When A GT Car Won The Daytona 24 Hours

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  • @TheExitKerb
    @TheExitKerb ปีที่แล้ว +1694

    Most normal race in Florida

    • @34Racingteam
      @34Racingteam ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It ain't on dirt lol

    • @W123KartSport
      @W123KartSport ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Love the username. What happens in Sebring stays in Sebring.

    • @PetrolHeadMotorsport
      @PetrolHeadMotorsport ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This and the track being flooded during another 24h

    • @TheExitKerb
      @TheExitKerb ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@W123KartSport if your talking to me thank you

    • @toxy3580
      @toxy3580 ปีที่แล้ว

      Florida race

  • @GamersHolyArmy
    @GamersHolyArmy ปีที่แล้ว +1395

    For people interested, the 2015 Petit Le Mans also had a GT car win overall, but that was due to weird rain stuff.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      It was actually because the driving aids of GTE cars are wayyyy better than anything in LMP2 and LMP2-related classes like DPi

    • @slwsnowman4038
      @slwsnowman4038 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Falken also had the best mixed condition and wet tires.

    • @MrJohansen
      @MrJohansen ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@DiegoRuiz1991 dpi definitely wasn't "lmp2 related", they were more like non-hybrid lmp1s. Much faster than p2.
      (Also fyi, dpi didn't even exist in 2015, but that's aside from the point)

    • @StuffAndMore
      @StuffAndMore ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@MrJohansen Dpi are based of lmp2 chassis and where way slower then lmp1-L which was lmp1 without hybrids

    • @hannesgroesslinger
      @hannesgroesslinger ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@MrJohansen DPi were by definition "LMP2 related". They literally were LMP2 chassis with different engines and minor modification of bodywork. The rules in DPi did not allow to build a car from scratch, you had to take an LMP2 car and modify it. It can't get much more LMP2 related than that.
      Also at first they were not faster than LMP2, they were BoP'ed to race against them in a combined class. In 2018 Core Autosport won several races and almost the championship in an LMP2 against DPi. This made the DPi manufacturers rather unhappy and they threatened to leave unless IMSA would split the class. So for 2019 onwards LMP2 in IMSA were massively slowed down, while DPi were allowed slightly more engine power.
      In terms of speed they were still far away from LMP1, much closer to the unrestricted LMP2 that ran in WEC until 2020.
      But to come back to the 2015 Petit Le Mans: DPi did not exist yet. The top class back then was a mix of the old DP cars and LMP2. They, as well as LMPC, had to use a spec tyre from Continental. The third class GTLM allowed an open tyre competition. Under heavy rain these GTLM tyres from Michelin and Falken had much more grip than the spec Contis which suffered from aquaplaning, so the GT cars were able to outperform the prototypes.

  • @alex199273
    @alex199273 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    This whole race is like what would happen in a online endurance race. The longer you stay the more people quit, even if you're average and stay on track, you end up doing good towards the finish.
    EDIT: Removed forza because it sparked another convo from my comparison to this race.

    • @VeraTheTabbynx
      @VeraTheTabbynx ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I've seen a fair bit of attrition in Forza endurance, yeah lol. Once as luck would have it got my team into 3rd place overall in a Watkins Glen 8 hour IMSA race in our Jaguar XJR-9 despite a bad crash early on and me obliterating the gearbox as my clutch button broke. Never seen a GT take an overall victory though!

    • @coinmagnetjr
      @coinmagnetjr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Forza is a terrible comparison to simulation racing, Project Cars 2 is where it's at for Sim racing on consoles. Some prefer Asetto corsa but not me

    • @VeraTheTabbynx
      @VeraTheTabbynx ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@coinmagnetjr Why even comment this? This has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed. We could have been talking about Mario kart and little would change. Further, I'm sick of the "iT's NoT a SiM" argument, because it just is. Yeah, it doesn't simulate fuel weight and the FFB needs work, but that's how pretty much every one worked up until more recently than you'd think.
      Sidenotes: rip PC2 you were great. Assetto Corsa's console port is laughable.

    • @Ozark221
      @Ozark221 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I can be the iRacing snob in this argument, but actually in our early days it's this exactly. If you don't spin or crash in a 12 minute rookie race, you are basically guaranteed a win. You realize eventually that being 0.5 second a lap quicker is immediately negated by a single 5 second off-track excursion. (CONSISTENCY IS KEY) People who can do hours at a time in endurance are beyond the scope of my imagination. Hats off.

    • @VeraTheTabbynx
      @VeraTheTabbynx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ozark221 Yeah! Endurance is exhausting but really rewarding! Longest I've done alone is 6 straight hours at Road Atlanta, but I know a couple nutcases who have done full 24 hour races (albeit they did so in singleplayer, no league allows doing that)

  • @Cmoredebris
    @Cmoredebris ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Long before 2003, a GT Group 4 Porsche RSR driven by Graves-Helmik-Haywood won the 1977 Daytona 24 against much faster Group 5 cars, driven by Ickx-Mass, Jost-Wollek, Rondeau-Beltoise, among others. This occurred because of mechanical issues by all the faster cars.
    We finished that race in 4th overall and 2nd in IMSA Gp4, after falling out of the Gp4 lead with an engine problem. We pitted our Porsche RSR at 3am, installed a new engine and got back out, losing 33 minutes.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      OMFG, you're the team owner of that car - I was expecting you to be some driver or some mechanic or something like that but you were the owner, the entrant
      Thank you sir for being still so much into racing to the point of following small motorsports-related accounts on TH-cam, always awesome to see someone so into motorsports after so many years!
      PS: You need to do a podcast or something telling tales from the 1970s and such, would be beyond cool, I'm sure you've seen all kinds of wild stuff

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +99

      It's really cool to hear from people who've played active roles in this race. An engine change in 33 minutes sounds fantastic, especially given the era as well.

    • @TheGrinXpedia
      @TheGrinXpedia ปีที่แล้ว +31

      THE DYER HIMSELF!!!!!
      Your team's 1977 Daytona24 win still is one of most glorious endurance wins ever, right up there alongside the Ueno Clinic F1 GTR in LM24 1995 and the race of the flying cars (LM24 1999)

    • @Cmoredebris
      @Cmoredebris ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@TheGrinXpedia Thank you very much for the comment.
      To be clear... we came in 2nd (IMSA Gp4) and 4th oa at the '77 Daytona 24hr, close but not a win.
      We did win the '77 Sebring 12hr overall and the Daytona Paul Revere 250 later in '77.

    • @longsleevethong1457
      @longsleevethong1457 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s like “thank you for your service” from car people. It’s cool to hear from the dudes that really did this stuff.

  • @emdotrod
    @emdotrod ปีที่แล้ว +122

    That time when an LMP2 car nearly won overall at Le Mans in 2017 is also a great story

    • @barkyracing500
      @barkyracing500 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An LMP2 won the 2016 daytona 24

    • @tohruberthon47
      @tohruberthon47 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@barkyracing500 Strangely the only time it ever happened when LMP2 had a legit race winning shot at the race

    • @isthisagoodname6279
      @isthisagoodname6279 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@barkyracing500I believe that was when lmp2 and dpi were both considered part of the the top class of imsa

  • @DBerwick
    @DBerwick ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In 1994, Steve Millen won the 24hrs of Daytona in a Cunningham-prepared GTS Nissan 300ZX twin turbo. Not only did he win, he started from pole. He also won Sebring that year.

  • @stijnpaspont
    @stijnpaspont ปีที่แล้ว +117

    The first gen DP's were slow and in most cases terribly ugly. But they did build the foundations of american prototype racing. Dp to dpi to gtp now. I bet some people wouldnt have expected that after the 2003 daytona race

    • @DM0407
      @DM0407 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think American endurance racing managed to survive IN SPITE of Bill Frances terrible decision making. The reason we have what we have now is that he finally stepped down. Panoz kept the flame burning in those dark days.

    • @izzdin6228
      @izzdin6228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ayy what's good my dude. Nice to see you in other sportscar vids.

  • @Dmooreslotreviews
    @Dmooreslotreviews ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If 2 classes can't keep out of trouble and a plucky GT takes it, then good on them, its endurance racing, they endured. Always fun to see this stuff

    • @Dmooreslotreviews
      @Dmooreslotreviews ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WyldStallion-bs9oo ha yeah, I think that the increased reliability is a good thing, but you can never underestimate the possibilities of mechanical failures or accidents

  • @pmbunmahafajarastanaprima5009
    @pmbunmahafajarastanaprima5009 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    This is what we call, expect the unexpected.
    This is why I love endurance motorsport.
    Fastest car is not the guarantee that you will win. Slower car is not the guarantee that you will lose.

    • @luissera1296
      @luissera1296 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember on a old episode of top gear when they did the 24 hours of silverstone in the BMW diesel. After crashing it the front splitter falling off the car being down on power they still ended up setting the most laps for their class of car.

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s why they need to start randomly activating traps around the road, only the strongest will survive

  • @ZeroArsov
    @ZeroArsov ปีที่แล้ว +344

    The 2001 Daytona 24 Hours also had a GT (technically GTS) car win, with a Corvette taking the top spot, and a GT Porsche driven by Randy Pobst and co. taking second place 8 laps down. The overall-leading "SRP" prototype of Dyson Racing had a hefty 27-lap lead over the Corvette, but ended up retiring late into the race when the engine blew up.

    • @JoshuaC923
      @JoshuaC923 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I see Randy Pobst i like

    • @flintstone1409
      @flintstone1409 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He said that at the end of the video

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 911 has won Daytona many times overall... Including in 1973 with the Rs and all through the late 70s and and early 80s with the 935....... In the late 90s a gt2 evo got lucky and also won overall.....

    • @EAGYSL
      @EAGYSL ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just watch the video before commenting its something i would recommend!

    • @kindledlight
      @kindledlight ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Viper GTS-R did it before the Vette in 2000 as well.

  • @legoferrari14
    @legoferrari14 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 1995 LM24 saw the McLaren F1 in the GT1 class beat out the prototypes in the race; and remember, the F1 came _before_ the era of the thinly-veiled prototypes in the second half of 1990's GT1 racing.

  • @accampbell
    @accampbell ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That race was insane. I remember watching that race live. It was incredible because of how rare it was. Also insane was Tony Stewart the next year almost winning with three wheels on his prototype.

  • @brianeast9081
    @brianeast9081 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    At the 2003 Spa 24 Hour, a second level NGT class car won the race outright beating all the cars in the much faster GT category.

    • @Dexter037S4
      @Dexter037S4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That is one of the most scuffed races I have ever watched.
      It's a shit ton of nostalgia though because G T R 2

    • @s2korpionic
      @s2korpionic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dexter037S4 Same!

    • @mtekleel
      @mtekleel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know that one from GTR 2 but the difference in speed between an NGT and GT car is not that great compared to the difference between a GT and a prototype. The 2003 spa 24 was a race of attrition, also with a lot of rain, nearly every car had some sort of damage...what an interesting race it was!

  • @DiegoRuiz1991
    @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    2022 Bol d'Or also had a great story
    · 100 years after the first edition, it's the only major motorsports event that keeps changing venues (places like Le Mans, Magny Cours and even Linas-Monthlery have hosted it)
    · Teams of 3 riders will ride for 24h on sportbikes around the full chicaneless version of Paul Ricard - A total of 6 factory-backed sportbikes showed up, 1 for each of the Big 4 Japanese brands plus 1 more for BMW and Ducati
    · It's just SBK-like and STK1000-like machinery on 2 classes - Making a sportbike extremely durable or easy to repair is borderline impossible, there's no room in there and weight is extremely important when you're manhandling it for 24 hours
    · Honda-TSR, Yamaha-Austria (better known as YART) and Suzuki Endurance (better known as SERT) were fighting for the championship in this final race with a 50% point bonus
    · The race started with a very strong Mistral wind going down the extremely long uninterrupted Mistral straight, helping the sportbikes easily reach 200+mph
    · After 4 hours, most of the top sportbikes had had major mechanical problems including BMW and - The reason is of course unclear but it's very likely that everyone miscalculated how much the Mistral wind could help them and got out with a 6th gear a tad too short
    · Ducati-ERC, the worst factory-backed team, was leading the race but with 2 riders instead of 3 - They're also the least-reliable top team all around including the Panigale V4R being the hardest to work on. They hoped that Chaz Davies could get a good night and maybe come out to at least do a stint or 2 during the morning.
    · Kawasaki-Tati, 1 of the best privateer teams, was suddenly in championship contention - SERT, YART and BMW were OUT while Honda-TSR is battling a very faulty bike with lengthy pitstops
    · Night started falling and it was Ducati-ERC vs Kawasaki-Tati for the lead. If Honda-TSR could make it to the top5 by the end, Kawasaki-Tati would need to win it all.
    · Shortly after midnight, Ducati-ERC had to change the entire clutch of the Panigale V4R, a common failure so they've done it before and only needed like 10-12 minutes, which is rather crazy by sportbike standards - After that stop, the whole top3 was just privateers (Kawasaki-Tati, Yamaha-Viltais and Yamaha-Wojcik)
    · At the halfway point (3:00), top3 was all in the same lap (Ducati-ERC passed Yamaha-Wojcik for 3rd a few minutes earlier) with Honda-TSR in 5th several laps behind.
    · By the 16th hour, Ducati-ERC was back in the lead with Honda-TSR 5th and Kawasaki-SRC (the factory-backed Kawasaki) in 6th like 40-50 minutes behind if we translate laps behind to time - BTW, Davies never got back on the bike. David Checa and Xavi Forés are doing a 2-man run for the 2022 Bol d'Or
    · The 19th hour killed the dream for Kawasaki-Tati , which meant Honda-TSR got the 2022 FIM EWC title - Kawasaki-Tati came back on track at the very end to complete 2 laps to show up as "finishers"
    · With 90 minutes left, Honda-TSR went for the umpteenth lengthy pitstop and Ducati-ERC went for their 2nd clutch change... except the Panigale V4R was having more issues than initially expected and their 2-man dream run died after rejoining in 5th many laps behind the leader. Who the Hell was leading? Yamaha-Viltais closely followed by Yamaha-Wojcik, great fight until the end... which actually lasted only like 3 minutes because Yamaha-Wojcik somehow broke their chain and lost like 2 laps because of it
    · RESULTS = Yamaha-Viltais became the 1st privateer since Honda-National won the 2006 LM24 ahead of Yamaha-Wojcik with Kawasaki-SRC in 3rd, Honda-TSR in 4th and Ducati-ERC getting their best result in a 24h race with 5th overall

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Endurance racing is certainly an odd beast, I think the crown goes to the Nurburgring 24 Hours since even just last year they had 173 entries in 21 classes (4 of which where single entry classes)

    • @mashy0001
      @mashy0001 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And two of the classes are for sports cars and touring cars not fitting in any of the other classes!

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mashy0001 No other series has something some guys made in a garage in their free time racing along side factory teams stress testing parts.

    • @mionellessi3086
      @mionellessi3086 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WyldStallion-bs9oo I don´t understant the FCY and then SC. There is even saying that safety cars breed safety cars. It is in no way really safer than just FCY, because FCY doesn´t bring a field of 60 cars together.

    • @TheGrinXpedia
      @TheGrinXpedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      funnily enough 173 entries is a low entry number for N24, normally it gets to around ~200 entries... and the Dacia

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I watched the TH-cam replay of the 2022 24 Hours and was fascinated. With 170 cars on the track, frightening speed differentials and the number of fast sweeping corners, the skill needed to maneuver the faster cars is above any other. Daytona and LeMans don't come close. I am hooked now for life.

  • @I_Hate_Youtube_Handles
    @I_Hate_Youtube_Handles ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This why I love motorsport

  • @SJgunguy24
    @SJgunguy24 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bucky is a great guy and he was tremendously proud of that win. "S car go, you can eat it but you can't beat it." Was the motto for Bucklers team. He went on to start a nascar team.

  • @neaulllann
    @neaulllann ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think the most famous case of this is the 1995 24h of Le Mans when McLaren win

  • @stenovitz
    @stenovitz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where did time go? Feels like just yesterday I as an European watched this full Rolex 24Hours Daytona event, no sleep whatsoever, nothing to keep me alive but pure racing and excitement.

  • @billrader4907
    @billrader4907 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for making this video, really brought back some memories from 20 years ago. I was on the TRG team, mechanic, and that was me putting the driver in the car in the pit stop you showed in the video. :) We also just completed a preservation mechanical restoration on that car at my shop in Las Vegas in preparation of it going to Daytona last week for a celebration of the 20th anniversary.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome to hear. Glad you enjoyed the video and obviously congratulations for being part of that winning team. I saw a few photos of that car on social media, looked amazing!

  • @pocok5000
    @pocok5000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one of the drivers, Timo Bernhardt, holds the current overall lap record on the nordschleife with the 919 evo

  • @TheProkonover
    @TheProkonover ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Unpopular opinion: Prototypes were and are a mistake.
    To me, they are cool. They look good and are crazy fast. However, i feel like the ""spirit of endurance racing"" should be taking a road legal sport, super sport or hyper car and preparing it to be race ready. Not cars specifically build and designed for the competition.
    In today's racing, that would mean getting rid of cars that in some way look like old LMP1/2 cars and racing with cars like:
    Aston Martin Valkirie, McLaren Senna, Mercedes AMG project One, Ferrari LaFerrari, etc....
    I want to see those cars in endurance racing, not cars like the Porsche 963 even if it looks crazy good.

    • @cademckee7276
      @cademckee7276 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Your opinion is literally wrong. Prototypes have existed in sports car racing for as long as it’s existed. The majority of early Le Mans cars where prototypes

    • @DM0407
      @DM0407 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Your opinion is literally wrong" - This person's definition of "opinion" and "literal" must be wild.

    • @cademckee7276
      @cademckee7276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DM0407 Because my point was that it doesn’t stand on facts at all nor does it even make sense.

  • @Fitch93
    @Fitch93 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It was a transitional set of years, IMSA/USRRC/GrandAm's prototype classes were in constant flux on the backside of the GTP era. From 1994 to 2002 the top prototype class had gone by 4, technically 5 different names. from IMSA's World Sports Car, USRRC's CanAm, and GrandAm's Sportsracer, then Sportsracer Prototype I alongside Sportsracer Prototype II. International sportscar racing was going through a similar fate on the backside of Group C, The late 90's were dominated by GT cars culminating in the GT1 class at LeMans that were basically Prototype's that looked kinda sorta like a GT car, except the Toyota GT-One.
    I don't think it reflects anything on anything other than it was a year for a new "top class" that had limited entries and not much development time.

    • @FMecha
      @FMecha ปีที่แล้ว +5

      During that period, the McLaren F1 GTR did manage to win Le Mans overall in 1995, being the only pure production car to do so.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FMecha - It was the GTR version so not much of a production car at all - By your standards the 911 GT1, CLK GTR and R390 GT1 were all legit "production cars" too

  • @evanoeab9118
    @evanoeab9118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a pretty interesting vid t owatch. And aye thanks for not dragging it on for longer than it needed to be. Made it very enjoyable to just listen to a story without too many extra facts here and there.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't want it to be bare bones, but equally didn't want to drag it on. I just thought I'd mention the points that I felt were the most important, as well as the things that people forget about sometimes (such as the Marcos Mantis). I'm glad you enjoyed the video though.

  • @GOICOBA
    @GOICOBA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As the fan I am, I was about to say "...and of course it was a Porsche.", but they had some serious casualties also :D

  • @blinco1539
    @blinco1539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video! I really appreciate you showing footage of things you’re talking about. I can’t imagine how much time you spent researching clips alone!

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. In terms of how long it took me to make this video. I don't know exactly but it probably comes to around 14-15 hours. That includes research, writing a script, voiceover, sorting out clips and editing.

  • @thatonenigeriansformula
    @thatonenigeriansformula ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2000s endurance gt racing was the pinnacle of racing, they were still grounded and looked like public marketting car

  • @russianbubbawallace8681
    @russianbubbawallace8681 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been binging your videos recently, you really do deserve more subs. Every video has been fantastic. I love it

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad that you're enjoying the content. That's very kind of you to say that I deserve more subscribers. I'm delighted that I've gone over 2,000 subscribers today.

  • @TheChrisD
    @TheChrisD ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2015 Petit Le Mans would like a word.

    • @K9RacingAndStuff
      @K9RacingAndStuff ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, that was an embarrassment for Continental Tire at a whole; ok sure the GTLM wets were factory tires and allowed to be prepped with all sorts of tricks but even then, Tandy was consistently making it to the overall lead in spite of standard IMSA restart procedure.

    • @maplemiles3381
      @maplemiles3381 ปีที่แล้ว

      That race had a lot of rain that gave Porsche team and advantages

    • @maplemiles3381
      @maplemiles3381 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WyldStallion-bs9oo basically that race goal was has the least amount of spins and porsches are really good wet weather cars given their size

  • @TankSlappr
    @TankSlappr ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You definitely need to make a video on the 2016 Rolex 24, and how an lmp2 car won overall, and how the deltawing was almost victorious.

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ahh, the deltawing. Loved that car for its non-traditional approach. It was fast with the Nissan v6 and had great dynamics. However, the bump and grinder impatient LMP1 drivers totally abused their size and kept cutting it too close on many occasions until it was literally knocked out. I wished for an all Deltawing series, as a support series, but money and interest wasn't there...would love for a new deltawing to return to lemans in garage 56 and try again.

    • @TankSlappr
      @TankSlappr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@K03sport in an alternate universe they would be the Indy cars right now

    • @PttyBlue43
      @PttyBlue43 ปีที่แล้ว

      The top class in IMSA in 2016 was Daytona Prototypes and LMP2 cars so an LMP2 car winning isn’t surprising

    • @TankSlappr
      @TankSlappr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PttyBlue43 I'd say it was a little surprising considering that the DP class had won over the PC class the previous 2 years. I'm not 100% sure but I think the PC (lmp2) cars were nerfed a little bit or else they would have destroyed the DP every year.

    • @PttyBlue43
      @PttyBlue43 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TankSlappr The top class always wins over the PC class. The PC class cars were slow and driven by Dentist. When IMSA and Grand Am merged, the Daytona Prototypes were upgraded to the levels of an LMP2 car. So it was even (well not really but). When the non manufacture specific LMP2 cars in the Prototype class started winning, the manufactures complained and that’s how we got DPi and LMP2, with the DPi ruleset being faster than LMP2 but slower than LMP1

  • @zeredwhirlpool7455
    @zeredwhirlpool7455 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Imagine if an LMP3 car somehow wins overall this year XD

    • @pl_max59
      @pl_max59 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      nah a dentist can't achieve such things

    • @NickG40
      @NickG40 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh god oh fuck.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And LMP2 car came really close to winning it all just a few years ago. And of course there was LeMans a few years ago where Jackie Chan's LMP2 almost won it.

    • @naturalborndylla
      @naturalborndylla ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wingracer1614I think the Porsche RS spyders took a few overall wins despite being classified as lmp2

    • @MDDeGrande1994
      @MDDeGrande1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, it all comes to reliability as no.1 priority, despite also mostly needing speed/quickness to set a big gap in pace, if you know what I mean. Therefore, if your car is the most durable, it fully and rightfully deserves the (overall) win. Porsche 911 GT1-98 Evo winning the 1998 24 Hours of Le Mans (one of the *slowest* cars on the grid and in its class that year in terms of top speed, despite being a full-blown prototype) is the best example of it.

  • @bartomiejczerwinski5897
    @bartomiejczerwinski5897 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A custom video about history and development of DP's may be needed. The strange shape of these vehicles was due to
    A. Requirement that radiators are in front of windshield (this made the noses ugly)
    B. Wiiide greenhouse area. This was done to make cars draggy. The series owners wanted to limit top speed at Daytona to 200mph and use GT engines. With healthy power and limited areo the best way to add drag was big windscreens.
    It was nice that there were so many different car developers at the start of DP era. This is very uncommon now. What happened to these developers, and who were them?
    For sports cars with similarly absurd sized closed cockpits, check out the late 60s "sport prototipo argentino".
    Also, consider a video about "Team Racing Auto Circuit (TRAC)" failed racing series.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The final version of the DPs is hella underrated as the Corvette DP was a much cheaper version of what some GT1 cars were (specially the 911 GT1) - It baffles me how not more manufacturers tried to make similar cars with their own bodies
      Vantage DP, 911 DP, 458 DP and many more would've all worked, the platform was damn cool

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can certainly look into doing a video on the history of the Daytona Prototype.

    • @mikehunt9894
      @mikehunt9894 ปีที่แล้ว

      The later years of DP where great. Those Corvette DPs looked and sounded phenomenal.

  • @saleemwaheed9956
    @saleemwaheed9956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched this race flag to flag. Full of excitement and speed. Kevin’s team was top class!

  • @VelumCaeli
    @VelumCaeli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the exact reason why I love endurance racing.

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1995 was the last time a nonprototype won LeMans. The McLaren F1 GTR-BMW.

  • @autdelux
    @autdelux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thats amazing i never knew a gt car has ever won a overall 24h where other classes where in. cool video thanks for that

  • @teraln
    @teraln ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favourite races ever is also the 2015 petit Lemans, with Nick Tandy (the goat) carrying the car to victory in the pouring rain!

  • @supersalmon2279
    @supersalmon2279 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video! Something similar happened in 2003 at the Spa 24hr! The Freisinger Motorsport Porsche won overall beating the GT class and G2 cars to win overall in a NGT 911!

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video! I'll have to have a look at the Spa 24 Hours in 2003, seems to be mentioned a fair bit in the comments of this video.

    • @supersalmon2279
      @supersalmon2279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TyDye RacingGaming no worries! I mean, I had inside help because it's featured in GTR2. When I was young, I had to look up who won the races and the shook when I found out!

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supersalmon2279 I never really followed the Spa 24 Hours until 2012 when the GT3 era was in full swing. However, it sounds like an awesome story. Also, GTR2 is a brilliant game.

  • @BilleeVB
    @BilleeVB ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m waiting for the PLM episode of when this happened 😂

  • @mikulitsi1819
    @mikulitsi1819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have been always wondering that what if this would happen in WEC or IMSA. Didn't know it had already happened 🤣 Great video!

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes I do feel that the existence of the prototype classes diminishes the value of these races.
    The history of endurance racing is founded in proving the reliability of road cars, now maybe it could be said that the prototype manufacturers to employ their endurance lessons in designing new cars, but you're never going to walk into a showroom and buy a race winning car for yourself like you could in the old days (ok maybe those are very very old days, but whether it's LeMans or Daytona, I do feel that racing should become more connected to the road car market).

  • @fa-ajn9881
    @fa-ajn9881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, Viper, and Saleens all on track at once. What a golden era. Corvette really hit their stride here and when the c6 came out dominated. The C5 did great as well, but the most entertaining and iconic era for me is this right here.

  • @171apples171
    @171apples171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too beat the prototypes in a GT car... the first GRID game was so awesome lol

  • @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
    @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait for the 24 Hours Of Daytona tomorrow, and I mean hey; I like the GT class more than the prototype class anyways. No disrespect.

  • @IvanPandev
    @IvanPandev ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great work and fun topic :) keep it up!

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed the video, I'll do my best to keep up standards (or preferably make them better).

  • @Quintinohthree
    @Quintinohthree ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could perhaps better be titled "when the slowest class won the Daytona 24 hours overal ... and second ... ... and third!"

  • @A.J.1656
    @A.J.1656 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Speedvision AKA Speed Channel was the best thing to ever happen to television. I hear it's going to come back, but I don't know if it will be racing or just people building cars with an artificial deadline and cussing so much it makes about half the dialogue bleeping sounds.

    • @DeevFactor
      @DeevFactor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I for one welcome excessive bleeping sounds for half the dialogue. Makes everything better!

    • @A.J.1656
      @A.J.1656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DeevFactor
      It would be funnier if they used a variety of sounds like a quack, ahh-oogah horn, buzzer etc.
      Or they could use a doorbell sound and drive everyone with a dog crazy. Haha

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Less talking on those shoes, the better. Speed vision was more than car racing. They gave exposure to fringe stuff including boats and snow machines. I did like their coverage of Australian races and the ROW approach. If it went fast, speed vision has it.

    • @A.J.1656
      @A.J.1656 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@K03sport
      Wasn't it Two Wheeled Tuesday's and Water Wednesdays?
      It really was an awesome channel.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even though Speed Channel wasn't available in my country. Some of it's programmes and live race categories were put on Motors TV. It helped introduce me to motorsports over in the US.

  • @wolfgamingnetwork3542
    @wolfgamingnetwork3542 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The next time a GT car won overall in any major sportcar championship (wec alms grand am and imsa) would be in 2015 at Petit Lemans where a GTLM Porsche claimed the top spot over another GTLM BMW

  • @ADAKAR83
    @ADAKAR83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24h SPA 2003 was won by lower class Porsche 996 GT3 RS from Freisinger Motorsport.
    There was no prototype, only GT1 class (Ferrari 550, Lister Storm, Viper etc.)
    Porsche 996 and Ferrari 360 where the NGT class (its like GT3 and GT4 today)

  • @r0cking4life
    @r0cking4life ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car was on display this past weekend. I was in love. FRIED EGG FOREVER

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Oreca Viper GTS was so so good in Gran Turismo 3...

  • @jamesolsen1150
    @jamesolsen1150 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    one of my favorite daytona 24 hour races

  • @apophisstr6719
    @apophisstr6719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The absolute consistency

  • @morkmeatshield5373
    @morkmeatshield5373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do remember watching this race and seeing all the faster Daytona Prototype cars drop out of contention for the overall victory because this was the first ever race for the DP cars and they haven't had all the kinks ironed out of them, the reliability wasn't there at the beginning and Porsche GT cars are usually the best when it came to reliability. The 2003 race wasn't the survival of the fastest, but the survival of the fittest and the #66 Porsche did just that.

  • @MMR_LM
    @MMR_LM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2003 Le Mans winning Bentley Speed 8 was an LMGTP so teeeeeechnically both a GT and a Prototype

  • @johnwhitmore4395
    @johnwhitmore4395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool story of the race ! Thanks I enjoyed that

  • @kondjedes4866
    @kondjedes4866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that Marcos from Cor Euser. Was lucky enough to see it drive myself. The sound it produced was something else!!

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      Those Marcos cars do look awesome. Haven't seen one yet at any race events I've been too.

  • @MaunoKoivistoOfficial
    @MaunoKoivistoOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, this video has blown up. Congrats.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm astounded at the response to this video. It's blown my mind.

  • @edthri
    @edthri ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it hilarious when this sort of thing happens

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boris Said Saad? Havent heard that name for years. Brings me right back

  • @Qaianna
    @Qaianna ปีที่แล้ว

    I now have 'Beep beep/ Beep beep/ The little Nash Rambler goes beep beep' stuck in my head after seeing this.

  • @mikejohnson5900
    @mikejohnson5900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great story! Thank you.

  • @CW-yp9jo
    @CW-yp9jo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved that Dark Dog Livery for the S7 both irl and in the original forza motorsport.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      That livery does look cool I agree.

    • @DM0407
      @DM0407 ปีที่แล้ว

      The S7 is such a beautiful car... And I hated it at the time. It felt like they were building a faux prototype to beat my beloved Yellow Corvettes.

  • @trance9158
    @trance9158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's what endurance racing is all about.

  • @OzarkTroutBum
    @OzarkTroutBum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was at Petit Le Mans 2015? when Porsche GTLM 911 took overall win. Rain was HORRID and it was yellow after yellow all day. Nobody could keep it on track. They squeezed in 8hrs of racing chaos before they finally had enough before they threw the red flag and Porsche got the checkered

  • @casesully50
    @casesully50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those old 360 Modena GT cars look so beautiful

  • @dclark142002
    @dclark142002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turns out pure speed isn't the ONLY thing in endurance racing...

  • @existinginaspace8347
    @existinginaspace8347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to watch a fair bit of Rolex grand am back when I could record it on speed. You just don't see the prototypes break much anymore..I rarely ever see anyone in GT up front. Kind takes some of the fun out of it.

  • @heretustay
    @heretustay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the intense shot of nostalgia that every moment of this video gave me is fucking surreal. my dad was at that race, we followed along on tv (RIP Speed Channel) from home, and later, he took us to the VIR race when the series came around later in the season. jesus, this is the race and series that made me fall in love with motorsport, i never truly appreciated that 🥲❤️

  • @p00pie
    @p00pie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lovely video. gotta love the 996. Timo Bernhard went onto smash the nurburgring lap record in the Porsche 919 Evo.

  • @gchampi2
    @gchampi2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's also the 1995 Le Mans, where the Mclaren F1 (GT1) beat all the prototypes.

  • @Paolo_Pinkas747
    @Paolo_Pinkas747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same year, nearly the same car: 24h of Spa saw also the Victory of a then called "N-GT" over a "GT" car by 8 Laps. For sure, rain and kind of a crazy race for the GT cars helped a lot, but they did it.

  • @fearandloathingmedia2051
    @fearandloathingmedia2051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    M8 I live down the street from Daytona International Speedway, I've been to plenty of the Rolex races growing up as a kid but I did not happen to go to this one, but I've never heard of this happening before.

  • @YoSuey
    @YoSuey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching this live. This was back when Speed would show almost the entire race.

  • @rainbowrailroadcrossing7798
    @rainbowrailroadcrossing7798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew Honda made a 3.9L V6 must be a bored out J37 platform I’d assume. The prototype J39 is probably the largest Honda engine alongside the experimental Honda CVCC Cadillac V8 that was modified to prove V8’s can have the same gas efficiency as their 4cyl engines

  • @stephenrobert7987
    @stephenrobert7987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2015 Petit Le Mans Porsche 911 won overall, highest Daytona Prototype car was third

  • @MattToomey-ed5bf
    @MattToomey-ed5bf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video! Would you be interested in doing an interview with Kevin Buckler, the team owner and part of the winning team from this year?

  • @zackspeed100
    @zackspeed100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    73 Brumos won outright with a 911. Though it was in the prototype class due to taking a RS and putting RSR underpinnings it was still a GT car winning outright.

  • @matthew1hyndman
    @matthew1hyndman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Video. I'm probably being a bit pedantic here but the GT class racing in Grand Am in 2003, was the FIA N-GT Class which is the equivalent to today GTE Class (or the GT Le Mans class that race in IMSA up to the 2001 season) rather than the GT3 (or GT Daytona Class).

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Also thanks for clarifying on the car regulations front.

  • @paulglock3298
    @paulglock3298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was there...that was an amazing race...everybody was cheering them on, for hours- the little Porsche that could...

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed the race. Seemed great from a spectators perspective.

  • @tinglydingle
    @tinglydingle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the same year (I think, maybe 2004) an NGT car won the Spa 24h as well, beating all the GT1 cars.

  • @matthewmartin5299
    @matthewmartin5299 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was there that year. What a fun race.

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      It certainly looked fun to watch from a spectator perspective. Glad to hear you enjoyed it.

  • @pl_max59
    @pl_max59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video mate

  • @PorscheRacer14
    @PorscheRacer14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching this at the time. Pretty wild to see. Hearing Timo brings back memories. Where does the time go?

  • @zR0y4l7y
    @zR0y4l7y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God the s7 is hot as hell

  • @snakebitten6967
    @snakebitten6967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the Oreca Vipers won a 24 hr race outright as well. I believe it was before the Vette did it. I remember watched it totally shocked back in the day.
    Video didn’t load only the comment section. I see they mentioned the Vipers as well.

    • @gathel8574
      @gathel8574 ปีที่แล้ว

      They won in the class but overall they placed in 10th

    • @snakebitten6967
      @snakebitten6967 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gathel8574 no they won overall at Daytona one year.

  • @sgreenfield4
    @sgreenfield4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The DP cars were abominations; an offense to the eyes. I do not miss them at all.

  • @farnum3297
    @farnum3297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aaahh... the good ol' 911/ Mezger. More victories than any racing car/engine. Look it up.

  • @nighttimer5487
    @nighttimer5487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the 2017 24h of Le Mans, a LMP2 was leading the race until the morning due to problems for the LMP1 teams.

  • @sepg5084
    @sepg5084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, Mclaren GTR once had an overall win at Le Mans. But it was a GT1 car.

  • @acecombat2shill
    @acecombat2shill ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:44 either that's the weakest guardrail ive ever seen or that thing was going at top speed

    • @mpf1947
      @mpf1947 ปีที่แล้ว

      Based on where it was positioned, it was probably by design that it broke away how it did. Only meant to slow down a car from race speeds rather than try to bring it to a stop.

  • @nicke9910
    @nicke9910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fenomenal content!

  • @marioncobretti2407
    @marioncobretti2407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 2018 ford GT almost won, they came 3rd won the GT class.

  • @josepg.2479
    @josepg.2479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has to be PORSCHE. This constructor has the record of overall wins in Daytona and Le Mans, no one other brand could say that, not even that italian factory who self claims that is the best sports car manufacturer in the world

  • @TheNecromancer6666
    @TheNecromancer6666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GT cars are scenery. People are there for the Protos. And Protos should be like the older LMP1 cars of the 200p - 2010 or 2014 to 2017 Generations. Running at F1 racepace.

  • @jackmiller-johnston8689
    @jackmiller-johnston8689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Race pace didn't matter in this race. Just don't crash, and don't break down. Simple, right? Aah, endurance racing is always way more interesting than that!!

  • @tokyosmash
    @tokyosmash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daytona IS the most prestigious automobile race in the USA, as is the Daytona 200 for motorcycles.
    Also, DP replaced Can Am cars.

  • @ga-america5030
    @ga-america5030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching this

  • @JTT0509
    @JTT0509 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My buddy actually raced in this race. He ran in the #57 stevensons porsche. His name was Chip Vance

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome to hear! Good to see that he and the team finished the race for 2004.

  • @parkerjacobs4493
    @parkerjacobs4493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had the car on display at the race this year. Pretty cool story

    • @tydyeracinggaming4742
      @tydyeracinggaming4742  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, cool! Maybe that's why this video has still been doing incredibly well. People remembered it, and decided to look it up.