Audio Technica at-lp120 Long Term Review - Review for DJing / Mixing and Scratching
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- I meant to say that brand new Technics are at least $1000 each, not a pair. Also, below are the links to the turntablist videos that I mentioned. Let me know if you have any questions, and I'd be happy to answer them for you as best as I can.
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• Scratching - ATLP-120 ...
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For $220 each or $440 for a pair, these turntables are a great deal. Remember two technics 1200 cost a minimum of $2k
You can pick up a decent pair of 1210 for about a grand (£1000).
edit: $1200 in 2023
@@PatrickSwayzeOnDbol tell me where. A functional technics costs at least 800. Never seen anything below
Followed your advice from months ago to buy concorde mix's for the lp120 and it definetely changes the sound you hear, the volume, base...i'm so happy now, thanks again
That is great to hear.
This video is a blessing. Thank you for the valuable info!!
Just what I was looking for. Thank you!
You got me sold. Been looking for a pair for a while. Thank you for providing the links.
As long as you are able to get the original at-lp120 usb. The newer at-lp120x would not perform as well for DJing purposes.
@@DroidApproved thank you so much. Can you do mixes and light scratching on the newer one?
I haven't used the new version, but it has lower torque than the original at-lp120, which imo is already at the minimum for DJ performance. I would think the at-lp120x would be more difficult to use, but that is just a guess.
I've had mine for two years. I put an Empire exl 10 cartridge on it. That helped the base response. I also use a compressor/limiter (used to be a broadcaster) and the sound is smooth and warm. I've heard of people removing the built in preamp. I am using a seperate preamp through a Nikko NR-300 receiver's auxiliary input. No problems with this turntable. The purists will trash talk it. Someday, I may graduate to a used 1200, but this serves my purpose well enough thst I cannot justify the expense.
those Vertigo Records platter mat - AWESOME!
dope, thanks for this review!!
You bet. I hope it was helpful to you.
The video I needed. thanks.
I am so glad you did this review! I am hoping to buy these turntables specifically for DJing! I'm curious as to how the compare to the Pioneer PLX-500 because of the similar price but I'm definitely leaning towards these because of your highly detailed and comprehensive review!
I'm glad that helped you out, Alfred! I'll be doing some more reviews of dj gear in the future. Next up is the Numark ndx500. Thanks for watching!
Somebody told me not to get the pioneer 500 for djing and I'm like why not I seen somebody get busy on them
Big ups for the review, mate! Thinking of getting a couple of these to get serious about DJing. Like 3 years ago I got a couple Gemini TT-1100 turntables and I'm really getting tired of how flimsy and skippy they are, plus the belts are starting to wear out. Hopefully these will be much better for the job. However I'm also considering the lp120XP as it seems much better suited for full-on DJing and casual listening both, the only issue is it's double the price and a purchase of two would leave me out 800 bucks, but it would probably be worth it.
Yeah, the at-lp140xp was designed with DJing in mind. If I were buying new today, those are the models I would get.
@@DroidApproved at-lp140xp doesnt have the pre amp in it tho right?
I love mine I have two. One in the bedroom and one in the living room. Nice mats !!!!!
Thank you! Agreed on the 120s. They are definitely worth every penny. Please like and subscribe if you haven't.
I used these for a while, grew frustrated with them. The main reason was the pitch would wander on both of them, you would drop a record, beat match it, bring it back, drop it again and the pitch would've gone out, touch the platter a tad to slow it down and keep it in beat, it would slow down, and then take a few seconds to recover to back where it was supposed to be, you could see it on the strobe. Found i was constantly battling them, even my old crappy KAM beltys didnt piss around like they did. Sold them and bought the 1240s, much much better, no regrets.
Nice review!
Thank you!
very good review
Thanks!
Great video. I got 2 MkII’s that I’ve reconditioned to nearly new condition. Thinking of selling one and buying 2 of these and a Phase DJ set up. I’ll keep the other 1200 as my ripping deck.
Thanks for checking out my video. I will tell you the same thing I tell all of my friends. Never sell your Technics. You will regret it. But good luck with whatever you decide. Thanks again.
Don’t sell you’re MKs u will regret it like I did
@@nodrama490 YUP! I definitely regret selling mine and my stanton str8's
thank you. great video.
I bought LP120 for home, aka HiFi use, and overall I'm quite happy with it. Even though it has some minor quirks and setbacks, but it's still more than worth the price. Very flexible design and features, which can easily accommodate & adjust to both HiFi or DJ individuals.
So would you recommend taking this to do a show for an artist in a big venue or should you just stay home with this turntable cause I just got it today
IMO these are basically for home use. I imagine they would have some pretty bad feedback issues at a loud gig.
Droid Approved how come ?
They are very lightweight and made of abs. They're just not designed to dampen feedback.
Great video very informative, thank you for not inboxing, I know how to take something out of a box !
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you. I will keep this one on my list - although the 2019/2020 version is somewhat different.
Yes. From what I understand, the 120x version is not as suitable for DJ use as the original version.
@@DroidApproved That is what I heard also. But, I am not concerned. I will be using it in the gentle environment of home hifi.
@@DroidApproved Could you elaborate a bit more on this? I was thinking of buying a pair of the new 'x' model... What exactly doesn't make them as suitable for dj use as this older model?
@@funky.ass.breakz4473 Here is what I know so far. On the newer unit, the tone arm height adjustment is gone. The forward and backward platter rotation option is gone. The tonearn pop-up light has been replaced with a basic removable one. On the back, the power comes from an outboard power supply instead of an onboard supply with a "captured" cord. Speaking of "captured" cords, the audio cords are now removable. And there is now a ground connector in case of hum problems. The onboard preamp and USB option have been retained and (I am told) improved.
Mostly the lowered torque. The original at-lp120 is already at what I would consider the lowest threshold for DJing i.e. back cuing and scratching. Trying to mix on extremely low torque turntables is not fun at all.
i might just get those. i had 1200s in my time i scratched on belt driven turntables .so those is a walk in a park
The struggle was real learning to scratch on beltdrives. But it made our skills better when we got a pair of Technics 😉. Sold mine to pay the rent 20 years ago and now I have these. Not so refined as a 1200 or 1210, the dampening on switches etc, but absolutely spot on for a night of old friends coming round for some drinks and turntable abuse with the old records. Trust me, you can abuse these decks
The Vertigo mat would look
good on Toneyanne.
Great Review!, I have one 120x now, was going to buy another one for scratching/mixing. But thinking of getting a pair of 140xp technica turntables instead. Was wondering if i should do that or stick with my 120x and get another. Budget is 600£ so 800$, open to any other suggestions for a different pair of turntables aswell. thx!
Thank you. I haven't tried the 140 myself, but on paper they seem to be better for DJ use than the 120. I will be posting a review of the at-lp1240xp this weekend.
Very good Nice!!👍👍👍👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This turntable is the same as Numark PRO TT-1 & PRO TT-2 and the GEMSOUND DJL-2000 is identical to this turntable except the strobe light is blue.
Could you hook them up with serato and a djms9 mixer
You could use these with any DVS assuming you have the proper software and interface.
i have two of them, and you can watch some videos on my chanel mixing with them.
I have removed the preamp and fixed the antiskating. There are some tutorials in youtube fixing those issues.
audio technica at-lp140xp is now out looks quite interesting I am waiting for reviews
Agreed.
I’ve been a deejay for over 20 years (off and on). I mainly used 1200’s with vinyl. My question is do these work for for vinyl only DJ mixing? (Beatmixing)
Yes. They are turntables for vinyl records. They have pitch controls for beat matching. Hopefully this answers your question. Thanks for watching.
I'm pleased to hear your thoughts on these tables after 5 years, have you had any problems with the stop/start switches?
Nope.
Nice review. Can u compare this to numark ntx1000? Thanks
Thanks. I can't speak for the Numark. I never used one, but the specs look good on paper.
Hello I have this turntable but I can't scratch it (the diamond of the cell jumps or does not stay in the groove) I have the original cell. how to adjust the counterweight and anti skating? I have to change the original felt too. Finally do I have to change the cell for mix and scratch? thank you very much !
The cartridge that comes with the turntable is not suitable for scratching. I recommend you get a decent scratch cartridge like the Ortofon Scratch. Here is a video that will show you how to balance your tonearm.
th-cam.com/video/nm0MwrHSLH4/w-d-xo.html
Hi there, thanks a bunch for the review. Two questions:
- If I bought a couple I would not need an amplifier right (as they have preamps)?
- What is the best mixer I can get for those for around 150 dollars?
Thanks again!
Thanks for checking out my video. With regard to your questions:
1. You will still need an amp or powered monitors. The internal preamp only converts the phono output to a line signal. All that has to do with is what type of signal is output from the turntable. It has nothing to do with amplification.
2. Off the top of my head, I would suggest a Numark m2 mixer. It's not great, but for $100 it will work well enough.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck.
Droid Approved I do have powered speakers. Ready to go then? Decks in mixer, output to speaker from mixer and thats it!
Yup. That's it.
I have one already and like it, was considering getting another for mixing... what about the AT95s that come stock on these? Recommended budget mixers? I think a video on setting these up properly and options for small budget would be fun. Thanks and Cheers!
The AT95 don't have the best tracking for DJ applications. They're not designed for back cueing or scratching. What's your price range for a mixer, and what are you looking for it to do?
Droid Approved would be nice to stay around $50 for stylus/head per table. The ddm4000 looks neat, would like to find one used cheaper or a less expensive model. What’s the best budget home mixing rig that is legit? Your on deck... now cue up and hit it hot.
The Ortofon Pro S OM is around $50 per cartridge or $80 each if you get them pre-mounted on a headshell.
As far as mixers go, the Behringer ddm-4000 is one of my favorite mixers for home use. However, if you are new to mixing I would recommend something along the lines of the Numark m2. That has what you need to learn the basics, and you can get one for $80-100 new.
thanks for the vidoe, amazing, one question, If I was to record my slef playing some minimal, and upload it, should I worry about copy rights or anything like that?
thnx again!
You might get hit for copyright violation playing other people's music. In that case, you can't monetize your video. Usually nothing else happens, but the claimant might have your video taken down or part of it muted. I don't worry about it when I post mix videos.
@@DroidApproved I know this is the confusing part. One can plug in any song that has been recorded in the last 75 years or so, and SOMEONE on youtube has made a video of the 45/331/3/78/whatever. Why aren't they being shut down? That's what youtube is all about !!!As far as I'm concerned anyway. I've even typed in obscure recordings from say the 60's..thinking "all right, no one has taken the time to video and record this" WRONG-------someone has all ready done it!!..but that's the wonderful feature of youtube it's like having a juke box at your fingertips. My two cents FWIW
I’ve been looking for these turntables but they’re not available anywhere anymore. I can find the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSBBK, which seems to be a newer model of this series. Can i use this model in a dj setup aswell?
From what I understand, the 120x has lower torque and is designed to be more of an audiophile turntable. I don't think it would be as well suited as a DJ deck. At this point, you would be better off with the at-lp140 xp. Check ebay though. You should be able to find the original version of the 120 there.
You know why I can not hold the disc at the mixing point, when I prepare to release the disc it jumps up and leaves the point I want.
First of all, make sure that the tonearm is properly balanced. However, it seems more likely that you are being heavy handed with the record. It only takes a light touch for cue and release.
How are the buttons? I can only mailorder so no way to test them physically. Looks and features are fine, it seems. I used to play on 1200/1210 mk2 and i used quick 33/45 flick to nudge into the groove. That was smooth as the buttons had short travel and no plasticy click or wobble..
Also sometimes i nudge with the slider by rocking it up and down shortly. How do these controls compare to the Technics in terms of "feel". Any wobble or mechanical noises? How strong is the "snap to -/+0" when getting close to it with the slider? Even on the 1210s it was sometimes hard around that area. How's the pitch slider resolution in general?
PS: i don't scratch or juggle. Just mixing and beatmatch.
The buttons do not feel bad, but I never use the 33/45 trick for beat matching, so I can't speak as to how well they work in that capacity. Otherwise, they feel nice and solid, imo.
The pitch slider is good. It is a little "looser" than a Technics slider that is in good working order, but it still feels good to me when riding the pitch. There is a bit of a dead zone, around the zero mark, but nothing worse than you would find on a 1200 mk2. The pitch control is analog, so the resolution is very good aka infinite. The original at-lp120 is perfectly fine for mixing.
Hopefully this answers your questions. Thanks for watching.
Hi there,
I enjoyed the video, great review...
I was just wondering if you could recommend a decent needle for this model just for general home listening and the occcasional scrathing for samples.?
Thanks. I would recommend the Ortofon Concorde mk2 Mix.
www.ortofon.com/mix-p-795
Thanks mate, greatly appreciated. 👍🏼
so PLX 500 over audio-technics lp120 and 140? is it upgradable ? does the tone arm just slide off. want to scratch. hope to hear from u soon
I would not recommend the Pioneer over the Audio Technica. You will just pay more money for the same turntable because of the Pioneer branding. Of those three turntables, I would recommend the Audio Technica at-lp140x. There are some modifications that have been done to the at-lp120, like removing the internal preamp, but I would not say that it is "upgradable". The tone arm does not "Slip off". Replacing the tonearm would involve opening up the turntable and desoldering the connections.
i have had these turntables for 3 years and they are pretty good turntables for the money.i have no problem with them but it has low torque motors in them but nothing a dj cant work through.
Hi there. Low torque compared to what? I am comparing a few things. How does its torque compare to technics ?
They are lower than Technics. IIRC the starting torque of the at-lp120 is 1.7 kg/cm, which is the sustained torque of a Technics. Unfortunately, Audio Technica doesn't specify the sustained torque. It is a bit lower than Technics, but it's not unusable or anything that you can get used to. The newer model, the at-lp120x, has even lower torque, and I would not recommend using that for mixing or scratching purposes.
I intend to buy 2 but I didn't decide yet between that model and reloop rp-4000 mk3. It's kind of difficult, because Audio-Technica owners leve them and Reloop owners also love them. Anyone test both models?
I'm sure they are exactly the same. These decks are manufactured by Hanpin and rebranded by other companies.
After selling my 1210s 20 years ago i need something just for the house... for a nice booth set up... and these look like they might work out just fine matched with a Traktor S4.... actually the LP40XP might better for connecting to the S4... then just run the S4 through the Mac.. pair the whole thing with 2 KRK5 monitor speakers... thoughts ?
I think the 140xp would be a better choice since the original at-lp120 has been discontinued. From what I understand, the new 120x is not as good for DJing.
Hey bud thanks for the review, do you recommend the 120usb honestly I can’t afford the technics and I am new to vinyl coming from cdj will it be a good buy? Plus can I dvs with these or the usb version
I would recommend the original at-lp120, not the newer at-lp120x version. DVS will not work with these by themselves. You will need some sort of interface or a dvs enabled mixer.
@@DroidApproved thanks bud then i think perhaps i should look at something like reloop 4000 mk2
Yup. The rp4000 would be on par with the original at-lp120.
@@DroidApproved thanks champ
Hello!
One question, I bought the pair of lp 120 and I use them with the pioneer djm mixer 250mk2
When I use the DVS system with rekordbox the BPM varies, fluctuates, goes up and down
Would you know if I should make some modification on the turntable or would it be a problem with the rekordbox?
Sorry for my bad English
Nice set up! I know what you mean about the bpm display in Rekordbox. It fluctuates, maybe plus or minus .1% or .2%. Mine does the same, even with Technics 1200mk2 amd mk5. The same thing also happens when I use Serato Scratch Live. I can't explain why it does that, but I have never noticed any problems with mixing because of it. My advice is don't worry so much about what the bpm display says, and just use your ears.
@@DroidApproved Thank you!
It leaves me calm knowing that it is not turntable problem, since I really like them.
I'll continue practicing. By the way, your video has helped me a lot when I can upload a revision of my setup and share it with you!
Hugs
You're welcome, and thank you!
Yeah, it's how DVS is. I'm running two Technics SL1200 M3Ds with a DJM450 via Rekordbox DJ and the BPM always goes up and down .1/.2%. You're good :)
Does anyone know if these are compatible with Allen heath xone 23 mixer
Any turntable is compatible with that mixer.
Please help! I was thinking of getting a concorde cartridge for my lp120x, I was wondering if you had to change the alignment at all or was it plug and play? Haven't found enough information on the geometry and kind of new to this so not sure if I would know how to align it.
The Concordes are just plug and play. All you have to do is balance the tonearm and set the correct tracking weight. Easy peasy.
@@DroidApproved awesome thanks for the help!
No problem! Please like and subscribe if you haven't.
Is the antiskate working properly, I heard they lack quality control in this area and people have complained about it not working out the box!
I used these for DJing i.e. mixing and scratching, so I always keep the anti-skate at 0. However, I never had an issue with the tracking. The anti-skate complaint is purely from the audiophile camp.
Nice vid ..what mixer are you using?
Cheers
Thank you. That mixer is a Pioneer djm-900nxs2.
i see you got your tone arm weight on 3g, would you recommend doing it? since i got it on 2 i feel like my needle skips sometimes, but by putting more weight i put more risk on damaging records, thus im not really sure how to solve the skipping problem hihi :)
It depends on the cartridge that you are using. As long as you set the weight within the manufacturer's recommended range for the particular model, you should be fine. In my case, 3 g is within the recommended range for the carts I use, which are Ortofon Q-Bert Concordes. I have no issues with skipping from back cueing or scratching. Hopefully this helps you.
I guess the skipping is more dangerous for your records 😑
Whats your take on Lencos L-3808? Is it nuts to consider djing with those? I don't know much about the specs, but audiophiles regard those very highly.
Wow, I've never seen that one before. After Googling it, it looks like the same thing as a GLi sl-2500, but I have never used one of those either. Sorry, I have no idea.
it's not nuts. They are cheap but they are like much more expensive decks to use. perfectly good for DJing and beat matching - i have a pair and they work great for mixing.
Hi, it's me again haha, what's the mixer you're using for the vinyl? Thanks again!
That is a Pioneer djm-900nxs2.
Hi, thanks for the video. I currently use a pair of cheap Reloop decks, but have bought two of these to replace them. The problem I find with the Reloops is I get really bad feedback from my sub back through them, probably due to the cheap materials used. Do you think I will have a similar issue with the LP120?
Probably so. As I said, I would recommend these for home use. I would use Technics if I were in a situation where I was concerned about feedback.
Thanks Droid Approved, paid for them now, but got a good deal, so will be able to sell them on if they don't do the trick
Only the LP120x’s - the original model as above is far better and doesn’t have the same feedback issue with the newer version !
Great video thanks. What about long beat mixes? Keeps the BPM, no sway etc?
Thanks! Yeah, once you get them actually locked they hold just fine. From my experience they are not any worse than Technics for holding a blend. Please like and subscribe if you haven't.
Great review! I'm just getting back into actual turntables and just picked up a couple of these turntables for scratching at home. I've been using the ns7, ns7ll for years and still missed the 12 inch platter. Can you recommend a good mixer just for home. It can be a 2 or 4 channel. It doesn't have to be fancy bc I have the ns7ll and it offers great effects when I want to use them. Btw the new rane 12's that are coming out are nice but more than I want to pay for home.Thanks
Thanks. What is your budget? Are you planning on using regular vinyl or DVS?
Honestly I'm not trying to break the bank. I looked at the numark m6 usb. I would love to have a race but they're really expensive. I'm to use vinyl and dos. I also looked at the denon dj dvs for serato since I already use serato dj
Why not just plug the turntables into the ns7II? The only issue is that you won't be able to use effects with regular vinyl.
Droid Approved That’s an option that I didn’t think of. Thanks. Wouldn’t I still need a dvs interface to read timecode vinyl on the turntables?
I don't think so, but you would need the Serato DVS expansion pack.
Good info on these. What would be the equivalent of these but with the torque of a 1200?
As far as I know, there's not really anything at this price point that would have higher torque. The high torque turntables start around the $450 mark and go up in price from there, so things like the Audio Technica at-lp1240, the Stanton st-150, the Reloop rp-7000, Pioneer plx-1000, etc.
@@DroidApproved I've only ever played on 1200's, and that was 25 yrs ago (I'm 48 now). I never was much of a scratcher, so maybe I won't need that torque anyway. I had no idea anything besides 12's were an option until today. Thanks for your help.
You bet.
Exactly what I was looking for! Do you recommend this turntable over the new LP140?
I haven't used the at-lp140xp, but from what I have seen and read, it is designed specifically for mixing and scratching. If I were buying new today, I would pick the at-lp140xp over the 120. Also, the current version of the at-lp120, which is the at-lp120x, is actually less suitable for DJ use than the original model.
Droid Approved good to know! I’m a CDJ DJ myself, but I want to buy my first pair of turntables. Technics are to expensive for me. Maybe the LP140 are a good match for me
I'm sure they will work well for you. Enjoy. Personally, I have more fun with turntables than CDJs.
Droid Approved thanks!
@@DroidApproved Hey! What would you do? Pioneer PLX 1000 + Concorde Element or the LP140?
What needles r u using? I might get a second to make my house mixes I used to do in the 90s. I also want a mixer for I will be doing it from original records to record mixing. I hat using software to beat match. Any suggestions on needles a mixer. Thanks.
I'd recommend the Ortofon Concorde mk2 Scratch. As far as the mixer, what is your budget?
@@DroidApproved Well i ordered the concord Mk2 club(yellow one) and the numark M4 Black 3 channel. Im sure that will be ok. Just now trying to see which second turntable i wanna pair my original at LP120 with, I think the new ones arent as good as the original ones. Maybe the next up at lp 140x?
I think the 140 would be a good choice.
Would you consider moving the pre amp .
Personally, no. IMO that sort of modification addresses audiophile concerns.
What are the difference between that model and At Lp-140?
The short answer is that the 140 is a better turntable designed specifically for DJing. I would recommend the 140 over the 120 for DJing.
Hey mate, great review, I have had my eye on these for a while and I think you've sold me on them. Technics are very expensive where I live currently so that was always outta the question and this seems a much better option price wise. I was wondering, I am not a scratch dj, I play a lot of minimal tech and I like to run long blends when mixing, how does this model hold up with that kind of mixing?
I find them to be good for long blends. I play House, Techno, and DnB, and all of their subgenres, so I also tend to long transitions (two to four minutes). You might need to adjust here and there during the mix, but I find that is also the case for me even using Technics. I have some Tech House mixes up using these decks if you want to check them out.
I will check em out for sure. Have you ever used the Pioneer PLX-500 and if so can you offer a comparison?
I have not used those. From what I understand, they are based off the same model, which is the Hanpin 3560 as mentioned in the video.
Aha, ok cool so the AT is essentially the same but less expensive. That's good to know
Exactly.
Did you end up removing the pre-amps from these?
Nah.
Pretty nice review
The starting torque is the same, but the sustained torque is not, so I would recommend riding the pitch for beat matching as opposed to brushing or pushing the platter. In my experience, the pitch control is quite stable and solid. The Audio-Technica is not the same as a Technics, but it is something that is definitely usable if you can't get 1210s. I hope this helps.
yes it will help me a lot, the sustain of the board is essential for the progressive mix especially without time code ... I'm afraid to buy and see that the vinyl is two rounds of platter when I touch it :)
Thanks man.
Cheers from France.
finally I bought a pair.
You were right, the engine does not brush or push in good conditions ... I'll have to get used to beat matching with the pitch because it is very accurate.
I put greaseproof paper under the slipmat while waiting for butter ruggs ... it works very well.
What about AT95E?
Riding the pitch is a good habit. I beat match that way with Technics as well. Once I drop the track in, I very rarely touch the record or platter. As far as the Audio Technica cartridges, I don't think they're great for DJing. I use Ortofon and Shure.
@@DroidApproved what cartridges you recommend for the lp120? what models you have in the video?
What's the USB digital conversion sound like ? And is that easy to set up?
I'm sorry, but I have never used that feature.
It's ok but you will get better sound by using the analogue audio cables. Most PC software will work with either connection type.
What’s the needle used here?
Ortofon Q-Bert Scratch.
What mixer are you using?
That is a Pioneer djm-900nxs2.
So lucky. MK2's and. MK5's sweet...... how much are those?
I got a great deal on the mk2s. I got the pair of turntables with cartridges and extra needles, a janky mixer, and a coffin for $250. I paid $1000 for the pair of mk5s.
What’s the best stylus you recommend?
Any tips regarding fixing skipping on records?
That depends. Are you using the turntable for mixing and/or scratching or just regular playback?
That's a tough one. You can sometimes repair skips due to light scratches by very briefly (like two or three seconds) running the flame from a cigarette lighter over the scratched area. Then, immediately rub your finger back and forth over that area in the direction of the grooves. I have had that work for me in the past. Please like and subscribe if you haven't.
Anyone know if mixing works with the LP60’s??
No. That turntable is a belt drive without a pitch control. It is designed for playback only.
Droid Approved thankyou. what needle do you use?
I am currently using the Ortofon Scratch mk2, but if you're budget conscious the Audio Technica at-xp3 is also good.
Hello!! I am from Argentina, here there is a very strong economic crisis and this is the only opportunity for my pocket to be able to acquire my first vinyl turntables, could you help me with a doubt ?, I only mix melodic techno, house, deep house, I do not scratch I could only mix tracks with each other using only the pitch ?, since from what I see the pitch is of good quality and you only mix them with the pitch, you should skip pushing the plate forward ?, push the plate forward trying pairing makes it sound very bad ?, I would like you to advise me on this, I would like to be able to push the plate forward haha sounds weird but that feeling I want to have it, great video :D
I suppose it would be possible, but you would need to use an extremely light touch.
@@DroidApproved What kind of mixing technique do you use to mix with the LP120? Do you always try to make track B (entering) play faster than track A and do you play plate B by braking it to accommodate it? I mean that always track B is necessarily going to be faster in pitch than to only apply braking and not a push forward, I would like to know how you do it, thanks for answering: D
No. I just use the pitch control.
One of my 1200’s MK 2 finally died after 30 yrs so i may get one of these
You will certainly notice a difference, but it's not bad for the price.
Droid Approved That was my feelings also, not much can stand against the 1200’s but this appears to be a good buy at $250 just wish i had something like this in 1987 vs a affordable pair of belt driven Gemini’s :)
LOL. Well yeah, so to recap: Not as good as a 1200, but a hell of a lot better than a belt drive Gemini. Good luck!
Hi, What’s the track you are playing?
That is my own track called XVI O Five off the Summer of Techno EP, which you can find on Beatport or Juno Download. Here are are the links.
www.beatport.com/track/xvi-o-five-slovenian-mix/12243710
www.junodownload.com/artists/Brian+Durante/?facet%5Blabel_facet%5D%5B0%5D=314techno
nice 👌
Did you ever do a review of the at-lp120x ?
Sadly, I have not. From what I understand, the 120x would not be as good for DJing as the original 120.
@@DroidApproved might I ask why you say that? I’d love to get a pair of 120s 2nd hand but none are available in my area so new 120x’s seem like the next best choice
The sustained torque of the original at-lp120 is at the bottom threshold of what I would consider useful for DJ applications. From what I have read, the at-lp120x is even lower than that. I suppose it could be possible to use them for mixing and scratching, but I can't imagine that it would be an enjoyable experience.
@@MrUrg-vq4yb I've got a brand new one still in the box with original receipt with shrink wrap from 2014!! Thought this turntable was for home enjoyment and the more I research I'm finding this turntable is for "scratching" . The tone arm does NOT return, it is fully manual. Heck even the cheap record players from the 50's and 60's all had automatic tone arms!! Guess we are going backwards as far as quality and comfort are concerned! Still looking for one? Make me an offer?
@@Tunz909 $100. Inbox me and lets talk if your getting read of it still.
Is it bad to scratch on lp60 ?
That is a belt driven turntable. It is not designed for scratching.
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What about AT LP 120X?
I have not used the 120x, but looking at the specifications, it does not seem to be as well suited for DJ use as the original 120.
@@DroidApproved i have to choose between that and the pioneer lpx-500
I haven't used either of those, but I would think that the plx-500 is closer to the original 120.
Will a technics 1200 dust cover fit audio technica LP 120
Yes, but they come with dust covers, and you can buy replacements for around $35-40.
@@DroidApproved good to know thanks 👍
Whatever reason not to get technics is the high price...yes we know it is a very good "investment" but some just cannot afford them.
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why are they worse than technics 1210?
The build quality on a Technics is unmatched. Also, the torque on the at-lp120 is considerably less.
@@DroidApproved i heard that its the same guy who build the 2
Nah. I explain all this in the video.
The 120 isn’t meant for DJing ! You need the 140xp , much better than that
I also have a pair of Technics 1200mk2, a pair of Technics 1200mk5, and a pair of at-lp1240s. Trust me, I know what DJ turntables are. 😉
dumped my atlp 5 due to similar problems with motor noise and overall poor sound. that others have experienced.. replaced with a rega plannar 2... same price as these cheapo hanpin decks but in a totally different league...
I did not mention anything about poor sound or motor noise. Also, neither of the decks you mentioned are suitable for mixing or scratching. This review is for DJs who are considering using these decks for mixing and scratching.
RP 2 has wowand flutter more than the lp 120.
Good review...
unfortunately the lp120 is piss poor for heavy use.
I had to put plastic underneath my slip mat, they are fine for using in your home, practicing on and fine for beginners.
They definitely shouldn’t cost more then $200.
All plastic construction, thin rca cable and incredibly wobbly feet, make this a less than stellar purchase.
I used technics for over fifteen years and now I have Stanton ST150’s, was curious about the lp120... should have left it at that.
Fair enough opinion. I have two pairs of Technics (a pair of mk2s and a pair of mk5s) in addition to the at-lp120s. At the end of the day, as I said, go with Technics if you can. Also, as I said, I still recommend the at-lp120 for home use.
I'd get Technics, if they weren't over 2000 dollars...
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It's pronounced Techneeks not Technicks.
I'm a jock from back in the 80s early 90s. If your a good jock you can make any turntable sound great. We never dealt with this bullshit. I mean this in a nice way. We just mixed. Our SYNC BUTTON ...was a good mix.
No turntable I have ever used had sync on it. I use my ears and the pitch control.
DJING brakes on about face See ya later.
No. Go for Reloop RP8000's you will never look back. 👍
I have heard good things about the Reloop. That is also another Hanpin based turntable. However, the 8000 is considerably more expensive than the at-lp120, more than twice the cost. Also, personally, I'm not interested in having the midi control incorporated into the turntable. I would always recommend the modular solution.
@@DroidApproved I use Serato, through a Behringer DDM
4000, digitised through a Denon DS1 and with a Reloop Neon for added fun. 👍
The ddm4000 is a great mixer for the price. It is one of my favorites, especially with the Infinium crossfader installed. For the most part, my laptop is mainly for show. Most of the time I use regular vinyl.
Too bad they f'ed them up by adding a pre-amp.
The pre-amp does not affect the turntable's performance in the least when it comes to back cueing, scratching, or beat matching records, which is the point of this review.
Ugh couldn’t get through the whole video with the constant clearing of the throat, annoying but made my choice and not buying them🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️