As a trucker, the hauler crews honestly just did typical long haul distances for that time period if they are single driver operations, and honestly not that long of a stint if they do two man crews, and that's even factoring in the fact the teams probably did a stop at the team garage between races.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yeah for long haul 600 miles in a day is pretty standard and double that for a 2 man operation. For owner operators you can expect them doing 8 or 9 days of that out of 10 depending on how they balance their legally required rest periods. It's hard work but it's honest work and it pays well.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 It is also worth noting the teams all likely had a different car and hauler sent to Watkins Glen. There's a lot more than just the wings changed over to go from speedway trim to road course trim.
That was one of the main reasons why Texas was repaved. I’m glad they repaved it because they had drainage issues, but they did not need to reduce the banking in turns 1 and 2
I think the repave was necessary but the reprofiling was not. Hopefully, the upcoming repave improves a lot of the problems that this track has had recently.
I attended the 2nd half with a buddy of mine and we had an absolute blast. Sat wherever we wanted on the front stretch, $2 hot dogs, a complimentary t-shirt from TMS for a race I had attended 10ish years earlier, it was a pretty fun race to attend.
Huge Newgarden fan here, so a couple things I’d like to point out: due to how the pit cycles lined up, Josef was actually going to be in the lead after everyone pitted, had Daly not crashed into him. Also, they’ve been friends going back to their Formula Ford days, so it was horrifying to see this happen between them. The other big thing is that this is the race that changed Josef’s career. Broke his collarbone and wrist, but he didn’t miss a race, and at Iowa just a few weeks later, he nearly lapped the entire field on his way to leading the most laps and winning. That, from what I understand, is what ultimately lead to him being signed with Team Penske. Since then, he’s collected 2 championships, 3 second place championship finishes, and won 22.4% of all races in IndyCar. So the wreck, his injury, and his comeback have all lead to one of the greatest careers in modern IndyCar, and in a few years I’m sure we’ll be talking about him as an all-time great as well.
I was aware that both Newgarden and Daly were friends for a very long time. I think Daly in his post crash interview was incredibly hard on himself. It's just one of those unfortunate racing accidents that sometimes occurs in that sort of racing. I'm not surprised that that would've peaked Penske's interest. His determination through his injury and then the win at Iowa were extremely impressive.
I saw something like this in the rules when I was checking them during last season but never thought it had actually been used in any race. Nice information although firstly I was wondering how could a race take 76 days until I saw the rain and realised what was gonna happen later in the video 😅
what a video from a guy with less then 1k subs! i love learning about american motorsports as a turkish f1 fan because it feels so much more wild than f1 is. keep it up!
Thanks for the very high praise, it's great to hear that you rate the video very well. I always try to create story's out of items that people may not have seen before in the world of racing, and in turn create what I hope to be an entertaining video from it.
glad that race never took place. not only because it meant one less time of seeing the ugly as hell CART superspeedway wings but, that would've been a tragic disaster if it'd did, because of how overly fast the cars were running.
i went to both! the first two days were rather frustrating, as youd imagine. it just downpoured. we had to hide under the grandstands for some parts on the first sunday due to severe thunderstorms. But man. the racing at the end of the actual race... unforgettable!!
@TyDye RacingGaming oh, it was epic! They let us all go across the track and into the garage to meet the drivers and see the cars up close and personal and what not. And thats not even to mention the insane racing and finish lol
This makes me think, what would happen if F1's 2021 Spa race got postponed for another day instead of having a safety car procession to pad out the laps
Man, I remember that race. I would prefer the August race start from scratch due to confusion with the June race run from laps 1-71 and the August race was on laps 72-248. Nonetheless, great video
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I think a scenario like what you're suggesting isn't at all unreasonable. I guess they just thought from a fairness standpoint, it made more sense to resume the race from the point of caution.
Indycar on ovals is one of the most nerve-wracking things to watch. Its usually FANTASTIC racing (with a few stinkers here and there). That being said, i cannot believe they just postponed the rest of this race instead of calling it. It was so weird.
When watching the footage back for this race, I tensed up several times. Despite me knowing what happened before hand. I can't imagine what courage it takes to do a move such as that in the cockpit of one of those things. It was a bit strange I agree. I'm glad they did though because the rest of the race was fantastic.
To be clear, the only reason the race was resumed at all was because, by the time it was red-flagged, the minimum distance hadn't been covered. In most F1 races being red-flagged and then ended, the minimum requirement of 75% of all laps IS met. Had the race been red-flagged after lap 125, it would not have been resumed. It was only because that minimum distance had not been covered that this could happen at all.
They were determined to get it done certainly. I mean the chance of another rain impacted day was still possible, so it was definitely dedication to try and complete the race.
The thing about F1 is that you do not need a minimum amount of laps for the race to count; it's only 2 laps of green flag running what F1 needs to declare a race So if this Texas race was an F1 race, they'd have called it a day with 71/248 laps ran and given half points under the old system. Under the new system, 71 laps = 28% of race distance so F1 would give points to the top 9 (13-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1)
A very strange way to handle incomplete races. F1 for instance would just call the race wherever it ended and award points based on the distance covered
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 oh, absolutely. some bloody awesome racing in the second part of the race. just a shame it was during the era when Indycar was borderline unwatchable, due to the arse ugly aerokit cars, and i'd well fallen out of love with the series. got back into it late 2021 though, and now i'm as big of a fan as i was in the 2003-2011.
Here's maybe the craziest stat of them all: NBC had to use two different lead commentators for both portions of this race. Brian Till subbed in for Leigh Diffey, who was off in Montreal doing the Canadian GP for NBC. It should be noted that the F1 race was supposed to air on NBC, with the postponed IndyCar race on NBCSN (where it was also supposed to have aired the night before), but both races got shifted to different networks (F1 to NBCSN, IndyCar to CNBC) because of NBC News's ongoing coverage of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando that had taken place in the early morning hours. When it was time to finally finish it up, Diffey was again unable to do it because of F1 commitments (Belgium, this time), and Till had to work the IMSA race at Virginia International for FS1, so, Kevin Lee had to step in and finish the race.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 definitely coincidental. Guess it’ll probably never happen again though. Now to the video, amazing work, can’t wait for the next video!
So I usually go to this race every year but for this one we were originally not supposed to go since me and my family were going on a cruise to Alaska. So we hear about this on the cruise we found out that this race was going to be delayed for another 76 days which meant that we would be home again (since I used to live about 1 hour away from the track). So when the race restarted I got to see it with my dad and my grandpa and it was worth it with that finish. Unfortunately the track isn't the same anymore and not as good. I actually saw something very similar happen here in October 2020 when the Nascar Cup Series race was delayed for literally 3 whole days. Thankfully, I got to see the whole thing since now I live about 10 minutes from the track even with school in the middle of the delay but at least it started at the perfect time where I could get out of school and make it to the race on time which was also worth since I got to see my favorite driver get his 1 and only win of that season.
That's a lucky set of occurrences then. I'm glad you enjoyed the race though. Certainly, from a television perspective it was definitely worth the wait. Don't know what it is about Texas Motor Speedway having long delays between races.
All the insanity of Texas Indycar races should be its own series on the channel. Seriously, there's been more crazy shit at this track than at most. And it started with the very first race in 1997. Look it up.
F1 Belgian GP in 1985 might be a good choice. They had practiced, but the race was postponed from June to September because the tarmac was completely shattered after the first qualifying session. @@tydyeracinggaming4742
@@simoneghilardini5211 Still, that's between first practice and finish, this was between start and finish. They're quite different things, especially because the latter brings up a lot of questions of how the sporting rules deal with the situation.
Never was I so happy to see Hinch lose a race than a few days after this race. Hinch was fined and docked points for excessive skid block wear after Texas, and a lot of us had a discussion in the comments when IndyCar posted that to Facebook, saying that he probably would've been disqualified had he won the race.
I forgot Hinchcliffe got disqualified. I imagine he probably would've been disqualified, albeit it could depend on how transgressive the skid block was to determine that.
Dixon a lap down is still strange to me. Also I never liked the tight pack racing in either NASCAR or Indy at the time, and 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2011 were textbook examples of why. When the batshit insanity of the Handford Device was safer, you know something was screwed up
Seeing Dixon a lap down is not a usual sight at all. I think cars having differing pace on long runs was why the pack was spread out at certain points.
2003-2011 were honestly my favourite years of Indycar, despite how it ended. gorgeous cars, blissful sounds, and great racetracks defined the IR-05 era, and made it unforgettable for me. i rewatch races from that era all the time, to this day.
ah yes, 2008 st pete, winning in his first start (which was a wet race, mind, only making that more impressive) and fontana 2015 being, well, fontana 2015, and RLL giving him a fast car that in the early part of the race (aka the entire first ~130 laps, all run under green), gave signs of being potentially race-win, which it turning out had been true. probably would've have won even without briscoe's terrifying flight at the white flag.
I don't think Indy drivers get enough credit. The amount of courage it takes to drive an Indycar around an oval at their speeds. And with very soon to be death of NASCAR, this is Indycar time to take
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I was surprised to hear Indy kept a pack-racing aero package. Thought they would of done away with that after Dan Weldon's crash at Las Vegas.
@@eagflc i think it's more of the track's construction then the package that plays into how the race will be but, how the package is is also important. and dan's crash...... still haunts me to this day. RIP Lionheart, 2-time Indianapolis 500 Winner and 2005 IndyCar Series Champion. We'll never forgetting him.
@@DW98rosy I agree track construction definitely plays a key factor. Using Vegas as an example. That track was designed for NASCAR. Indy drivers brought how often and how much they have to turn they were getting dizzy. From turn 3 through 2 they are constantly turning. Oval races are extremely dangerous for Indycar. Now give every car an aero package that prevents the cars from spreading out. Racing is dangerous, that's part of the appeal of it. But when you artificially add to the danger for excitement and ignore the comments of your drivers, well we've seen the outcome
That race, in my view at least, seemed like it had been mostly forgotten about. Which surprised me, given it's unique circumstances and some of the moments that happened in the race.
6:10 I don't know how the rules were back then but at least nowadays even though they would start at the front, they would have the exact same amount of fuel as they had when they came back to the pits when the red flag was waved
I think it was a case of, ultimately the cars that didn't pit prior to the first caution got lucky and then with the unusual scenario of this race, the fuel got reset so to speak, so the ones that didn't pit were the benefactors.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Yeah must've been different back then because now it is like this: Red Condition - intent to restart the race on following day(s) - Cars may be moved to an impound area - Only the following work may be performed: - Battery disconnected - Car radio removed - Car cover must be installed - Two (2) hours prior to the restart of the race Engine, oil and gearbox heaters may be installed - All Cars must be started and ready to grid 30 minutes before the restart Red Condition - Cars released to the Teams - the following procedures will be in effect: - Cars will be taken to the fuel depot; Car’s fuel tank will be filled or drained to determine the amount of fuel in the Car. Prior to being gridded for the restart, Entrants must drain the Car’s fuel tank and return to the fuel depot to have the previously-determined amount of fuel added to the Car’s fuel tank (violation of this results in a 2 lap penalty!) - Tire barcodes will be recorded. These tires must be used until scoring resumes and the Pit Lane has been declared open. INDYCAR may approve all Cars to restart the race on a different set or type of tires. Sorry for this one but 😅 Yeah would be very interested to see a scenario like this again based on the rules now
@@mikulitsi1819 It would be very interesting to see. However, I just think that this sort of scenario is almost never going to happen again. No need to apologise 🤣.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 🤣🤣I feel like the best chance of this happening is during the Month of May - either road course race or the Indy 500 considering how often it rains in Indianapolis during May.
@@mikulitsi1819 It needs to rain exceptionally hard (or there has to be lightning) to delay a road course race at Indianapolis. We've had rain at last year's May GP, you can see just how hard it got at the end.
I didn't see that event so I wouldn't know if that was the case or not. Don't really watch much late model racing. Although, from what I have seen of it, it does look fantastic.
I miss pack racing like this... It was fun until it took the life of one of the great... Maybe today with aeroscreens we could go back to it, but they would definitely need to make it more durable and strong
There were a series of epic enduro's at the 'Ring, from 1965 to 1970. When I say epic, I'm not talking about a 24 hour, or a race interrupted, I'm talking the monster that was the Marathon de la Route. 84 hours of continuous racing in one go. Think about that, 3.5 DAYS of racing, in one shot. To cap it off, there were some seriously weird rules - as an example, the cars were required to complete the same number of laps in the last 12 hours as they did in the first 12 hours, or they got penalized... Might be worth a vid?
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 If you want some suggestions for things that might be worth a video, I've got a few. Things like the time a Rolls Royce won a Grand Prix, or the time Le Mans was won by a tank. The weird & WTF of racing...
Fair point. For me I've always just associated the two being the same thing. However, I'll make sure when referencing US motorsport series to use the term "Pace Car" not "Safety Car".
Indycar's at Texas have been exciting. Up until 2022, the races from 2018 hadn't been quite as interesting with the new Superspeedway kits, coupled with the new configuration. Hopefully, it's reconfiguration can improve the NASCAR product, along with Indycar's product to a certain extent.
not possible. Indycar rules state that the race must reach half distance plus one lap before any prize money or points can awarded. since it didn't get there, the race was postponed to a later date, which honestly, given that this was before TMS was ruined, was a good call. if the race had got to about 130 laps or so, then yes, i'd agree. but only 71 were completed before the red flag, so therefore, no.
Indycar was around nearly 40 years before F1 and they’re two different type of racing neither ripped off the other, you might as well say the Honda Civic is a Japanese Model T ripoff
As a trucker, the hauler crews honestly just did typical long haul distances for that time period if they are single driver operations, and honestly not that long of a stint if they do two man crews, and that's even factoring in the fact the teams probably did a stop at the team garage between races.
If that's a typical long haul journey then I have enormous amounts of respect for the job you all do.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yeah for long haul 600 miles in a day is pretty standard and double that for a 2 man operation. For owner operators you can expect them doing 8 or 9 days of that out of 10 depending on how they balance their legally required rest periods. It's hard work but it's honest work and it pays well.
@@ZontarDow Fair enough in that case. Like I said before, huge respect to all of you for the job you do.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 It is also worth noting the teams all likely had a different car and hauler sent to Watkins Glen. There's a lot more than just the wings changed over to go from speedway trim to road course trim.
@@FormulaFox True. I guess I didn't take that into consideration whilst making this video.
I was lucky enough to go through this whole process of a race and the 76 day wait was worth it
Oh how awesome! As a spectator/fan, team member? I'm glad it was worth it.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 spectator
@@jadendubecky4130 That's fantastic to hear. Like I said in my previous comment, I'm glad it was worth it.
That was one of the main reasons why Texas was repaved. I’m glad they repaved it because they had drainage issues, but they did not need to reduce the banking in turns 1 and 2
I think the repave was necessary but the reprofiling was not. Hopefully, the upcoming repave improves a lot of the problems that this track has had recently.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 that is if the repave/possible reconfigure is able to even put on an indycar race. Its rumored to be another Atlanta
the repave was fine. the reconfigurated, f*cking ruined the place. and it's only got worse since.
I was at all three days that they were on track, it was so worth the 76 day wait because that finish was outstanding to see in person!
It's always great to see comments from people who were at the event. Glad it was worth the wait. That finish was amazing.
As Darrel Waltrip says, "The only lap that matters is the last lap."
He is absolutely right in saying that.
Yesn't
That's how boring American motorsports is ;)
@@derrickstorm6976bro how is a race being decided on the last lap boring
I attended the 2nd half with a buddy of mine and we had an absolute blast. Sat wherever we wanted on the front stretch, $2 hot dogs, a complimentary t-shirt from TMS for a race I had attended 10ish years earlier, it was a pretty fun race to attend.
That's awesome to hear! It did look like a great event to go to as a spectator I must say.
Huge Newgarden fan here, so a couple things I’d like to point out: due to how the pit cycles lined up, Josef was actually going to be in the lead after everyone pitted, had Daly not crashed into him. Also, they’ve been friends going back to their Formula Ford days, so it was horrifying to see this happen between them.
The other big thing is that this is the race that changed Josef’s career. Broke his collarbone and wrist, but he didn’t miss a race, and at Iowa just a few weeks later, he nearly lapped the entire field on his way to leading the most laps and winning. That, from what I understand, is what ultimately lead to him being signed with Team Penske. Since then, he’s collected 2 championships, 3 second place championship finishes, and won 22.4% of all races in IndyCar. So the wreck, his injury, and his comeback have all lead to one of the greatest careers in modern IndyCar, and in a few years I’m sure we’ll be talking about him as an all-time great as well.
I was aware that both Newgarden and Daly were friends for a very long time. I think Daly in his post crash interview was incredibly hard on himself. It's just one of those unfortunate racing accidents that sometimes occurs in that sort of racing. I'm not surprised that that would've peaked Penske's interest. His determination through his injury and then the win at Iowa were extremely impressive.
Honestly Newgarden is OP on ovals, especially Iowa and Texas. It's like he can see the optimal line around the track and just click off laps on it.
I saw something like this in the rules when I was checking them during last season but never thought it had actually been used in any race. Nice information although firstly I was wondering how could a race take 76 days until I saw the rain and realised what was gonna happen later in the video 😅
The circumstances of this race were definitely unique that's for sure.
the 76th day was the most entertaining race i’ve ever seen. i was laughing my ass off in the closing laps
That was an amazing race, especially the last few laps.
what a video from a guy with less then 1k subs! i love learning about american motorsports as a turkish f1 fan because it feels so much more wild than f1 is. keep it up!
Thanks for the very high praise, it's great to hear that you rate the video very well. I always try to create story's out of items that people may not have seen before in the world of racing, and in turn create what I hope to be an entertaining video from it.
Ah yes, Texas Motor Speedway and Indycar/CART.
Just don't forget to talk about the 2001 Firestone Firehawk 600
Ah yes, that wasn't a great moment in the sport's history.
glad that race never took place. not only because it meant one less time of seeing the ugly as hell CART superspeedway wings but, that would've been a tragic disaster if it'd did, because of how overly fast the cars were running.
i went to both! the first two days were rather frustrating, as youd imagine. it just downpoured. we had to hide under the grandstands for some parts on the first sunday due to severe thunderstorms. But man. the racing at the end of the actual race... unforgettable!!
That's awesome to hear. I'm sure the end of the race was worth the wait.
@TyDye RacingGaming oh, it was epic! They let us all go across the track and into the garage to meet the drivers and see the cars up close and personal and what not. And thats not even to mention the insane racing and finish lol
The last 10 laps was some of the best edge of your seat racing I’ve ever seen
That was some very intense racing for sure.
This makes me think, what would happen if F1's 2021 Spa race got postponed for another day instead of having a safety car procession to pad out the laps
I think the race resuming in some capacity would've been the best thing for the spectators (not resumed on the day it was halted but a future date).
Man, I remember that race. I would prefer the August race start from scratch due to confusion with the June race run from laps 1-71 and the August race was on laps 72-248.
Nonetheless, great video
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I think a scenario like what you're suggesting isn't at all unreasonable. I guess they just thought from a fairness standpoint, it made more sense to resume the race from the point of caution.
Indycar on ovals is one of the most nerve-wracking things to watch. Its usually FANTASTIC racing (with a few stinkers here and there). That being said, i cannot believe they just postponed the rest of this race instead of calling it. It was so weird.
When watching the footage back for this race, I tensed up several times. Despite me knowing what happened before hand. I can't imagine what courage it takes to do a move such as that in the cockpit of one of those things. It was a bit strange I agree. I'm glad they did though because the rest of the race was fantastic.
I really have to be in awe at the dedication to getting a full race done, especially as an F1 fan that is far too used to the opposite occurring
To be clear, the only reason the race was resumed at all was because, by the time it was red-flagged, the minimum distance hadn't been covered. In most F1 races being red-flagged and then ended, the minimum requirement of 75% of all laps IS met.
Had the race been red-flagged after lap 125, it would not have been resumed. It was only because that minimum distance had not been covered that this could happen at all.
@@sorrowandsufferin924 Minimum distances eh...Belgium 2021 intensifies :P
They were determined to get it done certainly. I mean the chance of another rain impacted day was still possible, so it was definitely dedication to try and complete the race.
The thing about F1 is that you do not need a minimum amount of laps for the race to count; it's only 2 laps of green flag running what F1 needs to declare a race
So if this Texas race was an F1 race, they'd have called it a day with 71/248 laps ran and given half points under the old system. Under the new system, 71 laps = 28% of race distance so F1 would give points to the top 9 (13-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1)
@@carmarcam98 Once again I make the Belgium 2022 joke with 2 laps of green flag
(Though I think in this case that was introduced after that race)
Yep, i remember that race, Tony Kanaan was laps behind at the first part, recovered and almost won The race.
It was quite the recovery from him in that race.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 It was, the brazilian transmition was on fire with that!
A very strange way to handle incomplete races. F1 for instance would just call the race wherever it ended and award points based on the distance covered
A strange way indeed. However, I'm happy they did continue the race. The ending was certainly worth the wait in my view.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 oh, absolutely. some bloody awesome racing in the second part of the race. just a shame it was during the era when Indycar was borderline unwatchable, due to the arse ugly aerokit cars, and i'd well fallen out of love with the series. got back into it late 2021 though, and now i'm as big of a fan as i was in the 2003-2011.
Texas has the distinction of holding the longest races for Indycar and NASCAR timewise. Impressive.
Here's maybe the craziest stat of them all: NBC had to use two different lead commentators for both portions of this race. Brian Till subbed in for Leigh Diffey, who was off in Montreal doing the Canadian GP for NBC. It should be noted that the F1 race was supposed to air on NBC, with the postponed IndyCar race on NBCSN (where it was also supposed to have aired the night before), but both races got shifted to different networks (F1 to NBCSN, IndyCar to CNBC) because of NBC News's ongoing coverage of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando that had taken place in the early morning hours.
When it was time to finally finish it up, Diffey was again unable to do it because of F1 commitments (Belgium, this time), and Till had to work the IMSA race at Virginia International for FS1, so, Kevin Lee had to step in and finish the race.
The video aside, I’m glad this started on my birthday and finished on my mum’s birthday.
That's quite ironic, as well as quite the coincidence.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 definitely coincidental. Guess it’ll probably never happen again though. Now to the video, amazing work, can’t wait for the next video!
@@JebuzzCrust56 I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'll do my best to make sure they stay up to that standard (or better still).
absolutely fantastic racing
Texas was one of the best tracks on the Indycar schedule every year until the new reconfiguration in 2017
That was some phenomenal racing.
The 1824 Hour race at Texas Motor speedway was a good one
It was indeed! Don't think they'll do another one though.
So I usually go to this race every year but for this one we were originally not supposed to go since me and my family were going on a cruise to Alaska. So we hear about this on the cruise we found out that this race was going to be delayed for another 76 days which meant that we would be home again (since I used to live about 1 hour away from the track). So when the race restarted I got to see it with my dad and my grandpa and it was worth it with that finish. Unfortunately the track isn't the same anymore and not as good. I actually saw something very similar happen here in October 2020 when the Nascar Cup Series race was delayed for literally 3 whole days. Thankfully, I got to see the whole thing since now I live about 10 minutes from the track even with school in the middle of the delay but at least it started at the perfect time where I could get out of school and make it to the race on time which was also worth since I got to see my favorite driver get his 1 and only win of that season.
That's a lucky set of occurrences then. I'm glad you enjoyed the race though. Certainly, from a television perspective it was definitely worth the wait. Don't know what it is about Texas Motor Speedway having long delays between races.
Can you imagine if they did this for Spa F1 2021
All the insanity of Texas Indycar races should be its own series on the channel. Seriously, there's been more crazy shit at this track than at most. And it started with the very first race in 1997. Look it up.
I might have a look at that race in that case then.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 97 is mostly how the race ended, and the aftermath.
And I thought the 2020 NASCAR race at Texas that finished on Wednesday was annoying...
When it comes to rain delays at Texas, that is usually the first one that comes to most peoples mind's.
I still consider Zanardi to finish the 2001 German 500 as the last car on lead lap, 2 years behind the winner.
That was a great moment to see him do that. Emotional that's for sure.
bloody brilliant video
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it.
Huh, didn't know about this. I wonder if there are other races finished months after starting?
I'm interested if we have any other examples of this as well.
F1 Belgian GP in 1985 might be a good choice. They had practiced, but the race was postponed from June to September because the tarmac was completely shattered after the first qualifying session.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742
@@simoneghilardini5211 Still, that's between first practice and finish, this was between start and finish. They're quite different things, especially because the latter brings up a lot of questions of how the sporting rules deal with the situation.
@@simoneghilardini5211 I didn't realise that. I'll have to look up more information on that one.
Never was I so happy to see Hinch lose a race than a few days after this race. Hinch was fined and docked points for excessive skid block wear after Texas, and a lot of us had a discussion in the comments when IndyCar posted that to Facebook, saying that he probably would've been disqualified had he won the race.
I forgot Hinchcliffe got disqualified. I imagine he probably would've been disqualified, albeit it could depend on how transgressive the skid block was to determine that.
I very much enjoy the Manor profile picture.
I'm glad to hear. Although, I'm considering a name change with potentially a custom channel logo to boot later down the line.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 That makes sense. Hope this channel grows!
@@usersixtyseven Thanks for the complement. I hope so to (although I'm a bit biased 🤣).
I remember watching the finish live at 4am Irish time. Let's just say half my house had their sleep interrupted...
I didn't stay up to watch that race unfortunately. It certainly had dramatic moments that's for sure.
Dixon a lap down is still strange to me. Also I never liked the tight pack racing in either NASCAR or Indy at the time, and 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2011 were textbook examples of why. When the batshit insanity of the Handford Device was safer, you know something was screwed up
Seeing Dixon a lap down is not a usual sight at all. I think cars having differing pace on long runs was why the pack was spread out at certain points.
2003-2011 were honestly my favourite years of Indycar, despite how it ended. gorgeous cars, blissful sounds, and great racetracks defined the IR-05 era, and made it unforgettable for me. i rewatch races from that era all the time, to this day.
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Graham Rahal, the king of winning the most chaotic races yet
He seems to have that nailed down pretty well.
ah yes, 2008 st pete, winning in his first start (which was a wet race, mind, only making that more impressive) and fontana 2015 being, well, fontana 2015, and RLL giving him a fast car that in the early part of the race (aka the entire first ~130 laps, all run under green), gave signs of being potentially race-win, which it turning out had been true. probably would've have won even without briscoe's terrifying flight at the white flag.
I don't think Indy drivers get enough credit. The amount of courage it takes to drive an Indycar around an oval at their speeds. And with very soon to be death of NASCAR, this is Indycar time to take
That's one of the things that drew me to this series, the bravery that those drivers have.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I was surprised to hear Indy kept a pack-racing aero package. Thought they would of done away with that after Dan Weldon's crash at Las Vegas.
@@eagflc i think it's more of the track's construction then the package that plays into how the race will be but, how the package is is also important.
and dan's crash...... still haunts me to this day. RIP Lionheart, 2-time Indianapolis 500 Winner and 2005 IndyCar Series Champion. We'll never forgetting him.
@@DW98rosy I agree track construction definitely plays a key factor. Using Vegas as an example. That track was designed for NASCAR. Indy drivers brought how often and how much they have to turn they were getting dizzy. From turn 3 through 2 they are constantly turning. Oval races are extremely dangerous for Indycar. Now give every car an aero package that prevents the cars from spreading out. Racing is dangerous, that's part of the appeal of it. But when you artificially add to the danger for excitement and ignore the comments of your drivers, well we've seen the outcome
So we're not gonna talk about the 2020 Texas fall race?
That had a fairly similar scenario, it just didn't last as long as this race did.
@TyDye RacingGaming I wasn't a racing fan back in 2016 but I understand
I watched that race and forgot it was 76 days damn 😳
That race, in my view at least, seemed like it had been mostly forgotten about. Which surprised me, given it's unique circumstances and some of the moments that happened in the race.
The last Indy Car race at the old pavement.
It was indeed. What a race it was.
What if they applied half points for stoppage instead of resume 76 days later?
It’s like around the world in 80 days
Not to dissimilar to that event indeed.
6:10 I don't know how the rules were back then but at least nowadays even though they would start at the front, they would have the exact same amount of fuel as they had when they came back to the pits when the red flag was waved
I think it was a case of, ultimately the cars that didn't pit prior to the first caution got lucky and then with the unusual scenario of this race, the fuel got reset so to speak, so the ones that didn't pit were the benefactors.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Yeah must've been different back then because now it is like this:
Red Condition - intent to restart the race on following day(s) - Cars may be moved to an impound area - Only the following work may be performed:
- Battery disconnected
- Car radio removed
- Car cover must be installed
- Two (2) hours prior to the restart of the race Engine, oil and gearbox heaters may be installed
- All Cars must be started and ready to grid 30 minutes before the restart
Red Condition - Cars released to the Teams - the following procedures will be in effect:
- Cars will be taken to the fuel depot; Car’s fuel tank will be filled or drained to determine the amount of fuel in the Car. Prior to being gridded for the restart, Entrants must drain the Car’s fuel tank and return to the fuel depot to have the previously-determined amount of fuel added to the Car’s fuel tank (violation of this results in a 2 lap penalty!)
- Tire barcodes will be recorded. These tires must be used until scoring resumes and the Pit Lane has been declared open. INDYCAR may approve all Cars to restart the race on a different set or type of tires.
Sorry for this one but 😅 Yeah would be very interested to see a scenario like this again based on the rules now
@@mikulitsi1819 It would be very interesting to see. However, I just think that this sort of scenario is almost never going to happen again. No need to apologise 🤣.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 🤣🤣I feel like the best chance of this happening is during the Month of May - either road course race or the Indy 500 considering how often it rains in Indianapolis during May.
@@mikulitsi1819 It needs to rain exceptionally hard (or there has to be lightning) to delay a road course race at Indianapolis. We've had rain at last year's May GP, you can see just how hard it got at the end.
Pretty sure the 2022 Dirt Late Model Dream took 90 days or more to finish
I didn't see that event so I wouldn't know if that was the case or not. Don't really watch much late model racing. Although, from what I have seen of it, it does look fantastic.
I miss pack racing like this... It was fun until it took the life of one of the great... Maybe today with aeroscreens we could go back to it, but they would definitely need to make it more durable and strong
I miss the pack racing to a degree. Although, I don't think it should be a regular occurrence.
How can 248 laps at a 1.5-mile track equal 600 miles when it takes 334 laps to equal 500 miles?
Because it's 600 kilometres, not 600 miles.
I was at the race when it first started. Never actually saw the end of the race because I forgot about it
I hope you enjoyed your time there at the race and that the weather didn't completely dampen (no pun intended) the experience.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 it was fun while I was there but I didn’t get to see the resume because I had no way to get back to the track
Ah ok. I'm glad you still enjoyed your time there at least.
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2020 Nascar At Atlanta Took 3 Months To Finish
True, albeit was that the event that got postponed because of the pandemic. If I remember rightly the races didn't start for that one.
If Indycar could resume the race 2 months after it started, then why 2021 F1 Belgium couldnt havee been restared?
I think it's a logistical issue. It's much easier to organise something in a series that takes place in one continent, unlike F1.
pack racing was the best thing ever
Pack racing was pretty cool. I don't think it should be something that we see very often again though.
There were a series of epic enduro's at the 'Ring, from 1965 to 1970. When I say epic, I'm not talking about a 24 hour, or a race interrupted, I'm talking the monster that was the Marathon de la Route. 84 hours of continuous racing in one go. Think about that, 3.5 DAYS of racing, in one shot. To cap it off, there were some seriously weird rules - as an example, the cars were required to complete the same number of laps in the last 12 hours as they did in the first 12 hours, or they got penalized...
Might be worth a vid?
That sounds really interesting, I'll definitely do some research on that. Thanks for bringing that up.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 If you want some suggestions for things that might be worth a video, I've got a few. Things like the time a Rolls Royce won a Grand Prix, or the time Le Mans was won by a tank. The weird & WTF of racing...
@@gchampi2 I'll definitely have to do some more research on those ones. Thanks for mentioning.
Damn catroneves really loved getting close to a crashing Dixon😂
I mean, this and indy 500 2017
Both of those were ridiculously close near misses. Castroneves could at least spare a few metres next time.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 maybe he just loves the danger😂
@@alice__drummer Maybe so. Certainly, isn't up my street though. 🤣
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yeah me neither😂😂
Even the camera quality got better
dat 303 tho
In IndyCar (and NASCAR) it's the Pace Car not the Safety Car.
Fair point. For me I've always just associated the two being the same thing. However, I'll make sure when referencing US motorsport series to use the term "Pace Car" not "Safety Car".
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They actually didn't constantly race for 76 days nonstop like in Dakar or Le Mans, they just waited a long time
Those things in F1 will never happend like this
What did they do because didn't someone die in Pocono
I actually enjoy when IndyCar goes to Texas, but when NASCAR goes… a switch flips and it becomes the absolute worst track imaginable.
Indycar's at Texas have been exciting. Up until 2022, the races from 2018 hadn't been quite as interesting with the new Superspeedway kits, coupled with the new configuration. Hopefully, it's reconfiguration can improve the NASCAR product, along with Indycar's product to a certain extent.
I have part of newgardens crash on my channel
Race should of been official after lap 72 and move on
It would've made more sense logistically. Although, after that finish, I'm glad they didn't.
And now tms is trash
The new track certainly isn't great. Hopefully, the plans for the reconfiguration will be more of a win for fans and drivers alike.
THIS RACE SHOULD BEEN A RAIN SHORTENED INDYCAR RACE BAD MOVE BY INDYCAR
not possible. Indycar rules state that the race must reach half distance plus one lap before any prize money or points can awarded. since it didn't get there, the race was postponed to a later date, which honestly, given that this was before TMS was ruined, was a good call. if the race had got to about 130 laps or so, then yes, i'd agree. but only 71 were completed before the red flag, so therefore, no.
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Indycar is just an american formula 1 ripoff
Indycar is older than F1.
Indycar was around nearly 40 years before F1 and they’re two different type of racing neither ripped off the other, you might as well say the Honda Civic is a Japanese Model T ripoff
no. it's older then f1, and it is objectively better of watching.