RANCID 2000 - Their Worst Album... So Why Is It So Popular?

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  • In this clip, Rob and I are talking about how we don't really like the RANCID 2000 album, and why. Although we have a very unpopular opinion! Lol
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  • @danevertt3210
    @danevertt3210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    2000 is there best album
    Crazy talk

  • @HorrorEpics82
    @HorrorEpics82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My favorite album by them and one of the best street punk albums period!

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Terrible album, sounds like a bunch of dudes trying to be as punk as they can be, so people don't make fun of them anymore. It reeks of insecurity. At least that's how I hear it. But I have context of when it came out and then previous 3 records they had made. The 2 or 3 songs that are good, are very good, though. It just felt like such an unnatural progression from them, maybe that's what it is I don't like about it.... 🤷🏻 makes for a fun talk regardless, I don't get bothered that folks like it. I've always had the unpopular opinion on this album, lol

  • @Jonathan138
    @Jonathan138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Another no skip by Rancid! From the artwork to the raw energy I love everything about this album 🔥

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only 2 songs worth listening to on this record. Terrible vocals, bad production, it's sooo hard to sit through

    • @mr.skinskull3148
      @mr.skinskull3148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thepunkrockreviewyou get your opinion, it's wrong, but you are allowed.

  • @TheVinylDen
    @TheVinylDen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I totally understand why Rancid wanted to go in a different direction with S/T 2000, but it just doesn’t work for me. I was very disappointed with it when it was released, but it has grown on me a little over the years. It’s still my least favorite album of theirs though.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. This is correct. Lol 👊

  • @thevirtualjonathan1284
    @thevirtualjonathan1284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    a friend of mine described it as "if rancid tried to make hardcore while ignoring hardcore actually existing." i personally prefer it to some of the more deliberate clash rip off albums.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a good description actually, lol.
      RANCID > The Clash by a LOT

  • @jerrywasfunny
    @jerrywasfunny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve always thought this. My buddies in high school always thought I was a fucking idiot. It was their favorite. I just never got the Rancid vibe on this album.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% agree, it should have been released under a different name imo. But it's a fun topic for the channel. I knew I'd get flamed for it though, lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @stevedevotion7311
    @stevedevotion7311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way. rancid is my favorite band, but no matter how much i try, i can't like this album. the only thing memorable about it is how forgettable it is.

  • @GorillaBiscuit89
    @GorillaBiscuit89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i love that album, got me into punk - my favourite after wolves and their debut

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What are your tops songs off the album?

    • @GorillaBiscuit89
      @GorillaBiscuit89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its Quite Alright, Rwanda, Radio Havanna, Meteor Of War, Dead Bodies, GGF

  • @richardarnold5279
    @richardarnold5279 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't think it's their worst, but I wouldn't put it in their top 3. Even top 4. I think a big reason it's so popular was that their first three albums saw them move further and further away from the fast-and-faster formula just as punk was finally breaking into the mainstream. By "And Out Come The Wolves" (by far their best album), they did a near-perfect balance of punk, r'n'r and ska ---- then with "Life Won't Wait", they moved from their original formula even more-so and went near full-on ska/reggae/dub. I think younger fans of the band (many of which were now discovering punk through stuff like Tony Hawk ProSkater and Punk-O-Rama comps) just weren't ready for it. A lot of those kids probably never even heard hardcore or street punk before - so a record like Rancid 2000 (which was also more accessible to them due to distribution) would've knocked their socks off.
    So Rancid 2000 was seen as a return to form. I find people who discovered the band through Rancid 2000 seem to have similar feelings with Bad Religion's "The Process of Belief". After years of trying new things, a "back-to-their-roots" kind of album just hit harder at just the right time for a lot of kids, and the nostalgia of that period still rings with them.
    But as someone who got into the band in '95 when I was 11, I agree. How anyone can say "And Out Come the Wolves" isn't the perfect Rancid album just doesn't compute with me. The Clash, SLF and Specials influences were a big part of what broke Rancid big. Rancid 2000 is a fine album, but everything about it feels rushed, as if the band just said "fine, you don't like this Life Won't Wait stuff? Here's a record of fast bangers that we wrote over a week". lol.
    My top three are:
    3. "Life Won't Wait"
    2. "Let's Go"
    1. "And Out Come the Wolves"
    I like a lot of what came after Rancid 2000 too - but I feel like each album has way too much filler to put it on par with anything pre-2000. You could easily make an excellent compilation of Post-2000 Rancid tracks though.

  • @wesleyrostoll7371
    @wesleyrostoll7371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My favorite 3 Rancid albums
    1 - 2000
    2 - Let the dominoes fall
    3 - tomorrow never comes
    2000 has amazing bass lines and is basically their punkiest, angriest side. I love it.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it was recorded, mixed, and mastered better, I'd like it too! There are DEFINITELY some gnarly bass lines on there, I should have brought that up. To not have AOCTW as your top 1 or 2 is wild though

    • @mr.skinskull3148
      @mr.skinskull3148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love this record

  • @markobuenrostro8977
    @markobuenrostro8977 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This album is a hidden gem of theirs I remember owning a cassette of their debut album back in the early 2000s (I’m 30 years old) the street punk vibes are good, less “pop” feel. Their self titled album is phenomenal, Life Won’t Wait is great, I actually think their less critically acclaimed albums from the 90s early 2000s were better, just me.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah there's only 2, maybe 3, songs on that album that I can even listen to. But that's the beauty of all this, especially Rancid, there's stuff in so many styles that we can all be satisfied

  • @heybrowhatup
    @heybrowhatup หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are a lot bad songs on this album. They tried too hard to be edgy after the criticism from their previous album.
    The highlights are “It’s Quite Alright”, “Let Me Go”, “Radio Havana” and my favorite “Poison”.

  • @dougbartholomew1231
    @dougbartholomew1231 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Between 98 and 2000 I changed jobs, moved, got married, was about to have a kid, and my wife lost her father. I was ready to find comfort in a new Rancid album. I was so confused by it at the time that it took me years to appreciate it. Rwanda always fascinated me.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't gotten to the point of appreciating the album like you, but otherwise, I think we had a similar experience with it

  • @Thestreetwiseprofessor
    @Thestreetwiseprofessor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    🐐 Their best album by far 🔥

  • @dboone7670
    @dboone7670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I respectfully disagree with it being their worst album, but I understand your points and why you feel the way you do. Also, I believe im on about the same page as Rob when it comes to GGF. That song is an absolute banger, and i feel it's probably the best sign-off of all their albums.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do enjoy the fact that we can all feel a little different about this stuff and at the same time love it all and have so many memories attached to it. Who knows, maybe one day my opinion will flip, wouldn't shock me. Thanks for watching 👊

  • @user-qk1pe5qh8b
    @user-qk1pe5qh8b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought a bootleg copy of this album in 2000, still have this cassete. Not typical Rancid album, it's more "hardcore", but I've always loved this record.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't mind having a bootleg copy of this just bc I collect Rancid stuff and I'm a completist

    • @user-qk1pe5qh8b
      @user-qk1pe5qh8b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thepunkrockreview I would send it to You, no problem, as I know that You're the biggest Rancid fan in the world. I should check my local post office. Probably, they don't accept parcels to The States because of the sanctions. But if they do, I will send this rarity to You. No problem, Dude.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-qk1pe5qh8b oh wow, that would be AMAZING!

    • @user-qk1pe5qh8b
      @user-qk1pe5qh8b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thepunkrockreview I'll try :)

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-qk1pe5qh8b either way, it is appreciated my friend!

  • @dminicm4603
    @dminicm4603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i personally think this album is really good and a change of pace and i enjoy the heavier side of rancid, away from all the ska punk pop-ish sound they had, and even still i think this album has a lot of classic rancid sounds in it, it’s not my all time favorite rancid album but it’s definitely top 3 or 4 for me

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To each their own! I made my case as to why it's a bad record, but a lot of people don't agree. If this was my first experience with them, I likely would have a different opinion, but I was already half a decade in with the band when they dropped this. Haven't been as disappointed with a band's new release since then I don't think...

  • @WesMurdock
    @WesMurdock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Rancid 2000 is by far their best album and its not even close.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TrippVomit666
      @TrippVomit666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a big obvious thing that it's not even funny how good it is but lol this guys hell bent on having his opinions delegitimized

    • @mr.skinskull3148
      @mr.skinskull3148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2000 is my favorite. It's beautiful short heat flame thrower bursts into trenches and bunkers

  • @parodypicnic
    @parodypicnic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best album ever

  • @davesleyer9393
    @davesleyer9393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’re already pissing me off with the title Patty! When we fight about this I’m coming out to Dead Bodies. You can come out to Ruby Soho

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will embarrass you, and this terrible album

    • @davesleyer9393
      @davesleyer9393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thepunkrockreview
      Fuck that shit, I don't want to hear it
      You can't bare it when we blare it
      I hate your band, you understand?
      You got no passion, it's all fashion
      Well you come you can, come come true
      Calm down, flames red or blue
      You don't know, you got no clue
      I see through
      Your a rattlesnake
      And your full of shit
      I fuckin' hate you
      Your a rattlesnake
      You talk that shit about our crew, we hate you
      You said you know us, we don't know you
      You Jump on the next bandwagon
      What's the next fan in, I heard you braggin'
      But you ain't shit, you get frustrated
      We never hesitated to call you a charlatan
      Cause we hate you
      Your a rattlesnake

    • @davesleyer9393
      @davesleyer9393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry. Don’t know what came over me there. That was harsh. Still friends?

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@davesleyer9393 yes, but we must still have battle!

  • @davrowb
    @davrowb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Overhaul I like the album , Lars said they wanted to make an aggressive punk album they definitely achieved that , GGF , Let me go , and radio Havana are epic , wish they played let me go live .

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let Me Go is one of the good songs on the album, definitely would like to see it played live. But yeah, they made an aggressive album that came off sounding inauthentic and not like a genuine representation of the band.

  • @sheikaragray7681
    @sheikaragray7681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was better than most 2000's albums, we just thought Rancid was never again!!!

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did a complete listen through on my livestream this past weekend and we collectively decided there's a good 6 song ep in this album, but that's about it. I personally could do 3 songs, but there are 3 more that are popular enough to make a good ep. I'll be making an episode off this topic

  • @ergoth154
    @ergoth154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rancid 2000 really does feel like a collection of demos and b-sides. It never captures the genuine feeling of Let's Go and Rancid 93. It feels forced, bloated and try hard.
    That said, I would still rather listen to 2000 over Dominoes, at least it has Poison, Antennas, Rattlesnake and Golden Gates Field. These songs work on something like Punk-O-Rama but definitely not a full album.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's your beef with Dominoes? I love that album

    • @richardarnold5279
      @richardarnold5279 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I completely agree with this post. Every album before Rancid 2000 is a better Rancid record.

    • @ergoth154
      @ergoth154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thepunkrockreview Boring, easy listening Dad Rock Rancid with no bite or interesting compositions, no catchy melodies outside of East Bay Night. At least that was my initial reaction to the record. Been awhile since I listened to it.

  • @davrowb
    @davrowb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The album cover is a crass cover rip off I like it though .

  • @earthcitizen3939
    @earthcitizen3939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Out Comes the Wolves and Life Won't Wait are way worse. Loki and I Am Forever are really good, for example.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, you're entitled to feel that way. If you ever want to jump on and debate it, I'm happy to hear your side if you'll allow me to point out my reasons to feel the way I do. Thanks for watching either way 👊

  • @davrowb
    @davrowb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cover is a crass ( English punk band) rip off , overhaul I like the album especially Let me go , GGF , and radio Havana especially! I read an interview at the time were Lars said they actually wanted to make a fast aggressive punk record, they certainly achieved that , I probably play this album the least though , wish they played let me go live, love the lyrics. 🤘

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think it was an intentional Crass copycat, I'd imagine a lot of bands have done similar art.

  • @Duty272
    @Duty272 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    good album,i hate the NOFX split

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't disagree more! Lol. I will say though, the song choices for the split were super weird. They could have done a much better job picking those tracks....

  • @barrybarry2210
    @barrybarry2210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nope. Fucking love it.

  • @Alcoholikaust
    @Alcoholikaust 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Worst album? Those would be anything post Let the Dominos fall. Which was just ok.

  • @parodypicnic
    @parodypicnic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you guys make horrible arguments. One of the best things about rancid is they always keep you guessing. The storytelling on the southside old album is what Ranson has always been about. Some people just start punk rock enough to get it I guess.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  หลายเดือนก่อน

      😬 yeah man, thinking for yourself and having your own opinion is terrible 🙄 😂😂😂

    • @parodypicnic
      @parodypicnic หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thepunkrockreview well, I can only speak for myself. I suppose I just figured that was the obvious part. I liked life won’t wait and couldn’t understand why so many people didn’t like it. Authenticity is about doing what you want to do without weighing the consequences of opinions. Defines punk rock in my opinion. I just think it’s funny how people build a narrative around the art someone puts out there as if they know what was going on in their mind when they created it. Laughable.

  • @michaelallisonmusic
    @michaelallisonmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only take i think you have that's wrong!!

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've got senority on this one, sorry man

  • @TrippVomit666
    @TrippVomit666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not try hard AT ALL you just aint like that apparently. This the best rancid album for street punks besides troublemaker, TOMORROW never comes and the first ST. rancid made it for the city street punks who like it fast, unpolished, and aggressive. Punks from the back alleys of South Central LA to Venice Beach praise the album for its straight to the point raw street punk. Short songs, brutal bass and beautiful chaos. the worse thing about the album is your opinion of it.

  • @PiMpiNx187
    @PiMpiNx187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rancid's worst is still a good album

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what I was saying towards the end of the video too, I'd rather listen to their worst than almost anything from anyone else

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you nailed it. Maybe I listened to the album once and moved on. I don't remember. Gave it another try. Itdoes sound like try-hard garbage. Could not find a track that I liked. Maybe 2 on a scale of 5.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We've got the unpopular opinion on this one, lol

  • @MC-bi8qw
    @MC-bi8qw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THE BEST RANCID ALBUM IS RANCID 2000!!!

  • @malalUK666
    @malalUK666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Each to their own ... for me Rancid 2k is up there and also for me it was their last good album ... everything after had some good tracks on but never quite hit the highs of their earlier stuff

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shit, Troublemaker and Tomorrow Never Comes are top 3 or 4 albums for me.

  • @mr.skinskull3148
    @mr.skinskull3148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This actually showed their sing writing genius. These songs are such perfect razor blade pills. Short aggressive bursts. Its amazing songwriting.

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess. But my gripe wasn't really the song writing, but yeah, you right 👊

  • @Kabinet-Of-Kuriosities
    @Kabinet-Of-Kuriosities หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are punk snobs I bought this album in Norway in the year 2001 this album rules

  • @johnquackenbush9429
    @johnquackenbush9429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While not their best album, it's way better than any of the albums they released afterwards

    • @thepunkrockreview
      @thepunkrockreview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wholeheartedly disagree, but to each their own. You don't care for Indestructible, Dominoes, or Tomorrow Never Comes?

    • @johnquackenbush9429
      @johnquackenbush9429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thepunkrockreview Indestructible was decent, but definitely has a few skips. Dominoes I like the acoustic version. Tomorrow Never Comes is just super generic to me. Same with Troublemaker, and Honor Is All We Know. Their last 3 albums are almost unlistenable to me. I try every now and then, but they just don't appeal to me at all.