooooood mythical morning" after the intro because of the "let's talk about that"🤣🤣
Just added the Digitech Ricochet to my pedalboard last year, its a great pedal, a lot of fun to use, sucks to see the company is probably dead 🤔
Long-time DigiTech user here.....RP300, RP350 and since 2008 the RP500. Hated when they shut down their patch sharing site years ago, but it was a sign of things to come. Might be the final push for me to snag the new Boss GX-100.
Cort acquired the Digitech brand from Harman. Cort will be releasing digitech fx pedals. I never heard of Cort untill a few weeks. I just bought a Cort bass guitar and it is an amazing bass. It seems like a good brand
it just could be that they are struggling with chip availability...
No postings from them on any of their social media since April 28, 2021.
Beginning of the month they had the DOD Envelope Filter 440 for $60, DOD Meatbox for $75 and the DOD Overdrive 250 for $75. Info was found on a deals site I frequent. I looked then and couldn’t find any other pedals for sale but these 3. All marked down at a clearance price I would say.
i ordered the drop pedal about 2 hours ago, ive been lurking it on a lot of sites and i found it finaly, only 20 pieces :)
ive just received my digitech drop pedal this month of april been waiting since january to finaly get it purchase was made at my local music store.
Also, there have been a ton of DOD Meatbox pedals for sale recently. I feel like they might have found a few boxes in the harman warehouse. The price on the meat box pedal was going up for a min. But currently you could get one for like $120 on reverb.
How can we get DigiTech products repaired? I have a DigiTech XP-100 Whammy/Wah and a DigiTech rack-mount Valve FX that both need to be repaired. Neither one will boot up when I plug 'em in and turn 'em on...
The GSP1101 is one of the most underrated bits of gear.
SW also expected the Peavey Vypyr 3 amp to come in last October, so, there's that. I hope DigiTech sticks around in one way or another.
I still miss my Digitech RP12 multi-effect processor I grabbed at a clearance sale of my local guitar shop in like 1999.
Let’s say they’re never coming back. What else is actually available for substitute options for a Whammy, Drop, etc from other pedal companies?
The drop pedal is my life saver
I still have my old digitech grunge pedal. I kinda figured something was off/happening when it seemed like it was harder to find brand new tube monkey pedals.
Still have my Digitech RP 1 and RP 12... that gets used on a weekly basis in the studio. I have many processors for the studio and live , from Digitech to Eleven rack, Line 6 rack stuff and the great POD 2.0. Fractal Logic stuff, Eventide rack gear....still use what is needed on the songs! Digitech still has the "80's" sound if you need it!! Great guitar tones came from that era.
Not just DigiTech. Also DOD. Everybody thought Harman was bullshitting everyone about ending production on these pedals, but now their last stock is dwindling. I managed to get one of the final DOD 250's, Meatbox, and Phasor--as well as a DigiTech Carcosa. But it's the sad end of an era, indeed.
I've got a Digitech RP360 XP modeling floor unit. I like it very much. It's great for practicing, I can use it standalone or connected to the computer, I can play backing tracks over it, or record my playing if I want, sounds great, it's an excellent product.
I had been looking at buying a Digitech Drop pedal for a few months. They were hovering around $235 on Amazon for a few months. Then a couple weeks ago the prices shot up to $500 for the pedal. I went to reverb and was able to find the Drop pedal for around $85-$150 (new) in Europe. Most of the vendors wouldn't ship to the USA. I ended up finding a store in Belgium that would ship to the USA for $35. I bought the pedal for $159 brand new, ($208 after shipping and fees). Sooo glad I got it. I really wanted the pedal, regardless, but now it seems it could end up being another KLON.