I changed my mind about the Audio Technica LP-120 turntable | FULL REVIEW
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I own this turntable. Bought it for $249 about 4 years ago. It performs and sounds great. I have not had any issues with the sonics of the platter or the plinth. Upgraded the stylus on the 95E to the nude 'N' model . About a year ago, I hooked it up to a Schiit Mani and I cannot ask for more. Incredible sound for little money.
I’ve put the VM95ML on mine and it sounds amazing.
What counts more is the phono stage I've got the Ifi Phono hooked to a Micro Seiki from the 80's with a simple AT95 cartridge and the combo destroys any streaming crap.
@@margix1172 I have the iFi Zen phono stage too. Nice 👌
@@djme-123 Did it make a difference in volume? I have to turn volume up twice as high as CD to have same volume level.
@@teckertime There are 3-4 different volume or gain settings on it so you should get close to CD level
just ordered one for my 16 year old daughter who had me drag my LPs out of the garage after 25+ years and already bought some new ones for herself, this review confirms that I made the right choice, she'll use it with active bookshelf speakers in her room, not on a 10k system. Glad I found this new look at it!
The plastic doesn't bother anyone here, for looks I'd go with wood, but those are not in the 16th b'day price range 😀
I bought this turntable five years ago and have been pleased with it. I upgraded the cart to an ATVM540ML and it sounds terrific. I’m saving up for a better turntable, but this one has served me well as a starter unit.
The VM 540 ML is a very good cartridge. If you are in direct drive turntables, then try a RELOOP RP 7000 MK2.
I made the same upgrade to mine and love how it sounds.
To be pleased is deciding factor but in reality three factors count - lowest tracking force, dynamic mass of needle and total mass of cartridge . Unfrortunately with mass of cartridge comes usualy mass and size of whole arm which by my judgement for best turntables shoud be 2-3 times lighter
I'm looking to upgrade from my LP-120 too! Would love to know what you had in mind.
@@---pc9lr Ortofon Concorde Club MK2
I've owned this over a year and have had no issues. Loved it right out of the box. The value is too good to pass up. I highly recommend it for the pricepoint. I agree with the lighter, cheaper plastic feel and wish it had more weight. But once it's setup, I don't need to feel that aspect again. Good videos. 👍
this is where i landed after the all in one and suitcase players. to me it’s a great player as most people can’t afford much over its price, or at least my circle of friends can’t. thanks for reviewing Frank!
I hate the look of suitcase players not for me
Thank you for your review! I had been considering purchasing one of these. I have a need for that 78 rpm setting and intended on this being a dedicated player, but now I'm considering making it my permanent secondary table. Take care and glad to see you back!
I just bought mine a week ago, and I like how it feels for me. It's actually the most expensive turntable I've ever bought, so for my own experience, it feels much more premium than others I've had in the past. I haven't experienced much higher-end turntables, so for me, this is a good fit. Thank you for your review!
I also bought it recently. It is probably the best record player in this price category (definitely better than the weird Auna and so on...). For a high-rise apartment where you can hear the neighbors and the elevator, it is pointless to buy something of higher quality. The RIAA preamp is really bad though...
@@Lulubo1I bought one at Christmas and it’s great for the price…I paid just over $400 Australian for it but it didn’t come with the digital download functions which I don’t think many people would use anyway the turntable is connected to a Technics amp
Good to see you back Frank? Great review and presentation of this
Thanks for the rundown. Good job.
I bought the Audio Technica LP120xUSB on sale about 6 months ago. Changed to the AT95ML stylus and Schiit Mani 2 phono pre-amp. Great improvements. Think I'll stick with this combination.
A really good review. I've been using this deck for a bunch of years now to digitize old 45s to post on my YT Channel. I am very happy with it and have pretty much done all of the mods suggested in this video, essentially changing out the cart for an AT3600l (sometimes with the Carbon Fidelity stylus), adding a cork and rubber mat, an Auralex isolator pad and running it through a Schiit Mani/Loki preamp-processor combo. I have not yet removed the built-in preamp but that too is on the schedule. My main system upstairs uses an ATLP-7 deck with an Ortofon Bronze and the same Schiit Mani/Loki setup. I do have a mounted Ortofon Blue for that system which I am not presently using and perhaps I'll try that on the 120. I never thought of it until I read this post. Thx!
It's good to see you back, dear Frank, I bought this turntable 4 years ago and believe me I LOVE it, I have another technics and it's excellent, but the AT really does it justice and has given me a lot of satisfaction. Currently, it is still working and in excellent condition despite what many say, I don't really find anything wrong with it and I'm telling you that I've been collecting records and turntables for 40 years. Anyway, my best wishes and welcome back again.
I use a garrard 4hf for playing on a daily basis, and only used to use a 1200 for ripping my collection, and can't help but wonder if I should use one of these Chinese snides for ripping.
Even if its just for clean ripping without imparting the sonics of the 60 year old 4hf that I love so dearly
@@defcreator187 technics is over priced aklnd over hyped have you looked at the at dj turn table
Technics sl1200mk2 was a big jump
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Useful review, and I pretty much agree with all of it. We are a small CD/LP retailer, and we also sell some equipment, including this turntable. We have sold a number of them, and everyone really likes it. We've had ZERO issues with it, including our store demo which is probably over two years old now, and gets used a lot.
You are correct about the older 120's. SOME of them (earlier production), had issues with the anti-skate spring being too soft. A.T. sells a replacement spring to correct this. I have done the repair myself at the store shop, and it's not a fun/easy repair - it's a bit involved, but it does fix the problem. You are also correct about the older 120's having VTA adjustment - which worked ok, BUT, it was not capable of lowering the tonearm much below level, so it was pretty much a one-way adjustment; only semi useful.
All of the pros you mentioned are the reasons we recommend this table so highly. Granted, it is not perfect. But we cannot hardly find anything else that competes solidly at this price point. Another thing I would mention is that it has threaded, adjustable feet for leveling. My > $1k Linn Axis (an oldie, and goodie otherwise), does not even have that!
I have the older model with the high adjustment and popup light. I got it for the 78 RPM capability. I picked up a seperate headshell and 78 cartridge, along with a different mat. I have to say I've been happy with it, got it on sale for $399 CDN.
I have this turn table. The first thing I did was replace the cartridge with the ortofon red. In my opinion it made a big difference in the sound. It's definitely worth a look.
I've done the same thing too. Made a world of difference.
Interesting that red ortofon has been fitted and good comments , however I did the same and I have to say I heard a lot of surface noise. I'm interested to hear did you guys do any adjustments. ? Billy from bonny scotland
@@williamsomerville9487 I added a cork mat, aftermarket preamp and a record weight but that's about it. Sounds great for me
Also changed the cartridge within a week, it was way way too bright. Ortofon OM10, a lateral move, same class/price range as the VMN95E, but a huge difference for me.
Me too! The red Ortofon was a game changer!!
I love mine!! Good to see you back
I've sold many here at my record store, both new and used, and everyone has been quite pleased with their purchase. It's an excellent value and you'd only be aware of it's shortcomings, as to feel and performance, if you were already experienced with an actual Technics SL-1200.
That's the truth. Picking up a real Technics and feeling the weight and build of those things, nothing compares.
My kids gave me one of these 3 years ago, and sparked my return to vinyl. It's performed really well, and sounded pretty darn good in it's stock form played through my old Lazarus phono stage. A stylus upgrade to the Shibata profile made a notably audible improvement. Encouraged, I upgraded the stock cables, stock mat, and added sorbothane feet under it. Eventually I coated the underside of the platter with several thick coats of flex-seal to help damp the platter (more like the LP140 has), then added Plasticine modeling clay under the plinth to add more mass and damp that. Next I added a record weight for more mass (not for record flattening). Orthodontia rubber bands along the tonearm, and weighted grip tape to the counterweight completed the tweaks. Individually none of these small steps makes much of a difference, but all totaled they definitely add up to another level of improvement....enough so that I eventually added a cart upgrade to a Nagaoka MP500 stylus. It's a hot rod now that'll surprise a lot of seasoned turntable veterans.
Now add some bricks and mortar.....🙄
Hello to Scott Spencer I have the t-120 I also did the same with my platter I used rubberised undercoating but I am going to try the flex seal cause the undercoating was not thick enough for me my cables upgraded them used the o-rings on my tone arm and using a record wieght on my record also improved the bass response made it clearer even though I do not use my at-120 much I am going to try that Plasticine clay just for curiosity sake thanks for this I thought by doing these small little things would not work but they do but I thought I was a lttle wacko for doing this I never told anybody what I did to my TT did not think people would see me as normal ,just a crazy music lover JRo
@@jro7075 Those little steps all add up. Maybe not normal, but puts you a step ahead! ;-D
@@jro7075 "Normal" is relative, LOL. Most "normal" systems in my price range sound like what I owned getting started in the early 80s....they're "fine"...."good" even by a lot of people's standards, but largely nothing special.
The equipment most working stiffs can afford is built to a price point and has significant limitations compared to what's truly possible. The manufacturing costs are in the range of 20-25% of actual retail.....your $2000 speakers had to be built for $400-$500 USD. There's no harm in correcting whatever limitations we're able to, and enhancing performance here and there.
Once we get past the mystique of a brand name, and realize a logo is nothing more than a marketing symbol that savvy businesses seek to exploit profit from, it's easier to be realistic about what we have and what we don't have. Most speakers, amps, and TTs (etc.) are fair game for upgrades for a curious DIYer. Don't let people keep you from trying because they don't think it'll make a difference. Doing nothing will literally result in no improvements, but trying something just might. Be curious....just be smart about it, and give things some thought and research before diving in. You only have to please your ears, so those are the ones to trust. Enjoy the journey! 😎
I love these turntables, they're extremely solid and sound great.
The one advantage the LP120 has over the SL1200 is that it can play 78 rpm records.
I have a few thousand records, not 1 78rpm.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Thanks for that. Some of us do have several 78s. I need something to digitise them with.
"advantage" 🤣
There’s a modification that can be done to a 1200 to play 78’s where when both the 33 and 45 rpm buttons can be pressed at the same time for 78 rpm. (33 + 45 = 78)
The MK4 and 1200GR have 78 on them@@NickP333
I have this turntable and the first thing I did was to take it apart and deadened the casing with deadening material. When I knock it with my knuckle, it’s dead. The deadening material has metal outer layer and it creates a Faraday cage effect where it’ll block electromagnetic waves from escaping from or entering into the casing.
This is the beauty of this turntable. It’s not too pricey for you to mod it and you can take it apart and figure out a way to make it better.
That was a good review Frank and good to see you were open to see how it performed and impartial from the start.I use the Audio Technica LP5X and swapped the cartridge for the Ortofon red and just love it. Keep on spinning 👍
Also try the ATVM95L with it when you can.
I have had this turntable for over a year now and it sounds really good. I also do not use the usb or pre amp, have no idea if it works well or not. I replaced the felt mat with cork. Will be upgrading to Ortofon red soon, previous commenters have me convinced! Thanks for the honest review, will be using the AT LP-120 for the foreseeable future. Cheers Frank!
HI FRANK,Great review i will have to look at this TT seriously.i have the Fluance in mind for some time also! Thanks
I bought the older model back in 2018 and it's still working great. I ran it stock for a year or so, then I did the true bypass mod and was quite surprised at how much the integrated pre-amp was stepping on the audio signal even when switched to bypass. Also dampened the platter with dynamat that I cut using a template to ensure evenly balanced weight distribution. About a year after that I did the anti skate mode, which was VERY DIFFICULT. The tone arm disassembly was a very tedious process. I just cut off a portion of the anti skate spring and stretched the spring a bit to fit it. Years later and the anti skate still works great.
As far as the cartridge goes, I've been satisfied with both the at95e and the vm95e. I damaged the at95e stylus when I moved and just bought the vm95e to replace it. I considered upgrading to something nicer, but I was so satisfied with the at95e that I got the vm95e. They say the vm95 series styli won't fit the at95 series cartridge, buuuuut they definitely do.
Speakers: Fluance Ai61
Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW10
Pre-amp: U-Turn Audio Pluto
PS I'm currently working on a 3d printable alignment protractor for the vm95e. It's a two piece protractor that only takes a few seconds to perfectly align to the "lofgren a" geometry. I'll probably forget about this comment so lmk if anyone would be interested in the STLs. I'm testing it on the older version of this turntable, but I think it should work on this updated version as well. I should have it done in a week or so.
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The LP-120 is my main rig. I’m enjoying it for now as it was an upgrade from my previous record player (a Sony which I got off of a stoop for no cost at all). I want to upgrade at some point, but it does the trick for now. Again, as you said, value for money.
generally speaking, AT makes some great stuff. I use the M40x headphones in audio production all the time, my AT540ml cart is phenomenal, and the AT120E I had before that was pretty darn good too. I too have had an aversion to the LP120 line over the years, but have often been intrigued about their tables further up the line and would consider them for a 'new' turntable anytime.
I love all of my Audio Technica products. Super solid brand that has a phenomenal history in both the consumer and professional audio world. There’s so much to love about this record player and it’s sound is definitely in that list. For those of us that can’t spend over a thousand dollars on a record player, this one is perfect.
I have an lp120x, I purchased a silver one on ebay as a return with parts missing, so I took a punt and got it for £99. I wanted a deck for a second room as I already owned a Rega P8 in my main room. The part that was missing was the little light and I got a replacement direct from Audio Technica for £6. I used the pre-amp on a Rega IO amp and have B&W 607 S2 speakers. Installed a 2M blue cart and it has been a great table and sound really good.
I have now replaced it with a technics 1210gr and moved the LP120x to my office connected to the Aux Port of a BT speaker using the built in Pre-amp. The technics defintly sounds better, but for the money I think LP120x is a fantastic turntable, that any one can be proud to own one. It can definitely be paired with a good cartidge and good components and not be a weak link.
Im a dj for more than 10 years (started young) and was saving to buy a pair of technics, decided to try this instead of waiting to save 2k dollars to pay something i dont even know if ill like... thanks for your honest review!! Seems like a solid entry level turntable with decent capabilities for us entry level users
Back when I first started into my Vinyl journey, I went through 3 LP-120's in under a month. I had 2 power failures and one motor failure. I was able to exchange them. I gave up after the 3rd one and bought an 80's Technics sl-1200 M2, spent a little on KAB upgrades and have been completely satisfied. I use a 2m blue and bronze for my Jazz and Prog and it's unbeatable by any normal setup I have ever heard. (cheap Digital receiver, SHiit mani2, used Klipsh Cornwall IV)
Frank, thanks so much for your opinion (pros & cons) about Technica LP120. You said a mouth full - to my understanding of course.
I just bought this a few days ago. I love it. It does everything I want and need and love the look of it.
I'm still running my Technics 1210 from the 80's it's been rock solid.
I've had one for a couple of years, and I bought it for the reasons you stated as pros. Plus, I like that I can choose to Bluetooth my records to monitor speakers, or hook the turntable up to a receiver. I was hearing some sibilance on my older records and replaced the cartridge with an AT-VM95ML headshell, which improved the sound. I also upgraded the platter mat. I haven't yet tried the USB capability.
I got a 95EN. It's a lot better than the 95E that it comes with.
As always a fair and honest review thanks Frank!
I have had my 120 for 2.5 years and it has served me well with my return to vinyl after almost 30 yrs away
Only issue I have really heard about is the onboard preamp can cause issues even if switched off. This Muddy’s the sound a bit regardless of using an external phono preamp or one built into a receiver. There is a mod where people remove the module and it supposedly ‘brightens’ the sound up.
I got mine for $299USD and it now goes for $399! May be better options at that price range now.
Keep on spinnin’!
I have an earlier model , with an upgraded mono cartridge and rigged the rca jacks with adapters to output a single channel feed combining the right n left channels for a true mono experience, I use it strictly for 78’s and older mono 45’s and it sounds amazing. You are correct mine has the vertical adjustment which is a good plus for playing thick 78 records and the strobe light is a pop up, mine is the silver model which is very heavy and appears more upscale and less “ plastic” looking , my vintage pioneer turntable I use for my LPs and newer records , great reviews!! 16:07
I have an older AT-PL120, I use it with a Bellari vacuum tube pre-amp and love it. Thanks for the heads up on the RPM app, I will be using it from time to time.
Hey, pretty cool you were able to get mentioned in the WinnipegFreePress :) was a nice little read.
Thank you!
Great vid! Thanks!!!
Glad you liked it!
I just purchased this turntable last week, I'm getting back into vinyl. I used to be a mobile DJ who played on Technics Sl1200's. Since I don't do that any longer I just wanted something nice to play in my home office. I'm very pleased with this unit. I agree that the plastic housing is a bit disappointing and I would have preferred to pay a little extra cash to have tone arm height adjustment, however I find that for listening purposes it performs well. A couple of things I like about this unit is the fact I can play 33,45 and 78 along with Quartz Lock and pitch control. I have a FOSI Audio BOX X2 coming in today and I will use that instead of the internal pre-amp. I also like the cartridge that came with it, tracks well. I will probably pick up the AT-VM95ML next just to have an extra.
Truth be told...for an entry level TT....it is really nice. All the best Frank.
I agree.
I’m a technics fan and I love my SL1210s but for anyone starting to get into vinyl I think the LP120 is a good start. It’s gotta be better than a Crossley ! Excellent review video ! Thanks Frank 🙏👍
Thanks Frank. I had looked at one of these turntables. I'm a diehard Dual fan but I like this for the 78rpm option. Appreciate your time.
I had a pair of 1210s myself, but I did something dumb in 2008... I now have a pair of Pioneer cdj 900s and a djm 900 Nexus mixer. I came across an at120 for under 200 bucks at guitar center, and I have a throwback crate of mostly breaks. And another crate of everything else. The AT is definitely no 1210, but it's not bad indeed. The pitch adjustment actually feels better than my old 1210s since my old 1210s were in need of maintenance. But I'm definitely impressed. I wouldn't use it on a soundsystem because of the hollow feeling plinth. I remember we had a problem in a warehouse with a pair of Numark tt1s, which also had a thin plinth, and it caused a feedback loop. Luckily, we were in North Austin, and everyone had 1200s, 1210s and md3s back then so some magically appeared, and we partied happily ever... until the cops shut it down
It is not really fair to compare this Audio Technica to a real Technics 1200 tt. It may very well have a decent sound at a decent price point but one really shouldn't expect the Audio Technica to be in the same class as the Technics 1200 that have passed the test of time like few other turntables. There is a good reason that the Technics has such a good reputation and it's mainly because of the build quality. If the Audio Technica is still working like it's new like many Technics 1200's do after 40 or 50 years then it is truly a bargain and worthy of a good reputation as well. I don't doubt that the Audio Technica is a good turntable to start out with as a Technics 1200 is very pricey for someone that is just starting out with playing vinyl.
@richard westmoreland my 1210s needed service so my AT actually sounds just as good as long as I'm not using it on a club soundsystem (I suspect the plinth may create a feedback loop at the Numark tt1 metal plinth did at a warehouse party in the early 2000s so luckily the coffin with ther 1200s arrived) and the pitch is just as accurate for me personally. I'm not saying you aren't correct. I got rid of my Technics in 2008. I just happened to find a used AT120 at Guitar Center after the last stimulus check. I like it a lot. It doesn't have the torque for scratching but it's definitely fine for beat matching. The torque on the Wheels of Steel is what people I've known, plus the rubber and solid build is why they were such a club staple. Otherwise, I think the at120 sounds just as good for home use. But I'm no expert which I'm sure is apparent and my hearing has been damaged by music and construction work
Hello to Andy Shacks good for you having the technics if you can afford it is great TT one of the turntables nobody can match even pioneer makes one also it looks nicer to me than audio technica but just wanted to say in a respectfull manner that crosley also makes one just like the audio technica all these TT's come from the same manufacturer handpin they have the c-100 which is a direct drive and the c-200 which is belt drive its ok but if you have the funds to buy the better TT get the technics if I wanted a manual thats the one I would get JRo
I've had mine since 2015. I have the Ortofon S-120 cartridge on it and works great. Never skips and tracks really well. I do like the TT but I have had issues with the tonearm dropping so I had to add fluid but I ended up overfilling it so it takes like 10 seconds to lower the tonearm now lol. I've also had the tonearm lock break twice. Other than that it's been pretty solid. I'm not an audiophile so I just use it with a DJ mixer and a pair of Samson monitor speakers. I just recently picked up the Lp60 to build a little setup in my front living room. Got the Crowley SoHo stand in black and a Audio Technica Bluetooth speaker (hooked up via aux input) and it works and sounds pretty good!
Nice video! Having owned 1200's since the 80's, I was in the market for new TT's and got a pair Reloop 7000 MK2 two years ago and as a DJ I'm very happy with them. Can mix with them just as good as 1200's and for much less.
Love your set up!
Thanks!
I bought my son one for Christmas and I must say that I was surprised how good it sounds. Money well spent in my opinion.
What number should the anti skating adjust to and what number should the weight on the tone arm should be
I got mine for $207 US from ABT start of 2020. Went with this rather than LP60 cause I wanted to get more quality for the money and figured this is something I'll be enjoying for many many years.
Perfect starter turntable, and had to take advantage of that price.
Hi I've only just come across your review of this turntable..just wanted to ask is the next one up any better being the ATL140 XP?as I read its a heavier turntable that would be better for vibration problems?
I'm thinking of budget but obviously bang for buck without forking out a lot of dosh that'll do same kind of job as Technics or maybe Pioneer 1000?
I've had a few turntables over the years and the technics featured in your video is my latest. It was £250 brand new and I love it. Easy to use and has great sound. Excellent value for money.
Hey Frank, my wife bought me an LP120 back in 2015 abd and 3 records. It was the beginning of my record collection. Now I'm up to about 800 records and spin on an AT-LP7 belt drive turntable great unit. But I was amazed how much they cheapened LP120 down. From the vertical tracking being removed, getting rid of the popup light, and it being a little lighter a few more things obviously have been changed. All in all it was a great starter table. I would recommend it to anyone getting into vinyl. Cheers
Thanks for sharing!
Such a lucky man to have such a wonderful wife.
Can you help me please..a replacement stylus will not fit on this model..I bought one from Amazon that says compatible with this model..the plastic on the stylus that came with the unit has a round tip while the replacement has a square tip that does not fit in properly..please help me with this thank you
I've owned mine for two years, and it has been a very reliable TT. Once you level it, the rubber feet are firmly planted and the machine will not move unless you yank it violently. It was $229 US when I bought it new, and there was no other direct drive TT competing at that price. Even if you only upgrade the stylus of the included cartridge to a VMN95ML, it will sound way better. I suggest replacing the platter mat with a better one, though. My upgrades were an AT-VM540ML cartridge, and a Hudson HiFi silicone rubber platter mat. I also have a mono cart for the few mono records I own. I connect it to a Cambridge Alva Solo external pre-amp going to a Cambridge AXR-100 receiver. Sounds fab to me!
For the budget-conscious, this LP120XUSB is a great performer. Would I want a Technics? Sure, but I'm in no rush. I'd probably get an SL-1200Mk7, SL-100C or an SL-1500C. Oh BTW, Technics manufactures their TT's in Malaysia. I guess it doesn't have as much stigma as China, even though both companies do their R&D in their home of Japan.
Can the planter be sprayed underneath with Flex Seal rubber spray to help dampen the vibrations?
This was my upgrade after starting out with a suitcase style player and I couldn't be happier with that choice. I've had it for four months and immediately upgraded the platter to a Hudson Acrylic, which looks great. After reading some comments I may give a separate pre amp a shot. I appreciate reading all the different stylus options folks have tried. I am happy with the stock stylus, but will definitely upgrade when it's time.
I have it set up in metal shelves and hooked up to a shelf stereo system. I keep the speakers on stands that do not touch the shelves and I have never noticed any sort of flutter or extra vibration or additional noises from the plastic or aluminum platter.
For those who are extra creative, I got the plain, clear translucent platter and made a collage on Photoshop and placed it beneath the clear platter so I am looking at a custom picture of my favorite college football players and moments instead of the blank slate of the aluminum and holes.
For stylus options for this table at a good price, check out Sumiko cartridges. i found that Grado on this table gets a bit "muffled", or muddy and brings out the mids a bit too much. Sure carts work great on this table but since they aren't making carts anymore the prices got ridiculous. Ive used many different brands of carts on this table and the best value vs. sound, ive found Sumiko to pair very well especially considering price. Consider the Sumiko Pearl, Goldring E1, Ortofon Red, or Nagaoka MP-110.
On mine I have noticeable hum on the noise floor when using the internal preamp. If you switch to phono out this hum does not appear. The USB needs the internal preamp and I want to use it. I use the noise reduction effect in Audacity to cancel the hum. I am working on a circuit to clean up the 12V from the transformer.
Really good, fair, review I thought. Do you have any thoughts of recommendation for "one level up" turntable with digitalizing capability? Thanks again, great review.
Thanks for the vid. I put silicone on any metal that rings.
I have 3 Technics 1200's and an Audio Technica 120 (a few years old). It's used in my office system, and I usually play records that are a little beat up on it. I love it. It should great and overall is great for its cost. Especially if you find a used one.
I love this turntable. I got it mainly because it can play my collection of 78 rpm records. Yes I use a special cartridge for my 78's. I still use an older Onkyo CA 1016-A Turntable for my 45's and 33's.
Welcome back, Frank 👍
I’ve had my 120 for a few years, and I wouldn’t swap it. I’m sure if I spent a grand or two, I could get better sound (which I’m sceptical of), but I’m more than happy with it.
I’m running with using a Ortofon 2M Bronze. Completely removed the pre-amp, and now running it through a pro-next Tube Box S2. Running into a Marantz SR6014.
The thing sings like a bird. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as the saying goes, and I have numerous people come over, whose eyes go like two big saucers whenever I spin a record.
Next upgrade I’m planning on for it is the 2M Black. I already have the a 2M Mono, and the 2M78….
I've been put off this turntable now esp as im looking for a table
that has an app or remote so i can turn it off from my bed also
i need a player where the arm will return at the end of the vinyl
disc got any recommendations ?
I have two 1200 3D and I've had them for about 26 to 27 years and they are still great
Hi Frank. Excellent review. Some people remove the inbuilt Phono Stage by using videos they can watch. They then use their own preferred Phono Stage.
In relation to the Platter ringing. There is a company in the UK called Soundeck and their main business is in the dampening of industrial gas pipes. The Managing Director is a fan of HiFi and they now do a product that helps the dampening of a number of Turntable Platters. There is a video about this on the Audiophile Man TH-cam Channel. Soundeck state the LP120 is one of the Turntables they can help with and the cost was around £30.00 eleven months ago. They ask the client to measure the Platter and send the details via email. They then send the product and instructions in the post for the Client to fit themselves.
I bought this about a year ago. To me, it looks and sounds great. If vinyl was all I listened to, I would have spent more . I'm very happy with it.
I had a limited price range when I bought mine. I found a gently used one for $175. There were 2 things I noticed 1) about a year after I bought it I had an issue with the tone arm dropping on the vinyl. I TH-camd the issue it ended up needing a special lubricant for the tone arm to resolve the dropping issue. 2) the felt pad is a dust and, hair collector. Also it didn't seem to dampen vibration. I went with a cork mat. That made a difference.
Despite the anti-skate mechanism being broken on my early model, I really like it. I think its a perfect TT for beginners.
My main turntable is a Fluance RT-81. I also have a 1byOne turntable as a secondary which was a placeholder replacement for my Kenwood KD-2055 that requires repair (have not had a chance to bring it to a shop).
I used to own this version of
the 120 and I never picked up on any noise from that metal platter, though I used either a leather or acrylic platter mat which likely removed any resonance from that metal platter.
I also used an external phono preamp (Fosi Audio X2 Tube phono preamp) and an Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge which sounded excellent.
The thing is this...the 120 has options that ya may not need unless you're a DJ or you're a listener who really needs pitch
that pitch control or you have some 78's to play.
Though I can understand why Frank reviewed the 120 and did a few comparisons to his Technics turntable, the fairer comparison would have been with the Audio Technica
AT-LP140 as it is heavier, has an upgraded motor, vertical tracking and it even has the on/off button for that light...all for $499.
Though the cost cutting on the current Audio Technica 120 is annoying...it's not uncommon.
U-Turn charges $40 extra for their cue arm lever, $12 for their 45 adapter and another $5 for their alignment tool and the feet are not adjustable, to get that option you have to buy their flagship "Theory" turntable for...$999. Their built-in Pluto 2 phono preamp can be an additional $99 if you choose their custom turntable, hence companies have their quirks that are not always consumer friendly, but I digress.
That's why I think Fluance is rather popular, they don't offer options that you may not need but throw in practical options that you will need. For the money in their pricing category, they offer the best practical value in my opinion, but that's just me.
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I have the old version, the LP120USB. The best thing you can do is completely remove that tone robbing internal preamp from the circuit. Made a _massive_ improvement in sound quality.
Besides that, I rewired the tone arm with Cardas wire, installed a Mogami RCA cable, sprayed the underside of the platter with rubberized undercoating, lined the inside of the plinth with sound deadening material and installed better feet. Not worth it, but it was fun.. Would've been better off with a used SL-1200, TBH. 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Frank. I bought my LP120XBT-USB today. I powered it up to Yamaha R-S202. It kicks but. I had an old Technics from my youth I’m 59 now. The old one still works great. I just needed one in two different locals of my house. I love the 120. Thanks for making up my mind.
Congrats on the purchase!
So which version of Bluetooth comes in your new AT LP120XBT?
I gave this turntable to my teenage daughter for her birthday. She loves it!
I have the project elemental turntable with the acrylic platter and it sounds amazing
I own this turntable, it's my "secondary" TT. My main is the lp-1240. First thing that I did was remove the cart and replace it with a Shure m97x and added a cork mat. Big difference. I've owned mine for about 8 years now, with no issues. Mine has the vertical tracking and the pop up light. I must say, that I prefer the removeable light, since, if it ever goes bad, you can easily replace it. I paid $250 US for mine brand new. The 1240 is major upgrade at twice the price. That one's OEM motor and build will get you MUCH closer to your SL-1200 .
Great video. I purchased the Audio-Technica ATLP120XBTUSB with Bluetooth and it's just what I need as a vinyl neophyte who grew up in a household of vinyl but invested in CD technology in the mid-eighties as a teen. Now, I want to start collecting vinyl but I don't want to spend a fortune on an amplifier and I don't have a ton of space, either. This connects to my Klipsch The Nines via Bluletooth 5.0 and sounds amazing. I love Technics, as well, but you really need to analyze the depth of your hobby affliction before spending that kind of money on a turntable. Not sure how many people have the ears to detect the difference and be willing to spend 4 times as much for the Technics, but that's the beauty of being an audiophile... choices.
This exact one was my first record player and I can’t complain at all. I felt it would be a great investment and so far I can’t complain. I keep it clean and take great care of it and my vinyls. I only have about 20 vinyls but I play them a lot.
I love mine, I put on an ortofon blue cartridge and it sounds great.
How would I connect my old Sony wired book shelf speakers?
I purchased this unit at Christmas AT had a limited edition bronze one and the Black bronze looks fantastic! besides the look it sounds great My old Sony TT died so needed a replacement. I also bought a Sure AT-VM95EN and wow its astounding how good it sounds.
Hi, can anyone recommend compatible audio for the at-lp120xusb? Thank you 😊
Cool review
Glad to hear it's decent! I just recently ordered a LP120xBT and am waiting for that to get here. Current setup is an inherited JVC QL-A5, inexpensive Pyle pre-amp then into existing TV equipment - Pioneer AVR, Klipsch left, right, center and sub. Just kind of wanted to see if it was something I wanted to invest more time and money into. New turntable is getting paired to some Klipsch powered speakers to start. Interested to see how I adapt to a fully manual table!
I picked up the black/bronze version from Best Buy Canada this past year, basically because it was on sale. Very nice turntable for the price.
I have two of the older AT-LP120-USBs - one I had modified to play transcription discs. Both do the job amazingly well. I'm skeptical about the newer models, though...they seem a bit soft and rushed through production. I'd say if you can find one of the older models, go with them instead. Well worth the money!
Would a Sorbthane sheet help with the ringing of the platter? Of course you might have to be careful with the balancing of applying something like that, making sure that you apply equal amounts around the circumference of the interior of the platter.
It has been my only since 2019 about 800 or so records later. It’s still my only I love it. I cork matt it, fosi pre amped it and upgrade the needle. Love this thing I might have to submit for a vinyl room tour pic.
I bought one because of the flexibility of 3 speed, something unheard of today. Very disappointed in the sound I got from it. It sounded like a blanket was on my speakers. The problem was switching between phone and line, it never truly shut the preamp circuit off. Plenty of videos on this issue. A return to the factory and they shipped it back saying it was within specs. I only put about 20 hours on it before selling it. I bought a Technics SL1200 mk7 Anniversary edition and love it. There is no line/ phono switch that as I suspected was the culprit. Great review.
I appreciated your look at the LP-120, and I felt the same way about how much vibration gets picked up compared to my pair of workhorse 1200mkII's I've been gigging on for years, but I have to disagree with you about one point you made - that LED track light is actually a huge PRO for this table.
Much like the swappable cables that were designed into the LP-120, having a swappable LED instead of one that requires a full disassembly to repair is a god-send to DJs that work in a club/stage environment.
Unfortunately, the lack of dampening is the one thing keeping this deck from being a proper Technics-killer, but since vibration management is the most important thing for us in the DJ world, it makes these 120s a non-starter for most of us.
Dig the channel! Subbed for more! 🤘
Anyone know if the LP120's USB function will still work if the back panel switch is set for an external pre-amp? I'd like to be able to listen to the audio from an external pre-amp whilst still being able to record via the USB.
Does anyone have advice for its use for DJs?
Added a ATVM95ML cartridge and it sounds amazing. Rock solid speed, no rumble or hum.
Love the cartridge. Have heard no inner groove distortion using it.
@@haroldpramhas9807 It’s a fantastic upgrade and Audio Technica make it so simple to swap in and out across the VM95 range. The LP120X sounds way better than it’s price tag with the ML.
@@djme-123 Indeed - if you upgrade to the 95ML you basically have the sound of a turntable that costs much, much more. Incredible upgrade.
@@achtungbabythefly Don’t understand the negativity re the LP120X. Must be snobbery. I ran an A/B test with a Rega P2 for a month and the LP120X was the clear winner? Not even close.
I own an older model with the pop up light etc. and I really like mine.
Yes I have the model turntable in this review. I like it, and it does what I want it to do, play vinyl records. I do not use the internal preamp, I figured it would be utilitarian in nature and nothing to get too excited about. I also moved away from the supplied felt mat in favor of a silicone rubber mat from Hudson Audio. I agree that the light looks a little cheap and oddly styled. But the good thing is the LED points out every speck of dust on the record. Have a carbon fiber brush on hand. Is it built to last? Well lets see. What really needs to out live all the other parts are the bearings on the platter and tonearm assemblies. In short it is a very good turntable that holds a stable speed.
What value did you set the anti Skate?
I have the older ATLP 120 however when I tried to test the antiskate like you did the tone arm did not budge at all. Does this mean mine is defective?
It will play records fine however my friend brought some to play and the tone arm immediately went toward the center but it then played a new record fine after that. If AS worked properly would that have avoided that issue?
Older ATLP 120 has anti skate issues, the newer ATLP120x fixed it
As a Technics owner for over more than 20 years as a DJ, I've been playing a pair a while ago. Not as sturdy as the original ones. But I hear a lot of good things about the lp140. Maybe you should test one of those Frank? Thx for the review! Enjoyed it very much!
140 is nice. Very happy with it.
I had one, loved it, it sounded great. I upgraded to the ML stylus, it sounded amazing ! Sold it because I bought a Technics SL-100C, which inherited my ML stylus.
Great review, I have a Technics SL-BL2 which I've been improving with some tender care, new belt, contact cleaner etc. I may need to dismantle it and regrease it though as I'm still having some issues with the speed control. I've been learning more and more about the variables involved with listening to records now and I'm deciding whether or not to replace it entirely. This review is making me reconsider the LP-120 but it will cost me the same as a Fluance RT82 which comes with an Ortofon OM10 cartridge which is much more expensive cartridge than the ATN95E, I don't suppose you've every tried a Fluance?
Can you connect this to a samsung soundbar