The new Orient Divers you were referring to are supposed to be launched in the US in August. I found them online by accident and think they look amazing. They all have a stainless steel bezel, and one of them has a Salmon dial, which I think will be a huge seller. And yes, they are supposed to be 40mm in size. Thanks for the video!
I‘m very curious about the mako 40 (don‘t know if thats gonna be the official name). Always annoyed by the 22mm lugs on my mako II and pretty much no taper at all.
Are they mako 3's but in 40mm? or a different model altogether? I def agree with what he said about giving us some options without the day and date function. I've found that to be an extra pain to set if you don't wear the watch as your daily. I don't want to grab a watch and set the time, day, and date every time i wear it
@@minimalistmaverick they are just a new 40mm Mako variant in new colorways with stainless steel bezels. In my opionion, they look significantly more premium than the previous Mako models
@@chriswatchreviews4752 nice! I just found them. They are WAY better looking! And only have the date function which is a cleaner look. Think I’ll go for these instead. Maybe wait and see if price comes down a little
I do love Orient as a brand under the Epson moniker. The inclusion of Sapphire Crystal lens is a great bonus to this watch and a much needed protection. I think every watch collection should have an Orient diver in it. My burgundy bezel Kamatsu on an after market black and red sailcloth strap is my favourite daily wearer. As highlighted by you, the blue Orient Mako 3 is the pick of the bunch looks wise but all the colourways have a strong appeal to me. My only suggestion would be an inclusion of a rubberised sail cloth strap with each? Great review as always Mark, Grazie! ⌚
I’m one of those who just can’t get past the day/date on diver watches, even Seiko’s and Islander ones previously offered. I agree Marc, a date placed at 6 or none at all would make the dial look cleaner (more balanced).
@@islandwatch Have to agree on getting away from the day on all watches - seriously, who doesn't know what day it is? My favorite Orient Diver is the Triton with the date at the 4 o'clock position.
@@joeperrone6677 i think they should keep the day date. They could also have a model with a simple dial with no complication for people who dont like it
One of my absolute favourites and most worn watch . Picked up the blue Mako 2 in 2017 and have been wearing the heck out of it. The size is perfect, keeps time very well and looks great. Super rugged as well. Would like to see the Mako USA make a comeback soon.
That blue Mako III is really something else in my opinion. I think the trick is the lighter blue quarter and the yellow tip over that deeper dial. I've read that they took inspiration from a 'morning sunrise by the sea', and although i don't much follow these poetics i can't think of any other figure to describe it.
I bought the black Kamasu w/gold edged bezel & black rubber strap from LIW, a few months ago. It has been an extremely good watch for me...close to perfection, as far as it represents the look I want in a watch. Some have complained that the stem is too small, but my skinny fingers can wind and set it OK. No problems.
It looks like they made the crown bigger. If that’s true it’s a good thing, because the crown was too small and hard for me to grip on the old version of this watch.
I really like these Orient time pieces. I am a huge Orient fan In my 15 piece collection I own 5 Orients. Now don't get me wrong. I have never seen one in person, however that redish color one looks like the color of jewelers rouge or perhaps even terracotta.
I personally differ the Rays, Makos and Kamasus by the handsets & dials, nothing else; they together are all different between each model, while cases and bracelets are unavoidable similar or the same since they're all cousins of a major budget family. I think that Orient did great with the new Mako III, easily ranging from fresh casual to conversation pieces and serious formal. I hope they upgrade the Ray II as well, perhaps with a more 'professional' vibe, like keeping the same traditional colours but with updated bezel, sapphire etc.
indeed, a marvel of a watch from what I can see in your video with beautiful presentation! But there is one thing that confuses me a lot: The screw-down-crown on the watch in this video is clearly different from the one I see in your longislandwatch shop and any other online shop. This screw in your video is noticeably thicker and it protrudes slightly over the edge. The model in your shop has a smaller screw-doen-crown. The one of today in all the online shops seems to have the flimsy screw-down-crown of the Kamasu wich often is criticised to be somewhat fiddly and wobbly? What exact model do you present in the video? And how come this difference? Which screw-down-crown is the real one? Thanks for disclosing this little secret to me. 🙂
oh gosh loving that ivory one, gives off a classic old school look, would be nice for dressing up and going out or just for casual day swimming or hiking. i need it. great video. will be checking out your web page.
I do like Orients, and those look pretty good. And at that price, its only a bit more to buy a new one than what my local jeweller was asking to service one 😮
The Mako II is my first (and still frequently worn) diver, and news about these didn’t make it to me at all until now. Good Guy Mark: out here marketing watches for a brand that isn’t even giving him much incentive to do so. (I’m gonna have trouble avoiding that rust one.)
This is a useful video. I just got mako3 from your esteemed shop. However can you please make one video that just focuses on the crown, especially winding, changing time, date, and screw down. Also a little on how to use the bezel will be also a nice addition.
These seem kind of behind the times ie. the lack of a ceramic bezel, the clasp and non screw in links. You spoiled us with all the beautiful Islander models. Thank you, kind sir!
This is a 200ish bucks watch - on the grey market, not at the ADs. You cant expect those things. With seiko and Citizen they dont even give you a sapphire crystal at this price point. Seiko doesnt even give you solid links throughout the bracelet on most Seiko 5s.
Have a Ray II and absolutely hate the crown. The crown on this one looks a lil bigger and has more grip, but I'm very reluctant to go with another Orient. Think I'll just continue to wait for the white dial Port Jefferson to come back in stock for a new watch.
Hi!!! I have an Orient watch that I bought about 13 years ago (automatic Speedtech). The stem and crown are broken and I can't find a datasheet to know the model of stem/crown to replace and I can't even get that information from the manufacturer. Any suggestion? Is there a store where I can look for this parts?
I think it’s a great refresh with the exception to the movement. The F6922 movement has been all over the place in terms of accuracy (at least with my experience). If Orient is going to raise prices they should also put a better movement in the watch in my opinion.
The rust colour -❤ I have a frost gen ray - (bought from Long Island watch) - other than the day pusher I loved it- on simple leather NATO it still gets comments . Bezel beat up from wear but so much watch for the money
I would much rather buy from a dealer I respect and have a connection with (even if it's just virtual) and pay more than pay a little less from a nameless, faceless site. Marc is a nice guy, LIW is a great company with fantastic customer service. Always my first stop when my wallet will allow a new watch purchase.
I'm quite keen on both the Orient logo (divisive, apparently, but I for one like it) AND the Islander logo (also, apparently divisive). Geez, ppl, stay TF off of Ali Express then. Or better yet, launch your own microbrand! Zelos, too - for example, has a sweet logo 🤷🏼
I have not bought an Orient from Mark in years. I would be excited about these, if they did not have such reflective crystals. Brands like Islander have made me shy away from lesser crystals.
Great to see Orient making interesting colours and staying the new Seiko. Seiko is going more upmarket it seems and Orient to offer more for less. As a note every Orient I have ever bought has been from you (admittedly some years ago...)
Please make Islander with 4R34 and style like Tudor GMT with the snow flake hands and 4 o'clock crown position with guards like in SKX. 🙏If you do I will buy it immediately. 🙂
Just a caution to all those liking the “ivory” dial. It’s not ivory whatsoever in person, but rather a champagne gold tone. Very different than what I expected & I do not like gold. I returned the “ivory” for blue & love the watch.
“My logo and their logo, which one do you hate more?” 😂 Your logo is growing on me. I like the word Islander under your logo like I think you’ve been doing on recent models. Take care Marc!
It looks more like kamasu to me, I don't really like the number index, much prefer the first kamasu index for my taste. But it is still definitely an improvement from Orient and they really listen to their customer.
9:20 "You love the logo, you hate the logo... it doesn't matter. Look! My logo and their logo; which one do you hate more?" Haha. A small self-aware dig at yourself because some people have bashed both logos? I like your logo much better!
It's a shame that Orient has dropped off so dramatically. Their movements are quite a bit better than Seiko to be honest. More stable, more accurate. I'd call that dial "brick red."
It was my interest in Orient watches that led me to Island Watch years ago, but truthfully now I'd rather buy Islanders. Marc just packs more bang for the buck. The same can be said for Orient, relative to Seiko.
I must admit reference day/ date the only watch I know of that got it bang on was Rolex.I am not a fanboy and all three of my watches are traditional day/ date at 3 oclock but hats off to Rolex for how they do it.These Orients all look sharp but all watches do look the same nowish.
They really need to bring back the Orange Mako and Pepsi colorways. The new bBue and Black versions are just OK, but the other two colorways are unattractive. The Kamasus are better looking, but I would buy an Orange Mako 3 in a heartbeat.
Please do NOT drop the day in all cases. The Mako seems to be one of the only day-date with arabics (~3,6,9,12) divers or watches with a timer bezel that anyone anywhere makes. There are so many watches made, but it is extremely hard to find a day-date + arabics + timer-bezel watch. Some fashion is fine, but having literally no watches that tell you the time with arabics and day and date is a bit extreme. If Longisland could make a smaller day-date + arabics + timer-bezel (without a huge glass caseback, thin metal is good) watch that would be so amazing for the however few people who use watches to see the time.
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Love that Ivory! Bezel colors are excellent.
thanks so much!
The new Orient Divers you were referring to are supposed to be launched in the US in August. I found them online by accident and think they look amazing. They all have a stainless steel bezel, and one of them has a Salmon dial, which I think will be a huge seller. And yes, they are supposed to be 40mm in size. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching and thanks for the info.
I‘m very curious about the mako 40 (don‘t know if thats gonna be the official name). Always annoyed by the 22mm lugs on my mako II and pretty much no taper at all.
Are they mako 3's but in 40mm? or a different model altogether? I def agree with what he said about giving us some options without the day and date function. I've found that to be an extra pain to set if you don't wear the watch as your daily. I don't want to grab a watch and set the time, day, and date every time i wear it
@@minimalistmaverick they are just a new 40mm Mako variant in new colorways with stainless steel bezels. In my opionion, they look significantly more premium than the previous Mako models
@@chriswatchreviews4752 nice! I just found them. They are WAY better looking! And only have the date function which is a cleaner look. Think I’ll go for these instead. Maybe wait and see if price comes down a little
Out of all the Mako 3s that have tried to Mako, this one Mako 3s the best.
I do love Orient as a brand under the Epson moniker. The inclusion of Sapphire Crystal lens is a great bonus to this watch and a much needed protection. I think every watch collection should have an Orient diver in it. My burgundy bezel Kamatsu on an after market black and red sailcloth strap is my favourite daily wearer. As highlighted by you, the blue Orient Mako 3 is the pick of the bunch looks wise but all the colourways have a strong appeal to me. My only suggestion would be an inclusion of a rubberised sail cloth strap with each? Great review as always Mark, Grazie! ⌚
I’m one of those who just can’t get past the day/date on diver watches, even Seiko’s and Islander ones previously offered. I agree Marc, a date placed at 6 or none at all would make the dial look cleaner (more balanced).
thanks!
@@islandwatch Have to agree on getting away from the day on all watches - seriously, who doesn't know what day it is? My favorite Orient Diver is the Triton with the date at the 4 o'clock position.
@@joeperrone6677 i think they should keep the day date. They could also have a model with a simple dial with no complication for people who dont like it
For many watch wearers the day and date complication is a useful necessity. There are myriad models with date window only for those who prefer.
One of my absolute favourites and most worn watch . Picked up the blue Mako 2 in 2017 and have been wearing the heck out of it. The size is perfect, keeps time very well and looks great. Super rugged as well. Would like to see the Mako USA make a comeback soon.
That blue Mako III is really something else in my opinion. I think the trick is the lighter blue quarter and the yellow tip over that deeper dial. I've read that they took inspiration from a 'morning sunrise by the sea', and although i don't much follow these poetics i can't think of any other figure to describe it.
thanks much
I bought the black Kamasu w/gold edged bezel & black rubber strap from LIW, a few months ago. It has been an extremely good watch for me...close to perfection, as far as it represents the look I want in a watch. Some have complained that the stem is too small, but my skinny fingers can wind and set it OK. No problems.
There is nothing wrong with Orient logo, and your updated logo is quite good.
OOOOoooo, that cream dial color scheme is amazing. Hey Marc. Do something like that in an Islander and I’ll buy another one.
noted!
Love these unique and slightly odd colors. Having trouble picking a fav between the "rust" and ivory.
I bought the Mako Gen 1 on your site and I still wear it frequently.
It looks like they made the crown bigger. If that’s true it’s a good thing, because the crown was too small and hard for me to grip on the old version of this watch.
So should I get the Mako 2? or this one?
I really like these Orient time pieces. I am a huge Orient fan
In my 15 piece collection I own 5 Orients. Now don't get me wrong. I have never seen one in person, however that redish color one looks like the color of jewelers rouge or perhaps even terracotta.
Terracotta is great as well.
I personally differ the Rays, Makos and Kamasus by the handsets & dials, nothing else; they together are all different between each model, while cases and bracelets are unavoidable similar or the same since they're all cousins of a major budget family. I think that Orient did great with the new Mako III, easily ranging from fresh casual to conversation pieces and serious formal. I hope they upgrade the Ray II as well, perhaps with a more 'professional' vibe, like keeping the same traditional colours but with updated bezel, sapphire etc.
easy to mistake one for the other
I just picked up the black an gold version.. I'm super happy , love time pieces . Islander is next for me
indeed, a marvel of a watch from what I can see in your video with beautiful presentation! But there is one thing that confuses me a lot: The screw-down-crown on the watch in this video is clearly different from the one I see in your longislandwatch shop and any other online shop. This screw in your video is noticeably thicker and it protrudes slightly over the edge. The model in your shop has a smaller screw-doen-crown. The one of today in all the online shops seems to have the flimsy screw-down-crown of the Kamasu wich often is criticised to be somewhat fiddly and wobbly? What exact model do you present in the video? And how come this difference? Which screw-down-crown is the real one? Thanks for disclosing this little secret to me. 🙂
The Manhasset looks so sharp, I have to add that to the collection one day
Better looking than a Longines Conquest or Explorer?
oh gosh loving that ivory one, gives off a classic old school look, would be nice for dressing up and going out or just for casual day swimming or hiking. i need it. great video. will be checking out your web page.
I do like Orients, and those look pretty good. And at that price, its only a bit more to buy a new one than what my local jeweller was asking to service one 😮
The Mako II is my first (and still frequently worn) diver, and news about these didn’t make it to me at all until now. Good Guy Mark: out here marketing watches for a brand that isn’t even giving him much incentive to do so. (I’m gonna have trouble avoiding that rust one.)
thank you!
This is a useful video. I just got mako3 from your esteemed shop. However can you please make one video that just focuses on the crown, especially winding, changing time, date, and screw down. Also a little on how to use the bezel will be also a nice addition.
Any word on the bezel being the same specs as the Kamasu bezel, e.g. from longislandwatch: "replacement bezels under part number B15-P and B16-P"?
Nice watches! There isn't a lot of talk about the new M Force series. Are they not as popular?
What about the extra spacing issue at 26 and 33 minute marks? Have they resolved this problem yet?
These seem kind of behind the times ie. the lack of a ceramic bezel, the clasp and non screw in links. You spoiled us with all the beautiful Islander models. Thank you, kind sir!
Corners have to be cut to keep the price attainable - and still offers more than a Seiko "5KX".
This is a 200ish bucks watch - on the grey market, not at the ADs. You cant expect those things. With seiko and Citizen they dont even give you a sapphire crystal at this price point. Seiko doesnt even give you solid links throughout the bracelet on most Seiko 5s.
noted!
We should call this the Makosu, especially since the Kamasu was first referred to as a Mako III by some folks.
Man I wonder if kamasu bezels fit on the new mako 3, not a huge fan of the two tone bezels.
Have a Ray II and absolutely hate the crown. The crown on this one looks a lil bigger and has more grip, but I'm very reluctant to go with another Orient.
Think I'll just continue to wait for the white dial Port Jefferson to come back in stock for a new watch.
okay, thanks
Hi!!!
I have an Orient watch that I bought about 13 years ago (automatic Speedtech). The stem and crown are broken and I can't find a datasheet to know the model of stem/crown to replace and I can't even get that information from the manufacturer. Any suggestion? Is there a store where I can look for this parts?
I think it’s a great refresh with the exception to the movement. The F6922 movement has been all over the place in terms of accuracy (at least with my experience). If Orient is going to raise prices they should also put a better movement in the watch in my opinion.
The rust colour -❤
I have a frost gen ray - (bought from Long Island watch) - other than the day pusher I loved it- on simple leather NATO it still gets comments . Bezel beat up from wear but so much watch for the money
great watch!
Why havent Orient released a 38mm diver yet? All their divers are too dang big for my wrist. ☹
I love both the Orient and Islander logos!
thank you!
I would much rather buy from a dealer I respect and have a connection with (even if it's just virtual) and pay more than pay a little less from a nameless, faceless site. Marc is a nice guy, LIW is a great company with fantastic customer service. Always my first stop when my wallet will allow a new watch purchase.
Thank you so much.
My Favorite of all time is the Orient Mako USA
If they could just make this exact watch 38-39mm, I'd be sold. I actually really like the day/date complication.
Your store says "Automatic, Handwind and hack" what is it? Automatic?
A glashütte or blancpain type bezel would look amazing on this watch.
Its another diver yet again. Good upgrade with sapphire but how many divers does one need?
Another one
-DJ Khaled
Enough to fill a charter live-aboard dive boat LOL!
lots!
I'm quite keen on both the Orient logo (divisive, apparently, but I for one like it) AND the Islander logo (also, apparently divisive). Geez, ppl, stay TF off of Ali Express then. Or better yet, launch your own microbrand! Zelos, too - for example, has a sweet logo 🤷🏼
Love the rust color dial. 🐶😊
Thanks Brande
I have not bought an Orient from Mark in years. I would be excited about these, if they did not have such reflective crystals. Brands like Islander have made me shy away from lesser crystals.
Darn it, Marc. I just ordered one from Orient USA. I would have rather given you my money
I like to orient logo the most, i realy like it alot.
Great to see Orient making interesting colours and staying the new Seiko. Seiko is going more upmarket it seems and Orient to offer more for less. As a note every Orient I have ever bought has been from you (admittedly some years ago...)
I think that's true, but also Orient is going through some of their own distribution pains.
Love the tiny violin popup. Lol
Was the ‘bleep’ supposed to be in the video?
Mako USA II in White for the WIN.
Please make Islander with 4R34 and style like Tudor GMT with the snow flake hands and 4 o'clock crown position with guards like in SKX. 🙏If you do I will buy it immediately. 🙂
okay, thank you!
@@islandwatchOr something similar to Timex Q GMT. 🙏 🙂
Nice watches
Not a bad watch but I think the Islander has it beat. I was the one that said the brown dial looks rusty. Thanks Marc. Have a great day!
Thanks, you too!
Love them, as Orient is my favorite but I liked the Islander more...
Just a caution to all those liking the “ivory” dial. It’s not ivory whatsoever in person, but rather a champagne gold tone. Very different than what I expected & I do not like gold.
I returned the “ivory” for blue & love the watch.
Mako USA had sapphire and SEL. Made it worth the price.
“My logo and their logo, which one do you hate more?” 😂 Your logo is growing on me. I like the word Islander under your logo like I think you’ve been doing on recent models. Take care Marc!
Thank you! It will grow on you like a weed
Love the Islander Logo. Would love to see an Islander watch based on the logo clock in the studio, 1 colorway with 2 rubber straps a blue and a white.
I want the blue on your mesh strap. That will be my 007 haha
the orange JDM looks killer
JDM?
Haven't seen it
@@islandwatch there’s two jdm versions. one orange and the other one I think it’s blue
@@zplapplap only for Japan market
Would you consider the Orient Mako II USA the Mako version 2.5? Haha
It was certainly a step in the right direction
8:31 the ivory is the winner. I like D&D, just because it’s so old school watchy.
thank you
Anyone customize the bezel? What after market bezel did you use? Kamasu or Mako?
Orient. Mako. 3. The. Legend. Returns !
will LIW be selling the burn orange with grey bezel?
These are the only 4 to make it to the USA for now.
Can't concentrate on the review, still thinking about that red Manhasset
It looks more like kamasu to me, I don't really like the number index, much prefer the first kamasu index for my taste. But it is still definitely an improvement from Orient and they really listen to their customer.
It's a Kamasu with a Mako dial
I've been looking at this watch!
Awesome!
I haven't got dementia! I know what day it is!
Am I the only one that has noticed that the stock pictures show these watches with the smaller crown?
9:20 "You love the logo, you hate the logo... it doesn't matter. Look! My logo and their logo; which one do you hate more?" Haha. A small self-aware dig at yourself because some people have bashed both logos? I like your logo much better!
haha, thank you
It's a shame that Orient has dropped off so dramatically. Their movements are quite a bit better than Seiko to be honest. More stable, more accurate.
I'd call that dial "brick red."
It was my interest in Orient watches that led me to Island Watch years ago, but truthfully now I'd rather buy Islanders. Marc just packs more bang for the buck. The same can be said for Orient, relative to Seiko.
Well, thank you very much
I must admit reference day/ date the only watch I know of that got it bang on was Rolex.I am not a fanboy and all three of my watches are traditional day/ date at 3 oclock but hats off to Rolex for how they do it.These Orients all look sharp but all watches do look the same nowish.
Thanks Glenn
Really nice but way to small for me ☹️
I’d call that brick red.
Nice but I’m saving for an Islander.
Good choice!
I love sword hands on a diver.
They look good
Dial balance would be better with a bigger case and dial 😉
balance is always good
Whats ur wrist size
Best Dmickey mouseD Ever!
thanks!!!!
I didn't know about the names shenanigans. This is such a mess, if we have to call them by their reference numbers, we're doomed.
They really need to bring back the Orange Mako and Pepsi colorways. The new bBue and Black versions are just OK, but the other two colorways are unattractive. The Kamasus are better looking, but I would buy an Orange Mako 3 in a heartbeat.
Orange is cool. Not enough from them
Hi, good video 👍🏼
glad!
As someone who owns the Kamasu, it’s a Kamasu with different hands/indices haha
And a better crown...
I don't hate either logo.
Thank you
lol. legit thinking how to replace that awful looking bezel and you're like "Ima go out on a limb..."
I wish they lose the Day Date window as Marc said.
Yup! Or at least part of the lineup
Why do they have different crowns in different pictures. The crowns on these new ones look better and larger.
Agreed. These are more like "Mako" and "Ray" crowns.
Orient should release the Neptune diver.
They should. But it would be $1000 todag
I thought the whole point with Orient was its supposed to be affordable?
I guess it depends on your definition
@@islandwatch Its my money, so my definition of affordable is the correct one. 😂
such a dificult choice! :D
38mm is the new trend, they should downsize more
I don’t understand why 38mm is becoming a trend, they look so incredibly tiny even on the smallest of wrists.
The big trend is over I guess.
@@islandwatch as someone with a 7.5” wrist anything below 40mm looks like a kids watch or a dress watch.
They need to do away with the hollow end links. Like seriously, nobody but them uses those nowadays.
Only Orient USA, the distributor, names them though. Orient never names their watches. Like true Japanese.
👍
:)
The re/brown looks like clay...
Dial, hands, and bezel are ALLLLL Mako. More mako than Kamasu.
Agreed
Please do NOT drop the day in all cases. The Mako seems to be one of the only day-date with arabics (~3,6,9,12) divers or watches with a timer bezel that anyone anywhere makes. There are so many watches made, but it is extremely hard to find a day-date + arabics + timer-bezel watch. Some fashion is fine, but having literally no watches that tell you the time with arabics and day and date is a bit extreme. If Longisland could make a smaller day-date + arabics + timer-bezel (without a huge glass caseback, thin metal is good) watch that would be so amazing for the however few people who use watches to see the time.