Hondas have a thing where when u shift the paddles they still go in auto and shift themselves. Well in Normal mode at least. Not sure why it still went auto in sport mode. Probably he didn't put in sport
@@NicotineRosberg tbh I dont think it went auto at all in this situation. You can hear him click the paddle for each gear shift he made when he said that. Including when he kicked up a gear because he had shifted too many times
Not really. Less gears mean less braking points and less shifting through gears which saves time. 10 speeds are meant for fuel economy and highway cruising not speed. If more gears meant going faster F1 cars or dragstar would have had 20 gears.
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 There is some truth in this. But after all, a large number of gears also contributes to faster acceleration, because each subsequent gear is already at the peak of power and it is easier for the engine to spin it up to the next one
Couldn’t believe the specs when that fusion first came out .. definitely something you wouldn’t expect from a fusion .. hate that they discontinued it . Run it against a Taurus SHO
I ran mine against one at like 5 lights in a row. If you brake boost it, it launches way harder than the sho. But by about the top of 3rd, he started pulling and passed me.
@@fatboyhtownholitdown8932 I bet you didn't factor in that because of the 100hp the ford still has a better power to weight ratio along with the AWD did you?? 11.33 lbs/hp vs 13.09 lbs/hp is a significant advantage. So like he said, "Almost 100hp ahead, bigger engine by .7L, AWD system. What chance did the Accord stand in this race?"
The Accord 2.0T does pretty well; could probably be a hair faster as a 2.0T Sport which is a bit lighter than the Touring version. That said, you should try to sync up this same Fusion and the TLX Type S.
@@dakotawoodruff2622 😑its a 3.0 twin turbo,acura is not mercedes,they have a lot of performance parts,transmission ect,its not the vinyl leather trust me.
@@elic5355 no but the other Gentleman is correct. Your right it's not a Mercedes but it does have a double wishbone suspension in the front. The SH-AWD system is a pretty penny aswell. The Acura is a proven dependable vehicle. Ford has a bad track record with that. That said I'm extremely disappointed in Acura for not going the extra mile and if the Fusion beat it its embarrassing. But it would def b close
@@flip90925 yeah , the camry isnt much much more reliable than the accord. Accord is faster, better looking and more comfortable. Camry reliability 10/10 , accord reliability 9.5/10 , but accord is better in everything else. Accord is quieter , more comfrotable , more refined and has a better suspension set up . With all that being said , i wouldn't blame anyone for going for a camry , i love the camrys 3.5L V6 , its silky smooth .
@@alexion7160 I had the 2019 Camry xse v4 and for sure the Camry has a better ride quality I just bought the accord special edition 1.5t 2022 and man can you feel the bumps much more On the accord that is something I don’t like and Camry is definitely much better at that overall I still would choose the accord again because Toyota has a very old setup inside the dash is all analog and feels old so this time I tried Honda Accord and everything is good expect the what I mentioned so far
Hello brother, great video. Keep them coming. I really want to see you compare the V6 Mustang to the competition. Hardly anyone compares that car, so I would love to see how it performs and thank you.
I'd love to see a Sonata 2.5T or a Kia K5 GT against this Ford Fusion or even a GLI DSG would be a very interesting race.the accord did fairly well against the bigger V6 Turbo powered Fusion
I own a Sonata N-Line and a Fusion Sport, fusion gets it from the dig all day, but from a roll, they’re dead even to 100mph, then the sonata pulls ahead just slightly
@@addisonlessing8709 I have an Edge sport which is the Fusions stablemate (same motor and all) & from a roll it’s like the factory tune is very restrictive the first 3-4 seconds of building boost which is crucial in a roll race. Funny thing is a tune & other upgrades does little to mitigate this. Definitely not turbo lag either btw
It costed more than the accord new tho , especially the sport with the 2.7tt v6 . The accord 2.0T touring is same price the the fusion 2.0T titanium. The fusion was cool becuz for 3-4k more than its competition you get a way faster dad car . Problem is if your buying a family sedan , theirs a lot better options , but i guess if your priority is speed when getting a family sedan , knock yourself out
@@alexion7160 Actually one of Fusion Sport versions did cost about the same as the Accord Touring and because they were not selling all that well it was possible to get it significantly less. I know because I strongly considered it at the time but unfortunately did not end up pulling the trigger. By the time I was ready the car disappeared off lots like a fart in the wind. Just my luck...
@@alexion7160 what lack of options do you speak of. My fusion sport has lane keep/auto cruise/auto parking/awd/great sound system/carplay/moonroof/heated and cooled seats/park sensors/remote start on key fob and Ford app)/auto high beams...and it looks amazing in silver...what options is it missing again?
Had a 2008 2.3 fusion was very quick sprint left anything on the Road....I have the 2012 2.5 fusion SE not too fast but I want to know if it can relearn to be aggressive on the road?
@@justsomeguy697 I do have the 2019 Fusion Sport and it does look like a grandma grocery getter car lol 😂 Also, I love the faces of drivers at the stop lights on the right lane trying to merge onto the middle lane when they couldn’t catch up or beat me to cut me off too 😂 I keep mine stocks 100% so it looks and sounds like a 180hp Fusion since I took of the “Sport” badge but kept the “Ford” & “Fusion”. I had it tuned to 93 so I might be pushing a little more than stock for sure.
Can you please run the tlx type s against the fusion sport I think it would be very close considering they both were close with the accord in the rolls
The fusion sport is not in the same class as the accord 2.0t . His prices are wrong . When new the sport costed 5-6k more. The ford fusion titanium competes against the honda accord touring. Both have 2.0T and same price but the accord beats it .
Sam, another interesting race. When I saw the weight to power ratio, I could have guessed at the outcome of the race. Honda really needs to up the horsepower of the Accord before including AWD in the Accord.
Why, the Accord isn't a race car, it's a family vehicle, at least that's what it's geared toward. Why wasn't the Civic Type R in on this race. That's what you buy if you want more power and handling.
@@Theyralltakenfu yeah never understood this lol. Not to mention the k20c4 is underrated from the factory. They dyno regularly in the 240s which has it around 280ish to the crank, 30hp more than what Honda rates it at. It’s plenty for a daily sedan. If you want more power just type r turbo swap and tune and you’ll be 350+whp all day long. But they aren’t race cars, just really solid daily’s that are kinda quick.
Yea in his first fusion sport video he even said he was had forgotten about fusion sport and eluded to the fact he was not familiar. Fusions are built on a FWD platform. The sports have a FWD biased AWD system. From a roll is going to be when FWD, AWD, RWD won’t matter unless you are dealing with extremely high horsepower applications or weather
Sam i love your Channel and the videos and i mean this in the nicest way possible but damm how are you so bad at manual shifting 😂 it’s a common theme hahaha much respect tho dawg
I drive a 15 fusion ecoboost and love it! I wish I would have gotten the Sport! Would be so cool if Ford brought back the fusion sport with like 380hp and 400TQ.
@@trelltheguy nah it won’t. Kia won’t have the top end to hang with the fusion. Displacement, 2 more cylinders, power advantage and one more turbo. All play a huge role in top end because of fueling and efficiency of the turbo/s
@@zacharycropper5532 no. The K5 will have the better top end and will win on roll races. The K5 is also underrated. The fusion is AWD, heavier and has a 6 speed. The DSG in the K5 is going to make night and day difference in the top end. The K5 is lighter, has a better transmission, and does lose power on a roll like the fusion does. The K5 traps 106. The fusion traps 102. The K5 is a hefty 2.5. Trust me dig races will go to fusion, roll and top end will go to K5
Sam on the accord traction control needs to be disabled fully. Because at @2:46 u can hear it turn back on. On Dan Villa TH-cam page he has a video on how to disable it completely
I've owned these two cars fusion, than accord 2.0, tuned them both. AWD is a huge advantage for the fusion for dig races. They are surprisingly close in acceleration.
Where is the tuned Sport?! I hope you guys had some Hemis to run with the tuned Fusion. Word on the street is that you guys put it up against a V6 Charger, which I find hilarious.
I would love to see some times.... What are the 0 to 60 times what are the quarter mile times what are the acceleration times you don't put any of that in here...
This would have been better with the tlx type s, the major factor was the awd, if they were both 2wd it would have been a better race. still great to see even though the accord lost lol keep up the great work Sam!
@samcarlegion bro you have to fix the stats… base 4 cyl fwd non turbo fusion weighs 3600lbs. The sport in the video is 401a fully loaded v6tt sunroof and awd is 4100lbs
Lmao 😂😂😂 reminds me of yesterday. Someone in a civic tried to race my mkz 3.0 awd andi barely gassed it. And he had it barried. He was trying so hard and i wasnt even giving a shit. And then he tried to floor again when i let off as if he was going to beat me. Lol. Dude doesnt even realize i dont even have it sport mode 😂😂😂😂.
Do y'all even boost launch? Or do you just red light foot off brake and go? You'll get better results if you spool that turbo or in the Ford's case, twin turbos before launch.
I have the Ford Fusion Sport....the lawyers saw to it that any brake torque boosting you do gets squashed by the electronic nannies, and it cuts power around 2300 RPM. You CAN time it though, but a pain in the ass to do so.
Sam I recommend you put the 2021 Mazda3 Sedan turbo against both of those cars including the 2021 Subaru WRX. That would give them a good run for the money.
Lol there’s no way a stock accord would ever stand a chance against the 2.7 v6 in the fusion. I love my accord but 2 more cylinders, more displacement and one more turbo does wonders in the top end. The 2.7 F150s run 13s and 5 second 0-60s with just a flash tune.
I don't even consider the Accord 2.0 a performance variant. It simply is a surprisingly quick car. Kind of like a 2018 Buick Lacrosse. The Ford Fusion Sport I would consider a performance car, not just a sleeper.
@@bmshaven I don’t even consider a fusion a performance car lol. It’s a family sedan with a small v6 engine. It makes good power but there’s more to a performance car than horsepower. An RS3 for example is a performance car. Not a fusion
@@zacharycropper5532 I agree but the fusion sport is aimed at performance and is certainly a performance trim, while the Accord is just a suprisingly peppy fwd car that is very overrated.
@@bmshaven I wouldn’t call it overrated. Has essentially the same engine as the type r lol. If it was labeled as a performance sedan sure you could call it overrated, but it’s not. It’s a family sedan with a solid 2.0T that does it’s job well and is quick. I love my 2.0, never considered it to be overrated because I have realistic expectations.
@@Tsand4 Yep and the 3681 lbs they have listed here (they listed this same weight the last time when running that Ecoboost Mustang) is basically for a bare bones FWD 4 cylinder Fusion. 400-500 lbs difference is a big damn difference. So the real difference between these two cars is more like 700 lbs in all reality.
Accord weighs 3,428 if it's the touring model. Good runs tho. The Accord has about 4-500lbs advantage but not enough to make up for the 💯+ ft lbs of torque & 75 hp more in the Ford's V6 & AWD vs Accord's 4 banger 2.0t & FWD... 🤷🏻
I've beaten both with my 2017 fusion sport......only loose by a length against the red sport....... actually took the red sport off the line but he caught up......the 3.7 and 3.0t only have 286lbs torque to my 380...... I also beat 5.7 RT chargers and challengers...... mustangs with the 4.6.....only loose by couple lengths to scat packs but I also take them off the line....
Definitely would have a chance from a roll at least if it was the sport model instead of the touring and the driver knew how to launch and shift correctly. With stock parts and a tune it would be a completely different race
I always doubted the numbers on the Accord and Fusion. On paper the Accord has been said to be the same speed and sometimes faster. I drive a Fusion SE model and I overtake people with a tiny engine. Ain't no way the Accord sport can even touch a Fusion Sport. Man I wish ford bring this car back.
To be fair, even though this Accord would smoke a Camry, Honda never intended for the Accord 2.0 to be winning all races. Otherwise, this car would've been called the Accord SI or Accord Type R. Similar to how a Camry XSE is not called the "Camry TRD line", the Accord Sport is not even called "SI line" or "Type R line". You're comparing something never meant to be performance against something that is meant to be performance. Meanwhile, Fusion Sport was meant to be performance because this was during a time when Ford had a different leadership than Ford today. Back then, they intended Sport to be the performance because the previous management, unlike today's Ford management, thought that calling it "ST" would be out of place. The reason why today, Fords that would've been called Sport are now called ST and they now use "Sport" for either a looks package or a smaller version of a car is because Ford has new management. For example, the Edge ST that came out in 2019 was just a rebranding of the Edge Sport because the 2019 Edge ST is mechanically the same as the 2018 Edge Sport. The Accord is great for what Honda intended, and the Fusion was great for what Ford's previous management intended.
The Fusion Sport was never meant to be a performance car. The Ford Performance division never touched it. When this vehicle came out, there were Focus STs, Focus RS, Fiesta STs, GT350, etc. Those were molded by Ford Performance: brakes, suspension, tires etc. The Fusion Sport literally has the 2.7 and a transmission that’s able to handle it and that’s it. Just like the Accord.
I don’t think the Honda 2.0T is a standout in a market full of 2.0L turbo engines as most of them are within a few hp of each other. Standouts would be the Volvo T6 2.0L in their Polestar cars a few years ago with ~360 hp or the Mercedes AMG 2.0L at ~380 hp.
@@ghostwrench2292 Well you could have also mentioned that the 2.0L from the Volvo is *both* turbocharged and supercharged. The Accord 2.0T is only turbocharged but makes 273 lb-ft before 2000 rpm and does it all on regular gas. For it's target demographic, it's a standout imho
@Wyatt Skinner a tuned and modded fusion would gap the accord even more than what your car already did. I'm sure if you ran your car with your tune, it would have been a much wider gap.
I wonder why they didn’t do a fusion 2.0 against a Honda accord 2.0 that makes sense and it matches up. Instead you put a V6 against a 4 banger. I own a fusion 2.0 platinum model and it still has a lot of get up and go. Having gone against an accord 2.0 myself I’ve come out on top. This was just a very off ended example
I didn’t even know that this Fusion was ever made. I think it’s cool, but I’ve never read an article about it, seen a commercial about one, or noticed one on the roads. Feels like Ford could have marketed it better.
I have a 19 sport and These SS Camaros, 5.0 Mustangs, And scats always are like damn what you got in there!!!!! I get em all at the start but man a 60 roll they got me all day long! But love my fusion! I wanna tune it and add a new inner cooler and Air intake.
I paid 29k cad for my 2018 fusion sport brand new. Honda never went lower than 34k cad and I went to 6 dealers. Liked the accord but not for the money they were asking. But in 2018 it was the first year of new model might be why.
Try a 6 speed standard. The automatic sucks. And are you completely disabling the traction control module too??? I bet not. Hold brake pedal hit the traction control hold for a second release and hit the button again and hold for a second then release. Next release the brake pedal put on the ebrake and press the traction control button hold for a second release then press and hold for a second and release. Now keep the ebrake on and put your foot on the brake pedal and press and hold the button and release then press it again and hold for a second then release. Now the traction control should be completely turned off. That makes a huge difference with hard starts.
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I love how he blamed the Accord for shifting itself but you can clearly hear him clicking the shifts himself
Hondas have a thing where when u shift the paddles they still go in auto and shift themselves.
Well in Normal mode at least. Not sure why it still went auto in sport mode. Probably he didn't put in sport
@@NicotineRosberg tbh I dont think it went auto at all in this situation. You can hear him click the paddle for each gear shift he made when he said that. Including when he kicked up a gear because he had shifted too many times
@@NicotineRosberg he seems to make silly excuses for obvious driver error like this all the time in his videos.
Right lmao
lmao i agree on this, just doesn’t want to admit he messed up
The fusion has always been a rocket with any of the v6 options; it's underrated, in my opinion.
there is only 1 v6 option on a fusion maybe u meant turbo
@@NadixGamer In the first generation there were two, the 3.0 and 3.5, both NA.
@@stein5763 ahh yes gen my bad
Most American v6 sedans are some highway missiles
Imagine how fast Fusion could be if it had a 10-speed transmission
I know right!
Not really. Less gears mean less braking points and less shifting through gears which saves time. 10 speeds are meant for fuel economy and highway cruising not speed. If more gears meant going faster F1 cars or dragstar would have had 20 gears.
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 There is some truth in this. But after all, a large number of gears also contributes to faster acceleration, because each subsequent gear is already at the peak of power and it is easier for the engine to spin it up to the next one
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 huh? Are you okay? 🤣
What about a 20 speed?
Couldn’t believe the specs when that fusion first came out .. definitely something you wouldn’t expect from a fusion .. hate that they discontinued it .
Run it against a Taurus SHO
I ran mine against one at like 5 lights in a row. If you brake boost it, it launches way harder than the sho. But by about the top of 3rd, he started pulling and passed me.
@@17calispecial I could see that ofc it’s quicker but looking at the specs and weight I wouldn’t think it’s by much
The taurus sho is very fast
@@kingsports0961 I walked all over one in a v6 accord.
@@Mike-lt6sj you've got a video ?
Let’s get this straight. Almost 100hp ahead, bigger engine by .7L, AWD system. What chance did the Accord stand in this race?
Fusion is alot heavier. I bet you didn't factor that in either did you?? I like both brands BTW
The weight difference. His spec was wrong. The sport in this video is 401a package and 4100lbs. Accord is 3300. 800lbs difference.
@@codylentz573 Still a predictable outcome. That amount of weight wouldn't change 380 trq and AWD.
@@fatboyhtownholitdown8932 I bet you didn't factor in that because of the 100hp the ford still has a better power to weight ratio along with the AWD did you?? 11.33 lbs/hp vs 13.09 lbs/hp is a significant advantage. So like he said, "Almost 100hp ahead, bigger engine by .7L, AWD system. What chance did the Accord stand in this race?"
I agree, this was fun to watch as always but after seeing it in the last race, not that surprising.
He messed up on the shifting on the second race 😂
Really doesn't matter. Would of lost regardless.
The crickets are back at the finish! Sam these summer videos are great for these cold winter days!
The eco boost in that car is a sleeper. Good race because the Accord 2.0 is no slouch.
2006-2012 ford fusions are very reliable
The Accord 2.0T does pretty well; could probably be a hair faster as a 2.0T Sport which is a bit lighter than the Touring version. That said, you should try to sync up this same Fusion and the TLX Type S.
MKZ 3.0 AWD would be a closer, more interesting race against the TLX Type S. I would LOVE to see the Ford Fusion Sport go up against the Taurus SHO.
A type s is 50k lol,lets keep it in the same realm of power and price,the type s would get smoked by a ford sports car in the 50k range
@@elic5355 it's 50k because of the luxury interior not the engine bay.
@@dakotawoodruff2622 😑its a 3.0 twin turbo,acura is not mercedes,they have a lot of performance parts,transmission ect,its not the vinyl leather trust me.
@@elic5355 no but the other Gentleman is correct. Your right it's not a Mercedes but it does have a double wishbone suspension in the front. The SH-AWD system is a pretty penny aswell. The Acura is a proven dependable vehicle. Ford has a bad track record with that. That said I'm extremely disappointed in Acura for not going the extra mile and if the Fusion beat it its embarrassing. But it would def b close
Awesome content Sam!! From a dig that was expected most impressive I think is the Accord 2.0T on a roll 🔥🔥
Capable of 4.99 sec 0-60, the Fusion sport will always be the quickest accelerating midsized sedan. I've been waiting for this...
Twin turbos make all the difference
@Water Jogger the m5 would eat the fusion for Breakfast easy
@Water Jogger the model 3 would murder it
@Water Jogger the new m5 beats the hellcat
I prefer my 3.0tt Lincoln MKZ. Pretty much a luxury Fusion with a 3.0 and slightly bigger turbos. I love it as people think that it is slow.
DAMN !! as a honda guy... this ford is pretty quick seriously goshh
v6 turbo vs 4 cylinder turbo ! of course , plus awd helps the fusion in acceleration
@@alexion7160 excuses excuses 😅😅😂😊
300 hp vs 250 hp. C’mon bruh… 🤦♂️😂
@@glistud8178 Try racing your grandma’s 4cyl automatic station wagon against V6 mustang 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@franchisefred4066 th-cam.com/video/wAkiAn9hVhU/w-d-xo.html. that's a 100HP diff and still a win.
Waiting for the 1.5T vs 1.6T sonata Sam ( very good video again thank you 🙏 🤩🤩)
Ford Fusion always seemed to be a great value. For many years the Accord and the Fusion were the only two sedans I would consider.
Over a good old trusty camry?
@@flip90925 Haha, yep!
@@flip90925 yeah , the camry isnt much much more reliable than the accord. Accord is faster, better looking and more comfortable. Camry reliability 10/10 , accord reliability 9.5/10 , but accord is better in everything else. Accord is quieter , more comfrotable , more refined and has a better suspension set up . With all that being said , i wouldn't blame anyone for going for a camry , i love the camrys 3.5L V6 , its silky smooth .
*Fusion Sport, Ford did a shit job marketing it
@@alexion7160 I had the 2019 Camry xse v4 and for sure the Camry has a better ride quality I just bought the accord special edition 1.5t 2022 and man can you feel the bumps much more
On the accord that is something I don’t like and Camry is definitely much better at that overall I still would choose the accord again because Toyota has a very old setup inside the dash is all analog and feels old so this time I tried Honda Accord and everything is good expect the what I mentioned so far
Hello brother, great video. Keep them coming. I really want to see you compare the V6 Mustang to the competition. Hardly anyone compares that car, so I would love to see how it performs and thank you.
Love the Ford Fusion sport content 👏
I loved my 2018 Fusion Sport! Definitely a sleeper car. Recently traded it in for a 2022 Kia Stinger GT2
I'd love to see a Sonata 2.5T or a Kia K5 GT against this Ford Fusion or even a GLI DSG would be a very interesting race.the accord did fairly well against the bigger V6 Turbo powered Fusion
And I'd Like To See The Fusion Up
Against The Pontiac G8. 🤔
I own a Sonata N-Line and a Fusion Sport, fusion gets it from the dig all day, but from a roll, they’re dead even to 100mph, then the sonata pulls ahead just slightly
@@addisonlessing8709 I have an Edge sport which is the Fusions stablemate (same motor and all) & from a roll it’s like the factory tune is very restrictive the first 3-4 seconds of building boost which is crucial in a roll race. Funny thing is a tune & other upgrades does little to mitigate this. Definitely not turbo lag either btw
The Fusion would slaughter them all from a dig. The Stinger is a better match, but stock for stock, the Stinger has the edge. The k5 is no contest.
@@addisonlessing8709
Really 🤔
I'm EMPRESSED 😎
I didn't know they were fast
Oh man, the normally quick Accord 2.0 got destroyed by this. The Fusion just disappears. What a hot rod sleeper sedan that Fusion is.
It sure is a sleeper! 😁
It costed more than the accord new tho , especially the sport with the 2.7tt v6 . The accord 2.0T touring is same price the the fusion 2.0T titanium. The fusion was cool becuz for 3-4k more than its competition you get a way faster dad car . Problem is if your buying a family sedan , theirs a lot better options , but i guess if your priority is speed when getting a family sedan , knock yourself out
@@alexion7160 Actually one of Fusion Sport versions did cost about the same as the Accord Touring and because they were not selling all that well it was possible to get it significantly less. I know because I strongly considered it at the time but unfortunately did not end up pulling the trigger. By the time I was ready the car disappeared off lots like a fart in the wind. Just my luck...
The Accord is the better car and it's not even close.
@@alexion7160 what lack of options do you speak of. My fusion sport has lane keep/auto cruise/auto parking/awd/great sound system/carplay/moonroof/heated and cooled seats/park sensors/remote start on key fob and Ford app)/auto high beams...and it looks amazing in silver...what options is it missing again?
Keep the accord videos coming!
K-5 GT versus the fusion that would be a good race
Had a 2008 2.3 fusion was very quick sprint left anything on the Road....I have the 2012 2.5 fusion SE not too fast but I want to know if it can relearn to be aggressive on the road?
Can you do a Ford Fusion Sport vs Kia Stinger GT video?
2011 Fusion sport with 187k mile still going strong. Ford should bring back fusion and focus. Great video 👍✌️
Smh, they will one day, I'm sure
Lmaoo no they shouldn’t
@@JDMSwervo2001 how come
@@anaccount7923 because no one’s gonna buy them
@@JDMSwervo2001 you’re incorrect on that🤣 if ford brought back the focus st/rs and the fusion sport? They’d sell insanely well
I love the starting music. What album is that.
When a sleeper accord gets destroyed by an even more sleeper grandma grocery getter
2.7 twin turbo with awd is a grandma car?? How do you figure? I like the way the fusion looks over the accord.
@@justsomeguy697 I do have the 2019 Fusion Sport and it does look like a grandma grocery getter car lol 😂
Also, I love the faces of drivers at the stop lights on the right lane trying to merge onto the middle lane when they couldn’t catch up or beat me to cut me off too 😂
I keep mine stocks 100% so it looks and sounds like a 180hp Fusion since I took of the “Sport” badge but kept the “Ford” & “Fusion”. I had it tuned to 93 so I might be pushing a little more than stock for sure.
There's fusion sports pushing over 500 hp... Ford just didn't know how to build this car properly.
My 0-60 is 4.66 with stock turbos and only a tune and bolt ons. Can easily get it under 3 seconds with turbos and injectors/ pump.
@thorsonofodin3210 that's what my conworkers called it and me trying to explain it's no ordinary car
Can you please run the tlx type s against the fusion sport I think it would be very close considering they both were close with the accord in the rolls
The accord is a fast car.. against a Camry 😅😢😂
It’s fast against other cars too just look up more races in this channel they are surprising sometimes
The fusion sport is not in the same class as the accord 2.0t . His prices are wrong . When new the sport costed 5-6k more. The ford fusion titanium competes against the honda accord touring. Both have 2.0T and same price but the accord beats it .
@@alexion7160 fusion smoked it 😅😅😅😅
Sam, another interesting race. When I saw the weight to power ratio, I could have guessed at the outcome of the race. Honda really needs to up the horsepower of the Accord before including AWD in the Accord.
Why, the Accord isn't a race car, it's a family vehicle, at least that's what it's geared toward. Why wasn't the Civic Type R in on this race. That's what you buy if you want more power and handling.
@@Theyralltakenfu yeah never understood this lol. Not to mention the k20c4 is underrated from the factory. They dyno regularly in the 240s which has it around 280ish to the crank, 30hp more than what Honda rates it at. It’s plenty for a daily sedan. If you want more power just type r turbo swap and tune and you’ll be 350+whp all day long. But they aren’t race cars, just really solid daily’s that are kinda quick.
@@zacharycropper5532 👍
You said the ford was rwd at the beginning but then you said awd helps when he was pulling away lol
Lol i was going to say the same too...sounds like he got confused
@@alexl.102 lmao yea definitely
Yea in his first fusion sport video he even said he was had forgotten about fusion sport and eluded to the fact he was not familiar.
Fusions are built on a FWD platform. The sports have a FWD biased AWD system.
From a roll is going to be when FWD, AWD, RWD won’t matter unless you are dealing with extremely high horsepower applications or weather
@@TeeWadeG we know lol
@@TeeWadeG we weren’t talking about from a roll anyways
Awd 325 hp vs fwd 252 hp. No surprises here
The Accord beat many more powerful cars... It also runs a Civic Type R pretty close. So this is a pretty relevant race.
@@CanadianMax you're absolutely correct.
Why not put the V6 Fusion against the V6 Accord?
Loving this. Let’s see that tuned fusion vs stock coyote.
Hey Sam! We are waiting for that civic race. Long time no videos
Stinger GT 3.3 VS Fusion Sport
Can u do the RDX vs the Accord??
Sam i love your Channel and the videos and i mean this in the nicest way possible but damm how are you so bad at manual shifting 😂 it’s a common theme hahaha much respect tho dawg
Infinity q50 with 3.0t engine will be greater competitor to fusion sport. Both are v6 turbocharged and awd.
can you do Nissan 2.0t vs Accord 2.0t Samcar legion
Can you do Camaro 2.0 vs Accord 2.0?
I drive a 15 fusion ecoboost and love it! I wish I would have gotten the Sport! Would be so cool if Ford brought back the fusion sport with like 380hp and 400TQ.
It's called an MKZ
@@bmshaven or Lincoln Continental but thats more like a Taurus lol. Them lincolns have bad/slow trannys tho.
I wanna see a 5.0 vs the ford fusion awd off the dig
Would love to see a Ford Fusion Sport vs Kia K5 GT.
I wanna see this
Kia gone win
@@trelltheguy nah it won’t. Kia won’t have the top end to hang with the fusion. Displacement, 2 more cylinders, power advantage and one more turbo. All play a huge role in top end because of fueling and efficiency of the turbo/s
@@zacharycropper5532 no. The K5 will have the better top end and will win on roll races. The K5 is also underrated. The fusion is AWD, heavier and has a 6 speed. The DSG in the K5 is going to make night and day difference in the top end. The K5 is lighter, has a better transmission, and does lose power on a roll like the fusion does. The K5 traps 106. The fusion traps 102. The K5 is a hefty 2.5. Trust me dig races will go to fusion, roll and top end will go to K5
@@glistud8178 guess there’s only one way to find out haha
Sam on the accord traction control needs to be disabled fully. Because at @2:46 u can hear it turn back on. On Dan Villa TH-cam page he has a video on how to disable it completely
WELL !! it is an small v6 so yeah it does rev very fast... plus the turbo on top... nice
Were this videos shoot during summer cause it ain’t no way look like ontario now.
haha
I've owned these two cars fusion, than accord 2.0, tuned them both. AWD is a huge advantage for the fusion for dig races. They are surprisingly close in acceleration.
Actually closer than I thought! That Accord is quick, But I knew the fusion sport was gonna take it.
Would love to see the Accord with k-tuner to make it closer matched
Should of ran the 2.0 Fusion ecoboost. Would of been a fair fight. The Fusion sport is a beast.
They're both fantastic cars, you get the accord for better efficiency, and the fusion for the awd and power.
Where is the tuned Sport?! I hope you guys had some Hemis to run with the tuned Fusion. Word on the street is that you guys put it up against a V6 Charger, which I find hilarious.
Tuned sports eat v8s all day. Wtf would you put it against a v6?
@@shamoo9473 Right? It just goes to show the sleeper status of the Sport when a car channel doesn't even know what to match it up with.
When you want to use the paddle shifters in Sport mode you have to put it into that mode before you even leave the line.
I would love to see some times.... What are the 0 to 60 times what are the quarter mile times what are the acceleration times you don't put any of that in here...
1:40. So now the fusion is a RWD? 🧐
Awd
Ford fusion sport vs Kia stinger gt??
This would have been better with the tlx type s, the major factor was the awd, if they were both 2wd it would have been a better race. still great to see even though the accord lost lol keep up the great work Sam!
That car is almost $30000 more than the fusion sport…
@@TheKasai23 lmfao no
@@whathesaytho4818 you’re laughing because it’s true. Go cry about it.
@@TheKasai23 yeah bro that number is soo off I’m disappointed in you thinking that’s true 🤡🤣
@@TheKasai23 how is this related to growing up I just know you’re a grown ass man typing this 🤣
@samcarlegion bro you have to fix the stats… base 4 cyl fwd non turbo fusion weighs 3600lbs. The sport in the video is 401a fully loaded v6tt sunroof and awd is 4100lbs
Yup!
Lmao 😂😂😂 reminds me of yesterday. Someone in a civic tried to race my mkz 3.0 awd andi barely gassed it. And he had it barried. He was trying so hard and i wasnt even giving a shit. And then he tried to floor again when i let off as if he was going to beat me. Lol. Dude doesnt even realize i dont even have it sport mode 😂😂😂😂.
Do y'all even boost launch? Or do you just red light foot off brake and go? You'll get better results if you spool that turbo or in the Ford's case, twin turbos before launch.
I have the Ford Fusion Sport....the lawyers saw to it that any brake torque boosting you do gets squashed by the electronic nannies, and it cuts power around 2300 RPM. You CAN time it though, but a pain in the ass to do so.
Can you do the Ford fusion vs the N
Sam I recommend you put the 2021 Mazda3 Sedan turbo against both of those cars including the 2021 Subaru WRX. That would give them a good run for the money.
Why not race a cruise ship against a horse and buggy.
Lol there’s no way a stock accord would ever stand a chance against the 2.7 v6 in the fusion. I love my accord but 2 more cylinders, more displacement and one more turbo does wonders in the top end.
The 2.7 F150s run 13s and 5 second 0-60s with just a flash tune.
I don't even consider the Accord 2.0 a performance variant. It simply is a surprisingly quick car. Kind of like a 2018 Buick Lacrosse. The Ford Fusion Sport I would consider a performance car, not just a sleeper.
@@bmshaven I don’t even consider a fusion a performance car lol. It’s a family sedan with a small v6 engine. It makes good power but there’s more to a performance car than horsepower. An RS3 for example is a performance car. Not a fusion
@@zacharycropper5532 I agree but the fusion sport is aimed at performance and is certainly a performance trim, while the Accord is just a suprisingly peppy fwd car that is very overrated.
@@bmshaven I wouldn’t call it overrated. Has essentially the same engine as the type r lol. If it was labeled as a performance sedan sure you could call it overrated, but it’s not. It’s a family sedan with a solid 2.0T that does it’s job well and is quick. I love my 2.0, never considered it to be overrated because I have realistic expectations.
Proud 2 own Fusion!
Polymerization 😎
You meant awd that first time lol
Great runs, but again the weight of the FS is more like 4000 lbs or so instead of 3700 lbs. Which of course makes it even more impressive
Yup mine weighs over 4200 with me in it
@@issuh_sport1208 Exactly. My MKZ 3.0t AWD with all the options and pano roof was 4400 lbs without me in it....talk about a pig lol.
Yea Car and driver weighs every car they tested. I just checked FS weighed 4138.
@@Tsand4 Yep and the 3681 lbs they have listed here (they listed this same weight the last time when running that Ecoboost Mustang) is basically for a bare bones FWD 4 cylinder Fusion. 400-500 lbs difference is a big damn difference. So the real difference between these two cars is more like 700 lbs in all reality.
@@RC-jg2fz yea people don’t understand manufacturers only list the BASE curb weights for each vehicle. They don’t have to add options etc.
Accord weighs 3,428 if it's the touring model. Good runs tho. The Accord has about 4-500lbs advantage but not enough to make up for the 💯+ ft lbs of torque & 75 hp more in the Ford's V6 & AWD vs Accord's 4 banger 2.0t & FWD... 🤷🏻
That's a lot of weight for only a 75hp advantage so not bad for the fusion
I'd like to see the Fusion Sport against the Q50S 3.7 or 3.0t if that's not available.
That would definitely be more of a challenge. Q50S would probably take it on a roll.
A buddy of mine has the 3.7 Q50 and I must admit, it’s quick
I've beaten both with my 2017 fusion sport......only loose by a length against the red sport....... actually took the red sport off the line but he caught up......the 3.7 and 3.0t only have 286lbs torque to my 380...... I also beat 5.7 RT chargers and challengers...... mustangs with the 4.6.....only loose by couple lengths to scat packs but I also take them off the line....
I'd like to know why you didn't do a 2.0 accord vs a 2.0 fusion
Fusion weighs way more🤷🏽♂️
I’m surprised by the roll race. Thought the accord would be able to creep away.
No offense
As soon as I saw him in accord , I knew the results 😂
New Sheriff in town....att from Acura guy
Definitely would have a chance from a roll at least if it was the sport model instead of the touring and the driver knew how to launch and shift correctly.
With stock parts and a tune it would be a completely different race
The fusion sport comes to life with just a tune. They fall flat on their face on stock tune
You had the Accords specs wrong, that Type R badge gives it at least 80 extra HPs
Hahaah
I always doubted the numbers on the Accord and Fusion. On paper the Accord has been said to be the same speed and sometimes faster. I drive a Fusion SE model and I overtake people with a tiny engine. Ain't no way the Accord sport can even touch a Fusion Sport. Man I wish ford bring this car back.
To be fair, even though this Accord would smoke a Camry, Honda never intended for the Accord 2.0 to be winning all races. Otherwise, this car would've been called the Accord SI or Accord Type R. Similar to how a Camry XSE is not called the "Camry TRD line", the Accord Sport is not even called "SI line" or "Type R line". You're comparing something never meant to be performance against something that is meant to be performance. Meanwhile, Fusion Sport was meant to be performance because this was during a time when Ford had a different leadership than Ford today. Back then, they intended Sport to be the performance because the previous management, unlike today's Ford management, thought that calling it "ST" would be out of place. The reason why today, Fords that would've been called Sport are now called ST and they now use "Sport" for either a looks package or a smaller version of a car is because Ford has new management. For example, the Edge ST that came out in 2019 was just a rebranding of the Edge Sport because the 2019 Edge ST is mechanically the same as the 2018 Edge Sport. The Accord is great for what Honda intended, and the Fusion was great for what Ford's previous management intended.
The Fusion Sport was never meant to be a performance car. The Ford Performance division never touched it. When this vehicle came out, there were Focus STs, Focus RS, Fiesta STs, GT350, etc. Those were molded by Ford Performance: brakes, suspension, tires etc. The Fusion Sport literally has the 2.7 and a transmission that’s able to handle it and that’s it. Just like the Accord.
Lincoln MKZ 3.0TT vs Ford SHO por favor!
And this was stock vs stock? Off the shelf right?
Yep
Not again Sam! You are gonna get all the Honda army on your back😂
Hahaha
Love my accord !!! You have to admit the 2.0t stock is an amazing engine! But good run with the fusion as well!! ✌️
I don’t think the Honda 2.0T is a standout in a market full of 2.0L turbo engines as most of them are within a few hp of each other. Standouts would be the Volvo T6 2.0L in their Polestar cars a few years ago with ~360 hp or the Mercedes AMG 2.0L at ~380 hp.
@@ghostwrench2292
Well you could have also mentioned that the 2.0L from the Volvo is *both* turbocharged and supercharged.
The Accord 2.0T is only turbocharged but makes 273 lb-ft before 2000 rpm and does it all on regular gas.
For it's target demographic, it's a standout imho
What year is that fusion model?
2017
Nice Video Sam, Fusion Sounds Moded, what kind of Mods are we talking.
All I have in the car is a BOV, she's bone stock rest is just cosmetic, she has about 133,000km too still runs like a dream
@Wyatt Skinner a tuned and modded fusion would gap the accord even more than what your car already did. I'm sure if you ran your car with your tune, it would have been a much wider gap.
Fusion Sport is AWD, FWD chassis. Not RWD :)
I wonder why they didn’t do a fusion 2.0 against a Honda accord 2.0 that makes sense and it matches up. Instead you put a V6 against a 4 banger. I own a fusion 2.0 platinum model and it still has a lot of get up and go. Having gone against an accord 2.0 myself I’ve come out on top. This was just a very off ended example
Still waiting for the Kia Stinger GT vs Ford Fusion sport video. Much closer on the specs.
Singer is $10k more throw that into a tune, fmic, upgrade fuel system and bye bye stinger
I didn’t even know that this Fusion was ever made. I think it’s cool, but I’ve never read an article about it, seen a commercial about one, or noticed one on the roads. Feels like Ford could have marketed it better.
I have a 19 sport and These SS Camaros, 5.0 Mustangs, And scats always are like damn what you got in there!!!!! I get em all at the start but man a 60 roll they got me all day long! But love my fusion! I wanna tune it and add a new inner cooler and Air intake.
I got a 5.0 mustang and fusion 2.5 as a daily and really want to trade it in for a fusion sport to have the ultimate sleeper for daily driving
I’ve always like the Fusion and I think the Fusion sport was a good value when it was available, great car.
It costed more than the accord new tho , espeically the sport with the 2.7tt v6 . The accord 2.0T touring is same price the the fusion 2.0T titanium.
@@alexion7160 true
@@alexion7160 it’s higher quality, has a tt v6, with awd lol, of course it’s more. Not to mention it destroys it in a straight line
I paid 29k cad for my 2018 fusion sport brand new. Honda never went lower than 34k cad and I went to 6 dealers. Liked the accord but not for the money they were asking. But in 2018 it was the first year of new model might be why.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ lmao higher quality are you out of your mind
Try a 6 speed standard. The automatic sucks. And are you completely disabling the traction control module too??? I bet not. Hold brake pedal hit the traction control hold for a second release and hit the button again and hold for a second then release. Next release the brake pedal put on the ebrake and press the traction control button hold for a second release then press and hold for a second and release. Now keep the ebrake on and put your foot on the brake pedal and press and hold the button and release then press it again and hold for a second then release. Now the traction control should be completely turned off. That makes a huge difference with hard starts.
Why are you comparing a car that no long is being made?
That was a good race.
Fusion sport vs sonata n line/K5 GT would be VERY interesting. I consider the n line sonata/ K5 GT the spiritual successor to the Ford Fusion sport
I wanna see the Sonata N vs the Fusion Sport
Do a world drag race please
Love me fs puts down over 400 to wheels with a tune and bolt ons
I’ve never seen this guy win a race
Ford Fusion sport vs k5 GT/n line?
Yep
As a bonus, Ford left a lot on the table for tuning that 2.7 Ecoboost.
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It's 2.0t vs 2.7 v6 twin turbo not a fair comparison accord still a beast for a 4cyl sedan.