Consciousness in Advaita Vedanta | Talking Brains with Swami Sarvapriyananda
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In this episode of Talking Brains, Swami Sarvapriyananda discusses consciousness and the self under the philosophical and experiential framework of Advaita Vedanta.
Talking Brains host Andres Canales-Johnson discusses fundamental questions of life and the human mind with thinkers of diverse and unique backgrounds, from the whole spectrum of the arts and sciences.
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Swami Sarvapriyananda| Our guest
Swami Sarvapriyananda is the current Minister of Vedanta Society of New York, a monk, philosopher and a popular lecturer. He teaches Advaita (non-dual) Vedanta, a philosophy designed to help people become self-realised by using methods grounded in reasoning and direct experience. He is considered one of the best known lecturers of Advaita Vedanta in the world today, with some of his teachings watched by millions of people on TH-cam. Swami Sarvapriyananda has spoken at many conferences, including Talks at Google, TEDx, Science and Nonduality (SAND), and many renowned universities around the world. Swami Sarvapriyananda is incredibly well-versed in many other philosophical systems including the philosophy of mind. His ability to seamlessly relate ancient wisdom to modern cognitive science makes his teachings appealing to many scientists around the world (including myself).
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400 likes, 0 dislikes. This is the Truth of Being, Om
Thank you for the insightful session with Swami ji. The session is a great example of swarna manan nidhidhyasan ( listen - debate - meditate)🙏
We are so fortunate to have acess to all this wisdom. The west may benefits a huge deal by some humility in learning. Thank you for providing this precious teaching of Swami Pryananda.
A beautiful introduction of Swamiji.
This is one the best conversations that delve on consciousness and how Advaitha distinguishes between mind, consciousness and the material world
Pronam swamiji 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Distinguishing without Separating. Very true, that is appropriate definition of Brahman.
Consciousness- it’s the witness of mind
Swamiji is nothing short of amazing. Your questions are very logical and the interview was easy to follow. I always thought that Hinduism is most logical and scientific. Thank you for this - I'm a new subscriber. Namaste🙏
Fantastic conversation/discussion - thank-you both. This mind thought that something was asked about Turiya but not discussed. "The Fourth" space is one that this mind is intrigued by, but I believe in the end it's all the same Consciousness that is being pointed out. Thank-you both again!
I is the ego, and it is also an object of perception as thoughts and emotions are.
Consciousness is the ultimate Seer and is beyond I or any other concept, form and description.
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Superb , lucid, logical exposition of Consciousness.
Undoubtedly and I second this. Truely Blessed.
What a wonderful discussion!
Many Thanks! Part 2 is coming in a few weeks!
pranam to shri thakkur ji and to all
What a deeply contemplative interview! So captivating, emptying and filling at the same time. I had to take it in three sessions. But, it pulls one back again and again, and in the end silence pervades. Thank you for this deeply profound and uplifting interview. Heart felt at its core❣️❣️❣️🌹
Awesome interview, never would i have thought a channel would meet my love for advaira vedanta and dream theater (with Mike Mangini)
Consciousness and matter are just two sides of the same coin called " reality " but since it is only by consciousness ( awareness ) that we can understand that and not matter, consciousness is the cause of " truth "
Mind-blowing. Let's have more on this.
Thanks! Actually, Part 2 of Swami's interview will be uploaded in a few more weeks.
This is beautiful ❤ got to know many things
Thanks! Second part is coming in a few weeks 🧠
@@synchrony23 from the way you are questioning swamiji, it papers that you are already deep dived in to this vast ocean of knowledge.. kudos! 👍
This is just an excellent talk on consciousness and Advaita. I must say that even questions are also very precise and profound.
Thank you Munmun. That's at the essence of what this channel is intended to be.
The “Hard Problem of consciousness” is actually well explained by Prof. Mark Solms in his book.
Congratulations to Swami, of course, for his typically lucid explanation but special congratulations to the interviewer as well : all too often they get in the way and talk too much themselves, trying to steal the limelight. I am now a subscriber!
Many thanks Henry. I started this channel in the format it has (i.e. extensive, reflective and in-depth conversations) precisely to avoid the problem you mentioned.
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Swamiji thanks! Please bring Swamiji to expound on Mandukya chapter 2...it will blow us away. The world doesn't exist, with a 15 step proof.
Getting there. Gap is surely closing between what sages realized and todays scientists are realizing.
One more video of the Swami and I subscribe...
Part 2 coming soon in a few weeks :)
Am I happy or I am experiencing the happy state of mind - what an amazing way to start the interview.
Ha! Glad you caught that one :)
@@TalkingBrains I liked the distinction of Me vs my mind experiencing the happiness.. I was lucky to discover this interview, and channel. Great work!
1004 difference between knower and witness conciousness
WOW!THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION AND THE EXPLANATIONS OF SWAMIJI IN PARTICULAR!!👏🙏👏🙏
what happens to the consciousness of a person, when and if he loses complete lack of control of his body...He loses Physical requirements like hunger or thirst, etc and is not able to express it as he has lost his speech, He has lost his memory, etc.etc...
But He is ABLE to see, but he is totally expression-less, and he is not able recollect his relationships as well??
PN: These have happened to him over a period of time due to his ageing..he is 82 years old.
-----What happens to his consciousness?
Nothing has happened to the consciousness, All these things have happened to the body and mind.
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35....matter and conciousness
Regarding how experience is consciousness + objects of consciousness (physical, mind, etc).. what role is experiencing the world as-is and being fully present in your surroundings versus intensely focused on something at the expense everything around?
Would also liked to have heard specifics on things like ghosts, aliens, time, karma, free-will, premonitions etc. For example, in terms of reincarnation, there's some great identical twin studies that were separated at birth, and then later reunited, that show incredible similarities in occupation, personality, mannerisms, etc.. Similarly, the personalities of the parents, are very often seen in the children... All this seems to suggest that body/genetics you are born in seems to be (mostly?) responsible for your intelligence/temperament and perhaps ultimately karma. Ed Yong has a great Ted Talk on how parasites, bugs in the gut, and hormonal /brain chemistry imbalances can all be reflected in the personality.. so if much of who you are is made up by the physical, who is the real you in the after-life when the physical body is no longer?
What is the real you that survives survives between births and/or lives in the astral plane (subtle vs causal body)?
And how does the paranormal fit into the picture? For example, on the Jim Harold Campfire podcast (ex. 559) there's often stories of people seeing themselves, and later experiencing it from the other point of view. In other cases, people interact with someone only later to find out that the person could not physically have been there. Is that a time-glitch? Or often they act like tricksters playing pranks, but other times they seem malevolent.
Also, I've often heard that when you die you can linger in the realm that is very similar to earth... however there is a giant light that one can go towards at any time. If the physical realm is the only place to learn the lessons, how do astral-bodies advance to higher dimensions? What happens once you get to the light? do you reincarnate? Who/What determines your de/evolution path and what you reincarnate to.. animal, alien, plant?
Is there a point that you stop having a unique dis-associative personal experience? For example, in Sadhguru's Death book, he suggests that if you die of old age, you don't have to come back?! What age will you appear as in the astral-world? There's a few people that describe the after-life in exquisite detail.. Tom Campbell, Luis Minero, Matías De Stefano, Emanuel Swedenborg , Jurgen Ziewe, Pulkit Mathur/Spiritual-Bee.. and even a Brazilian movie (Astral-City) that seem to suggest the realm is full of beings that have work and have jobs, etc!
A wonderful conversation- thank you for illuminating so many topics
Thank you for watching!
All these explanations are still based in logic. But the true nature of the reality is likely something else. I've had a very unique experience. In 2017 I woke up in the operation theater and saw my own body laying on the bed being operated by the surgeons. I remember everything they've said and done while I was asleep. If consciousness is can only "work" with a functioning brain, how could that have happened to me? My brain was shut down by the anesthetics.
7 steps of Shankara
World appears in Awareness.
So this world is nothing but appearance of Awareness. It is a power of Awareness by which Awareness appears as the world without changing itself.
1005 no second reality
I found human consciousness explained well in a Royal Institution talk by Prof. Mark Solms . His book, A Hidden Spring is a great read I thought.
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10012 city in mirror by shankara
I have long studied Advaita Vedanta and would like to challenge the venerable swamiji on his statements concerning an "epistemology of the Subject." How does he hope to make the subject of all experience, the Self/atman, into an object so as to enable an epistemology. The Upanisads are clear on this matter, for instance,
"Now therefore the description (of Brahman): 'Not this, not this (neti neti).' Because there is no other and more appropriate description than this 'Not this.' (Brhadaranyaka Upanisad 2.3.6)
"This self is That which has been described as 'Not this, not this.' It is imperceptible. for It is never perceived; undecaying, for It never decays; unattached, for It is never attached; unfettered-It never·feels pain, and never suffers injury ... (Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.26)
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"Through what should one know That owing to which all this is known - through what, O Maitreyi, shoul one know the Knower? (Brhadaranyaka Upanishad. II.4.14).”
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It feels like something to be me, most certainly it doesn't feel like anything to be a toy or a leaf of grass.
But does it feel like something to be my nails, my teeth, my hair... or even my hands, my legs, my eyes?
The feeling of me is for sure there, but if it should be attributed to my body or not I dont know.
My body feels similar to a toy or grass, with the difference of the presence of sensation.
While the feeling of "me" feels the sensation, I dont know if it is the sensation really!
22...second reality
Understanding is clear.knowing is partial.seeing visualising seems difficult.swetataropanishad narrates that Brahma is angusth matra the size of thumb upper part a point of devine light.swamiji please clerify.
53 how conciousness interact with matter
In the mirror example, mind is the mirror reflecting the universe as images upon glass. and this mirror is also an object to awareness, but not apart from it. correct? 1:12:42
Reminded of Omar Khayyam when my head started to ache.
"but after Silence spake
A Vessel of a more ungainly Make:
"They sneer at me for leaning all awry;
What! did the Hand then of the Potter shake?"
Buddha's promise of liberation now and in this lifetime makes a lot of sense than twisting oneself into knots.
Out of all these discussions it is revealed that one has to accept it after absolute silence state experience acception. It can not be seen and known. The doubts are for Induced reflected which connect jeev and Aatma the concious.multiplicity as many seen by unseen concious the prakriti maya leelawattu kaivalyam is difficult to assimilate.
He says matter appears within consciousness, but by what agency?
According to temporary physics the outside reality can be divided in both objective and subjective aspects. For two observers which are not stationary towards each other the same quantum of energy can take on different forms. What is particle momentum to one could be photons to the other. What is a photon to one could be particles to the other.
So if I hand you, say, a cat, the fact that you also recieve something which is a cat is not to be taken for granted, but only established by the special case that our relative velocity is near zero. The fact that it is a cat to me depends on me and the fact that it is a cat to you depends on you. It could be dead, that is, a bunch of X-Rays for me and alive for you. Or whatbis dead light to one could be a living being to another. You see
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This is not the ultimate teaching. The ultimate reality is simplicity. When Sarvapriyananda talks about what awareness is, it gets so complicated it can give you a headache.
Why not it is possible that there may be a separate neoranian place in brain which is functioning as seear which you say nihatam anter guhayam. Hritapratishtam.
I too am bothered by this possibility.
I am having this thought also
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Objects are not content in the mind. It is the mind itself that assumes or becomes rose 🌹 or any other object.
All this seemingly external objects are our mind itself assuming the form of objects.
That is, the information we take in through the senses stimulate the the mind and the mind transforms itself as these objects.
In brief, we see our mind as objects and not the objects themselves.
Thoughts and emotions are also perceived by the mind like external objects. The ego which is supposed to perceive external objects as well as thoughts and feelings is also an object perceived by the mind. Of course the light that allows all this to be perceived is Consciousness which is different from the mind.
Mind is not only thoughts and thinking or feelings, emotions and feeling. It is also discerning wjñhoch is beyond thoughts or feelings, is perceiving, understanding, intuition which are also beyond thoughts and feelings.
Furthermore when mind becomes still and identifies with consciousness becomes luminous as consciousness itself
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I lose the thread where human is taken out of the human consciousness and consciousness is explained as a fundamental nature of universe.
The problem here of having psychiatric problems is precisely because they dont accept consciousness as independent of the mind..if they did get to that level of "being"( that is a constant living in it,or atleast really witness it with the mind itself)in the consciousness ,they would understand the workings of the mind and psychiatric problems wouldnt be there in first place.,which crop up because the mind goes round in circles...
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Hi Andres. Thanks for this discussion. I have been listening to Swamiji for past few years.
My only problem is,,
1. He and his Advaita Philosophy FAIL when we ask them on how the first shoots of Consciousness happened on earth, after the Big Bang. Did consciousness not emanate out of matter just after the Big Bang ... ?? How Advaita Vedanta explains this .... ?? Sometimes Swamiji says, Consciousness always existed and Only after the Bio systems on earth became capable enough, they started reflecting Consciousness. This actually contradicts the very Premise of Advaita ( Non - Dual existence ). Because, they start talking of 2 things - Consciousness & matter. Consciousness reflecting on matter once the matter became Powerful ! This means, there are 2 systems running :) The matter evolving on its own and the Consciousness !! What is firing this evolution of matter to reflect consciousness ?? Why such an evolution of matter is happening ? Why Consciousness is so inert and NOT participating in this evolution of matter ??
2. Thus I think Awareness is a product of something ingrained in matter and NOT something that exists disjoint from matter.
3. I would be very glad if you can question Swamiji on these lines in your next episodes.
4. There is another Swami of the same RamaKrishna order by name Swami Satyamayanada, associated with the Vedanta society of seattle. In my understanding, he seem to explain this " Big Bang - evolution and Consciousness " in a Non- Advaitic way . It's quite more agreeable !
All these swamiji’s all these scriptures all these logics are part of your dream. You are solving or trying to find the reality of your dream in your dream. All your big and small bang are the logic and science of your dream. The Big Bang for that matter is the mother of all improbabilities. If you want to collect and taste milk make sure there’s no leftover of curd in your container else in a matter of time whatever milk u collect in your container will turn into curd 🙏.
Appreciate ur effort in this direction.
The less you stop seeking answer and more you meditate and read non dual scriptures will be helpful to start with.
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@@kishanshivakoti256 Thanks for your Kind reply.
I should indeed thank Swami SarvaPriyananda ji for making me think on these lines.
@@kumarakantirava429 there are two ways of arriving at the non dual, subjective contemplation or reflection is what I would suggest. Drig drisya viveka, tatwa bodha, Atma bodha, etc etc 🙏.
The journey to the self has begun u have heard the call u no longer can go back to the old self even if you wish to. The silence that you have heard will guide you.
Godspeed to the self. 🙏
@@kishanshivakoti256 Thank you very much. 🙏
First shoot of Consciousness happened on earth is not that way Advaita view but rather Consciousness saying first shoot of Consciousness happened on earth.Scientist studying Archeology,Evolution etc is Consciousness only.This includes the timeline that we say and we agree with each other.
Take a dream in which you ask a similar question on Earth,Consciousness and Evolution etc.What will be the answer is that it is you all the way both the dream and the dreamer.That is Consciousness which is nothing but 'You'.Consiousness is not some field it is 'You/I' only..
This talk is so helpful but for the accent of swami It would have been the best teaching on Advaitha
All of this is spoken by not the consciousness, but by the being, the person “Swami”. How does the Swami know that there is a consciousness? Assuming that there is a consciousness, we can then say that that which knows is consciousness. But, to assume it is not a good way to establish something. What I know for sure is that the brain captures and processes information. “Mind”, like wetness of water or colors of a soap film, is how we experience the brain. It is emergent. Just like the hole in, say, a flute is no different, than the unbounded openness of the sky, and the properties of the flute are the result of what defines that hole, similarly the “mind” is fully emergent from the brain.
Buddha rebelled against vedanta in his entire life, people like Sarvapriyananda and his teacher Vevekananda and Shankharacarya were always against Buddha's teaching. He talks about Tibetian Buddhist which is far from Buddha's early teaching. Theravada Buddhist has the record of Authentic Early Buddhist Text. People like you (sarvapriyananda) have destroyed the Gem of Buddha's teaching from its birthplace India.
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