If Bafana did not kill Kirsten. He must be a very sick Psychopath. How on earth can a normal being undress the deased and wear her clothes? I wanna reserve my comment for wether he did it or not for latter. Bafana is very sick
Do you even listen to his consistent explanation of the events that led to him wearing those clothes??? That boy is a sane, smart student whose curiosity got him into trouble. Who are you to spew your judgemental guts here.
The courts need to catch up with the times, proceedings should be recorded so that they can be transcribed later- because really, why must a grown adult read like that?😭😭
GOSH He is old and annoying they forget that other countries are laughing at us as if are slow paced country how on earth can such Gigantic man read like 5 year old
With all the money we pay towards tax and the advancements in AI, one would think by now our courts would have record-to-type devices(I can do that with my phone). The fact that we’re still relying on typewriters/ court clerks is embarrassing. Meanwhile our government officials are living lavish lives 😑
This case touched me because I also have tendencies to act abnormally when I am scared or shocked I only realise later that I acted abnormally and could have handled the situation better
It’s not only about facts. You need to be able to string a compelling argument with the evidence. Having a great advocate goes a long way. Look at the OJ case.
The Defence Attorney is right this is just a bail application but the prosecution already is Trying the Case😂, someone should advise the Prosecution,the Judge should advise the Prosecution,if they base their evidence in video footage,Then Why dint you have that in court😂The Defence Attorney is right,if you have the footage show everything and why it's not in court,Look at the dates on their statements,one day before court😂😂A Big Thumbs up to the Defence Attorney 😂
What I can say is; if he is innocent, it will be very hard to prove, especially if Kirsten was not raped. As for wearing Kirsten's t-shirt; that gives me the creeps, and is a menacing criminal behaviour.
when this incident acquired, Where were the other runners? Can the state Provide us with the CCTV Footage not photographic evidence. The runners must be questioned as well.🧐
Condolences to the family, but the killer is still out there. Boy is just unlucky that his curiosity got the better of him. You'll swallow your humble pies when the real killer, with a motive, is apprehended .
The way i am so invested in this case, i think i need to seek therapy. I agree with you that there will be a twist in this case, new evidence will be uncovered, nonetheless a life has been lost, someone needs to account for that, I just hope that indeed Bafana is telling the truth, i am saddened by this.
On Wednesday advocate Ayanda said in the morning on 404 as I was watching that the CCTV footage shows days before Kluyts death where she was followers by Bafana and he didn't do anything he took pictures of her. That was days before her death so it was premeditated.
Don't trust Investigation Officer with that statement stating things not on the photos, should bring the footage. Watching and learning from Senzos case loopholes on the SAPS/Investigators messed up the case from the beginning.
I dont know why i have tk ask this but i think maybe we would understand this case.... 3 questions????? Why was the car not taken or the phone? What was the motive there? Last question if the was a running event going on why was no one present or seeing her with the killer unless if she saw someone she knew then went to that person?
the car has a tracker and the cellphone has gps thay can also be traceable ,remember he was not there yo steal or harm ,he said he was there to check if the body was still alive he took off her clothes bcoz he didn't want anything to do with the police.
My thoughts exactly 🤔 well it has to be someone close because why would you cover the victim,a normal killer won't do that and she wasn't killed anywhere othere than that park,
This was a crime of passion, Period! How do you wear deceased clothes to keeping her gadgets? The arrogance in his responses say defensive, he’s so guilty his lawyer can only defend from the side lines, useless 🙄
The is no case here From point of view the is no evidence link that the accused had murder the teacher in some point...he was trying to help unfortunately it was too 😢 But let the law take it cause 🤷🤷 Bail should be granted in any manner whatsoever
No man, this boy undressed the deceased because he touched the body and he did not want to be implicated. This boy have a knowledge of destroying the evidence. Something is fishy here. This boy know the truth. Moreover, he did not want to report the body to the police and did not tell anyone . this murder is meditated. Finish
Bafana killed this poor woman, but no intentionally. It was a robbery gone wrong. Then he went on to try and create an alley by taking those pictures. When he was asked what time he got to sandton, he said around 9:30 maybe 10 and proceeded to say he had pictures of the times on his phone. The state gave him records from telkom showing him in the area (the tower acroos the street from the park) at 7:35. The footage shows thr lady entering the gate, and him entering the gate., then a last pic of him at the gate. He mentions the shadows in the 3rd pic, yes there is no shadows as the is the pic from him leaving the park. But on the other pic when he entered the gate, the pic is similar to that of the deceased. He follows her as he robs her she starts screaming. He strangles her to try stop her screaming but she continues. Thats when he strucks her with a blunt object and suddenly shes dead. He panicks and try to get rid of evidence. He so scared coz he never ment to kill her. Suddenly he is no longer interested in stealing a phones or anything. He just wants to get out and save himself.He then strips her naked. He sees a blankent at the park( probably from hobos who sleep at the park) and covers her naked body. Its a robbery gone wrong.
It’s creative narrations like this, which ends up affecting other people’s lives severely.. because you believe so much that people think like you that, it’s the only narrative. Defense has put up very important points : Too much missing information, especially the video footages.. So much speculations, impressions and opinions that arrive at dangerous conclusions
There was no picture of Bafana leaving the park, it is said that he skipped the fence, the picture where he was seen wearing the deceased's t-shirt wasn't found at the Park. Also, why would he steal when he seems to be from a well off family? This crime took place in a rich neighborhood so I doubt there'd be pick pocketers in the park who'd come to steal small stuff like phones, clearly this was a murder planned out very well and the evidence is insufficient to prove that it was Bafana who did it, I think the prosecution should be investing in finding another suspect because nothing they have links Bafana to the murder.
Eish 👌💯🙏🏽This Defence Attorney Is Straight to the Point,this Prosecution is emotional thinking the defence Attorney Is attacking him personally 😂😂😂he doesn't realise it's his doing, he's actions are being disputed exposed and he didn't like it, The Prosecution should realise they made a mistake and do damage control,but he doesn't want to look like a man who made a mistake,he's to proud,
It's hard to see this happening to one's child.You raise nd educate him with hope that he will grow up to be a responsible human being,but alas you raising a monster. I sympathise with the parents of Bafana. In their shoes, I would have died. May the truth of what transpired that day prevail. The investigators have done a sterling job.
let the state give bafana bail they rather keep him on house arrest they must not look at the colour of the skin truly speaking the state fail if bafana didn't come through i don't think they would have knew about this
More evidence to be brought in, the footage to show from the beginning until where the boy remove the t-shirt and leave the crime scene. 1) The car keys, where was the car parked, 2) Fingerprint on the neck (DNA) 3) footage showing Bafana jumping the fence in the park 4) the last call made or last WhatsApp chats 5) Who saw her walking as she was pregnant 6) Who last saw her alive Kusazonyiwa la😳 we want to see justice done based on evidence not speculations. Senzos case is delayed due to mistakes made by SAPS/Investigators. Justice shall prevail.
I don't understand. This accused so far iv seen him appear wearing 2 different designer T-shirts. But the way I understand jail to be, a soft boy like this one normally gets robbed by other prisoners.
Where is the full cctv footage though whether he is guilty or not ? .on the cctv footage one should be able to see how she was taken by the murderer (in this case Bafana ) if he just attacked her from the back or he came out of the the bushes and strangled her ,how exact did she end up in the bushes does the cctv footage not have that coz that’s the most important part of the cctv footage how she disappeared from the walk way or the track what exactly happened there . Also even if Bafana Panicked about finger prints etc why did he have to wear the ladies T-shirt it’s still not a valid reason for him to want to cover the clothes etc .there is more to this case.
If Trevor the IT guy can see what Time he walked away from the body wearing her clothes...he should tell us what time he went in following her not just walking out.....
This boy is innocent and it would be awful for the state to charge him guilty where as Senzo Meyiwa's case not closed yet, us black people aren't treated the same for calling cops to murder sinces, I'd run away too. Xola Benzi's words not Wanda Benzi.
The cameras were able to see him come in and throw the clothing in the the drain but the cameras were not able to see him commit the crime. Multiple cameras!!
Devence Lawyer is like a cat on a hot tin roof. All over the place... How do you live with yourself when you try and defend a murderer. Just a note...there is a public outcry when you let a murderer loose in public. Justice will find him. Watch this space.
Is their job (LLB degree) they chose. This guy I think he might be a psychopathic killer.. I fail to understand how can you wear deceased cloths?. It against African and human culture.. Maybe he is a psychopathy or drug user. What he did was against the societal norms. In African culture when your relative passed on... u don't use his or her belongings until it has been culturally cleansed.
In South Africa we have human rights. We are not guilty till proven innocent. We are innocent until proven guilty. If this was your brother/sister being accused of murder would you still make such an arrogant and ignorant statements?
Jumping into conclusions will lead us astray, let us wait to see how the case is going to unfold, but until then the suspect is innocent until proven guilty, it is the law and it should apply to everyone in a situation like this one. Nothing that has the prosecution submitted before the court thus far gives us the assumption as to the guilt of the accused
It seems like the prosecutor is intentionally reading slow so that the there won't enough time to conclude with the matter. He knew he wanted to postpone the bail application then he has time to prepare himself to respond to the defense. He's so pathetic.
jus came across this story everyone saying he is innocent i hope you don't have any desire to. be future judges nton nton or we will have lots of convicts walking free, how is he innocent wen he disposed evidence (which is the victims clothes🧐, wat was his motive there,after the scene he went to. the restaurant but never felt any urge to tell someone that there was a dead body 🧐, why do he not use the main gate to exit, who stumbles on a dead body n touches it 🙄, I watch lots of crime documentaries never ever in my life have I seen someone in their tight state touch the body in fact they look. for help, n lastly removing a random dead persons clothes so you not implicated to the crime hayibo we need more smart people than daft people, there's no innocence here n I. hope he rots in jail where he belongs, his attitude is sickening
I’m not a lawyer! But I’m sure Law is a profession governed by professional code of conduct & there’s nothing professional about letting emotions cloud one.?Also the decision to not submit the CCTV footage 🚩 🚩🚩
.this teacher works near by investigation at school needs Tobe conducted at schools based on relationship amongst educators and promotion it happens this young man find himself crossing fire and still young you can look at him he is so unfortunate
Also,she was pregnant and not married or engaged ,that is very rare amongst white community,they also need to look into the nature of her romantic relationship if she was not maybe dating a married man .that could also have led us here.
If Bafana did not kill Kirsten. He must be a very sick Psychopath. How on earth can a normal being undress the deased and wear her clothes? I wanna reserve my comment for wether he did it or not for latter. Bafana is very sick
I am with you on that
Hhay inganekwane le yalomfana
Facts
Do you even listen to his consistent explanation of the events that led to him wearing those clothes??? That boy is a sane, smart student whose curiosity got him into trouble. Who are you to spew your judgemental guts here.
Very true
The fact that the state doesn’t wanna present the CCTV footage to the courthouse is suspicious
I've been saying that all along they want to pin him for the murder while the real culprit walks freely amongst us 😢
It’s sad 💔😭
This is bail hearing the footage will be presented during trial
They have evidence they cannot present everything on bail
Excetly.@@rudzanikharivhe6294
The courts need to catch up with the times, proceedings should be recorded so that they can be transcribed later- because really, why must a grown adult read like that?😭😭
Exactly 😭😭😭even increasing the speed 2x, but the pauses... I still feel them 😭
My point precisely
Are you are lawyer?
GOSH He is old and annoying they forget that other countries are laughing at us as if are slow paced country how on earth can such Gigantic man read like 5 year old
With all the money we pay towards tax and the advancements in AI, one would think by now our courts would have record-to-type devices(I can do that with my phone). The fact that we’re still relying on typewriters/ court clerks is embarrassing. Meanwhile our government officials are living lavish lives 😑
This case touched me because I also have tendencies to act abnormally when I am scared or shocked
I only realise later that I acted abnormally and could have handled the situation better
I get you, but undressing the corpe is beyond abnormal
I doubt if you can undress the corpse and wear her clothes it's beyond abnormal
Same here, i sometime laugh, and after sometime i would begin to realise bana i alomost died and i would en up crying.
The defence overkilled their arguments, well presented application for bail proving exceptional circumstances. I hope it will be granted.
Law is not based on emotions at all. The facts before the court will decide the fate of Mahugela when it goes to trail. Let lawyers do their work.
Thank you!
It’s not only about facts. You need to be able to string a compelling argument with the evidence. Having a great advocate goes a long way. Look at the OJ case.
The Defence Attorney is right this is just a bail application but the prosecution already is Trying the Case😂, someone should advise the Prosecution,the Judge should advise the Prosecution,if they base their evidence in video footage,Then Why dint you have that in court😂The Defence Attorney is right,if you have the footage show everything and why it's not in court,Look at the dates on their statements,one day before court😂😂A Big Thumbs up to the Defence Attorney 😂
Why is the prosecutor so heated? It’s giving unprofessional
He is babalass that one
He thinks he is a celebrity with lots of arrogance
What I can say is; if he is innocent, it will be very hard to prove, especially if Kirsten was not raped. As for wearing Kirsten's t-shirt; that gives me the creeps, and is a menacing criminal behaviour.
when this incident acquired, Where were the other runners? Can the state Provide us with the CCTV Footage not photographic evidence. The runners must be questioned as well.🧐
They musnt forget to investigate the husband or boyfriend or her ex boyfriends as well
Apparently only 8 participants on the race. Also she conceived by IVF, no bf or husband.
My question as well
Ooh
@@nandempahlwa1565that's exactly where the killer is. I've been saying. The killer is out there!
I tried putting 2x speed but even then, his reading is too slow. It's the long pauses between words that make it worse... Haikhona😭😭😭
Yoh he's terrible😢
The pause is for the writers to copy down with pens, typing. So chill and not rush to conclusions.
@@sellolebaka4331 Okay then I think the SA court system should update ie recording court proceedings for transcribers instead of this 😩.
Me too. It's my movie for this Friday night 😂😂😂
@@nokwandamtungwa5051 Hope you have some popcorn too cuz it's gonna be a long one 🍿🕕🕒🕓🕥🤣
WHERE DID THE BLANKET-THING CAME FROM, IN WHICH KIRSTEN WAS WRAPPED? WHOSE BLANKET WAS IT?
My question since first day of bail hearing
Clearly the lady was killed and thrown there, but by not this boy. The killer is still out there.
The blanket could have been at the park
It wasn't a blanket!!!
@@khanyisamakhubele1692who randomly leaves a blanket at a park?
Condolences to the family, but the killer is still out there. Boy is just unlucky that his curiosity got the better of him. You'll swallow your humble pies when the real killer, with a motive, is apprehended .
You seem to know the killer, why don’t you go on and tell the police. This boy is a psychopath, curious people don’t do what he did
The way i am so invested in this case, i think i need to seek therapy. I agree with you that there will be a twist in this case, new evidence will be uncovered, nonetheless a life has been lost, someone needs to account for that, I just hope that indeed Bafana is telling the truth, i am saddened by this.
Take off the clothes of the dead body is not curiosity.
On Wednesday advocate Ayanda said in the morning on 404 as I was watching that the CCTV footage shows days before Kluyts death where she was followers by Bafana and he didn't do anything he took pictures of her. That was days before her death so it was premeditated.
@@tebogomabusela8251 aybo srs,kanti what's wrong with this boy ngampela.
Serial killer, thug. He even jumbed on locked gates😢. He looks the opposite of his actual self
Without evidence do not be quick to judge. Rather ask why they are withholding video footage 😂
Don't trust Investigation Officer with that statement stating things not on the photos, should bring the footage.
Watching and learning from Senzos case loopholes on the SAPS/Investigators messed up the case from the beginning.
Incredible defence 👌
This boy is innocent ....
45:48 wearing deceased clothes?
@@haroldligege841doesn't necessarily mean he killed her. One thing he is guilty of is wearing her clothes
@@stellasamela8616What could be the reason of wearing her clothes than his maybe?
He’s a murder just like you
Why would you defend him
Not at all. He has already started saying. " I can't respond to that." HYPOTHETICAL questions are coming.
This boy killed the woman
That he did
bruh why is he reading like a 5 year old ?
We gonna be here all night
I guess,he reads that way for the typist
So annoyed 😂😂
@@lucymogotsi3627makes sense if that the case
For the court clerks to capture everything.
I dont know why i have tk ask this but i think maybe we would understand this case.... 3 questions?????
Why was the car not taken or the phone?
What was the motive there?
Last question if the was a running event going on why was no one present or seeing her with the killer unless if she saw someone she knew then went to that person?
the car has a tracker and the cellphone has gps thay can also be traceable ,remember he was not there yo steal or harm ,he said he was there to check if the body was still alive he took off her clothes bcoz he didn't want anything to do with the police.
My thoughts exactly 🤔 well it has to be someone close because why would you cover the victim,a normal killer won't do that and she wasn't killed anywhere othere than that park,
If not poor prosecutor is a corrupt prosecutor. NPA nxa 🚮
I second you there is nothing that he is doing
But I can tell young man will come out cause of this powerful lawyer
He will be charged for defeating the ends of justice
I don't think he will be charge for defeating ends of justice because it was not intentional but he will be charged for theft.
@@thabothabo3576 oh i see
This boy is acting smart he knows he did it but that lawyer of his... is making him say all the things he is saying
I wish they would allow an English speaking person to read out the testimony. His shocking accent is hard to listen to!!😱
You wanted him to have a British accent for you to hear him. He's an African man kaloku😮
Why is the prosecutor angry?
Meaning he was seen before the victim was killed but hes trying to prove like he found her dead
The way this state attorney is reading, it's giving stupidity 😂😂😂
If the lady was covered by a blanket or rage.does the photos shows this boy carrying something like a blanket??
And the undressing part?
No sign of blanket in the leaked pics of him walking
His so shocked he undress an unknown dead woman
The prosecutor doesn’t instil much confidence🙄
The parents must demand a more eloquent and competent advocate.
The defence lawyer is teaching me
I’m learning
Viva voce🙆🏾♀️
He is giving us a law lesson and I’m following
You cannot get excited by a tshirt😅😅😅that's for the media😂😂😂
State needs to relax
Honestly, I'm impressed with this boxing much. Please, Mgomezulu, he needs to listen to this defense very impressive
This boy is innocent. Great defense.
@gwuministries2895 the evidence says otherwise
This was a crime of passion, Period! How do you wear deceased clothes to keeping her gadgets? The arrogance in his responses say defensive, he’s so guilty his lawyer can only defend from the side lines, useless 🙄
Really some people got missed wire walk around wearing clothes of a dead person.
But they said he didn’t keep her gadgets
That’s way the difference lawyer is questioning the robbery claim
Anyone who thinks this boy is innocent needs help
He is the one who knows what happened that day but the truth has a weird way of coming out Uzobona,
His mental capacity must be check as for me he is not in his right mind himself. Anyway its just a matter of time than we will know tge truth.😮
We can ask the cousins from agenda network about his mental fitness am sure they can smell a rat on this one
I think my opinion, since on of the charges preferred to the suspect is murder then there's need for mental examination .
The is no case here
From point of view the is no evidence link that the accused had murder the teacher in some point...he was trying to help unfortunately it was too 😢
But let the law take it cause 🤷🤷
Bail should be granted in any manner whatsoever
Very true was trying to help her
@@twaibukavanga4573helping a deceased by taking off her clothes and wear her T-shirt? He might be innocent but he is sick in his mind
The arrogance by the lawyer of the criminal is abhorrent
What the CCTV footage will show is a massive discrepancy in time. That’s why they are holding off.
Youre extremely smart thankyou!!
I agree
No man, this boy undressed the deceased because he touched the body and he did not want to be implicated. This boy have a knowledge of destroying the evidence. Something is fishy here. This boy know the truth. Moreover, he did not want to report the body to the police and did not tell anyone . this murder is meditated. Finish
Klaar
Am looking for that wicked mockery smile...I can't find it..
Same, people like making up things
The guy did it. Why did he jump over the fence??
No one else was seen at park only him.
The whole legal team both defense and prosecution are useless. This is a charade!
Not qualified, they asked the same questions and left a lot out
Bafana killed this poor woman, but no intentionally. It was a robbery gone wrong. Then he went on to try and create an alley by taking those pictures. When he was asked what time he got to sandton, he said around 9:30 maybe 10 and proceeded to say he had pictures of the times on his phone. The state gave him records from telkom showing him in the area (the tower acroos the street from the park) at 7:35. The footage shows thr lady entering the gate, and him entering the gate., then a last pic of him at the gate. He mentions the shadows in the 3rd pic, yes there is no shadows as the is the pic from him leaving the park. But on the other pic when he entered the gate, the pic is similar to that of the deceased. He follows her as he robs her she starts screaming. He strangles her to try stop her screaming but she continues. Thats when he strucks her with a blunt object and suddenly shes dead. He panicks and try to get rid of evidence. He so scared coz he never ment to kill her. Suddenly he is no longer interested in stealing a phones or anything. He just wants to get out and save himself.He then strips her naked. He sees a blankent at the park( probably from hobos who sleep at the park) and covers her naked body. Its a robbery gone wrong.
It’s creative narrations like this, which ends up affecting other people’s lives severely.. because you believe so much that people think like you that, it’s the only narrative.
Defense has put up very important points :
Too much missing information, especially the video footages..
So much speculations, impressions and opinions that arrive at dangerous conclusions
@DocSakhi she makes a lot of sense
There was no picture of Bafana leaving the park, it is said that he skipped the fence, the picture where he was seen wearing the deceased's t-shirt wasn't found at the Park. Also, why would he steal when he seems to be from a well off family? This crime took place in a rich neighborhood so I doubt there'd be pick pocketers in the park who'd come to steal small stuff like phones, clearly this was a murder planned out very well and the evidence is insufficient to prove that it was Bafana who did it, I think the prosecution should be investing in finding another suspect because nothing they have links Bafana to the murder.
@@Refilwe_09 you don't make sense
He seems to come from a well off family, I wonder why he would rob
His prosecutor ❤
You mean defense?
Defence lawyer not prosecutor.
Why do they pause so much when they speak/read? It shouldn't take this long to read what the state law person is reading. 😢
He’s a murder jus like you
This boy is funny, he's afraid of corpses at home but he has the guts to undress a stranger's corpse.Very amazing indeed.
He's definitely hiding something
Eish 👌💯🙏🏽This Defence Attorney Is Straight to the Point,this Prosecution is emotional thinking the defence Attorney Is attacking him personally 😂😂😂he doesn't realise it's his doing, he's actions are being disputed exposed and he didn't like it,
The Prosecution should realise they made a mistake and do damage control,but he doesn't want to look like a man who made a mistake,he's to proud,
the only crime that bafana was to take the women clothes never talked about what he saw 🐑🐑
that man’s reading is tedious and draining to listen to. as though he is a primary school student doing prepared reading
The reading process for full understanding is really too slow, lot of gabs in sentences to follow up.
May the truth prevail. It's been a long day.
It's hard to see this happening to one's child.You raise nd educate him with hope that he will grow up to be a responsible human being,but alas you raising a monster. I sympathise with the parents of Bafana. In their shoes, I would have died. May the truth of what transpired that day prevail. The investigators have done a sterling job.
let the state give bafana bail they rather keep him on house arrest they must not look at the colour of the skin truly speaking the state fail if bafana didn't come through i don't think they would have knew about this
And the rug or blanket covering the body...where did that come from or am I lost.
Its now new
More evidence to be brought in, the footage to show from the beginning until where the boy remove the t-shirt and leave the crime scene.
1) The car keys, where was the car parked,
2) Fingerprint on the neck (DNA)
3) footage showing Bafana jumping the fence in the park
4) the last call made or last WhatsApp chats
5) Who saw her walking as she was pregnant
6) Who last saw her alive
Kusazonyiwa la😳 we want to see justice done based on evidence not speculations.
Senzos case is delayed due to mistakes made by SAPS/Investigators. Justice shall prevail.
Can we have the defence lawyer on Senzo case
I don't understand. This accused so far iv seen him appear wearing 2 different designer T-shirts.
But the way I understand jail to be, a soft boy like this one normally gets robbed by other prisoners.
Why is it that the court hasn't brought forward the footage if they claim there is one
Wish this was the defence in Senzo Meyiwa case
THIS JUDGE AND THE STATE SUCK THEY MUST STOP USING STATE POWER AND APPLY THE LAW AS IS.😒😒
😭😭😭😭😭 our kids why
NPA exposed themselves. No facts and he've anger issues this prosecutor 😂😂😂😂😂
What's happening, when is court date for this murderer. No bail till found guilty
Setting >>> Playback Speed >>> 1.75
thanks for the suggestion
Where is the full cctv footage though whether he is guilty or not ? .on the cctv footage one should be able to see how she was taken by the murderer (in this case Bafana ) if he just attacked her from the back or he came out of the the bushes and strangled her ,how exact did she end up in the bushes does the cctv footage not have that coz that’s the most important part of the cctv footage how she disappeared from the walk way or the track what exactly happened there . Also even if Bafana Panicked about finger prints etc why did he have to wear the ladies T-shirt it’s still not a valid reason for him to want to cover the clothes etc .there is more to this case.
Defence lawyer Neh..aaai
The law is fascinating ..
He is the only person who entered the park. He wanted to rob her but ended up killing
Eish ur reading baba aii khona
😂😂😂
Why did u take her clothe from the start
If Trevor the IT guy can see what Time he walked away from the body wearing her clothes...he should tell us what time he went in following her not just walking out.....
This boy is innocent and it would be awful for the state to charge him guilty where as Senzo Meyiwa's case not closed yet, us black people aren't treated the same for calling cops to murder sinces, I'd run away too.
Xola Benzi's words not Wanda Benzi.
And youd also wear the deceased clothes too neh? Washoke
Ok what about him wearing the deceased clothes??
3:01:33 😢😮😅
What's the reason behind this word by word if not charectre by charecter reading. It makes a circus out of this
The cameras were able to see him come in and throw the clothing in the the drain but the cameras were not able to see him commit the crime. Multiple cameras!!
Yoh this defence 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I am also of view that the poor boy is a psychic. By nature most people are afraid of a cops what more wearing its clothes and smiles in court.
Mara defence, your behavior today is disappointing..
Aiyi defense means business hey...he is going to Walk away this boy
He did whatever they say he did.
You're stupid!!
Am trying to understand but am failing.am confused
This lawyer sounds like he doesn’t know what his doing
Devence Lawyer is like a cat on a hot tin roof. All over the place... How do you live with yourself when you try and defend a murderer. Just a note...there is a public outcry when you let a murderer loose in public. Justice will find him. Watch this space.
Is their job (LLB degree) they chose.
This guy I think he might be a psychopathic killer.. I fail to understand how can you wear deceased cloths?. It against African and human culture.. Maybe he is a psychopathy or drug user. What he did was against the societal norms. In African culture when your relative passed on... u don't use his or her belongings until it has been culturally cleansed.
In South Africa we have human rights. We are not guilty till proven innocent. We are innocent until proven guilty. If this was your brother/sister being accused of murder would you still make such an arrogant and ignorant statements?
Oh yes he is showing off too much mussles. Highly educated kind of. Its too soon for the defence to overreact 😮
Jumping into conclusions will lead us astray, let us wait to see how the case is going to unfold, but until then the suspect is innocent until proven guilty, it is the law and it should apply to everyone in a situation like this one. Nothing that has the prosecution submitted before the court thus far gives us the assumption as to the guilt of the accused
The defence advocate is awful
It seems like the prosecutor is intentionally reading slow so that the there won't enough time to conclude with the matter. He knew he wanted to postpone the bail application then he has time to prepare himself to respond to the defense. He's so pathetic.
Sound??? Or is it just me😭
Yhooooo always there's a problem wth state according documents kanti benza njani ??
Yeses .. they contaminated the whole thing and things are everywhere now.. it needs to go to high court
jus came across this story everyone saying he is innocent i hope you don't have any desire to. be future judges nton nton or we will have lots of convicts walking free, how is he innocent wen he disposed evidence (which is the victims clothes🧐, wat was his motive there,after the scene he went to. the restaurant but never felt any urge to tell someone that there was a dead body 🧐, why do he not use the main gate to exit, who stumbles on a dead body n touches it 🙄, I watch lots of crime documentaries never ever in my life have I seen someone in their tight state touch the body in fact they look. for help, n lastly removing a random dead persons clothes so you not implicated to the crime hayibo we need more smart people than daft people, there's no innocence here n I. hope he rots in jail where he belongs, his attitude is sickening
He is not guilty 😢
I’m not a lawyer! But I’m sure Law is a profession governed by professional code of conduct & there’s nothing professional about letting emotions cloud one.?Also the decision to not submit the CCTV footage 🚩 🚩🚩
.this teacher works near by investigation at school needs Tobe conducted at schools based on relationship amongst educators and promotion it happens this young man find himself crossing fire and still young you can look at him he is so unfortunate
Delta park school is about 4 km from Hurlinghan Manor where George Lea park is.
Also,she was pregnant and not married or engaged ,that is very rare amongst white community,they also need to look into the nature of her romantic relationship if she was not maybe dating a married man .that could also have led us here.
Why is the prosecutor reading like a 10 year old?
Draining me really
Stand your ground prosecutor
That chloroform post on his old Instagram gives another view
What about it?
@@sellolebaka4331 It could be that he used it on her.
Where are the other runners on camera?
She walked cause she was preggies. Others ran. But how did she walk all alone? No one walked with her? 😢
That's a million dollar question
Something doesn't add up
Too many people’s statements are not here ..
A soft boy...what do you mean
That boy did kill that lady
The boy looks innocent, but there must be proof that he is ,we don't want a situation were one being arrested for crime he didn't commit.
He did it
He’s a murder
A case of robbery gone wrong 😢?
They must check the husband.The footage is not make sure.
Does she have a husband?