@@17thN.Oissue is if a team gets a first year player, they pay less for the minnimum salary. Fultz has been in the league for years, so each year played, the minnimum salary is higher for the team. Plus teams would rather get a younger player that has a shot of improving, fultz is certified to not be able to shoot, no more improving.
Ben Simmons only in the league b/c he is still owed that big contract at his young age so he is worth the try. After this season Simmons is gone. Fultz is a classic bum tho. A guard who can't hit a three is useless in the NBA nowadays. Even a player like Tony Parker in this generation would be subpar
@@lukesmith9692MCW won rookie of the year and was traded after his second year. That was one of the tatics of the process, drafting a lottery pick, have him stuff the stat sheet and then trade him for multiple draft picks.
@ Good points, but you’re forgetting one thing. Simmons is going through great lengths and providing every excuse in the world to not even step foot on the court. I rather spend $11-$17 mil on one trying to get on the court to prove his worth than $30-$40 mil on the other trying to avoid playing at all.
I thought I was the only that remembered this bro. He got randomly injured in summer league I think his ankle or Something then just completely forgot how to shoot the next time we saw him . Bro was a dog in college. Was actually mad af at the time that my Celtics didn’t take him #1 and traded down instead
@@rootofalleviHe could make every shot in college. He’s probably got nerve damage in his shoulder from an injury he concealed. Rumor is it was a motorcycle accident shortly after the draft.
At this stage, it's honestly his injury history over the last 2 seasons with Orlando being competitive he showed that he could play as a 6th man/spot starter but hes been injured to much and never able to be consistent I don't blame teams not signing him if his cap is 30 plus games a season
As a 6ers fan all they needed was a Wing that could score and shoot threes at a descent clip and was long and that roster would have been dominating the East. and they passed on Tatum to get Fultz, not to mention the 6ers already had Simmons!
Bro mike James went overseas became a legend same as Shane Larkin he can go play win a ship and be right back in the league in two years he gotta get his confidence back going overseas may shift his whole perspective and put him back in that elite status he had coming outta college! Look at Nunn
As a Sixers fan going through "The Process" era, it’s only fitting that one of their lottery picks is still on the team and he has never played a full season and never will..
I'm surprised after all this time that you haven't done one on Jordan Hill. Averaged a Double-Double during his junior year as a Arizona Wildcat, got picked 8th overall and didn't really do much in the NBA until he was a starter for those 2013 - 2015 LA Lakers teams. Even then his starting Laker years weren't anything eventful.
@AggravatedMan365 I have literally never heard in my life Jordan Hill be referred to as just "That dude that got drafted after Steph". Nobody even brings that up or cares about that lol.
Thank you! I told my brothers he’d be a bust as a #1 pick. He definitely should have been drafted lower. Then he shot 60% from the FT in college (this is an important stat ppl overlook)…never understood his hype.
B Roy was always overrated , Greg oden and D rose got it rough , grant hill never developed an outside shot , penny rushed back from injury for the ASG and fultz got in a motorcycle accident which he tried to hide due to a contract
@ your Brandon Roy overrated is silly. He killed Kobe which most guys don’t do. G hill did develop a shot with the suns. This is how I know your born in 02’. Maybe only the fultz thing you got right but even that I doubt cuz it would have gotten out. You failed
@@nicholass7563 a lot of players killed Kobe , glen rice , sprewell , Allan Houston , nick the quick , Dwade , Lebron , Steve Nash , Paul Pierce , Carmelo Anthony , pre injury Ray Allen , Iverson , rip Hamilton…….
Life long Sixers fan here. I always felt that thr Fultz Hype was actually ANTI Lonzo Ball hype. If you remember Lavar Ball (Lonzo's dad) was talking up his son alot and pissing people in the media off. I feel like Fultz started getting talked up more by the media to try to Hurt Lonzo being picked #1 to hurt Lavar. ALSO... what nobody mentions anymore but was noted at the time was a strange story about his Mom or Grandma having cameras installed inside their house... almost like he was being psychologically abused by his family and kept in the house by them. Anybody else remember that story?
He got talked up because he averaged 23/6/6 in college and was good at everything, including 3pt shooting which he is awful at now. He got injured riding a motorcycle, probably had some sort of permanent nerve damage, and his jumper was never the same.
@@kevinc8955yup that's the story I go with and makes the most sense to me he injured himself ridin a motorcycle him and his team his it to avoid gettin his contract voided and he was simply never able to recover physically
I hate what happen to him. Never had any hate calling bust or anything. Just blew my mind an injury can completely kill your form & jump shot the way it did. Seeing him in Washington be so silky smooth & change so dramatically gotta be one of the biggest “what if” stories of the NBA. Definitely hope to see him get picked up by a team this season
If my Lakers trade D-Lo this year I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Fultz & have him & Quincy Olivari battle it out for the starting pg spot. I like both of their games
Something or somebody got into his head and it forced him to avoid the spotlight and the star role. You don't just forget how to shoot jump shots fluidly.
The fultz tragedy hurts me man. This dude was so amazing in college, on the U17 Olympic team, & in the nba summer league. Then he shows up at Sixers camp & can’t shoot… craziest sports mystery ever.
They were never going to get Tatum(Sixers) the Celtics were going to draft him and only traded because the Sixers wanted Fulz. So it's pointless to wonder. The only way it could have happened is if they lied to the Celtics and drafted him which would kills the Sixers reputation and make gm's not want to work with them.
Next Do former Duke Swingman Chris carrawell ? Rod grizzard? Mark Armstrong? Vernon Carey jr? Sam Dekker? Tako fall? Bill Walker? Sindaruis Thornwell? Edmond Sumner? Thon maker? Check diallo? Glen Rice jr? Glenn Robinson III? Russ Smith? Ace Custis
Surely he'd take a one year minimum at this stage and surely The Lakers should pay it? They literally have no bench right now. You'd take Markelle over Gabe Vincent. Damn he'd probably be putting pressure on a starting spot ahead of DLo within two weeks.
I don’t understand HOW my team got dealt Trash Players back to back!!!!! Simmons and Fultz !! Both seemed to Turtle up when they were criticized by coaches!! Fultz at least had a TRUE injury unlike Simmons!!!!! Hopefully he doesn’t BLOW through his paper with Family & Leaches that he THINKS are True Friends!!! I have a feeling he will 🙃🙃🙃🙃😑
Brett brown ruined alot of 1# picks with tremendous potential. They came into the game with a reliable jump shot and left brown not knowing how to shoot.
@ he had a promising rookie year, the year after that Luka got drafted, originally Luka was playing the 2 guard, Dallas wanted him to have the ball more in his hands, DSJ and him didn’t fit, so they traded him to the Knicks and his play fell because he couldn’t be a ball dominant guard anymore and his shot was iffy. It’s circumstances, but if Luka was willing to play more off ball, DSJ probably would be a totally different player
@@seanlamar29 There was nothing hindsight about that decision. Ainge took advantage of Colangelo wanting to make a huge splash and the idiot traded up for the guy. There was no clear #1 pick. There was like 6-7 people who had a shot at being the #1 pick that year. It was a needs draft. Ainge found his guy and literally would have drafted him #1 if nobody traded for the pick. Colangelo could have and should have stayed at the #3 pick. Instead, he traded up for the #1 pick for a guy that could have went 4th or 5th and gave up a #1 pick in the process. Colangelo's father looked out for his son and got him that job after Hinkie destroyed the teams reputation. he should have never been given the keys to the org.
Faultz was the number one pick by accident or deception. The Celtics had the first pick and they suckered the Sixers into trading for it and the Sixers took Faultz. Danny Ainge was always going to take Tatum with the 3rd. If he didn't know this would happen he would have taken Tatum with the first pick anyway. But Faultz just never found a role on the court. Playmaker, shoter, defender? He wasn't particularly good at anything add to that his deadpan demeanor and , it seems, mental health issues he was neved going to make it in the league. Seems like a good young man and I wish him well.
Who cares about the NBA anymore? It’s dead. I’d rather watch the WNBA. They’re more physical., just a bunch of spoil Rich no class selfish nepotism and it goes on and on NBA hasn’t been any good since the early 90s
Did yall do one on #1 pick ANTHONY BENNETT? I’ll never get over the CAVS goofy ass GM at the time comparing BENNETT to LARRY JOHNSON coming out of college 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡The CAVS even passed on ANTETOKUOMPO for BENNETT🤡 #gmgotfired
I still think he could be a serviceable player in the league, cause if Ben Simmons can... so can he. Still can't believe no team has signed him yet.
So do I. I'm not sure why he wasn't picked up by a team. Not to mention there are not 450 players in the NBA better than him.
@@17thN.Oissue is if a team gets a first year player, they pay less for the minnimum salary. Fultz has been in the league for years, so each year played, the minnimum salary is higher for the team. Plus teams would rather get a younger player that has a shot of improving, fultz is certified to not be able to shoot, no more improving.
What team do you think should sign him?
JC, who was better in college? Markelle Fultz or Jason Williams (Duke)?
Ben Simmons only in the league b/c he is still owed that big contract at his young age so he is worth the try. After this season Simmons is gone. Fultz is a classic bum tho. A guard who can't hit a three is useless in the NBA nowadays. Even a player like Tony Parker in this generation would be subpar
Nerlens Noel, jhalil Okafor, Ben Simmons, and Markelle Fultz....man Philly blew the process
Saric, MCW and others
Michael Carter-Williams…..you’re welcome
They said "TRUST THE PROCESS" when they really meant "TRUST DEEZ NUTZ"
Fumbled the chip right to Boston. What a let down. Worst scouts and worst medical team in the league
@@lukesmith9692MCW won rookie of the year and was traded after his second year. That was one of the tatics of the process, drafting a lottery pick, have him stuff the stat sheet and then trade him for multiple draft picks.
I’d still take Fultz over Simmons.
Easily. At least we know he wants to play. Simmons is just big & heartless
I will take Simmons. At least Simmons can guard 1-5:at a above average rate. They both bring nothin on offense but Simmons is at least 6"10
@ Good points, but you’re forgetting one thing. Simmons is going through great lengths and providing every excuse in the world to not even step foot on the court. I rather spend $11-$17 mil on one trying to get on the court to prove his worth than $30-$40 mil on the other trying to avoid playing at all.
Facts bro this shit crazy
I’d take Michael Carter Williams and of course Jrue… Fck it I’ll take Evan turner over him frfr.
He is only 26. He still can realize his potential
He’s shot was smooth when he played summer league his rookie year. To lose it a couple of months before the season started is wild
I thought I was the only that remembered this bro. He got randomly injured in summer league I think his ankle or
Something then just completely forgot how to shoot the next time we saw him . Bro was a dog in college. Was actually mad af at the time that my Celtics didn’t take him #1 and traded down instead
@@jrcrashin4575motorcycle injury actually was fultz downfall
This is a sad basketball story. I'm a big fan of his and it's depressing seeing him go out like this due to injury with all that talent 🏀
What talent? He couldn't shoot past 15ft and was double hitching his freethrows
@@rootofalleviHe could make every shot in college. He’s probably got nerve damage in his shoulder from an injury he concealed. Rumor is it was a motorcycle accident shortly after the draft.
Man I love listening to the Melodies, in the background every time I mesh play😂
What's the name of it?
At this stage, it's honestly his injury history over the last 2 seasons with Orlando being competitive he showed that he could play as a 6th man/spot starter but hes been injured to much and never able to be consistent
I don't blame teams not signing him if his cap is 30 plus games a season
Shaq is right. The current NBA is mostly unwatchable. Guys jacking up 3s is not my idea of entertainment.
The nba is more than just jacking up 3s.
Yeah I can’t watch most teams nowadays. It’s like the midrange doesn’t exist to NBA players
@@gopats7187cap
3:09 JC I can’t watch the rest man 😢😢😢 I don’t think he’s done just yet.
Damn Markelle 🤦🏾♂️
As a 6ers fan all they needed was a Wing that could score and shoot threes at a descent clip and was long and that roster would have been dominating the East. and they passed on Tatum to get Fultz, not to mention the 6ers already had Simmons!
Simmons was never a true pg. Fultz to this present day is still considered a pg
Facts
Facts
Bro mike James went overseas became a legend same as Shane Larkin he can go play win a ship and be right back in the league in two years he gotta get his confidence back going overseas may shift his whole perspective and put him back in that elite status he had coming outta college! Look at Nunn
As a Sixers fan going through "The Process" era, it’s only fitting that one of their lottery picks is still on the team and he has never played a full season and never will..
I actually like what he brought to Orlando. Atleast he got a good salary if he never plays again.
He stunk! They were trying to play him over Cole Anthony which was foolish.
@@Hooderaw no, he looked great
Orlando was at its best when Fultz was at the point
@rupertgordonii6623 the nba gm's disagree, hence why he's not on a roster.
I'm surprised after all this time that you haven't done one on Jordan Hill.
Averaged a Double-Double during his junior year as a Arizona Wildcat, got picked 8th overall and didn't really do much in the NBA until he was a starter for those 2013 - 2015 LA Lakers teams.
Even then his starting Laker years weren't anything eventful.
Damn shocked to see you here was gud ni99a
He'll always be known as the guy that got picked after Steph
@AggravatedMan365 I have literally never heard in my life Jordan Hill be referred to as just "That dude that got drafted after Steph".
Nobody even brings that up or cares about that lol.
@@AmiriHipHop I have. The knicks settled for him once the Warriors picked Curry. He was a bum in the league.
Thanks for this one; requesting now one on Amile Jefferson, Fultz's former ORL teammate.
Ben Simmons deserves to be OUT OF THE LEAGUE not Markelle Fultz
They both suck. Stop the 🧢
No way he should have been the #1 pick. I saw him at Washington & was not impressed
Lay off the drugs
Thank you! I told my brothers he’d be a bust as a #1 pick. He definitely should have been drafted lower. Then he shot 60% from the FT in college (this is an important stat ppl overlook)…never understood his hype.
He was truly my favorite up coming pg man. The league messed him up man.
The league messed him up? 😂
@@AggravatedMan365 he got to the NBA and the trainers wanted to change his shot mechanics so YES!!!!!!! The league. Go watch him in college
@@AggravatedMan365 even during his summer league games he was shooting very well. Just go watch some games.
The mystery of his jumpshot is crazy. Brandon Roy, Greg oden, d rose, fultz, penny, G hill. The unsolved mystery files what could have been files
B Roy was always overrated , Greg oden and D rose got it rough , grant hill never developed an outside shot , penny rushed back from injury for the ASG and fultz got in a motorcycle accident which he tried to hide due to a contract
@ your Brandon Roy overrated is silly. He killed Kobe which most guys don’t do. G hill did develop a shot with the suns. This is how I know your born in 02’. Maybe only the fultz thing you got right but even that I doubt cuz it would have gotten out. You failed
@@andresdelportillo9917b roy was overrated to you, everyone knew he was an all time great
@ all time great ? Bro only averaged 22 ppg at his peak , the following year his numbers dropped and this was before the injury 😂
@@nicholass7563 a lot of players killed Kobe , glen rice , sprewell , Allan Houston , nick the quick , Dwade , Lebron , Steve Nash , Paul Pierce , Carmelo Anthony , pre injury Ray Allen , Iverson , rip Hamilton…….
One of my favorite freshmen of all time. You gotta do Dennis smith Jr next another lottery pick in 2017 that was looking like a superstar
Nice episode n u dropped it early today!!!! 🔥🏀🔥
Bro will you do one on Harrison Barnes? He's the only high school player ive seen #1 in some rankings from the hawkeye state
He’s still in the league and doing well buddy smh.
I wish he was good but them injuries
I agree man, this college games were crazy. Just sucks that injuries barred him.
Life long Sixers fan here. I always felt that thr Fultz Hype was actually ANTI Lonzo Ball hype. If you remember Lavar Ball (Lonzo's dad) was talking up his son alot and pissing people in the media off. I feel like Fultz started getting talked up more by the media to try to Hurt Lonzo being picked #1 to hurt Lavar.
ALSO... what nobody mentions anymore but was noted at the time was a strange story about his Mom or Grandma having cameras installed inside their house... almost like he was being psychologically abused by his family and kept in the house by them. Anybody else remember that story?
He got talked up because he averaged 23/6/6 in college and was good at everything, including 3pt shooting which he is awful at now.
He got injured riding a motorcycle, probably had some sort of permanent nerve damage, and his jumper was never the same.
@@kevinc8955yup that's the story I go with and makes the most sense to me he injured himself ridin a motorcycle him and his team his it to avoid gettin his contract voided and he was simply never able to recover physically
Can I have whatever you’re smoking?
I hate what happen to him. Never had any hate calling bust or anything. Just blew my mind an injury can completely kill your form & jump shot the way it did. Seeing him in Washington be so silky smooth & change so dramatically gotta be one of the biggest “what if” stories of the NBA. Definitely hope to see him get picked up by a team this season
Do a vid on Justin Patton and Rashad Vaughn
If my Lakers trade D-Lo this year I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Fultz & have him & Quincy Olivari battle it out for the starting pg spot. I like both of their games
Something or somebody got into his head and it forced him to avoid the spotlight and the star role. You don't just forget how to shoot jump shots fluidly.
agree, I think he was playing too freely and was to good to be controlled by the nba
But Ben got a job that’s wild
The fultz tragedy hurts me man. This dude was so amazing in college, on the U17 Olympic team, & in the nba summer league. Then he shows up at Sixers camp & can’t shoot… craziest sports mystery ever.
What About Elfrid Payton ?
He looked like he'd be the goat combo guard coming out of college
The process over
I feel so bad for him , he should still be playing . I hope he’s still trying to fix his jumper to what it was in college
This one hurts. Hopefully wont have to see a stunted growth with zo2 and mentions of missing out on drafting TaBum
@ngm3000 Tatum is very overhyped by Celtic fans. Zo still young enough to be a perennial all star.
His career in the league went so sad man 😞 he looked like he was supposed to be legendary, his game was flawless
100mill he good
They were never going to get Tatum(Sixers) the Celtics were going to draft him and only traded because the Sixers wanted Fulz. So it's pointless to wonder. The only way it could have happened is if they lied to the Celtics and drafted him which would kills the Sixers reputation and make gm's not want to work with them.
Definitely capped. He's a serviceable PG who still can't reliably shoot
Oh,the game will change again. There’s no such thing as “ forever” when it comes to playing style in the NBA
This kid really won 🤑🤑🤑
Stunt number one going to Kentucky. Oh wait!
You gotta do Pat Bev
Next Do former Duke Swingman Chris carrawell ? Rod grizzard? Mark Armstrong? Vernon Carey jr? Sam Dekker? Tako fall? Bill Walker? Sindaruis Thornwell? Edmond Sumner? Thon maker? Check diallo? Glen Rice jr? Glenn Robinson III? Russ Smith? Ace Custis
idk bout this one. MARKELLE had it out for em since the stunt with the 6ers
I believe Markelle has been offered opportunities in the league but they probably involved him going to the G-League, a small role or minimum money.
Surely he'd take a one year minimum at this stage and surely The Lakers should pay it? They literally have no bench right now. You'd take Markelle over Gabe Vincent. Damn he'd probably be putting pressure on a starting spot ahead of DLo within two weeks.
i miss the dark NBA stories
he was my favorite player when he was in college .smh
I don’t understand HOW my team got dealt Trash Players back to back!!!!! Simmons and Fultz !! Both seemed to Turtle up when they were criticized by coaches!! Fultz at least had a TRUE injury unlike Simmons!!!!! Hopefully he doesn’t BLOW through his paper with Family & Leaches that he THINKS are True Friends!!! I have a feeling he will 🙃🙃🙃🙃😑
He shouldn’t be out of the league
Do DOUG MCDERMOTT
lakers should give him a chance lord knows he’s better than what we got
Once they made him change his shot after killing college killed his future and confidence im sure
Lakers should give him a chance
Sixers should have taken Tatum. I was the only one in Philly telling everyone that.
The Lakers better make that call.
Hell no
Brett brown ruined alot of 1# picks with tremendous potential. They came into the game with a reliable jump shot and left brown not knowing how to shoot.
"I pray for Markelle Cause they fucked up his shot."
He should've stuck with the magic
He took his chance
He will rebound and become a solid role player in a few years.
He should be in Brooklyn
He still a good playmaker driver decent 6th man type he not a shooter but i dont think U need to be one imo
I think he got into his own head.
Injuries is his biggedt downfall...man when he was healthy he was blur
I serious doubt he was injured when he played for the sixers. he lost his confidence. Even his shooting coach said he had the yips.
Still taking him and DSJ over some guards that’s in the league right now. The talent and potential is there for both, just unlucky circumstances.
Over Mitchell?
@seanlamar29 nah not Davion but over Gabe Vincent, Dinwiddie, Brogdon, Ben Simmons, Scoot, Etc
Luka Doncic ruined DSJ career
@@brrazzy8417 how
@ he had a promising rookie year, the year after that Luka got drafted, originally Luka was playing the 2 guard, Dallas wanted him to have the ball more in his hands, DSJ and him didn’t fit, so they traded him to the Knicks and his play fell because he couldn’t be a ball dominant guard anymore and his shot was iffy. It’s circumstances, but if Luka was willing to play more off ball, DSJ probably would be a totally different player
I never saw wtf was the big deal with dude in the first place,he looked really soft to me.
For a big guard he’s bad on defense. That would’ve kept him in the league
Sixers built up too much bad juju for the whole Trust the Process era. Bad teams and tons of unhappy fans = bad karma
You blame him for his motorcycle accident
Im So disappointed to see him here
Dude kissed his mom on the lips when he got drafted wtf 😬
Thought I was trippin when I saw that shit
I believe Markelle Fultz was in motorcycle accident. Jay Williams also.
Very athletic but his jump shot is terrible. Similar to Michael Kidd Gilcrist (Kentucky )
Didn’t Stephan a smith suggest mental issues or something he said he’s not mentioning?
They fumbled Tatum badly lol
Hindsight
@@seanlamar29 There was nothing hindsight about that decision. Ainge took advantage of Colangelo wanting to make a huge splash and the idiot traded up for the guy. There was no clear #1 pick. There was like 6-7 people who had a shot at being the #1 pick that year. It was a needs draft. Ainge found his guy and literally would have drafted him #1 if nobody traded for the pick. Colangelo could have and should have stayed at the #3 pick. Instead, he traded up for the #1 pick for a guy that could have went 4th or 5th and gave up a #1 pick in the process. Colangelo's father looked out for his son and got him that job after Hinkie destroyed the teams reputation. he should have never been given the keys to the org.
@@Hooderaw yep people thought it could even be Josh Jackson lol but the lakers didn’t work Tatum out at all either lol just bad scouting
Jesus Christ is All Powerful and Limitless!!’❤
Sad
He just cant get healthy thats the problem
Faultz was the number one pick by accident or deception. The Celtics had the first pick and they suckered the Sixers into trading for it and the Sixers took Faultz. Danny Ainge was always going to take Tatum with the 3rd. If he didn't know this would happen he would have taken Tatum with the first pick anyway. But Faultz just never found a role on the court. Playmaker, shoter, defender? He wasn't particularly good at anything add to that his deadpan demeanor and , it seems, mental health issues he was neved going to make it in the league. Seems like a good young man and I wish him well.
Who cares about the NBA anymore? It’s dead. I’d rather watch the WNBA. They’re more physical., just a bunch of spoil Rich no class selfish nepotism and it goes on and on NBA hasn’t been any good since the early 90s
Markelle Fultz > Overrated Wemby 🤷🏻♀️
Stop
Buddy made 50million wtf cares what we think he rich and young and full of life
Did yall do one on #1 pick ANTHONY BENNETT? I’ll never get over the CAVS goofy ass GM at the time comparing BENNETT to LARRY JOHNSON coming out of college 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡The CAVS even passed on ANTETOKUOMPO for BENNETT🤡 #gmgotfired