Trying Out Off Brand Jar Sealers and Hand Pump
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Thanks for reviewing this. This is so cool instead of oxygen absorbers. Should be very useful down here with all this humidity.
Thx Heidi. I have a Seal a Meal sealer and the suction cord works on it also. I just bought the off brand kind and was looking how to use that Lil hand pump. Thx for doing this. As always watching from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦. P.S. I bought mine off of Temu Canada. I paid 18.98 Canadian dollars for it.
This is so funny. I just ordered that same kit a few days ago. It arrived yesterday and I immediately tried it on two jars I had on the counter. You’re right, the vacuum sealer lids are much better than food savers. They come off easily and don’t pull the lid with it. And the hand pump was super easy to use and super effective. Thanks for making this video.
I bought one of these. At first I thought a fitting for the hand pump was missing, but after watching your video I now see how it's supposed to work.
So very happy I decided to search this!! Was about to give up on sealing jars! I ordered the kit and it wasn't working until I tried it your way without the hose. Thank you so much for making this video:)
Heidi, that is Awesome! both my food saver sealers don't work. I will have to buy one of these Heidi. Hey to that handsome grandson Jax, he is being so good, and I love hearing him hum.
Thank you, Heidi. 😃
I LOVE the canister I bought from you at your Etsy shop. I don't even bother using my vacuum sealer to seal jars anymore as I just use the brake bleeder hooked up to your cylinder. I find my vacuum sealer more trouble than it is worth and I get a little arm and hand workout too. Yours puts a much better seal on jars and has sealed 100% of the time.
thanks for sharing...BUT the brake bleeder info you passed on is now how I seal all my dry goods jars - don't even use my foodsaver anymore - Heidi thank you
God Bless you for teaching me this. I couldnt afford the brake bleeder n all. I had watched a video of yours teaching me to get the air out last week.....I didnt know I was supposed to do that. SO THANK YOU
Thank you Heidi:)
I just got mine last week, it came with an extra larger tube about 6 inches. It fits over one end of the tubing and insert the other end in the pump is the only way I found to use it.
Heidi, I purchased this vacuum pump set. I had trouble with the hose hooking up to my Foodsaver, so I just used the hose that came with my Foodsaver and all worked well. It may not have worked because of the operator, but I just took the easy way out. Thank you so much for introducing the hand vacuum pump to us as I could not get the regular size lid to seal with my Foodsaver. I had no trouble with the hand vacuum pump, and was so glad when you showed us how that worked. God bless you for your generosity of sharing your knowledge and hours of research with us. ❤
I bought the generic ones and they work pretty good
I bought that kit also. The pump is the weak link in this system. I ended up buying a break bleeder pump also. I did not have the Food Saver tops or tubing. So it was a good find for me. I put it through 3 long days of use before it broke on me. It was the first days of vacuum sealing of canning jars for me.
Thanks for sharing this. I have been using mine almost daily so far it has not broke and I have had it for about a month now
Thank you! The first link was sold out so I decided to try the second link. I have been wanting/needing something like this, but I'm on a very strict budget. Praying this will work because this is my first year drying herbs that I've grown. Not many, but some mints and mullein.
Thank you again and God bless❤
Thanks for your help and advice! I just finished “canning” 1# egg noodles, 2# rice, 2# kidney beans, 2# navy beans, 4# lentils, 4# sugar, 6# yellow split peas. Not only does my pantry look more organized, I have greater confidence in the safety and freshness of these dry products.
Nice!
This video could not have been more perfectly timed. I had recently bought the very same hand pump vacuum sealer. I tried it thinking that the tube should be used. It didn’t work and I gave up way too soon. I had the sealer all packaged up to send back TODAY. BEFORE GOING TO WORK, I saw this video, clicked on it, retried it using the pump directly on the lid and…Voilà, it works! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
That's amazing!
Sherri! Me too! It's in the drawer because I couldn't get it to seal the jars. My Food Saver has the little oval shaped accessory to seal the reusable zip-lock Food Saver bag, and that shape doesn't work with this type of tube thingy. My daughter has a different model that it will work on so I thought I'd just use hers when I wanted to seal jars. I thought the thing was a piece of crap. Turns out it was an I- D -TEN - T problem. ME! LOL!!!! (IDIOT)
@@marylaborde6151 Agree with the perfect timing-just unboxed mine, thought it was missing a piece. After watching the video and trying it-works like a champ! Thank you!
I love this video! It was so helpful because the paper instructions were not really any help to me & I had a terrible time with it until she explained it & showed how to do it❤️
Yeah, the instructions were pretty lame! haha! Glad you found it helpful :D
I just purchased also as backup if power is out or food saver dies. Ty
I literally ordered that manual pump set from Amazon just minutes before I watched your video. Thank you so much for making me feel better about ordering it.
I ordered this set & love it! Purchased smaller diameter tubing at Lowe's to attach to the pumper that fits inside the larger tube that came with vacuum chamber & brake bleeder.
I did the same and bought the kit for just a back up. I’ve been really impressed with it!
Thanks Heidi!🙂
This is a great idea! Back in the day, I only bought a wide mouth attachment and it doesn't work for beans anymore. Time for a new one and the price is great! Also, for this ol fart, the break bleeder is a bit of a challenge with pints and half-pints (even with an extra can or jar).
Jax was super good! 🥰
Love and blessings! 💜
Received my small vacuum sealer chamber vacuum. Am so very pleased with it. I have received a number of store jars and am going to use them for dry storage to free up some canning jars so I do not have to buy so many. Thank you soo much and may our Father richly bless you both
Heidi, I have wanted a foodsaver for a long time but it's just too expensive. I have been having to dehydrate my herbs and vegetables and just put them in Ziploc bags or jars with a little dry rice to help with humidity. Of course they don't last as long as they should. I just ordered these and it's going to be so helpful, especially when I get to move to my off grid property. Thank you! Texas Deb ❤️🙏
I will never buy another FoodSaver machine, I no longer have need for them and got tired of having them break down every two years and needing to buy another
@@RainCountryHomestead Thank you for your comment. I have been going back and forth on getting thr food saver or not. I saw that little pump with the jar lids yesterday and wondered if that pump worked well. Take you for a very timely review!
The Anova Culinary Precision Vacuum Sealer Pro is the top-rated one in many comparisons I’ve seen. It was FAR cheaper buying directly from them than Amazon, etc. I got it on sale AND another 25% off. It comes with a hose and a roll of bags. I also got free shipping. It was over a $100 less with taxes than buying from Amazon. I paid around $117 total and then got a partial refund for the missing hose after all the back and forth. (Mine arrived without the hose and they said I could send it all back and get a new one. I didn’t bother.)
It works great and you can use it over and over again without it needing cooling off time. You can use various sizes and it has a built-in cutter. They have ready to use bags and the rolls where you can make your own sizes. You can use it one-handed.
FYI: The universal hose adaptor from the Amazon kits will not work with the Anova port. They are too big. I’m trying to find something that will work.
I'm 80 years old and my vacuum sealers aren't working to suck the air out of the jars so I put my belt on it and I suck and seal it with my mouth so if you haven't got a pump that works just suck on the hose don't take 16 lb of pressure it says I guess I have 16 lb of pressure cuz I have no problems ceiling my jars sucking on the holes just thought I'd give you a heads up case all your equipment breaks
Thank you for this tip. I have used it several times now and it works great.
Thank you 🙏 so much Heidi!
I’ve been wanting to start dry canning and now you’ve made that possible with this video! God bless you and yours!
I keep a used lid inside the regular mouth food saver vacuum sealer jar sealers. The rubber still twists.
I have this after food saver wouldn't work.
Thank you for this. I couldn’t figure it out on my own! 🙄🥴
Thank you so much for doing this thorough review which will allow me to save money and have an option I can use as my hands weaken with age :)
I considered it....already had the brake bleeder on the way. Even though my hand hurt afterwards due to arthritis. I now use both hands and it's not so bad. I followed the recommendation of jamming the food saver attachment hose into the brake bleeder hose. It works perfectly. Blessings
Thank you so much, Heidi. I've been wondering if this worked. I still have a Food Saver but it's a bit of a hassle to take out every time I have just one or two jars to seal. This is so much easier. I'm buying the set plus an extra pump for my vacuum chamber I got from your husband. Love your channel and all the wonderful info you share.
This is pretty cool. It’s worth it just to have on hand as a backup. Thanks Heidi! Many Blessings!
I just bought one and got it in only took 3 weeks I can't wait to try it out
The hand pumps work great I still recommend putting in an oxygen absorber before pumping. The price of 100 oxygen absorbers ($8) far surpasses The price of losing valuable grains due to spoilage.
Great video by the way.
God bless
I get that but I have been doing this for many years without an oxygen absorber with no issues. I still see it as a total waste of money to add the O2 absorber but to each their own
My regular food saver has failed just this week and it was the gasket!!!!!
Yep. I have replaced gaskets on my foodsaver machines just to have those go bad in a few months. Just done with them all together
I got this after seeing on your Chanel and love it. The food saver battery doesn’t last and I don’t hear the lids pop when sucking the air out but on this one I do.
I just bought this kit so happy you like it
I've got a brake bleeder pump but also bought one of those little hand pumps that came with 30 of the heavy duty vacuum seal double Ziploc type bags. It was also about $20.. pretty handy
What's your thoughts on the vacuum seal ziplock bags?
That's a Great demo. I have a Foodsaver, that came with an attachment, but it says it's for those bags with the Circle on them, like a 1 way valve thingy, I haven't tried it yet.
TFS RC, & take care everyone. ❤🙂🐶
I must have a different brand of vacuum sealer with the pump, my tops have a square grip which is much easier to get the tops off. It would be nice to get a second pump just in case. They are nice!
Yes, I found those after shooting the video and they are linked in t he description box as well
God is amazing and works through all his children in ways we do not understand. Was just looking at these and now I have information to consider more thoughtfully.
Good morning 😃
Thank You !
Thank you!
Great review
Hi Guys, ...
Did you miss me? AGGHHH!!!!
Been gone from the interweb for over a year! And I wasn't in jail either. Just the joys of the Gulag of Poverty. *sigh*
I was Doneworking and Bendover before that, ... and just a pain, ... But I lost all my passwords and started new.
The new food saver I got has a special hose and the regular hose will not work with it. The special hose breaks the first time you use it and the replacement is $6 plus $24 for delivery.
I bought an old food saver for $10 for vacuuming my jars. It takes any old hose and I'm happy.
I don't know how many brake bleeders I broke and finally is was my hand that was breaking. I did cases.
I was so food secure I took the winter off prepping. The pandemic helped eh?
Mind you I'm back at it.
I found a pump for wine that I can make work
Have a great one.
Good to see you back! Yes, those lame foodsaver hose tips are always breaking. The old ones were made so much better but of course, nothing like planned failures to make more money
@@RainCountryHomestead Profit corrupts all it is applied to.
I was trying to explain to a farmer friend who had just sold a good crop of grains and was pleased to pay off the "operating loan" with lots left over for birthdays, Christmas, etc.
I said all profit is shit, (excuse the rough talk, but we were standing in the stuff) He says "what are you talking about now?
I said you will get another operational loan right?
Yes, ... he says.
And you'll use that loan to provide the profits for everyone in the country in the form of "for profit" fuel, "for profit" electricity, "for profit food, "For profit Gifts for the kids, "for profit" parts and "for profit" wages.
Sure he said, that's the way it works.
So I said, "Look, you sold the grain to the grain elevator for profit, then the elevator sold to the cereal factory for some more profit. Then the factory sold to the wholesalers for another stab at profit, then the wholesaler sold to the retailer to squeeze more profit.
He was "sure, what's wrong with that"?
I said, Well I went to the store bought the cereal and turned all that profit into shit. All profit is shit.
He laughed, ...
I said profit is but a method to concentrate the abundance of our world into the hands and control of the few, the elites, the entitled, and the great winners in a perverted world of win/lose, ... he understood that but didn't like it at all.
So I rubbed it in and said, Only lies need the constant expenditure of your time and energy to exist, ... right Santa?
And profit is a lie needing the constant spending of our time and energy.
He gave up and said, you're crazy, ... and so it goes.
I'm working on a community owned 'Not For Profit" Economic Win/Win based in time alone, backed by the abundance of our world, and built on a foundation of truth and reality. Everything we require can be calculated in the time it takes to produce an exchanged equally for all things "time" produces.
Think "the abundance of our world transformed into the worth and value of our time and energy and kept in circulation for the benefit of all of society, not just the elites, ... this worth and value would be "working" and become "stable"
Stable is as good as it gets in reality. This "stable" worth and value kept working would compound yearly until the future child is born rich instead of a slave to the lie of eternal growth and profit.
Right? you can't get your spent time and energy back in any form except memories and they too die with you. It's only common sense that the worth and value reflect this reality and do the same.
Look at how fast food turns to poop and how slow a well built house rots.
Everything once produced begins to lose value over time. Our worth and value MUST reflect this reality and do the same.
But no one gets it yet and that's OK, ... I'm doing it for the pure innocent potential of future children anyway.
I don't really believe the poor perverted people of the win/lose will make it anyway and that's a good thing because they can't get in the way like they do now.
Oops! I'm ranting again.
But really, I'm "planting" the seeds of Win/Win, ... dirty job but someone has to do it. It's only a paradigm shift from "for profit", to, "Not For Profit". From win/lose to Win/Win.
And it's going to happen. "If I have my way, no child of the future will be born owing the debt of lies and corruption. Born a slave to their ancestors greed and ignorance. No child of the future will grow up to realise that they "serve" their society better as a filthy economic loser than a good and decent person, ... I'm shooting for the moon eh?
I understand why people think I'm crazy but the future will know that the work and the ways of the Win/Win was born of their ancestors filth and failure and not their wisdom or honour.
And that would be ME! the filth and failure part, ... lol
I'm planting the seeds of Win/Win, ... please forgive me my trespass eh?
Have a great one.
Oh my. I purchased a 2nd food saver thinking I was doing something wrong with the reg size.
No, the regular mouth in the foodsaver brand is just not constructed well so it takes a bit more to get it to work. Some people will invert a second canning lid on top of the on on the jar before putting the sealer top on, this helps add more pressure so it seals better
@@RainCountryHomestead I feel so much better knowing this. I was so frustrated, but just dealt a it. I plan to get the kit myself. Thank you so much for sharing. 😊
Hi Heidi 👋
Thank you heaps :) i love to see our Heavenly Father acknowledged.
My wife would love this as she's getting into lots of things like this.
I looked at the second link to purchase the jar sealer and accessory hose kit.
Do you have to buy the bands you mentioned separately?
The bands for the canning jars typically come with the canning jars, if that is what you mean, but the kit only has a few lids, no bands
@@RainCountryHomestead oh ok, yeah that's what I'm asking. Any suggestions on canning jars please?
Ty
Good morning Heidi- I have a similar version, with no brand name on the box. My tops do have the extended handle, like the Food Saver tops, so your viewers may want to search that configuration on Amazon. It works great, however the regular mouth gasket does not extend past the cover. I have a Food Saver, but wanted this for camping and also if we lost power. In my opinion it was worth the $20.00 and is made in China. This is coming in handy so I don't have to haul out my Food Saver to reseal my jars of oatmeal and herbs. Thanks for this video. Good to hear your evaluation.
Yes, I just came across this one yesterday: amzn.to/3z2jGdd
I also added the link to that kit in the description box
Thank You Mrs Heidi.... I think I'm going to get one... I currently use the brake bleeder method... Per your advice 😃😃.... God Bless you and your family from middle GA 🙏 Kendra. Jackson was such a Good Baby😉😉🤗🤗🤗
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! I just vacuum sealed 2 pint jars of raw egg powder and 1 pint of dehydrated hanger steak strips.
I picked up 10 doz eggs from Amish today. All the cleaner ones will be water glassed (forgot which gentleman I learned that from on TH-cam) and the rest will be dehydrated to make more raw powder.
I didn’t get the brand of vac sealer you linked to as the one I got had a bit better reviews. The regular size that I used tonight sealed up very nicely. I added 2 small moisture absorbers to each jar just in case. I don’t want to lose the time or money by being careless and I figure it’s a cheap enough thing to add as an extra measure.
Ty Heidi! This is great as I've also seen it on other's videos also with great reviews so I'm going to order this right now even tho I have the food savers & brake bleeder as I trust you the most and having arthritis issues I need the easiest & lightweight things out there. One question.... Either I didn't catch you correctly cuz you were talking kinda fast for me or I misunderstood...... I heard you say that kit also came with a few metal lids & not good for canning but did you also say that those lids won't work to vacuum seal? If so.... Wondering why they would even bother sending them. ???
I would not use them because they are just cheap Chinese made lids that are not made well so I would not use them for canning myself.
ON a side note in reference to me talking too fast, you can always slow down the video speed and I explain how in this video: th-cam.com/video/nRjpE1xQwAo/w-d-xo.html
If I miss something or Heidi is talking fast i listen to it over again.
I did... Several times
Ty & especially for how to slow it down... Never knew that could be done so much appreciated. I don't do canning... Just dehydrating so I wondered why not being able to use those but got my answer when I ordered it which stated that they were just "testers"....so that explains that.
Filming while the grand baby is there would be like trying to herd cats
😂 he did so well though (more like only one cat😁)
haha! Yes, I was surprised he played so well but he is getting better at entertaining himself for long stretches so I just might do more like this :D
With the plastic vacuum pump, I found that the cross-piece at the end of the pump shaft was the weak point, both the handle and the plastic pin that holds it in place. When those broke, I bought a short section of one inch wooden dowel, drilled holes in the dowel for the pump shaft, and a carefully selected screw that fit neatly through the remaining mounting pin hole. after sanding, the dowel's a more comfortable fit for my hand, and lets me exert strength more confidently when pulling a vacuum with the pump.
When the first pump failed, I purchased the same style and immediately put the dowel on in place of the existing handle. It's been working fine for me for about 3 years. I've found them bundled with vacuum food bags, which are also very nice to have, and often work repeatedly.
I bought this after seeing this video and I love it!! Thank you♥️❤️
Oh I'm so glad you showed the process. I just bought this little kit and couldn't figure out the tubing part so wasn't getting a good seal. With the addition of adding an inverted lid I can finally handpump these dry goods closed. Thanks!
Thank you..went backward on tis one, bought it and ten watched your video...still, now i know that it was a good buy....thank you so much
Thanks for adding the link! I have seen a few different off brand options. This one looks like the best deal! Showing $18.99 today! 7/22/22
I just ordered the hand pump. Thank you so much. I love your channel. Thank you for all the information that you provide
Thank you, Heidi, I'm trying to understand mine. It sealed the first four jars and then...no more. Love (tTt)
God bless you 🙏. I love that you do all this while leading a normal life. Having your grandson right there yet you stay so calm...awesome 👏👏👏👏. Love you girl ❤️. Thank you.
Excellent video Heidi ! I've used the rechargeable foodsaver handheld for yrs but I'm on my 2nd one and the battery eventually doesn't hold a charge very long. I might use it for days, several times, I can go 6 mos and not use it (not good for rechargeable batteries). I'm so done with rechargeable vacuum sealers, they're easier but...........was looking to see if there were any reviews on a hand pump. I trust your opinion and I just ordered. FYI to anyone reading this, one of her links leads to a set that is only $9.99.
Very cool. Thank y'all. Blessings, julie
This is good to know,and very impressive! Thank ,Heidi. I think I may purchase it, based on your review.
Will the off brand set work with the spaghetti type lids?
It depends on the mouth size. Sealers like this, even the foodsaver brand, are made to go with regular or wide mouth mason jars only, If the recycled jar just happens to have one of those two mouth sizes, yes it will work, otherwise you need to use the chamber I showed in the video or something like it
Sometimes you can use a silicon ring that sits on ridge beneath opening of jars. The food savor fits over the lid & rests on the ring. This enables you to than seal the jar. The instant coffee jars I buy work this way.
A tip to make the sealing easier. Go to the hardware store and get a short length of 1/4" OD flexible clear tubing. It is sold by the foot. Insert the white Food Saver fittings onto the kit tube. Insert one of the white fittings tightly inside the 1/4"OD tube. Insert the other end of the 1/4"OD piece of tube into the hand pump hole and leave it in place permanently. The white plastic Food Saver fitting can be inserted into the regular and wide mouth sealer lids. Sure makes it a lot easier than having to push down tightly on the hand pump to sealer top.
Thank you for sharing this! I just ordered my kit and am excited to add it to my collection. You just never know when you will be without electricity and need to have something you can still use in that case.
I ordered this sealer yesterday and just happened on this video. Thank you for the good instruction.
Thank you for this video! I have a Brake bleeder but I found it very hard on my wrist even when I do it the way suggested (using a hard surface when I pump ) This little pump may be the answer! 😊👍
I have that setup with that little hand pump. Tried it 3 times, earlier today really spent sone time on it. Nothing worked. Then tried like you did with no hoses and that was it. Thank you. I was ready to throw it in the garbage.
I bought one of these kits it arrived today. Thank you for your review majes me more confident to use it. X
Thank you, just ordered it. 😁😁😁😁😁
Oh my...last night I finally ordered a break bleeder and the lids. One day and I could have gotten this! Lol
Thank you for all your honest reviews I really appreciate you and your wisdom.
Thank you for this review! I have the Food Saver products but the hose that came with the kit does not fit snugly into the Food Saver unit. I did not want to go through the hassle of a return, and have been searching for a hand held that I can seal jars with. I think this will work great. I appreciate the information you share on your channel.
Thank you for showing us how to use that. Mine came with no instructions and i never used one before. I ended up using the hose attachment in the jar and just sticking the hose into the pump and wrapping plastic wrap around the hose and pump to make a seal. I mean it worked, but now I feel so silly, so thank you...lol
So, you vacuum seal your cooked meat vs pressure can? That would save time.
Only the fully dried meats, if they are not dried, I pressure can them. This method is not acceptable for meats that have not been dried fully
@@RainCountryHomestead okay, that was the part I missed. I have not dehydrated meat yet. I appreciate the clarity.
Enjoy quality Jackson time 🌻
Thanks, Heidi. I am so happy to know about this. I have sure struggled with the Food Saver method to seal my jars.
Thank you for this review. I was curious about that product for the pump also.
Hi thank you for all your help I appreciate you. Do you have a recipe book that I could buy? I'm especially interested in recipes for Tinctures, vinegar, shampoo's, things of that nature. Blessings and love to you and your family!
Sorry, no book and no time to write one but some of my recipes I have had time to write down when I am able are posted here for all to see at no cost just scroll down past where it says anything about donations and ignore that and then do a search for recipes: www.patreon.com/raincountryhomestead
For example, here is one on my most current pain remedy extract: www.patreon.com/posts/natural-remedy-66335589
@@RainCountryHomestead Thank you so much!
Nice! I have the brake bleeder and didn't have the bucks to buy the chambers yet. I also have the Food Saver tops even though I have a sealer that's not a food saver, but the food saver tops seem work with my sealer; I lucked out on that one. I think I'll get that package with the little pump and see how it goes. Great video with really good tips! Blessings all 🥰
Enjoyed it a lot! Thanks for the tips! 👍👍👍👍
I am so happy I came across this. I was looking for something like this!
Thanks Heidi for sharing this information, I thank it will be a great addition to have. Your grandson was sooooo good, he’s also adorable 🥰 God bless your family🙏
Have you tried the tank brake bleeder? I despise the small pumps and it kills my hands. The tank pumps like a sprayer??
Any christians in TX? Would love to connect!
I bought this set and I love it. I do have trouble with the pump tho. But I also have trouble with my brake bleeder. I love the sealer tops and think they are much better than the ones from food saver. I had bought two sets of the food saver ones and keep having major issue with them not sealing. I had given up trying to seal my dehydrated goods until now.
Good morning from Florida 🌴🌺🐊🪸🐠🌊⚡️🌀🚀😎
Thanks for the demo. I haven’t bought one yet due to prices so this would be affordable for me.
Thanks Heidi. I just ordered one. It looks so much easier for me having arthritis then the brake bleeding.
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
The link you posted said it's sold out already. :( Thank you for the info. I hope it eventually comes back in stock.
Try the other link I shared for the one that had handles more like the foodsaver tops
I will. Thank you.
I got this exact set about a month or so ago, havent used it yet. Im happy that itll work though. Im about to start using it alot so this video came in super handy for me.
I have Virginia stickied growing in my yard is there any uses for them.
Thank you so much for your video, I had purchase the no name sealer and had no clue how to use it!
Thanks so much for the alternative