NVMe As Fast As Possible
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- SSDs are awesome, but the common SATA interface is becoming a serious bottleneck. However, the new NVMe standard helps take SSD performance to new heights...
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Challenge for Techquickie.
Make a video "Linus Sebastian Explained"
He is a IT version of Tim "The toolman" Taylor from the TV sitcom "Home Improvement".
@@CoverYourActions "eeeuuugghhh?"
2 Years. Still waiting. I need this. lmaooo
Prince harryand megan love story
Honestly this would be amazing
Is 2000MBPS completely necessary for a steam library? Yes....yes it is
Why is this not pinned...
I just boosted my NVMe to 15k read and 29k write with RAM cache just for gaming and all the stutter I had when loading new areas disappeared. I used to have frame drops in games with big open worlds while driving/riding around but that is also gone. I can max all settings in 1440p + enable ray tracing at medium on a 2080S and i9-10900k at 4.8GHz now in Watch Dogs Legion, before I had to run a mix of medium and high settings or it would stutter like crazy and the FPS would drop all the time. It's completely locked to my monitor's refresh rate now. No drops at all. That's what an insane read/write will do for you :-)
I've moved on to only NVMe:s and will never go back. SATA SSDs are a thing of the past imo :-P
Anyone saying it's "Overkill" or "noticed no differences" probably has a low end or midrange system that honestly won't benefit from it. When I upgraded from a SATA to an NVMe it was very noticeable (contrary to popular belief), Windows boot and shutdown way faster and apps open twice as fast.
If you have very very good internet... yes haha
But now you can't read the helpful tips that the game gives you because it loads too fast
I reckon they started the naming process with making it sound like "envy me" and worked backwards to an acronym.
+TheSpacecraftX Could happen'
+TheSpacecraftX A... backronym?
just like they did with s.h.i.e.l.d.
+TheSpacecraftX
Non-volatile memory express. I like your backronym better.
NVMHCI = envy my host controller interface? xDDD
Non Volatile Memory -> NVM. The "e" got added because PCIe for "express" took over the computer business like the Nazis stormed Poland. Therefore NVMe, note the small "e".
LinusShrekTips,
Come for the Knowledge, Stay for the editing.
And Lukes face. Nom nom.
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+Thomas The Fap Engine Linusdicktips
+Thomas The Fap Engine He's handsome and I'm straight... Fucking guy with his sexy face. Get out! I'm pretty sure Linus is slightly gay for Luke.
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I think Luke's presentation skills have improved significantly since the last AFAPs I watched with him as the presenter.
Well done! Keep up the good work!
I like how for the longest time parallel things were fast, then serial things were faster, now we're back to parallel things being faster! It's a vicious cycle.
A clear and concise explanation. Still relevant in 2021.
WHY IS LUKE YELLING AT ME AS FAST AS POSSIBLE?!
"parallelizing"
Thank you for using that word, it made me smile.
Better the wand of shame than the cone of shame
Needs more food prep tech. Good job on this one.
for anyone interested about game load times - it wont load most games faster than a sata3 ssd with 100k iops. ive tested a ramdisk thats 40x faster than a samsung 840 pro and load times were within ~1 second of each other. the bottleneck becomes the single thread performance of your cpu. cpu used was a 3930k at 4.6ghz
I hate when people expect their games to load 10x faster with an SSD (while it might actually happen in some cases) rather than a HDD and get disappointed since they don't realize a lot of the load lies on the processor.
There's a noticeable improvement from HDD load times to SSD load times. After I moved NFS Rivals onto my SSD (a game with horrible loading times), my waiting time was almost halved.
+Quarker It all depends on the game, really.
Quarker exaggerate the situation and imagine pairing an ssd with a 386 machine from 20 years ago. there would probably be no difference between ssd and hdd load time.
you might be able to see this exaggeration by changing maximum processor state in power options to downclock your pc extremely low. remember if you test this you need to do it after a reboot because once you load a game once the majority of the scene is cached in ram and will load much faster the 2nd time skewing any results
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there are different versions of NVMe, do you know the difference between them?
excellent topic.
very interesting evolution of the data storage
Do cell shading, please!!
dat phreak refrence! Tonnes of stuffs!
Wow! Thanks LLT for this video!
damn, in this lighting luke looks really good.
AHHH. There's never enough information in these things for me.
Can't you guys like, pally up with, say, Tek Syndicate and PC Per (for example) where they go into further detail about various aspects, without needing to cover the basics, because they were covered here.
Would be so nice to click a link in the description and have Wendell start covering the logic behind NVMe and then Ryan talking about ... well, no one listens to Ryan anyway, so it doesn't matter (kidding of course).
Ahhh, so much potential within these channels is being left of the table because of a lack of collaboration. You've all got your great traits and they can compliment eachother well, if you give them a chance, I'm sure.
Please, for the love of information dissemination, try to collaborate more, please please pretty please.
I ..... You .... But I ...
FUCK ME!
"where they go into further detail about various aspects, without needing to cover the basics, because they were covered here."
READ THE FUCKING COMMENT YOU'RE RESPONDING TO.
Fuck, this community gets shitter the bigger it gets :(
+Peanutsreveng3 its suppsoed to be fast as possibl
+Rapping Adam you're not getting what he is saying. The op is suggesting that links partners with another channel so after we watch the basics in techquicky we move on to another channel and learn something more in depth.
It's not hard to understand Jesus Christ.
+Peanutsreveng3 I'm with you Peanut! I've watched it twice now and I am still not sure whether the NVMe connects through PCI express or if it has its own connector or whats going on, a further video even showing a drive being installed or something as a link would be cool!
Could you guys go over the difference of Crossover and Straight Through cables and Auto MDIX? I always get confused when it comes to the difference between the two.
Linus not being on Techquickie as fast as possible
3 million subscribers congrats guys!!!!
Waiting for AMD Zen so I can use this stuff and DDR4
The future turned out pretty cool
@@pizzaivlife yes,yes it did poor intel on custom desktops
Really Zen changed things a lot bringing competition is best for us customers
I thought this was a joke before reading the date
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Luke looked so excited when he defined NVMe
Perfect explaining about ACHI Mode
So if NVMe takes advantage of technology like the PCI bus, when you have something like say a RAID Card, does this also take advantage of the PCI bus for the drives, even though they are still connected via a SATA III plug?
I got an intel 750 series NVMe SSD about a year ago and I love it. Everything I do is so friggen fast!! I've yet to see a load time > 3secs.
Just got my 256gb samsung 950 pro m.2 nvme. Its incredible, and i love the m.2 formfactor that requires no cables. love it.
What, is Luke taking over the entire Techquickie channel now?
You might want to start putting small fades(like 1 frame or even less) at the start and the end at all of your audio files. When an audio file start or end in the middle of a wave it will make a clipping sound and that is a recurring problem in your videos.
Love this video. I like learning stuff like this.
It'd be nice to have a couple of explnations about the diffrent technologies/optzimizations in both standards. I recon NCQ (Native Command Queing) is like totally contra-productive for SSDs?
Keep up the good work luke
i have a question, many old laptop has settings for hard disk to work in compatibity mode and AHCI mode in the bios. if i use a ssd in these old laptop what mode should i use to suit it the best?
Damn nice timing. We were just mentioning that at my Uni and now I'm gonna look smart next lecture when I know what it is xDD
+Nikolay Stoynov Lool one of those ones lmao
I did wonder if ram slots could be used for a storage drive and i did see news intel releasing something like that
I appreciate the video, however I actually would like to know how to make certain chipsets that other manufacturers eg Asus have made NVMe drives compatible. I have just picked up a Gigabyte X79 UD3 and I heard there is ways to load custom firmware to make it be recognised by the bios but I am still confused. cheers
Can you do a fast as possible on different types of ssds like sata, msata, raid etc.
2:30 nice examle to show QD for AHCI and NVMe
Very important to know. THANK YOU!
Can U test out if DX12 VRAM stacking is really working? and how good is it? what it need to use it
Sweet, my mobo has NVMe support, might have to pick an SSD up pretty soon
Neck vein pop in the thumbnail, Luke goes hard when it comes to nvme bros.
does it make sense to build a nvme nas going forward? and if so any suggestions?
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I suggest you guys do a video about shortening URLs. Thanks!
can you please do a video on 3D PCB's and why there is no development. wouldent having more surface area be better for example in cpu architecture as space is already a limit.
So a double m.2 port (PCIE linked) mobo supporting nvme and RAID on said port is the thing to have for uber perf ?
How do archives work? I know they reorganize data in a certain way although all the pages I look at dive in deep to the point where I have no idea what I'm reading
0:10 MATT STONIE!
You should do a video comparing LED Edge lit displays vs LED back lit displays
WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING??!??!?!?! LOUD NOISES!!!!
He's not shouting
The example shown in this video at 2:03 was an Apple proprietary drive and not a standard NVME SSD
Can you use legacy BIOS boot with NVMe working? I don't recall this being possible, yet I just figured out my Windows PC boots via legacy BIOS (I blame the Windows installer for this) from my NVMe drive. I just want to make sure I know what is going on. (I'm not going to reinstall windows at this point just for a slight boost if that's all it gives me)
Could you guys do something on 4kn vs. 512e drives?
Looking at new mass storage for 850 Pro and SM951 NVMe boot drives and want the fastest most reliable storage possible. I have a 128MB cache 6TB WD Black and I'm considering the WD6001FXYZ which is a 4kn 6TB 128MB cache drive.
What're the pro's/cons of going to 4kn - is it livable day to day? Can I install steam/blizzard/uplay etc. games there without any issues? I'd likely be using a UEFI install of Win 10 Pro or Ent (MSDN account!)
Yeah they're better but, they get hot.. I would like to see more motherboard manufactures have built in coolers for M.2 NVME drives.
Does the Maximus VIII formula have good nvme implementation? For, say, the samsung 950 pro?
2018 and I now have a Samsung Evo 500GB m.2 NVIE Drive!
So I have a serious question. If on paper NVME is waaay better than AHCI then why when it comes to real world performance (particularly boot times and load times) NVME M.2 drives are kind of a hard sell since they are more expensive than SSD's and the boot and load times for NVME M.2's are if anything just 1 or 2 seconds faster than SSD's? Is it because of speed limitations in the OS and in the game engines? I think this is a good question for Techquickie but I'm interested in what everyone has to say.
I think, at that point, the boot time is limited by other components, This is the fastest your PC can boot with virtually no bottleneck in storage. Consider your CPU and other components take 10 seconds to process all boot instructions, while your SATA SSD takes 4 seconds to provide data, Result: 14 second boot time. Now CPU and other components still take 10 seconds, but the NVME takes 1 second to get data, Result 11 second boot time.
Also, booting might not be the most expensive operation, it might not fill up the request queue of AHCI. NVME will excel in really hard time, when requests are more than what AHCI can handle at the same time. Consider a time where your system experiences very high load (There are times like that for about 4 seconds), Even with SSD's you will get some slowdown, This is where an NVME will easily outperform AHCI.
When an OS is booting it is initializing all of the devices of your computer. It is done by drivers. Unfortunately there are a lot of idle time during this time because some hardware just simple too slow to answer the requests. But the OS needs to wait for these answers which are usually init values for the specific hw drivers.
mraustin3410 Dude, you're missing the point of these drives. If all you're trying to do is boot a few seconds faster and run games then these drives just arnt really for you. At least not now..I've got two computers, one main desktop and one alienware laptop..both have 960 Pro nvme 1tb drives in them. Why? Because the difference it gives me for doing audio engineering work, loading virtual instrument samplers, and video and media work is ridiculously faster. It's a complete night and day difference, it's the difference between me getting frustrated with trying to work and me just being able to do the work without noticing an issue with lag time and etc etc etc. Especially on big projects with 60 to 80+ channels running at once. These drives are a godsent.
AustinSummersOfficial The slo mo guys have a video explaining that. A playback of a high bitrate video from a SATA SSD and from a NVMe SSD. For how fast the SATA drive was there was no way it didn't buffer after some seconds. That's pure read speed difference.
here's a side by side comparison of SATA vs NVMe video playback- th-cam.com/video/4PoXiRoLSZQ/w-d-xo.html
Can you connect a M.2 NVMe PCI SSD to SATA-3 connector using an adapter? (I know this will not give any performance advantage since SATA is only 550mb/600mb max but to futureproof myself whenever Im buying a new laptop with motherboard that fully supports NVMe..) Thanks.
so does that means nvme m2 drive works on my (gigabyte z97 G3) m2 port? Does it only works as data storage or can be a boot drive? Manual does says this,
1 x M.2 PCIe connector
(Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA & PCIe SSD support)
1 x SATA Express connector
6 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3 0~5)
(M.2, SATA Express, and SATA3 4/5 connectors can only be used one at a time. The SATA3 4/5 connectors will become unavailable when an M.2 SSD is installed.)
Intel 3D Xpoint....i would surely like some explanation on that.
Congratulations you finished the lecture before my ADHD kicked in and I started getting distracted like a squirrel that sees something shiny 👏
You know what else doesn't support NVME drives? My "new" late 2015 Alienware 17 R3... Oh well, I just opted for a 1TB SSD after I sent my NVME PCI-E SSD back. Not many updates yet on it but once they add support I'll go grab one because even though I couldn't get it as a a boot drive I did get it to work in OS. The read/writes were awesome, and I need that in my life.
I want to find an ssd that helps fix the problem ssd has of overwriting damaging ssd memory and making the ssd wear out . Does the new ssd pcie nvme help fix that issue?
Are there any nicer looking NVMe drives out there (with a black pcb) that has up to 1TB space? Not Plextor though. The Samsung one looks nice, but seems to only have up to 512GB (also seems to be for laptops?).
I'm genuinely curious
Which one is faster? NVMe or UFS 3.0?
PLEASE TELL US HOW TO TAKE OUT MSATA FROM SAMSUNG 850EVO AND USE IT IN AN EXTERNAL ENCLOSURE AND USING IT DIRECTLY AS MSATA ON MOTHERBOARDS OR LAPTOPS WITH MSATA SUPPORT.
I have a Samsung M.2 950 pro 256gb in my asus z170-a and the computer boots up from cold in about 4 seconds. (after the bios of course) I love it
What do you guys think of teemo in cs go?
teemo?
Fucking annoying. No exploding mushrooms in CsGo pls.
+MasterXGaming Xddd
where did these guy go
How exactly Nvidia Tesla is for and what is the difference from quadro. please make a video about it.
I was watching Matt Stonie right before this. 0:09 lol
i have NVMe SSD but the bios is set to AHCI, i don't see any difference in performance.would that make any changes ?
The problem with the latest M.2 speed drives is they have very limited write cycles, and since you're probably using such a fast drive to write lots of data quickly, you're going to go over that limit blazingly fast...then you're left with a very expensive read only drive.
Sure, most people could probably write a copy of windows to it, some common programs, and some games here and there and all would probably be fine. But you don't really need GB/s to do that, any normal SSD will be more than fast enough for that.
When I bought my first SSD years ago, it was about $80 for 128GB. Now SSD's are down to about 50 cent per gigabyte. Soon they'll be even cheaper and faster.....so I'd recommend anyone to hold off on buying any SSD's unless they absolutely need them, because in 2 years time, SSD's are going to be dirt cheap and even faster.
You were right lol
I've a NVMe samsung 960 evo+ 2 SSD and HDD. after installing NVMe, HDD is not getting recognised. I've connected it to SATA 1 port and 2 SSD to SATA PORT 5 & 6. I've a Gigabyte H170 motherboard., Plz guide me
He sounds like he is yelling and it bugs me that the volume is so low -_-
+Brayden Haines - you should find an original image to use as you profile pic. That logo is not yours.
+4k Fractals I hope you won't get too mad at me for my profile picture. I'm just a planet.
+4k Fractals and I'm assuming that the picture of space in your profile picture is yours?
+I Am A Planet That You've Never Seen Hey, I see myself in that picture!
You think he sounds like he's yelling? I'd say he sounds like he's projecting his voice, but I've never had someone yell at me so calmly and quietly. But I do agree it doesn't sound good.
is NVMe supported by the OS, motherboard, BIOS, or the CPU? So if I slap on a M.2 card into a PCIe x4 slot on my old X79 mobo which I know doesn't have NVMe support, would a BIOS update fix that?
Great video!
I'm confused, so what is the difference beetwen m.2 and NVMe now ?
What is the background noise like a big metallic turbine?
welcome to luke-quickie
how about NCQ whats that and is it important or dose nvme make it irrelavant ?
Thanks for that information =)
That Background Hum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a question for everyone. I am looking for a ahci to usb drive but cant fine one. Do they make one?
Is there a hardware raid for NVME drives?
My sata SSD failed. I am considering buying the Samsung 960 Evo NVMe. I have a Dell Optiplex 7010 SFF i7 16GB RAM, I have 2 question before I buy (i) will BIOS recognise NVMe for boot purposes and (ii) which generation of PCI-E Express 16 does it have, i think it's version 3.0 but not 100% as it does not state on the spec sheet.
Hi , my Samsung M.2 evo should get 3500 mbs read speed but only gets 2500 mbs when optimised , any thoughts on why im loosing 1000mbs
Ranger 8 motherboard, skylake 6700k cpu , 850w psu and 32 GB of Vengance Ram
Great vid thanks for the info ^_^
I miss Luke on these Videos! ='(
Are there already any android phones with NVME storage around? I know the iPhone 6s has it...
If I get a motherboard that supports NVMe, use a NVMe SSD as primary drive and SATA HDD as storage drive, will the HDD run into any issues?
I need help so I purchase an aorus x3 plus v5 with a 512gb nvme however whenever I boot to bios I only see raid and ACHI. do I need to install a driver in order to go to the new standard? thanks anyone who help.
Thank u techquickie
Cool. What's the difference between NVMe and M.2 then?
2:57 Hearing it helps, even though I knew, heh.
0:00 you know he had to do it to em.
Stop watching at 3:20, Lynda is back!!!.... She is gonna get ya!!!!.....
Talks about IO throughput, shows a stock photo of SATA power connector.
I have a Samsung 960 PRO m.2 NVMe SSD. And my BIOS is set at AHCI mode. So my drive is really being bottlenecked by the AHCI interface then right?. I mean by alot right?. :/ :(