@@aaron9035 this is thermal only. If you want something that looks like a standard scope, but also has night vision capability check out my ATN 4K Pro or ATN LTV reviews
Odd, you liked the review, I found it 99% useless. he has 12 seconds of actually video of a couple rabbits and cows. The other 27 minutes Is crap I can READ off the box.
Thank you for the kind words, I am glad you found this video to be useful. Thermal is a big investment, and I wanted to make sure to be as thorough as possible.
That distance entry is the most important feature, You use that with the smart crosshair which is also a ffp crosshair. I think it is the bottom left crosshair in the rectical menu. Once you enter your bullet information into the profile section, the weight, type, velocity, coefficient etc you then select the smart rectical. If you are zeroed at 100 yards you enter your targets range say 60 yards into the scopes distance entry this will give you a teal green dot on your rectical. This dot is your point of aim. So that distance entry is very important indeed. Don't ignore it. Great vid by the way.
Dear sir. I am letting you know that really enjoy your videos. I will however have to say that the ATN thor 4 is not all it's cracked up to be. I purchased a 4.5 to 18 and have had nothing but trouble with it and ATN customer service is non existent. I own a pulsar core 30 and for 2 years it has never left me down. When I call Pulsar they help me with any questions and it is a human being not a computer. Thanks again for your videos and keep killing them hogs. TM Montana.
Great comment, Jennifer. And this scope is a pain in the azz to keep focusing. Saw 4 Coyotes out around 150 yards and by the time I focused in, they had moved, refocused, they moved again, refocused. Pain the ass
Awesome review. Detail is best I've seen. This is tyoe of info needed when making decisions on a thermal. Videos of nothing but shooting, is ok. But the essentials of using the thermal is what is important.
Fantastic video! I appreciate you showing video evidence of everything being discussed. This really cleared the air and gave me confidence in my decision for acquisition. Thank you!!!
Terrific!!! Totally Awesome!!! Thanks for a very thorough review. You answered so many questions to help me decide what scope will be mounted on my Ruger Precision 308 for hunting.
I’m actually saving some cash to get one of these bad boys I can’t wait to try it and the fact that u can zero it with one shot it’s insane I think ATN scopes are really awesome
Let us know how you like it once you get one. I need something for my .22 to eradicate moles in my back yard. It's 2 acres and they're ruining it! I wonder if I will see little "hotspots" as they tunnel along the surface?
What I find of more value or equal value is ,What company has the better Customer service and my husband has the ATN THOR4 and has had to send it back for repairs and has had the hardest time to get anyone to help him out with either a R/A number or any information as to how to send the scope in for repair ,after finally returning the scope you will not here anything as to what was wrong with the scope or otherwise .The scope will just show up . I love this scope and would love to purchase another (BUT) their Customer service is SUB par. I also have friends that own Pulsar scopes and also had to send them back and had NO ISSUES in contacting or service of any kind .Replaced Scope with out ISSUE. This a very Important step when Purchasing an Expensive Scope.
I ordered a Thor4 4.5-18 today. I know some people like the pulsar fan boys love to hate on ATN even though most have never used one. I know many hog hunters that use their products and have had zero issues. Can’t wait to get mine later this week.
@@4MRRanch Yes I did! All I could find about the thor 4's were nothing but kill cam videos from hog hunters, so I really like the clarity of the optic. This video was the only real in depth review I could find about the optic. Thanks for your honest input and I cant wait to get mine. Hopefully it will ship today.
@@4MRRanch Do you have problems with recorder videos being out of sync with the Audio? I upgraded to the latest firmware and it is still out of sync bad. th-cam.com/video/AW9NUCAkkH4/w-d-xo.html
@@thewatcher611 it's a great '80s action movie that's still relatable. They're out in the jungle and using weapons that are still issued worldwide. so other than maybe the lack of smartphones, (they're in a jungle with no service anyway), the story works today.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Weapons issued worldwide today, except that handheld GE M134 minigun with the huge backpack, or at least not the way they used it in the film. In the real world, the M134 minigun weighs 85 lbs, and fires at 2000-6000 rounds per minute using a powerful electric motor, so it's impossible for one man to carry the gun, plus ammo, plus a sufficient power supply. In Predator, Jesse Ventura carries the gun using a special harness. The backpack only has enough ammo in it for 4 seconds of continuous fire, and the power supply is actually a gas generator connected to the gun by a cable that you can actually see in a couple scenes if you look close. It's just too damn much gun for any one person to handle so they did a lot of tricks to make it look possible. Fun fact though, Arnold carries and uses the exact same minigun in Terminator 2, and by exact same, I mean they literally dug up the very same prop gun from Predator and put it in Terminator 2. That makes more sense to me, since Arnold has robot super strength.
@@andrewsinclair7159 yeah I heard all that before on some making of and/or propmaster kinda show, but thanks for recounting it all. I love both those films from my childhood... before Arnie got political, and cheated on his wife, etc... another fun factoid, that minugun is made by Dillon, which is Carl Weathers' character in the movie. A lot of sources will just call it "GE" because they designed it, and the bigger Vulcan it was based on but Dillon is also one of the licenced manufacturers. BTW if you haven't heard, you should check out IMFDB. They're like the IMDB of movie gun info.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Now that bit about Dillon I didn't know, but it makes sense with military contracting the way it is. And IMFDB is great. I'm one of those people that compulsively tries to ID guns I see in movies, so I love being able to confirm if I'm right or not.
I have seen ATN thermal scopes in the lower resolution at 1200.00 1400.00 every other manufacturer of thermal scopes start at 3000.00 I can see spending the lower amount for the limited use I would put it through but if I was out eradicating hogs on a regular basis the high priced models would be worth the cost it's nice to at least have a company with a product that is at a more affordable price point for occasionally night hunting coyotes.
@@4MRRanch just finished watching your video, I loved it! I purchased a new thor4 384 1.25x5. It was sited in at 50 yards by a trusted friend. He told me that regarding this sight in that in order to keep the zero I needed to remember the zero correction numbers (x -9 y + 60 ) so as to get back to zero. All else being the same. Can you speak to that for me. I don't intend at this time to use the ballistics calculator. Thanks in advance. Greg
@@4MRRanch ANYTIME, THANKS FOR IN DETAIL EXPLANATION, I HAVE BEEN EYEBALLING THE $1000.00 3×6 VERSION, SINCE I JUST WANT TO USE IT FOR RATS AND DON'T WANT TO TIE UP TOO MUCH CASH FOR ONE IN A WHILE PLINKING. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT MODEL VERSUS THIS ONE.
Sam G. I don’t have experience with that model first hand, but I’m assuming you’ll be reasonably close to the rats your after, so I would assume it’ll get the job done just fine!
@@4MRRanch THANKS BUDDY, YOU HAVE A NEW SUBSCRIBER, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SPECS OF BOTH FOR COMPARISON, BUT I AM ASSUMING IT WILL BE CLOSE WITH SOME KEY FEATURES NOT AVAILABLE TO THE CHEAPER MODEL.👍
Sam G. That is correct. If you are referring to the ThOR LT, it will not have as many bells and whistles such as the ability to record your hunting footage.
Ok. Is it just me, or is everyone else pretty sure whom ever was coming up with the different color schemes for the thermal was a wee bit high? LoL! As for the port covers popping off, yeah that was my concern when I first started looking at it. Two thoughts come to mind while waiting for them to come up with a solution. One simple but a Scout Fix. Other a little more work. For the first one, spread a think coat of lubricant that won't dissolve the rubber on each cap, then cover the entire side with a piece of duct-tape. For the other, rig some connector to the scope-mounts and stretch a piece of rubber across the entire side. Get even more creative and do it to both sides and you'll have extra impact protection. ;-)
Great vid but for zeroing all you need is an a4 shoot n see black sheet, for your shot at the paper and then zero your crosshair to the point of impact, Make your own shoot n see using high vis paper, a laminator, and some black line marker paint.
Thanks for the video! I appreciate the through video. One of the best reviews of this optic. Improvise, Just put a piece of tape across the rubber plugs.
Cool channel. At 15:00 how are you recording what the scope sees? If I try that with any camera it flicks at a refresh rate my eyes can't see but its not worth recording.
The best way to maximize battery longevity is to keep the charge between 20-85%. Never deplete it to 0, and never charge all the way to 100%, especially if you are charging from 0%.
Two things. Does this site have natural site? Meaning can you set it up to look like any other scope or is just thermal? This is the very best product review I have watched and I have watched numerous other reviews. Well done young man and thank you.
Mark Smith you’re looking for the 4K pro model if that’s what you’re after, it’s a night vision scope that also has “normal” daytime view. I have a video of this on my channel as well in a similar fashion as this video. To my knowledge there are not thermal scopes that let you have the option to toggle thermal on and off. You can also look into clip on thermal as an option. ATN is releasing something like this as well, and I plan to review that too!
Although the ballistic drop calculator is very cool I don’t see it of being much use if the digital picture starts to get grainy at 100 yards like you showed in the video. Also how does this work in the day time? Can it pick up animals in the woods in broad day say 60 degrees out ?
Yes, he literally showed it easily distinguishing cows from the background terrain in 90 degree heat. He explicitly says this while playing that recorded video. Did you even watch the video or pay attention to it?
I have a bunch of expensive hobbies (too many) and I'm looking for the best bang for the buck thermal scope to mount on my AR. I just started my research with this video, thanks!
In my opinion it’s hard to beat this one if you want a dedicated thermal optic. Check out my Accufire Incendis review (clip on thermal), which is another very versatile unit
Do you have a video showing how the ABL 1000/1500 works with the ThOR 4? I'm interested in a solution to the topic where the ABL's reticle does not align to the same spot "on target" with the ThOR 4's reticle. For example, when viewing a target in the viewfinder, it's awkward to have to adjust/move your gun due to the "Position" of the two reticles. In short, the ABL's reticle appears in a different location in the viewfinder as does the ThOR'4 reticle when pressing the Function Key to Range a Target. Assumptions: The ThOR 4's Firmware is up-to-date, the Ballistics data is entered, the scope has been Zeroed via the "One Shot Zero", the devices are Paired, and the Zero ABL step has been performed.
Enjoy your videos New to thermal I have the Thor 4 384x288 so if I zero at 50 yards and ballistic calculator on scope makes adjustments beyond 50 yards and if ballistic calculator off is it only good for 50 yards.Thanks in advance
How many people here have purchased a ATN Thor? I’m interested in hearing more from people who have actually bought from ATN and already has real time use with it.
I’ve had this exact same scope for a couple years. I had some problems with the keypad freezing up when I first got it but I updated the firmware and that seems to have corrected that problem. I also got the cantilever scope ring and the ABL laser range finder for free when I ordered it. I’ve never used the ABL because I have it mounted on a 5.56 AR and all my shots are under 100 yards.
so it's has a internal battery. Sorta like my cellphone. Now after 6 yrs my cellphone needs replacing because the battery life sucks. Would that means the thermal scope has to be replaced over due time? Kinda sucks paying $1,500 to $3600 on a scope that you can't change the battery.
Generally phone batteries degrade faster due to improper charging habits, but you can usually replace parts on anything, these aren't concrete answers but I don't know why you couldn't.
Love your video. Because of you doing this it makes my mind up and I want this one. I have looked at it for months now. One last question.....I have 338 Lapua Savage and will this scope work well for over 1000 yards?
@@codyrobison6817 what yard range would you say best represents the image provided by the scope @ 2-8 zoom, in your own personal experience? I already have one coming. I’m still gathering old and new info, till it shows up.
@@sirkingtero2484 at 8x zoom your going to have a very distorted image that basically looks like a blob if your using it for predators not being able to identify what your shooting as is a big problem
@@codyrobison6817 Thanks for the feedback. I will mostly be using it under the 8x zoom just because there is more forest than open fields where I’m located. I’m assuming you’ve got a lot more know-how when it comes to this subject. What would you recommend in a future buy for hunting; in which zoom detail, matters more?
I have just bought this scope (4-40 magnification with best available resolution). It works up to 100m, Good luck, to see what You are shooting on beyound this distance. The display is placed in a tunel behind the ocular, so the feeling is like "watching a 4K 55" TV on the wall 10 meters away from You. Probably the purpose was to hide the pixels when You zoom up the magnification if You want to see whenever Yous intend to shoot on a male or female pig. It is nice too watch the pictures and films on a big screen of Your computer, bot not thru the scope since the display there is about 1x1,5 cm in size. Investing in a rangefinder to this scope in terms to shoot at distances above 100 meters seems like a worse investment ever. Unless You connect it to the iPad when You shoot. Have in mind, that the picture of the pig on the package or instruction is taken om 4 to 6 meters distance... The scope is intended to shoot best on a distance up to 50m. All that for only 8000 EUR. Rediculous... It is good to have in mind, that at those distances You are stil able to see at moonlight thru a good day scope with premium light transmition like Zeiss 1,1-8 V8. Please take a look how the zeroing of the scope works, You should draw Your own conclussions of how mych of the sensor resolution is available to You in reality... Would I buy it again? No, I would wait and buy an military, refurbished scope or clip on.
You can adjust the rear diopter to make the screen inside more visible to you. But this phenomenon of the screen within the scope is pretty standard for electronic thermal scopes across the board, or at least it has been for the 5 different thermal scopes I have used to date
Could you summarize the differences between the Thor 4 and the Thor LT? Is there a big difference in image quality? Or are the differences mostly extra features in the THOR 4??
Great review. Best iv seen. Not super impressed with the clarity at 100yds. I've been looking at purchasing a thermal scope. Sometimes they seem a little complicated for an older guy who's not great with technology.
What kind of batteries does it use? How long do they last? what sort of shelf life? I assume there's not "regular" or Day sight mode so if the batteries run out its a brick then, right? It sounds really neat but I'm wary of anything claiming to be "smart", I mean, after you set it up why would it need updates? seems odd to me...
Thanks for watching everyone! Check the description to skip around to the parts you want to see!
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You have some spaghetti on your shirt bitch.
hey man, quick question, does this only go thermal specifically, or can you change it to a normal clear scope view?
@@aaron9035 this is thermal only. If you want something that looks like a standard scope, but also has night vision capability check out my ATN 4K Pro or ATN LTV reviews
@@4MRRanch alright, thanks man, appreciate the info
Great review, most people could take lessons from you on how to do a review the proper way, No BS , straight to the point ,and informative!!
Paul Akers Jr thanks for watching! More reviews to come!
right, had to really click around before this one
@@4MRRanch give update
Odd, you liked the review, I found it 99% useless. he has 12 seconds of actually video of a couple rabbits and cows. The other 27 minutes Is crap I can READ off the box.
The BEST optic review I've ever seen. Incredibly comprehensive and clearly explained despite being a very technical piece of kit. THANK YOU!
Thank you for the kind words, I am glad you found this video to be useful. Thermal is a big investment, and I wanted to make sure to be as thorough as possible.
That distance entry is the most important feature,
You use that with the smart crosshair which is also a ffp crosshair.
I think it is the bottom left crosshair in the rectical menu.
Once you enter your bullet information into the profile section, the weight, type, velocity, coefficient etc you then select the smart rectical.
If you are zeroed at 100 yards you enter your targets range say 60 yards into the scopes distance entry this will give you a teal green dot on your rectical.
This dot is your point of aim.
So that distance entry is very important indeed.
Don't ignore it.
Great vid by the way.
Best review of the ATN Thor. Just got mine Christmas 2019. This is my 4th ATN product.
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what is its max effective detection range?
@@В-Доску So if the first 3 broke, why did you buy a 4th?
After watching your Thermion vs. Thor 4 video, I think I’ve decided to go with the ATN. I appreciate this in depth review on the Thor 4. Thanks!
How is it?
Dear sir. I am letting you know that really enjoy your videos. I will however have to say that the ATN thor 4 is not all it's cracked up to be. I purchased a 4.5 to 18 and have had nothing but trouble with it and ATN customer service is non existent. I own a pulsar core 30 and for 2 years it has never left me down. When I call Pulsar they help me with any questions and it is a human being not a computer. Thanks again for your videos and keep killing them hogs. TM Montana.
Great comment, Jennifer. And this scope is a pain in the azz to keep focusing. Saw 4 Coyotes out around 150 yards and by the time I focused in, they had moved, refocused, they moved again, refocused. Pain the ass
Awesome review. Detail is best I've seen. This is tyoe of info needed when making decisions on a thermal. Videos of nothing but shooting, is ok. But the essentials of using the thermal is what is important.
Abel Juarez thank you for taking the time to watch, and your positive feedback. I hope to have many more useful reviews to come.
Fantastic video! I appreciate you showing video evidence of everything being discussed. This really cleared the air and gave me confidence in my decision for acquisition. Thank you!!!
Wow been away from this market for a few years and what an improvement
For hunting it seems all anybody would need
Superb video instruction, presentation, and communication skills. Thank you! ATN should offer you a position.
Donald Merical thanks for the positive feedback and for taking the time to watch this video. I hope it was helpful.
i learn and enjoy every time i watch your videos... thank you sir!
Really appreciate your honesty. Thank you.
Steve Marino thanks for taking the time to watch this video.
Terrific!!! Totally Awesome!!! Thanks for a very thorough review. You answered so many questions to help me decide what scope will be mounted on my Ruger Precision 308 for hunting.
Thanks for the kind words, and for taking the time to watch. I hope you enjoy your new toy once you pull the trigger on it.
I’m actually saving some cash to get one of these bad boys I can’t wait to try it and the fact that u can zero it with one shot it’s insane I think ATN scopes are really awesome
Let us know how you like it once you get one. I need something for my .22 to eradicate moles in my back yard. It's 2 acres and they're ruining it! I wonder if I will see little "hotspots" as they tunnel along the surface?
This is in depth and awesome thanks I appreciate all the effort and testing
Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Great video! Perfect rundown on the product.
What I find of more value or equal value is ,What company has the better Customer service and my husband has the ATN THOR4 and has had to send it back for repairs and has had the hardest time to get anyone to help him out with either a R/A number or any information as to how to send the scope in for repair ,after finally returning the scope you will not here anything as to what was wrong with the scope or otherwise .The scope will just show up . I love this scope and would love to purchase another (BUT) their Customer service is SUB par. I also have friends that own Pulsar scopes and also had to send them back and had NO ISSUES in contacting or service of any kind .Replaced Scope with out ISSUE. This a very Important step when Purchasing an Expensive Scope.
Im in love with that scope!
Now that’s how you do an in depth review. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
If you are still running this optic, could you do a quick update on it? Thoughts on its long term usefulness, etc? Thanks
Nope haha
th-cam.com/video/WdK8EcTDrsY/w-d-xo.html there ya go.
@@MRmagnatron thank you
I ordered a Thor4 4.5-18 today. I know some people like the pulsar fan boys love to hate on ATN even though most have never used one. I know many hog hunters that use their products and have had zero issues. Can’t wait to get mine later this week.
Jeremy Laroche by did you order it after watching this video? Enjoy your new toy!
@@4MRRanch Yes I did! All I could find about the thor 4's were nothing but kill cam videos from hog hunters, so I really like the clarity of the optic. This video was the only real in depth review I could find about the optic. Thanks for your honest input and I cant wait to get mine. Hopefully it will ship today.
Jeremy Laroche happy to help! I was surprised nobody else had a review of this optic yet.
@@4MRRanch I've been waiting 6 months for someone to say something about it. Thanks for your thoughts.
@@4MRRanch Do you have problems with recorder videos being out of sync with the Audio? I upgraded to the latest firmware and it is still out of sync bad. th-cam.com/video/AW9NUCAkkH4/w-d-xo.html
I’m getting this thank you for the great reviews
Great review!
It's like The Predator when he cycles the options
wow you're old haha. but i knew what you meant. so, i guess i am too.
@@thewatcher611 it's a great '80s action movie that's still relatable. They're out in the jungle and using weapons that are still issued worldwide. so other than maybe the lack of smartphones, (they're in a jungle with no service anyway), the story works today.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Weapons issued worldwide today, except that handheld GE M134 minigun with the huge backpack, or at least not the way they used it in the film. In the real world, the M134 minigun weighs 85 lbs, and fires at 2000-6000 rounds per minute using a powerful electric motor, so it's impossible for one man to carry the gun, plus ammo, plus a sufficient power supply. In Predator, Jesse Ventura carries the gun using a special harness. The backpack only has enough ammo in it for 4 seconds of continuous fire, and the power supply is actually a gas generator connected to the gun by a cable that you can actually see in a couple scenes if you look close. It's just too damn much gun for any one person to handle so they did a lot of tricks to make it look possible.
Fun fact though, Arnold carries and uses the exact same minigun in Terminator 2, and by exact same, I mean they literally dug up the very same prop gun from Predator and put it in Terminator 2. That makes more sense to me, since Arnold has robot super strength.
@@andrewsinclair7159 yeah I heard all that before on some making of and/or propmaster kinda show, but thanks for recounting it all. I love both those films from my childhood... before Arnie got political, and cheated on his wife, etc... another fun factoid, that minugun is made by Dillon, which is Carl Weathers' character in the movie. A lot of sources will just call it "GE" because they designed it, and the bigger Vulcan it was based on but Dillon is also one of the licenced manufacturers.
BTW if you haven't heard, you should check out IMFDB. They're like the IMDB of movie gun info.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Now that bit about Dillon I didn't know, but it makes sense with military contracting the way it is.
And IMFDB is great. I'm one of those people that compulsively tries to ID guns I see in movies, so I love being able to confirm if I'm right or not.
I have seen ATN thermal scopes in the lower resolution at 1200.00 1400.00 every other manufacturer of thermal scopes start at 3000.00 I can see spending the lower amount for the limited use I would put it through but if I was out eradicating hogs on a regular basis the high priced models would be worth the cost it's nice to at least have a company with a product that is at a more affordable price point for occasionally night hunting coyotes.
Very in depth review, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
@@4MRRanch just finished watching your video, I loved it! I purchased a new thor4 384 1.25x5. It was sited in at 50 yards by a trusted friend. He told me that regarding this sight in that in order to keep the zero I needed to remember the zero correction numbers (x -9 y + 60 ) so as to get back to zero. All else being the same. Can you speak to that for me. I don't intend at this time to use the ballistics calculator. Thanks in advance. Greg
I’m glad I’m not the only one that has had a cows jumping out at me from foliage experience.
BEST DETAIL THERMAL BREAKDOWN ON TH-cam SO FAR
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Sam G. Really appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching!
@@4MRRanch ANYTIME, THANKS FOR IN DETAIL EXPLANATION, I HAVE BEEN EYEBALLING THE $1000.00 3×6 VERSION, SINCE I JUST WANT TO USE IT FOR RATS AND DON'T WANT TO TIE UP TOO MUCH CASH FOR ONE IN A WHILE PLINKING. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT MODEL VERSUS THIS ONE.
Sam G. I don’t have experience with that model first hand, but I’m assuming you’ll be reasonably close to the rats your after, so I would assume it’ll get the job done just fine!
@@4MRRanch THANKS BUDDY, YOU HAVE A NEW SUBSCRIBER, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SPECS OF BOTH FOR COMPARISON, BUT I AM ASSUMING IT WILL BE CLOSE WITH SOME KEY FEATURES NOT AVAILABLE TO THE CHEAPER MODEL.👍
Sam G. That is correct. If you are referring to the ThOR LT, it will not have as many bells and whistles such as the ability to record your hunting footage.
Do you still use this scope or have you moved on?
Great vid/tutorial. Thanks
Highly informative and perfectly succint. Thank you!
Great review man!!!
I'm still waiting on my sample to get here! Looks nice!
What do you mean by "sample"? Are you getting a test one before buying?
Cool video man . Good job explaining.
Very thorough review
Excellent Video and review. Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful.
Fantastic review. Very clear and concise. Well organized and articulate. Thank you very much.
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you benefitted from it.
Ok. Is it just me, or is everyone else pretty sure whom ever was coming up with the different color schemes for the thermal was a wee bit high? LoL!
As for the port covers popping off, yeah that was my concern when I first started looking at it. Two thoughts come to mind while waiting for them to come up with a solution. One simple but a Scout Fix. Other a little more work.
For the first one, spread a think coat of lubricant that won't dissolve the rubber on each cap, then cover the entire side with a piece of duct-tape.
For the other, rig some connector to the scope-mounts and stretch a piece of rubber across the entire side. Get even more creative and do it to both sides and you'll have extra impact protection. ;-)
Great review! Great job!!!
Thanks for taking the time to watch, I am glad you enjoyed this video. More to come!
“Battery replacement for a really low cost. “ Then says ATN hasn’t figured out the logistics and cost yet. Any updates on this?
That was a question I had for ATN when this optic was released, and that was the only info I was given
@@4MRRanch ok thanks!
Excellent review AA++++
Great vid but for zeroing all you need is an a4 shoot n see black sheet, for your shot at the paper and then zero your crosshair to the point of impact,
Make your own shoot n see using high vis paper, a laminator, and some black line marker paint.
Dude that is pretty awesome what doesn’t it do. Great video.
Well I believe it will do your laundry with future firmware updates.. Thanks for watching!
For $3000, it ought to come with coupons for monthly free BJs.
great review
Very nice presentation! Thanks!
For the price of those scope they should NOT pixilate to that extreme when zooming in.
Thanks for the video! I appreciate the through video. One of the best reviews of this optic.
Improvise, Just put a piece of tape across the rubber plugs.
Thanks for watching. And agreed on improvising, but for the price of the optic I have to be nit picky in reviewing it.
very good would’ve liked a little more information on SD card programming i’m a novice
Cool channel. At 15:00 how are you recording what the scope sees? If I try that with any camera it flicks at a refresh rate my eyes can't see but its not worth recording.
Nice informative video. Thanks!
thermal scope is useless when your enemy uses cold blooded perk
lol No its not... Example: If you set it to White hot, just look for things in black that are moving.
@@johnnyturbo8460 shhhh that’s the secret that gets you called a hacker
@@johnnyturbo8460 thats not how it works lol
@@DasKloputzer wellll.... lol
@@johnnyturbo8460 yeah
very thorough, nice vid.
Thanks for taking the time to watch. I am glad you found it of use.
Great video! New sub earned.
Thanks for watching, and for your subscription!
I love the wood wall you have
The best way to maximize battery longevity is to keep the charge between 20-85%. Never deplete it to 0, and never charge all the way to 100%, especially if you are charging from 0%.
Excellent review. 🇱🇷🙏💥
Two things. Does this site have natural site? Meaning can you set it up to look like any other scope or is just thermal? This is the very best product review I have watched and I have watched numerous other reviews. Well done young man and thank you.
Mark Smith you’re looking for the 4K pro model if that’s what you’re after, it’s a night vision scope that also has “normal” daytime view. I have a video of this on my channel as well in a similar fashion as this video. To my knowledge there are not thermal scopes that let you have the option to toggle thermal on and off. You can also look into clip on thermal as an option. ATN is releasing something like this as well, and I plan to review that too!
Although the ballistic drop calculator is very cool I don’t see it of being much use if the digital picture starts to get grainy at 100 yards like you showed in the video. Also how does this work in the day time? Can it pick up animals in the woods in broad day say 60 degrees out ?
Yes, he literally showed it easily distinguishing cows from the background terrain in 90 degree heat. He explicitly says this while playing that recorded video. Did you even watch the video or pay attention to it?
excellent review.
I have a bunch of expensive hobbies (too many) and I'm looking for the best bang for the buck thermal scope to mount on my AR. I just started my research with this video, thanks!
In my opinion it’s hard to beat this one if you want a dedicated thermal optic. Check out my Accufire Incendis review (clip on thermal), which is another very versatile unit
great video!!
Great video thank you!
Do you have a video showing how the ABL 1000/1500 works with the ThOR 4?
I'm interested in a solution to the topic where the ABL's reticle does not align to the same spot "on target" with the ThOR 4's reticle.
For example, when viewing a target in the viewfinder, it's awkward to have to adjust/move your gun due to the "Position" of the two reticles.
In short, the ABL's reticle appears in a different location in the viewfinder as does the ThOR'4 reticle when pressing the Function Key to Range a Target.
Assumptions:
The ThOR 4's Firmware is up-to-date, the Ballistics data is entered, the scope has been Zeroed via the "One Shot Zero", the devices are Paired, and the Zero ABL step has been performed.
Thanks for the video
Awesome Video 📸 thanx 👍😊
Thanks for watching!
Great video
Enjoy your videos New to thermal I have the Thor 4 384x288 so if I zero at 50 yards and ballistic calculator on scope makes adjustments beyond 50 yards and if ballistic calculator off is it only good for 50 yards.Thanks in advance
One of these just closed at $890 on ebay, and kicking myself for not bidding. This would be perfect on my 300wm!
How many people here have purchased a ATN Thor? I’m interested in hearing more from people who have actually bought from ATN and already has real time use with it.
I’ve had this exact same scope for a couple years. I had some problems with the keypad freezing up when I first got it but I updated the firmware and that seems to have corrected that problem. I also got the cantilever scope ring and the ABL laser range finder for free when I ordered it. I’ve never used the ABL because I have it mounted on a 5.56 AR and all my shots are under 100 yards.
Mounting rings? Those actually don't come with it says on the box, purchasing mine currently
Thank you great info
Thanks for watching!
Aluminum foil works well for targets.
I bought one because of this video $4,855.00 dollars, but happy so far!
Enjoy it!
Great review I was wondering if you knew what kind of battery or batteries was inside of it
No I don’t but it’s a decent size cell to provide ~18 hours. My other thermal using 4 CR123 batteries only lasts around 3 hours.
@@4MRRanch Thank you
Thanks for the video. Are you still liking the scope?
so it's has a internal battery. Sorta like my cellphone. Now after 6 yrs my cellphone needs replacing because the battery life sucks. Would that means the thermal scope has to be replaced over due time? Kinda sucks paying $1,500 to $3600 on a scope that you can't change the battery.
Generally phone batteries degrade faster due to improper charging habits, but you can usually replace parts on anything, these aren't concrete answers but I don't know why you couldn't.
Love your video. Because of you doing this it makes my mind up and I want this one. I have looked at it for months now. One last question.....I have 338 Lapua Savage and will this scope work well for over 1000 yards?
Should but you can only ID target at 260 yard and Id who at is at half that. The exact specs are at ATN.
Absolutely will not work for 1000 yards my buddy has one there not that great
@@codyrobison6817 what yard range would you say best represents the image provided by the scope @ 2-8 zoom, in your own personal experience? I already have one coming. I’m still gathering old and new info, till it shows up.
@@sirkingtero2484 at 8x zoom your going to have a very distorted image that basically looks like a blob if your using it for predators not being able to identify what your shooting as is a big problem
@@codyrobison6817 Thanks for the feedback. I will mostly be using it under the 8x zoom just because there is more forest than open fields where I’m located. I’m assuming you’ve got a lot more know-how when it comes to this subject. What would you recommend in a future buy for hunting; in which zoom detail, matters more?
I have just bought this scope (4-40 magnification with best available resolution). It works up to 100m, Good luck, to see what You are shooting on beyound this distance. The display is placed in a tunel behind the ocular, so the feeling is like "watching a 4K 55" TV on the wall 10 meters away from You. Probably the purpose was to hide the pixels when You zoom up the magnification if You want to see whenever Yous intend to shoot on a male or female pig. It is nice too watch the pictures and films on a big screen of Your computer, bot not thru the scope since the display there is about 1x1,5 cm in size. Investing in a rangefinder to this scope in terms to shoot at distances above 100 meters seems like a worse investment ever. Unless You connect it to the iPad when You shoot. Have in mind, that the picture of the pig on the package or instruction is taken om 4 to 6 meters distance... The scope is intended to shoot best on a distance up to 50m. All that for only 8000 EUR. Rediculous... It is good to have in mind, that at those distances You are stil able to see at moonlight thru a good day scope with premium light transmition like Zeiss 1,1-8 V8. Please take a look how the zeroing of the scope works, You should draw Your own conclussions of how mych of the sensor resolution is available to You in reality...
Would I buy it again? No, I would wait and buy an military, refurbished scope or clip on.
You can adjust the rear diopter to make the screen inside more visible to you. But this phenomenon of the screen within the scope is pretty standard for electronic thermal scopes across the board, or at least it has been for the 5 different thermal scopes I have used to date
You can save multiple zero's? I'm sold.
Question for you.. ATN Thor 4--- any issues with it freezing up? Can you detect hogs easy at like 300 yds?
you can definitely detect hogs at 300 yards.
he specifically said he was picking up cows at 1,000
Can I use the atn thor 4 smart hd rifle scope on a legal limit 12ftlb air rifle
No but a real gun
OK, I'm old school; when I was young I was told not to work thermal in daylight. Does it hurt this scope using it in daylight hours?
Anyone know what scope ring that will hold this Thor4 on a Sig Cross? I don’t want the ATN Mount. Any other better quality options?
Foil works great too and doesnt bleed onto the substrate
Nice car lol
Could you summarize the differences between the Thor 4 and the Thor LT? Is there a big difference in image quality? Or are the differences mostly extra features in the THOR 4??
Hold Fast the ThOR LT is essentially the same optic minus features such as recording and streaming to your mobile devices.
Great review. Best iv seen. Not super impressed with the clarity at 100yds. I've been looking at purchasing a thermal scope. Sometimes they seem a little complicated for an older guy who's not great with technology.
Is there a lag lime between actual and image when recording a mind WiFi connected? Thought I saw that on one at Cabellas.
maybe half a second or so, I would assume this may be somewhat impacted by your distance to the optic/signal strength to the optic
@@4MRRanch can it’s WiFi be shit off so tbe em signal isnt detectable on a scanner ?
@@4MRRanch in the viewfinder is it delayed by the draw on the processor while connected to tbe wireless?
Can you tell me the price ?
I paid 1700
@@WillBuryU thats a great price bro!!!!!
is there a thermal out there that is just a thermal scope? (no data card, wifi blutooth..etc.) I just want a bare bones thermal. any ideas?
What kind of batteries does it use? How long do they last? what sort of shelf life? I assume there's not "regular" or Day sight mode so if the batteries run out its a brick then, right? It sounds really neat but I'm wary of anything claiming to be "smart", I mean, after you set it up why would it need updates? seems odd to me...
Internal. So far no noticeable loss of battery life and going impressively strong!
On your first zero shot what if it is far off and you dont hit the target? Can you get it close some how before first shot.
@@johnhoffmann9198 I’d start at around 15 yards, to get you reasonable close when doing it again at 100 yards
Fusion is my favorite color pallet.
Could you explain more about the sensor size numbers?
It is the resolution of the image, as a very simplified answer.
Price pk
Sounds like a good product at a decent price. Don't have to take out a 2nd mortgage on my house for a thermal.
When sighting in should you be zoomed all the way in, or all the way out? Will that change anything with zeroing?
It will not change your zero, I zoom into whatever magnification that gives me the best picture of the target.
Not going to trust their attention to detail in the scope when they can't even ensure everything is spelled correctly on the box.
I can see in the darkness without any devices, I'm a Witcher
Genial! ☺
Will that ballistic calc. work on a crossbow?