Audio Technica LP-120: TOP 5 UPGRADES!
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To bypass the preamp on the LP 120, one can flip the switch at the back from line to phono then add the preamp as normal.
Hey Jared, thanks for the shout out! Glad my old blog was of assistance. My poor old AT-LP120 eventually died ... power supply failed.
What are you using now?
@@thelastowitch Hopefully a Technics TT
A balancing weight is just that, no more. If the original weight is sufficient to counter-balance any new cartridge you might install, then it's a pointless action to replace the counter-weight. No explanation is offered to "just do it". Do it only if a heavy replacement cartridge requires it.
I don't think he was suggesting that excess stylus pressure [weight] on the record should be added. He was stating that a heavier, replacement counter-balance be purchased, but presumably dialed in to apply the same stylus pressure as with the original counter-weight. Just adding a heavier counter-weight poses no benefit and two negatives: a heavier moving mass to the tonearm, and the expense of the needless purchase.
It makes some sense if you have a low compliance cartridge and you need to increase the tonearm mass.
But the silly S shape tonearm has more than enough mass for a 2M red.
Any cartridge/headshell combination that comes in around 18g or higher will need the heavier counterweight with an LP120. Also, if the heavier weight is used with an AT95e for instance, the counterweight will ride much closer to the pivot, thus possibly improving performance. Worth getting.
Yes, you need a heavy counterweight in case your system is so heavy that it is impossible to balance it to zero. For exact adjustments, use a tonearm scale.
Probably the only reason the heavier counter weight improved tracking was by changing the tone resonance. One needs to be careful to match the tone arm and cartridge for this reason.
I'm so glad that it's finally 2017.
Jarret, i have to thank you you gave me the inspiration to get into vinyl. And i enjoy listening to it
I started my vinyl collection after my friends bought me a Crosley player for my birthday about 6 months back. I recently saved up and bought myself an AT LP120, and your words describe the difference perfectly; it's like night & day! I plan to upgrade my mat soon, but so far it sounds amazing!
I wouldn't bother the felt is fine. Other mats will take away the detail in the sound signatures, unless that's what you want. The best upgrade is to get the ATN95EX stylus
By replacing the weight to a bigger one, you only increase the effective tonearm mass and that's not something you want with a medium mass tonearm like that one.
When it comes to stylus pressure: if it's set at 2, it's set at 2, regardless of the size of the weight.
It's only an improvement when you need the additional adjustment range for a heavy cartridge.
"a smattering of everything, and a knowledge of nothing" Charles Dickens. Read my comment.
@@robertuskoppies444exactly well said.
I really needed this video, THANK YOU!!
+helenehaugenh no problem! 😄
Those are all good suggestions. I've been using, repairing, upgrading, and even built some turntables for 40 years.
You have inspired me to purchase this turntable. I very much love my Audio Techica LP120. After your review of it, I had to have one. The records sound so very clear, and mono records sound as if they were recorded in stereo. Thank you so much for all of the info you provide on your channel.
My new LP-120 arrived at my house today, great timing on the video :)
Your videos are great, keep it up dude.
Hi Jarrett! Thanks for all the time and effort you put in all your videos. I enjoy them VERY much! Just bought an LP120USB two weeks ago and yesterday I've upgraded the catridge to an Ortofon 2m Red. All of this thanks to your recommendations. I'll be sending some vinyl records in your way in the next couple of weeks. Regards from Argentina! Keep spinning that vinyl!
+jgadadi thank you so much! Glad I could help!
Bro, you are a life saver! My record collection is getting much better, but now the sound is getting better because of the tips you share! thanks!
Thanx Bruv, I’ve been using these to DJ for over 20 months. Your so flipping helpful!
Totally invaluable information!!!!!
I took my pre-amp out off my LP-120, and it was day and night...the sound is more detailed and beautiful now. I also bought the Ortofon 2m Red and did not work for me at all, the highs were way too high, sent it back and bought the Audio-Technica VM540ML/H instead and OMG what a difference, IT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL with my Vintage Yamaha Receiver CR-840! Alignment is super important, replacing your Counterweight not necessary at all, and acrylic mat is the best way to go in my opinion.
Your videos have been very helpful for me. Thanks
Thanks for all the advice, I will be recieving my lp-120 in the mail tomorrow and i feel well prepared thanks to your playlist on how to setup the lp-120. :)
All great points. From there just swap out and upgrade the stock plinth, platter, motor, and tone arm and I think we can all agree the turntable will sound and operate like a whole new rig.
...or buy Technics at first place.
Back in the day people did not buy preamps seperately. They came built in on amplifiers and receivers. Therefore, alot of new turntables come with preamps built in, to make up for the fact that modern receivers generally do not have phono preamps.
Love the channel man
Another note is that you also void your warranty by removing the pre-amp, so it might be a good idea to do so after warranty expires.
Hello Vinyl Eyezz,
Thank you for the tips. I managed by now to use 2 of the tips you showed in the video and the sound improved pretty good.
The first tip I used was to replace my old GRIP mat (or rubber mat) with a felt mat (because I couldn't find near me some cork to make my own cork mat) with a felt slipmat (which I made myself, as I am a bit of a DIY'er)
The second thing I did was to properly allign my cartidge. It made a difference on the treble, in terms of a brighter sound.
Also, a thing I did was to make my own phono cables. I used two 6.3mm jacks, two RCA jacks and the most important, I used balanced microphone cable. And now i got rid of the annoying buzz that I got when I switched to phono. For the other devices I'm going to use regular coaxial microphone cables as they carry a much higher signal than the phono cartridge.
Keep up the good work!
This is the channel that I was looking for!
Wow, you are really good, man ! Excellent tips, well explained, funny and useful ! Thanks !!!
I just got my lp120 in the mail today. Thanks for the recommendation, it sounds very nice :D
i have had one for a few years i have made one simple improvement i bought a schiit mani pre amp as the performance from the inbuilt pre amp is very ordinary and the difference in the sound is well worth it and all you need to do is turn off the inbuilt preamp and plug the Schiit mani in and there is also different levels of gain to select from there is a number of upgrades available my next one will be head shell and cartridge ant that will do me for now
An option that I explored that makes a decent improvement in sound is upgrading the stylus from the atn95e that comes with the turntable to the atn95ex, which will fit on the cartridge that comes with the turntable. A good option especially if your stylus is due for a replacement as the the atn95ex is only 10 dollars more than the atn95e
The only important thing is to know the difference between styluses! A conical may be ok, but as a Norwegian sound engineer I would recommend an elliptical or a Shibata!
Just got the lp 120 I was looking for upgrades earlier glad for this video
Back in the day while buying stereo equipment in Japan you never had to worry about modifying anything to get great sound. The Technics and Kenwood turntables I purchased in Misawa in 1981 still work and sound perfect. I did buy this Audio Technica lp120 from B&H to try out transferring hard to find remixes to CDs for the car. Let's see how it goes.
hello Jared i been repairing turn tables and record players for over 40 + years thank you for posting this .
also thank you for knowing your limitations I could go on with horror story's of some one not qualified.
Great presentation. Thanks
Great video!!!
Thanks detail explanation
just wanted to say thanks for making videos! I've been watching you for a while now in preparation for me buying a turntable! but my girlfriend found your channel and bought me the lp120 in black for Christmas!
+James Crawley nice! Congrats on your new LP-120! And thank you for watching! A lot of great new stuff on the way!
hey Jarrett, I wanted to get a record player for a long time and I found your channel while looking and I watched almost all your videos because you're a good speaker and they're cool but I decided to go with the Audio Technica at-lp60 because I can't afford the 120. but I just wanted to thank you for helping me find this one it came in the mail today and I love it
Thank you Benjamin
Did you use the Stevenson protractor when aligning the Ortofon Red, or do you recommend a different protractor? Thanks!
I don't know that if it's 'cause I got my at-lp120 later than Jarrett, but you don't have to remove the internal pre-amp to use an external one. there's a little black switch on the back that allows you to bypass the internal pre-amp.
Very Helpful! Thank You!! E
Great video! I love the channel! I have an LP120, as well. In my opinion, removing the preamp is the most noticeable thing you can do to improve the sound of the LP120. After I removed mine, I wondered why I waited so long. The installed preamp really does color the sound...even when it is switched off. The sound, with the internal preamp removed, opens up considerably and has better clarity. For me, it was like removing a curtain that muffled the sound. All the money spent on tweaks and better bits of equipment almost seem pointless in light of the internal preamp sitting inside coloring/muffling the sound. The difference in sound, to me, really was very noticeable. It's a shame that AT hampers the sound of their own unit by including the internal preamp in the signal path even when switched off.
Hi, do you still have this table six years later. Or have you upgraded.
thanks man got an lp120 in augest best purchase i ever made i loved this video aint messing with the pre amp lol but the cork map and heavier weight sounds useful i am happy for now with my setup but i keep this vid in mind
I bought the Numark cc-1 recently, and all I had to do was just plug it right in the tonearm, didn't need the head shell, and I am pleased with it. My turntable is the Technics SL-3200
Hey guys got mine for Christmas along with several records. Just want to ask you if you turn on the turntable and press start can you hear the motor spinning the plate? When I turned it on for the first time I couldn't hear a thing but now I can hear how the motor is working. I can even hear it throughout the speakers if its loud enough. Thanks for the answer coz right now I'm wondering if I should send it back to the store.
Those are great tips for the LP 120 I love my LP 120 X I haven’t quite listened to the records yet I started listening to the record without having the amplifier hooked up to it and I love the fact that the motor is very quiet it’s fantastic I am not going to undo the preamps are you spelt because I’d love to keep my turntable in great shape.
i have an lp120 and i love it
so i have the audio technica lp 120 turntable and there is this little switch under the platter and the mat that goes from 115 to 220, what does it do?
I have the tube box s! Its a great preamp. Sounds great with my debut carbon and my klipsch speakers. I highly recommend
What thickness of the cork mat would you suggest? I’ve seen 1.5 mm and 3 mm. Thanks. 🤔👍
Do I need to physically remove the built-in pre-amp in order to use an external upgraded one ? Wouldn't it be easier just switching from line to phono output and thereby by-pass that circuit ? Or it's not quite the same ?
Just go to your local Wal-mart and imagine all of the people with flying cars. Are you sure you still want flying cars?
+Daniel Jones haha maybe it's for the best.
Vinyl Eyezz they are dangerous enough in normal cars
Daniel Jones. Drones are on their way. (They say)
its not like flying cars don't exist. there have been several functional prototypes. 1 still too expensive, 2 we arent ready!
narzq. beside the point.
Loving that Disintegration on the wall! Fine taste!
+Jean Pierre Blanco Castiblanco thank you! Love that album!
Hi there, I have recently upgraded my Audio Technica cartridge and head shell to ortofon 2M red. After replaced, I have noticed a small hum/buzz comes from the speaker where my OG Audio Technica do not have this problem at all previously. When placing my fingers on the tone arm the hum will then stopped. May I know what is the problem here? I have tried to loosen the wiring and stuff but it just don’t work. Desperately need help!!
I needed the built in pre amp because I live in an apartment and don't have room for an old school 2 channel set up. I plug RCA into a single 3.5 and play it thru my Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin
i just got this turntable and it comes with a ground cable on the rca (red and white tipped) cable.... my denon receicer has nowhere to connect the ground, what do i do??
on my stanton t92, I can bypass the preamp with a switch, does completely removing the preamp still make it sound better?
Cool vid
I'm more than happy with the way mine sounds just out of the box. !
How slipmat make turntable sound better?
Love the videos, what are some good resources for a gettin into vinyl?
450$ on a pre-amp.... this is more expensive than the turntable(at lp-120) itself.
i also tired my ortofon vinyl master silver with it (i have some more spinners here;)....it´s about what you can do, not what´s rational ok ;)
Exactly what i was going to say!
He also doesn't tell you that you need a receiver only a turntable, pre amp, amplifier, and speakers
they say that the preamp that is in this turntable degrades the sound even when it is turned off
You do not have to buy a preamp for $ 450. you can even find one for $ 100 that sounds really great
I just got my Audio Technica lp-1230 and it's amazing! I was going to buy a crosley (ugh) but thanks to you I didn't!
btw I love your the cure record on the wall, I'm saving up for it because i grew up with them.
well thanks !
For all you guys wondering why you should remove the preamp it goes like this : the built in phono preamp adversley affects the sound quality EVEV WHEN IT IS BYPASSED WITH THE SWITCH. When you switch to phono direct the cartridge cables are still connected to part of the built in preamp. Research has shown that phono direct isn't pure, the residual connection to the preamp reduces the high signals on the lp. Even though it is "bypassed" with the switch. Got it?
I hear that AT fixed this issue on newer models.
I do not live to far from the AT headquarters in Ohio, do you think they take walk-ins? No way am I tech enough for this type of surgery removing the pre-amp. thanks in advance
Just got this for Christmas, and I'm in love with it!
i would only need to disable the internal preamp if i am going to use the LINE IN option, correct? i'm currently looking for a vintage receiver with phono inputs.
I've got the headshell in my basket for ordering but I'd like to understand why replacing it is needed and the changes it will make. I'm asking because I'm new to turntables and trying to learn as I go and understand the why between the upgrades.
Would you want to "rip out" the preamp if you can switch it off?
Good point Bro.👍
@@dennisrodash3763 Not even a point right there, if the preamp is off there are still circuit doing things.
Its not True bypass
There is a reason they are saying to rip out the preamp... as there is a supposed switch to "bypass" the preamp.. but that is not true... even if you go without the built-in preamp, for some reason, the preamp is still in the signal path and it's not a particularly good pre-amp and will obscure the pure sound you should be hearing from the turntable and vinyl on it
@@MedalionDS9 From what i have been reading, models made after 2017 and forward, have addressed the issue with the pre-amp and anti-skate. FWIW
An older version of the blog post suggested adding o-rings to the tonearm to add dampening and increase the effective mass.
+Vinyl Eyezz Is there a video that explains the difference between cork, leather and rubber vinyl mats? Love these videos!
Hey Jarret! What are you think about the amplifiers wich have a phono input? Is that good that you can skip the pre-amlifier or it's not recommended? (I have an Akai AP-100 Turntable [pretty old stuff from my grandmother] and a Sony TA-AX5 Amplifier)
Just got my AT LP 120xUSB that has a phono/line bypass switch. Do you still recommend an external (cheap 50 USD Power Dynamics ) preamp over the built in one?
Mine sounds good either way, aux or phono.
No mention of acrylic mats. I'm using one from Hudson Hi-Fi on my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon and the static pops have dramatically decreased! Personally, I'd change removing the pre-amp to using a record weight/clamp. The biggest upgrade you can do for your entire system is a power conditioner.
does anyone know if it's required to get the "Heavy weight counter" if I'm going to get the 2m red needle and headshell he listed or is the one that comes with the Lp 120 enough ?
Thanks for the great videos. I'm just about to buy a LP120 and use my current JVC AX-1 amp and bookshelf speakers until I can afford to upgrade. Do you have any advice on good quality second hand options for speakers or amps that are good for some one building there setup?
Cheers
Good job! I noticed Jobim's 'Wave" album in the backround. You have good musical taste as well.
For those opting to bypass the preamp, I highly recommend the Schitt Mani. It's about 140 and is consistently rated as the best phono preamp under 1K. It's also completely manufactured in the US.
Yeah but im wondering, why would you remove the preamp entirely as opposed to switching it off? wont it have the same effect?
Have you checked the AT LP 1240? Would like to know your impressions on that turntable.
I had a feeling he wasn't going to mention removing the preamp, but he did, so props for that.
hey great video. I am going overhaul my Lp-120 this weekend. just ordered the super charger today and the nitrous should be in tomorrow. lol. seriously though good video, I just ordered a new mat. thanks
don't forget the flames and red paint :D
Slap some stickers on there while you're at it. They'll improve the sound as much as the mat does.
HI....I have this LP 120 and I added a piece of wood for a spacer between cartridge and shell. Weighs about 1.89g. Do I have to add more weight to the tone arm since there is now a wood spacer?
Thanks
seems like a good device, need to try
Question. Please help. While using quartz sync - I here the sound speed is fine. But strobe dots are running wild. If I use pitch to make them stop, disabling quartz - the speed goes completly wrong... is it OK? Is pitch us only for DJs & I just can ignore it or something wrong with my device? Do you have you dots OK (standing), when quartz is enabled? many thanks for helping & sorry for off-topic!
what is better, the new LP120 or the old one that you have? The new one doesn't have adjustable tone arm height, and the LED light isn't spring loaded. It just seems like they cut corners, but maybe its better? I actually got this old version on accident in an open box sale mishap, but considering sending it back. But now that i look at the new model i kinda am thinking of keeping it. What would you do?
Can you do a video on cartridges and if/ why they make a difference in sound
Quick question, I have the same turntable, and thinking of buying the same amp as well. Do you use a pre-amp, or the one built-in to the LP-120? Thanks in advance!
Cool video, I chose to upgrade my stylus but decided to go for the Audio Technica VM95EN. It's a great upgrade as its a elliptical nude stylus & it's designed to fit the AT-LP120's original headshell, so fitting it was as simple as swapping out a worn out stylus. I've also added a Cambridge Audio AXA25 amplifier with a pair of passive speakers. This is a great upgrade from the set of powered speakers I was first using when I originally got my turntable.
Great Video's Jared. Im a total vinyl Record Geek. I spend way too much money on Records, its becoming an addiction. LOL! Keep up the great work!
Ahhhh the Disintegration album in the back thoo :D 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
What are your thoughts on using a basic lm386 circuit for a preamp?
correct me if im wrong but i feel like the record cleaning kit and the anti static brush does the same thing?
Is there any way to add auto-stop or something that makes the record stop when you're done?
If I change the counter weight then can I then connect Ortofon plug and play cart that doesn’t require a protractor for setting up cartridge ?.have trouble seeing protractor which has become hassle...no I’m not blind ,I just don’t get in with it...
One thing that nobody seems to have mentioned regarding removing the preamp...(btw, my pre-amp is still intact. I don't use it, but the turntable still sounds really good -- that's what your equalizer is for!)...
If you remove the pre-amp from the LP-120, that also takes away the USB connectivity, as the USB is actually part of the built-in pre-amp. So unless you have another way to route your sound to a computer if you want to make a digital recording of some of your vinyl, you might want to leave that pre-amp alone.
i have a 77 bose turntable hifi setup that i inherited from my grandparents is it would it be better worse or the same as a audio technica
Hey Vinyl Eyezz how ya doing love your videos. Could you do a one based on the arms on Turntables like what is the difference between using a Straight Arm to an S arm turntable
What stylus for DJing and schreching? thank you
he jarrett ,great new video love it!, have you ever heard of a record player that plays "like" a cd player,it is the technics sl-j3, its 30+ years old,i own a couple of turntables but this is by far my most go to player,just did some maintenance on it (new grease,new stylus etc) the pro-ject pre amp is on my wishlist btw
Hi Jarrett, if I buy only the 2m red cartridge can it be mounted on the existing headshell?
Thank you very much for your work on your channel. I was inspired by this video to upgrade my DJ turntable to an audiophile/HI-FI turntable for Father's Day. I bought the Art DJ PRE II - $39.00. The pre-amp that is inside of my Roland TT-99 has a gate that shuts off the audio when below a set threshold. Nice idea but acts weird. The DJpre allows me to push some saturation is quite pleasant sounding to me. I bought the cork slip mat $14.99 and was surprised the difference that made. Then I bought a refurbished 2M blue for $100.00 (SCORE!!) The deck sounds completely different now. I noticed something. I took the default entry-level cartridge off and put it on its own headshell for quick installation later and aligned it with the free downloadable protractor and it sounded way better after being set up. I wish I had aligned this cartridge before. It is still not as good as the 2M Blue but definitely better than it was before. It had a slight anechoic sound before. The TT-99 seems to be a rebranded LP-120 less some features such as stylus height adjustment but gains a switch for phono out or line level (pre-amped out)so I don't need to open it up to use an external preamp. Happy Father's Day to me.
What is that hole for in the top right of the deck?
It has a preamp bypass switch. I don't use the internal preamp on the turntable. I use the preamp on my receiver. wouldn't that accomplish the same thing as taking the preamp out of the turntable?
How can I make the stupid turntable stop at the end of the record?? Someone referred to an infrared sensor mod. Help!
I have said this for years, one of the best improvements to a turntable is the surface it is sitting on. Get a good heavy, HEAVY, table or console with a solid surface and lots of mass, and be sure that nothing else is touching it. Then of course hot-rod the device.