Hey everyone! I hope you are having a great Saturday. Thanks for stopping by to watch this one. Let me know what you think about the cat-back exhaust that has been added to this Toyota GR86.
Hey Joe and Lori, I hope you guys are doing great and enjoying the sunshine. Off topic here Joe. I wanted to ask you a question regarding the s650 mustang steering feel. Is the steering feel same or better than the s550 regarding weight in each of the mode. Thanks
The thing you didn’t mention is that this car is basically less than 3 years old and you’re driving a used one. Seems like many people are deciding to get out of the 86 after a relatively short ownership stint for whatever reason.
It's FARRRRRR too underpowered. The torque alone can't break the tires so drivers 'assume' they are driving like a pro 😂 but it's just that you aren't actually driving 'hard' & ANY car feels controllable if it is underpowered 😂
What a fantastic little car. As Camaro Owner and a car enthusiast I love a lower horsepower car that is just a blast to drive. Like you said it teaches you how to drive. Great video and man that Toyota is awesome
So, I just got the exact same car, except with an automatic transmission. 859 miles in, and I’m in love. No, not many drag races will be won, but the cars a blast to drive, and in my opinion, more than fast enough for me and the driving I’m typically doing. Enjoyed the review, glad you liked the car.
Forza Horizon 5 just got the car. It’s so much fun to drive in the game. As someone with a disability it would be very hard for me to drive a real car without access to hand controls. I do most of my driving as realistically as possible in the virtual space . That being said, I know there are reports of shall we say big-time issues with the new GR 86 no idea if they have ever been resolved . Great looking sports car!! Over the old Scion FRS branded one here in the U.S.
I had a 2016 FRS Release Series 2.0 and I loved the car. I was kinda sad when I sold it but I bought the 10th anniversary GR86 and it brought back the good memories plus that extra hp just made it a better car. I did notice the steering was a little better with the 2016 but everything else is better imo. I wish they had added the big brake kit but the Trueno has it now. It's my last mod I need!
Joe how are you gonna tease the public like this??? That cat-back on the GR86 sounds awesome!!!! Please do the public a favor. Please list the make and model of the cat-back exhaust. It's one of the best sounding 4cylinder engines and exhaust that I have heard. It sounds deep on the video and can only be better hearing it in person.
I’m 51 and had a 1985 Toyota MR2. Small, low hp and really well handling. I miss those days so much because that car was just brilliant. Currently looking at buying a new GR86 in pearl white.
Yeah, I used to own a 986 standard Boxster flat 6. It only had 217hp, but it only weighed 2,700 pounds and was quick and very tossable with great brakes and steering feel. You don't need 700 hp to have fun.
A great pocket rocket. Keep the weight down, and you don't need gobs of hp to have fun. Heavy vehicles with ridiculous amounts of hp are overkill IMO. If a credit crunch comes, say good-bye to overkill.
Yep. This whole horsepower maketh the car business is getting ridiculous. Give me a lightweight, RWD, tossable 6spd manual car with a few creature comforts, and I won't care if it only gets to 100km in 6 seconds. At least I'll get to roll through the gears and have some fun as opposed to hitting jail-time speeds halfway through 2nd gear lmao.
There is still a classic muscle car craze going on for big and small block V8s. And none of those beasts could break 6 seconds to 60 and most had hard time breaking 7 seconds. So 6 seconds is still very fast and exhilarating. Sub 3 seconds is downright painful and dangerous on many public roads.
The GR86 is a non-starter for me until the FA24 oil starvation and RTV issues are fixed. It is a disgrace that Toyota/Subaru allow this issue to continue.
@@shahrukhbakar3248 It is not okay and I dont understand why they were not monitoring oil pressure on the track when testing the engine. The rtv is poor quality but even if the screen gets partially clogged it will still flow oil. There has been studies on youtube showing on the street in the canyons oil drop was minimal/non-existent in right turns. So if you don't track the vehicle the longevity of the vehicle's engine will be fine.
Just bought a 10th Anniversary GR86 with the cat-back exhaust. One of the best cars I've ever owned, and it's got plenty - PLENTY - of power for the street and highway.
@@roddavis6327 Curious - would you want it to be 300hp if it weighed 4000 pounds? What about 1000lb..... There's more than just pure power. It feels extremely fun to drive. Because it's lightweight with that power.
@@MKu64 I am on the touge a lot with my type r. I get behind these and they ruin my run and sometimes they won’t use the pull offs. I like how it’s manual and rwd. They are not good at uphill touge though . I respect the platform, it needs the 300 hp and that’s it .
@@roddavis6327 You're comparing 2 cars and saying one's faster. But the reality is that when you drive the 23 BRZ/GR86 it doesn't feel slow at all (I'm also an owner of the current Type R). As a comparison - I prefer to drive the BRZ whenever I can - and drive the Type R whenever I have passengers. One of the reasons is that the Type R is way more comfy on the road - and when you have passengers you do honestly notice the difference in power with the BRZ. But when driving solo, although the power difference is there, it isn't a big deal of difference and the drive is more fun in the BRZ. So yes - if you have the Type R on the same track as the 23 BRZ, the Type R is absolutely faster - but the driving experience for me is better with the Twins even though the power is less than the Type R
@@MKu64 Put in the little GR Corolla 3cyl turbo charged engine and the GR86 would still be relatively light. But it wouldn't have oil starvation issues and would be quicker where it matters. These cars are so absurdly marked up anyways, that the engine upgrade would be more sensible than bad.
I’m thinking about buying this for my son. He’s 6’5” and I’m not sure if there’s enough leg room. Toyota makes a reliable and safe car, so I may pull the trigger. For what it’s worth, I did buy him a used Kia Forte when he got his license and it was reliable too. Nothing wrong with Hyundai’s if anyone is on the fence between these 2. Thank you for reviewing this Joe, it helped me a lot. I love that you have the same enthusiasm reviewing a $32k car as you do when your reviewing a $200k car. Were you able to pry Steven out of the back 😂
Got mine and before I bought it I watched your other video on this car and I loved it. I’ve had it for about less than a month but man I love it! Raven premium with tinted windows limo everywhere and windshield with 20% I mean people for sure stop and look at my car and stop me to ask questions. For sure a killer car!
9:47 That custom muffler sounds great! It reminds me of old boxer engines. I can clearly see that the fake engine sound from speakers is completely unnecessary.
Great review as always Joe. After having a first gen for 11 years I really wanted to get a new twin but I ended up going with a GRC..was a really hard decision since there's nothing like a lightweight RWD sports car!
Love the reviews. You guys always do an amazing job. Sold my A3 and looking to get a either an Elantra N or GR86. Both are great driver vehicles and look amazing. Leaning N for the added practicality and those pops but if a white 86 with a 6 speed pops up? My take it home.
Both the 86 and Elantra n are great cars. If you can live without a practical backseat I would go for the 86 myself. I used to own a s2000 and think the 86 is the closest modern equivalent. There's nothing quite like a lightweight rear engine sports car :)
@baoquoc3710 honestly I'm surprised so many people are worried by this. I'm thinking of buying one. All this tells me is the first oil change (prob 1000 miles) I will drop the oil pan and fix the issue. It's literally right there, like 10 bolts.
I bought a new 2022 special edition orange, after i saw Joe’s review. I live in Malibu and work in the San Fernando Valley. So I have to drive through the canyons. What an awesome car. I beat up that car 5 days a week and still keeps on performs like the first day I got it. I totally prefer the 6speed manual if you can drive one.
🇺🇸 *LOVE the black on black* !! *This GR86 is SUPERB* !! *Extremely good price* !! *MUCH better than any Hyundai* !! *GREAT to see REAL knobs* !! *Wonderful content Joe and Steven* !! #RaitisRides 🇺🇸
Nice car but a huge problem with the subaru engine. Since the arrival of the second-generation Subaru BRZ and Toyota GR86 in 2021, there have been reports of engine failures occurring during or after track driving. Initially it seemed this was a result of excessive gasket sealant-room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone-blocking the oil pickup tube.
I'm kinda sad you aren't reviewing the 2023 GR86 Anniversary edition!... I have one IN MANUAL! I live in Florida, I would lend it to you for a review of you want, I love your videos. 😁
This is a great car for the price. To put in perspective I have a high hp R35 GTR and Z06, among others and want this as a daily. I test drove it and was surprised by it. It was punchy, handles great, lightweight and with the 6 speed manual was a blast to drive. Great value for the money. People say its way too slow but coming from high hp sports cars I disagree. Its not a rocketship but with the hp/torque numbers and price point its not meant to be. But it's quick enough to have fun in, especially with the manual 6 speed gearbox. I'm waiting to see about the rumors of the Corolla GR engine with the turbo being put in this for the refreshed version. I'm a N/A fan but that bumps the hp and especially torque significantly and is an actual Toyota engine not Subie, and the RTV and oil starvation issues with some. Either way I'll be buying this car. I want a RWD, manual transmission, lightweight daily and this ticks all the boxes.
ya bro ur right, I also bought the gr86 because I freaking love it as a daily. Idc abt people saying HP is slow. its just soo fun to drive and its very easy for me to customize it and mod it.
Im on the fence the first thing everyone needs to do with this car is literally drop the oil pan and check for RTV that’s a giant negative in my book and keeping me from getting one
There is no turbo car that that beat the driving experience and fun factor of a naturally aspirated car. Its day and night and not comparable no matter how fast the turbo car is.
The Miata is a another example like this car when it comes to horsepower doesnt matter because the weight and driving experience. Ive always wanted a Miata or something like this. I raced dirt oval for years and I was in the 4 cylinder class. All the other classes were V8 but we were not even close to being the slowest class. We turned lap times faster then some of the bigger classes so its not all about horsepower. A little disclaimer are cars where not running stock engines thats if you wanted to be competitve but our horsepower numbers definitely were not that high because the majority of us ran modified versions of the 2.3 Ford Pinto/Mustang engine. Anyway good review as always Raiti. You and the crew take care and be safe brother.
I just got mine last week but im thinking of returning it for the GR Corolla because of the RTV issue with this car and Toyota/Subaru doing little to nothing about it
lol it's so overblown. No pun also "returning" it for a corolla isn't a clean swap. There's about a 10-15k (or more) price difference. I'd like a Corolla myself but I didn't feel like saving up anymore for it. So I opted to buy the 86 outright as I refuse to have a car payment
me and my boy manifested our cars. exactly what we both wanted i’m 20 years old. got the 2023 camaro 3lt v6 rs npp 10 auto and he got his 2023 gr86 6MT
Great review, Joe! Spot on. I own a 2017 Subaru BRZ Series.Yellow (6-speed manual transmission) as a daily driver. And all I know is that, even after 6 years, to this day, I smile every time I get behind the wheel. Who cares about horse power, torque, 0-60, etc., ... I know I don't.
I own a 2013 BRZ, and I’ve test driven the current GR86. It handles very similar to the 2013, but the power increase has made the current model so much better. Makes me want to modify mine. The big concern I have is the oil starvation found while people have been tracking the current model. I’ve also driven the Elantra N (i30 Sedan N in Australia) and it’s just a weapon. I’d probably get the i30/Elantra N if I were in the market now as it does it all well, except drift 😂
The power increase 😂, thing is still slow, I don't like hyundai but would take that over the gr86 any day. The homie girl bought one, really can't justify paying 40k out the day for a fake sports car.
Great Fun:$ ratio. Like the exhausts. I can see the attraction for those looking for a fun to drive car for a reasonable price. Personally would like to see it in a different color but maybe black is best on it.
Halo white is a beauty too, really shows off the curves of the car, but black looks fantastic too. The Neptune blue is also nice, but the striking color would probably annoy some after the novelty of it wears off, depending on how much attention one likes.
I went from an FRS into a Porsche Boxster S manual... I gotta say, the Porsche handles SO much better and really was everything I wanted to Mod my FRS to be. I personally dont think I can ever get the FRS to even compare to a Porsche reliably from my own garage.
"In case you have that one friend who does not care if he is squashed..." 😁😁 Joe, don't we ALL need a friend like that in our lives? There are so many situations where they come in handy....😆😆
Elantra N/Civic Type R won't blow up on the track like the GR86. Yes they are losing oil pressure on road courses. Hopefully they fix it. Silicone from oil pan getting sucked up into motor. You will get better fuel economy out of the Elantra N with normal driving. The GR86 is the best looking car out of those for sure.
Man, the car is super fun, and it's an RWD for its weight it handles really great, but it is lacking power for its price point specially where I live at. The gr86 goes for around 44k whereas the EN goes for 41k. I test drove both and a week after got the EN I was able to roll race against the GR86 and I felt happy with my choice 3 attempts to the roll race I was able to pull away every single time. I am looking forward to do a track day and compare the times but the only person I know of that owns one is scared of the oil starvation issues.
@vonstrong6049 So far, it has been great. Got it on Jan 2023, and so far, it has been great, especially on Canyon or Twisty Roads. I'm currently awaiting an autocross event, and I'll give it a run there to fully test it. Mine has fairly low mileage, about 3,600 but not a single issue
@@dead_freak_prgaming2290 nice I got a maxima as my daily I need a fun manual for weekends I test drive new brz it was ok and the si was sporty but felt soft I need to test drive type r n and the Elantra n or mustang gt lol
Elantra N is a better buy. It doesn't look as sporty as gr86 but the power and fun for the price is insane plus with few bolt ons and tune youll easily be pushing over 350 whp. With gr 86, it's fun rear wheel drive looks better than elantra N but the power just isn't there and you pay same price if not more, you can tune but you'll barely get 280whp
Also, Hyundai still let owners bring their cars to the track no matter how long you want to push it without voiding warranty. Toyota hastily refuses owners who attempt to do so, even worse, FA24 engines still have no permanent solution for the melting sealant problem.
WRC - the World Rally Championship - which they've won Championships with throughout the whole European area. It's the WORLD Rally Championship - they race around the WORLD. Like Mexico, Kenya, Chile, Japan, New Zealand, Argentina, Australia
Joe, is there any way for you to use your Toyota/Subaru connection to feed back that they seriously need to deal with the oil starvation issues and RTV issues? The engine issues are destroying the GR86’s image
@@John-jf8nh I somehow doubt either Toyota or Subaru will do anything about either the RTV issue or the oil pressure issue. There haven’t been enough failures and both companies aren’t doing anything about it. Plus the next generation car will have a different engine anyway. Hard pass…too bad.
Joel I’m with u I got friends saying it’s a slow car but I don’t care I drove it before just so damn fun❗️im thinking about the 86 or the new Taco or the Corolla GR 😉 as my next ride👌🏽 Toyota brining back the fun for real💪🏽
I am in korea where hyundai is located and here the elantra n is $10,000 cheaper than the gr86. It has already been proven that the Elantra N is faster than the GR86 on the track. Nevertheless, I also bought the gr86.
I've been wanting an Elantra N since it came out, but the GR86 is so tempting even if it's not turbocharged and doesn't have a crazy design. I'm fortunate to have a new '22 Hayabusa and the thing has too much engine for the road to enjoy revving it out. However, it's enjoyable in the twisties doing legal speeds. I think I'd enjoy a GR86 even if it's doesn't have a lot of power. Engine seems more than peppy enough to be enjoyable. EDIT: Gazoo Racing is the true TRD now. The TRD trims stand for Toyota Ricer Development. 😅
I had a 2021 BRZ and it was just too slow.. fun car to drive since it's light and rwd, but that's it. You get smoked by pretty much everything that's either v6 or turbo/supercharged. The car need at least 300hp to be fun for me.
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Hey everyone! I hope you are having a great Saturday. Thanks for stopping by to watch this one. Let me know what you think about the cat-back exhaust that has been added to this Toyota GR86.
Thankyou Raiti's love this Japanese sports car !!!👌
@@dheeradjlachman9658you are so very welcome!
Joe. I love it. Where can I buy that one?
Hey Joe and Lori, I hope you guys are doing great and enjoying the sunshine. Off topic here Joe. I wanted to ask you a question regarding the s650 mustang steering feel. Is the steering feel same or better than the s550 regarding weight in each of the mode. Thanks
The thing you didn’t mention is that this car is basically less than 3 years old and you’re driving a used one. Seems like many people are deciding to get out of the 86 after a relatively short ownership stint for whatever reason.
For those who enjoy driving this is a great car.
AMEN Omar!
It's FARRRRRR too underpowered. The torque alone can't break the tires so drivers 'assume' they are driving like a pro 😂 but it's just that you aren't actually driving 'hard' & ANY car feels controllable if it is underpowered 😂
@@PRESIDENT_RANDALL_MARSHhave you ever driven one?
@The_Marovengian that's what the aftermarket is for. Perhaps Toyota/Subaru will offer a 300+ hp turbocharged version in a couple years.
Great car for those who dont wanna go fast
What a fantastic little car. As Camaro Owner and a car enthusiast I love a lower horsepower car that is just a blast to drive. Like you said it teaches you how to drive. Great video and man that Toyota is awesome
My Black premium GR86 is arriving in a few weeks and this video has made me even more excited.
How is it so far....
A true driver's car looking fierce in black I'm digging it!
So, I just got the exact same car, except with an automatic transmission. 859 miles in, and I’m in love. No, not many drag races will be won, but the cars a blast to drive, and in my opinion, more than fast enough for me and the driving I’m typically doing.
Enjoyed the review, glad you liked the car.
is that a 2023 too?
My condolences for getting an automatic
I got the same! Even if people shit on the AT, idgaf I love my car
@@anhhelit’s always funny people talk down on automatic transmission but wouldn’t say a word when it’s a Ferrari or lambo💀
Getting this same car in 2 weeks AT
The GR 86 is my favorite car ever, I absolutely adore it ❤️ It's just the car I love :')
I am so glad that you are liking this one.
Forza Horizon 5 just got the car. It’s so much fun to drive in the game.
As someone with a disability it would be very hard for me to drive a real car without access to hand controls. I do most of my driving as realistically as possible in the virtual space .
That being said, I know there are reports of shall we say big-time issues with the new GR 86 no idea if they have ever been resolved .
Great looking sports car!! Over the old Scion FRS branded one here in the U.S.
That’s very cool
@@RaitisRidesnot as cool as you!!
Mad props to Steven.... that back seat is no joke😂
Not my usual type car but I can’t help like the GR86. Just looks like a fun little car. Sounds sweet
I had a 2016 FRS Release Series 2.0 and I loved the car. I was kinda sad when I sold it but I bought the 10th anniversary GR86 and it brought back the good memories plus that extra hp just made it a better car. I did notice the steering was a little better with the 2016 but everything else is better imo.
I wish they had added the big brake kit but the Trueno has it now. It's my last mod I need!
Joe how are you gonna tease the public like this??? That cat-back on the GR86 sounds awesome!!!! Please do the public a favor. Please list the make and model of the cat-back exhaust. It's one of the best sounding 4cylinder engines and exhaust that I have heard. It sounds deep on the video and can only be better hearing it in person.
I’m 51 and had a 1985 Toyota MR2. Small, low hp and really well handling. I miss those days so much because that car was just brilliant. Currently looking at buying a new GR86 in pearl white.
Love my AE. Appreciated your early reviews on it. Helped me decide to get it. Thank you.
I have a 2022 BRZ and I will say it is the greatest car I have ever owned. So much fun!!!!
Yeah, I used to own a 986 standard Boxster flat 6. It only had 217hp, but it only weighed 2,700 pounds and was quick and very tossable with great brakes and steering feel. You don't need 700 hp to have fun.
A great pocket rocket. Keep the weight down, and you don't need gobs of hp to have fun. Heavy vehicles with ridiculous amounts of hp are overkill IMO. If a credit crunch comes, say good-bye to overkill.
Yep. This whole horsepower maketh the car business is getting ridiculous. Give me a lightweight, RWD, tossable 6spd manual car with a few creature comforts, and I won't care if it only gets to 100km in 6 seconds. At least I'll get to roll through the gears and have some fun as opposed to hitting jail-time speeds halfway through 2nd gear lmao.
There is still a classic muscle car craze going on for big and small block V8s. And none of those beasts could break 6 seconds to 60 and most had hard time breaking 7 seconds. So 6 seconds is still very fast and exhilarating. Sub 3 seconds is downright painful and dangerous on many public roads.
The GR86 is a non-starter for me until the FA24 oil starvation and RTV issues are fixed. It is a disgrace that Toyota/Subaru allow this issue to continue.
Exactly, they made everything look fancier, sportier but still a shit engine build
If your not tracking its not a problem do some more research
@@tone3560 why is it ok to have known oil starvation on right hand turns and RTV clogging an oil pickup tube?
@@shahrukhbakar3248 It is not okay and I dont understand why they were not monitoring oil pressure on the track when testing the engine. The rtv is poor quality but even if the screen gets partially clogged it will still flow oil.
There has been studies on youtube showing on the street in the canyons oil drop was minimal/non-existent in right turns. So if you don't track the vehicle the longevity of the vehicle's engine will be fine.
@@tone3560 issue was fixed in the 2023 model. just never got publicly announced.
Just bought a 10th Anniversary GR86 with the cat-back exhaust. One of the best cars I've ever owned, and it's got plenty - PLENTY - of power for the street and highway.
Need 300 HP at least for me to get one .
@@roddavis6327 Curious - would you want it to be 300hp if it weighed 4000 pounds? What about 1000lb.....
There's more than just pure power. It feels extremely fun to drive. Because it's lightweight with that power.
@@MKu64 I am on the touge a lot with my type r. I get behind these and they ruin my run and sometimes they won’t use the pull offs. I like how it’s manual and rwd. They are not good at uphill touge though . I respect the platform, it needs the 300 hp and that’s it .
@@roddavis6327 You're comparing 2 cars and saying one's faster. But the reality is that when you drive the 23 BRZ/GR86 it doesn't feel slow at all (I'm also an owner of the current Type R). As a comparison - I prefer to drive the BRZ whenever I can - and drive the Type R whenever I have passengers. One of the reasons is that the Type R is way more comfy on the road - and when you have passengers you do honestly notice the difference in power with the BRZ. But when driving solo, although the power difference is there, it isn't a big deal of difference and the drive is more fun in the BRZ.
So yes - if you have the Type R on the same track as the 23 BRZ, the Type R is absolutely faster - but the driving experience for me is better with the Twins even though the power is less than the Type R
@@MKu64 Put in the little GR Corolla 3cyl turbo charged engine and the GR86 would still be relatively light. But it wouldn't have oil starvation issues and would be quicker where it matters.
These cars are so absurdly marked up anyways, that the engine upgrade would be more sensible than bad.
I’m thinking about buying this for my son. He’s 6’5” and I’m not sure if there’s enough leg room. Toyota makes a reliable and safe car, so I may pull the trigger. For what it’s worth, I did buy him a used Kia Forte when he got his license and it was reliable too. Nothing wrong with Hyundai’s if anyone is on the fence between these 2. Thank you for reviewing this Joe, it helped me a lot. I love that you have the same enthusiasm reviewing a $32k car as you do when your reviewing a $200k car. Were you able to pry Steven out of the back 😂
Got mine and before I bought it I watched your other video on this car and I loved it. I’ve had it for about less than a month but man I love it! Raven premium with tinted windows limo everywhere and windshield with 20% I mean people for sure stop and look at my car and stop me to ask questions. For sure a killer car!
9:47 That custom muffler sounds great! It reminds me of old boxer engines.
I can clearly see that the fake engine sound from speakers is completely unnecessary.
Really like the sound the catback brings, love the car but straight to some power adder action for this baby. Killer episode gents!!!
Great review as always Joe. After having a first gen for 11 years I really wanted to get a new twin but I ended up going with a GRC..was a really hard decision since there's nothing like a lightweight RWD sports car!
How's the GRC it been for you?
Love the reviews. You guys always do an amazing job.
Sold my A3 and looking to get a either an Elantra N or GR86. Both are great driver vehicles and look amazing.
Leaning N for the added practicality and those pops but if a white 86 with a 6 speed pops up? My take it home.
Oh wow that is awesome!
I sold a 17 A4 for a 23 Elantra N and couldn’t be happier
Make a decision between coupe or sedan. Be real tho the Toyota is way better looking 👀
Both the 86 and Elantra n are great cars. If you can live without a practical backseat I would go for the 86 myself. I used to own a s2000 and think the 86 is the closest modern equivalent. There's nothing quite like a lightweight rear engine sports car :)
Get the 86! As good as the N is, the 86 is sportier.
Love the Elantra N. kind of wish I got it after watching your video but I settled with the N-Line.
Oh wow!
Elantra Ns are so hard to find in my area
@@NuduxI'm thinking about selling mine... Only 3300 miles, 6 speed
I mean, the GR86 is having oil starving issue and silicon sealant melting into the oil pickup, causing insufficient oil distribution
@baoquoc3710 honestly I'm surprised so many people are worried by this. I'm thinking of buying one. All this tells me is the first oil change (prob 1000 miles) I will drop the oil pan and fix the issue. It's literally right there, like 10 bolts.
I’m gonna be buying one this year Joe! Your reviews always make me choose the right car! Thanks bro 😎
I just passed 2000 miles on mine, can't wait to drive it again. Best decision ever!
I bought a new 2022 special edition orange, after i saw Joe’s review. I live in Malibu and work in the San Fernando Valley. So I have to drive through the canyons. What an awesome car. I beat up that car 5 days a week and still keeps on performs like the first day I got it. I totally prefer the 6speed manual if you can drive one.
You are doing a fantastic job Joe 😊
Thank you for taking the time to say that!
You're the best@@RaitisRides
Wow, oil filter is in perfect place for maintenance.
Great review! I own a 2023 (steel, base, manual). All you say is 100% true. It is a brilliant car. Love every minute in it. 😎
This car is underrated
You are so very right about that!
I miss my old GT86… just sold it last year. Hope someday I’ll own one of these again
Wonder what they're doing about the oil starvation issues on this engine.
Great question
zilch...you gotta do the mods
Looks good in black !
Tell me about it Tom!
I hear the GR86 engines like to blow up. Nice.
Yeah because it's basically a Subaru. It's a good looking car and I'm sure it's fun to drive but yeah I don't wanna risk it, rather get a Civic Si
Depends if you are track racing and how frequently I guess plus not replacing oil regularly? How many have blown up off the track?
@@djomanchester With how I drive....it would blow up for m on the street.....I will stick to my reliable, manual, 98 Sentra
Raiti, you really do an amazing job man.
14:30 Loved my 13 FRS especially after adding boost, it was so fun to drive. They did a great job with the next generation model!
🇺🇸 *LOVE the black on black* !! *This GR86 is SUPERB* !! *Extremely good price* !! *MUCH better than any Hyundai* !! *GREAT to see REAL knobs* !! *Wonderful content Joe and Steven* !! #RaitisRides 🇺🇸
Now this is my perfect car for me to buy one.
I’m not getting into the backseat 😂😂😂!!
Love your content Keep it up
You got it!
PLEASE tell us what exhaust that is! that sounds soooooo good.👌
Nice car but a huge problem with the subaru engine. Since the arrival of the second-generation Subaru BRZ and Toyota GR86 in 2021, there have been reports of engine failures occurring during or after track driving. Initially it seemed this was a result of excessive gasket sealant-room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone-blocking the oil pickup tube.
Just a feature of the boxer engine
That is a sweet looking car!!
You have good taste
Just picked up a 2023 GR86 Prem in Trueno Blue last week.
I'm kinda sad you aren't reviewing the 2023 GR86 Anniversary edition!... I have one IN MANUAL! I live in Florida, I would lend it to you for a review of you want, I love your videos. 😁
This is a great car for the price. To put in perspective I have a high hp R35 GTR and Z06, among others and want this as a daily. I test drove it and was surprised by it. It was punchy, handles great, lightweight and with the 6 speed manual was a blast to drive. Great value for the money. People say its way too slow but coming from high hp sports cars I disagree. Its not a rocketship but with the hp/torque numbers and price point its not meant to be. But it's quick enough to have fun in, especially with the manual 6 speed gearbox. I'm waiting to see about the rumors of the Corolla GR engine with the turbo being put in this for the refreshed version. I'm a N/A fan but that bumps the hp and especially torque significantly and is an actual Toyota engine not Subie, and the RTV and oil starvation issues with some. Either way I'll be buying this car. I want a RWD, manual transmission, lightweight daily and this ticks all the boxes.
ya bro ur right, I also bought the gr86 because I freaking love it as a daily. Idc abt people saying HP is slow. its just soo fun to drive and its very easy for me to customize it and mod it.
I Absolutely Love Your Channel, Very Honest Review of all vehicles. Keep Up the Good Work.
Toyota just needs to put the GRC's 3-cylinder into this thing to make pop.
making the magic happen is best😂
You better believe it
if they can free some extra leg room of the backseats, this car would be perfect
Im on the fence the first thing everyone needs to do with this car is literally drop the oil pan and check for RTV that’s a giant negative in my book and keeping me from getting one
You know Joe loves the GR86 and BRZ when he's done the reviews 5 times!
Nah. It's bc there's not much else out there to review.
He loves the clicks
There is no turbo car that that beat the driving experience and fun factor of a naturally aspirated car. Its day and night and not comparable no matter how fast the turbo car is.
Especially when this car's subaru engine oil starves and blows up on the track. So much more enjoyable 💀
Joe, I’ve always wondered, how do you deal with no cops seeing you?
The Miata is a another example like this car when it comes to horsepower doesnt matter because the weight and driving experience. Ive always wanted a Miata or something like this. I raced dirt oval for years and I was in the 4 cylinder class. All the other classes were V8 but we were not even close to being the slowest class. We turned lap times faster then some of the bigger classes so its not all about horsepower. A little disclaimer are cars where not running stock engines thats if you wanted to be competitve but our horsepower numbers definitely were not that high because the majority of us ran modified versions of the 2.3 Ford Pinto/Mustang engine. Anyway good review as always Raiti. You and the crew take care and be safe brother.
I just got mine last week but im thinking of returning it for the GR Corolla because of the RTV issue with this car and Toyota/Subaru doing little to nothing about it
lol it's so overblown. No pun
also "returning" it for a corolla isn't a clean swap. There's about a 10-15k (or more) price difference. I'd like a Corolla myself but I didn't feel like saving up anymore for it. So I opted to buy the 86 outright as I refuse to have a car payment
Crazy to see Joe at 1 million subscribers. He surpassed Thottle House and Savagegeese
Makes me miss driving my manual RSX Type S and redlining it.
me and my boy manifested our cars. exactly what we both wanted i’m 20 years old. got the 2023 camaro 3lt v6 rs npp 10 auto and he got his 2023 gr86 6MT
This makes me miss my very first car. My sweet Toyota Celica. 😢
Great review, Joe! Spot on. I own a 2017 Subaru BRZ Series.Yellow (6-speed manual transmission) as a daily driver. And all I know is that, even after 6 years, to this day, I smile every time I get behind the wheel. Who cares about horse power, torque, 0-60, etc., ... I know I don't.
It's hard to beat the feel of a rear wheel drive with the handling of a Porsche. These re future classics.
Congrats on hitting a milli subs Raiti rides 🎉
Thank you Steven! We really can't do it without you!
To the answer the title: "Yes."
Awesome
I'd like to know your thoughts as to why. I like learning about different opinions
Joe, I like your ability for spotting trash on the road.
Thanks man
@RaitisRides
You are very welcome, and thank you.
question...have you ever had an accident while on throttle
You best believe I'll be delivering tofu in this while listening to eurobeats ~
I own a 2013 BRZ, and I’ve test driven the current GR86. It handles very similar to the 2013, but the power increase has made the current model so much better. Makes me want to modify mine. The big concern I have is the oil starvation found while people have been tracking the current model. I’ve also driven the Elantra N (i30 Sedan N in Australia) and it’s just a weapon. I’d probably get the i30/Elantra N if I were in the market now as it does it all well, except drift 😂
The power increase 😂, thing is still slow, I don't like hyundai but would take that over the gr86 any day. The homie girl bought one, really can't justify paying 40k out the day for a fake sports car.
@@MWAclanGaming is the MX-5/Miata a sports car? What do you define as a sports car? Nothing handles like the BRZ/86 for the price point.
@@MWAclanGaming🤡🤓
@MWAclanGaming what do you drive?
@benglasby8014 who cares about the price point. No one cares how much your car is when tracking. A win is a win.
Love your reviews, man! can't wait to get a gr of my own. Smiles per mile!
Great Fun:$ ratio. Like the exhausts. I can see the attraction for those looking for a fun to drive car for a reasonable price. Personally would like to see it in a different color but maybe black is best on it.
Halo white is a beauty too, really shows off the curves of the car, but black looks fantastic too. The Neptune blue is also nice, but the striking color would probably annoy some after the novelty of it wears off, depending on how much attention one likes.
Just get it wrapped. It's not a big deal
I went from an FRS into a Porsche Boxster S manual... I gotta say, the Porsche handles SO much better and really was everything I wanted to Mod my FRS to be. I personally dont think I can ever get the FRS to even compare to a Porsche reliably from my own garage.
Lol you seriously comparing an FRS to a Porsche?
@@SME5724it’s not crazy. I own a 981 boxster s and a 2022 gr86
@@stms4411 who cares what you own ?? It’s about a 50k difference in price new ….sure size compared not mechanically or suspension wise
@eazydoesit276 you're missing the most important thing: German masterpiece versus Jap crap.
"In case you have that one friend who does not care if he is squashed..." 😁😁
Joe, don't we ALL need a friend like that in our lives? There are so many situations where they come in handy....😆😆
Everyday feels like i am on the track! this car makes you a better more aggressive driver.
This would have been crazy if it was turbo because with a turbo and that weight it would take out a Type R and Elantra N and I own an N
Get eventually mod one for 10k or less. Definitely an interesting future proposition
I get this for me and a Kia Sportage for the family.
Elantra N/Civic Type R won't blow up on the track like the GR86. Yes they are losing oil pressure on road courses. Hopefully they fix it. Silicone from oil pan getting sucked up into motor. You will get better fuel economy out of the Elantra N with normal driving. The GR86 is the best looking car out of those for sure.
I wish i never sold my Brz. It was a fun little car for sure.
Man, the car is super fun, and it's an RWD for its weight it handles really great, but it is lacking power for its price point specially where I live at. The gr86 goes for around 44k whereas the EN goes for 41k.
I test drove both and a week after got the EN I was able to roll race against the GR86 and I felt happy with my choice 3 attempts to the roll race I was able to pull away every single time. I am looking forward to do a track day and compare the times but the only person I know of that owns one is scared of the oil starvation issues.
U got dct or manual
@@vonstrong92 6 speed m/t pal
@@dead_freak_prgaming2290 best way to go how reliable is the N
@vonstrong6049 So far, it has been great. Got it on Jan 2023, and so far, it has been great, especially on Canyon or Twisty Roads. I'm currently awaiting an autocross event, and I'll give it a run there to fully test it. Mine has fairly low mileage, about 3,600 but not a single issue
@@dead_freak_prgaming2290 nice I got a maxima as my daily I need a fun manual for weekends I test drive new brz it was ok and the si was sporty but felt soft I need to test drive type r n and the Elantra n or mustang gt lol
Elantra N is a better buy. It doesn't look as sporty as gr86 but the power and fun for the price is insane plus with few bolt ons and tune youll easily be pushing over 350 whp. With gr 86, it's fun rear wheel drive looks better than elantra N but the power just isn't there and you pay same price if not more, you can tune but you'll barely get 280whp
Thanks for sharing that great info and insight!
Also, Hyundai still let owners bring their cars to the track no matter how long you want to push it without voiding warranty. Toyota hastily refuses owners who attempt to do so, even worse, FA24 engines still have no permanent solution for the melting sealant problem.
Loving this car Jo. The fact that it is a rare wheel drive, SUPPER.
I ALSO LIKE the AC ventsm they're like turbine engines
Asks us to listen to exaust/car then proceeds to yell at the top of his lungs 😂😂. Awesome review btw!
The exterior exhaust sound clip
Thank you for that history lesson. I have wondered what that Gazoo Racing thing was especially since the old 86s had TRD badging.
I want a sunroof with my GR . I think it would look fantastic
WRC - the World Rally Championship - which they've won Championships with throughout the whole European area. It's the WORLD Rally Championship - they race around the WORLD. Like Mexico, Kenya, Chile, Japan, New Zealand, Argentina, Australia
It’s really not as slow as some people would have you believe. I own a Supra and a Z06. The GR86 is a great car and really fun
i'm curious as to why toyota doesn't field the GR Supra in GT3 in WEC?
maybe the Supra doesn't have the foundation to effectively compete
Because they have all of their money wrapped up in their Hypercar.
@@RaitisRides if they got out of nascar,maybe it might help.then again they might loose some market share in america if they did that.i don't know,lol
This car has acceleration, braking, cornering, and is easy to drive. Just need a more comfortable seat like type r. And sound dampening proofing lexus
This car looks so good. I want to learn to drive manual. What are some good used manual cars to learn?
Carolla or any little buzz box
Joe, is there any way for you to use your Toyota/Subaru connection to feed back that they seriously need to deal with the oil starvation issues and RTV issues? The engine issues are destroying the GR86’s image
I just got mine last week but I'm thinking of returning it for something because of the RTV issues
@@John-jf8nh I was very interested in buying a GR86 but I can’t imagine buying a new car having such a major longevity issue. I keep my cars forever.
@shahrukhbakar3248 if you really want the gr86 I would recommend waiting until this issue gets resolved or go with the gr corolla 👍🏻
@@John-jf8nh I somehow doubt either Toyota or Subaru will do anything about either the RTV issue or the oil pressure issue. There haven’t been enough failures and both companies aren’t doing anything about it. Plus the next generation car will have a different engine anyway. Hard pass…too bad.
What the Celica could be after the GT Four model.
Joel I’m with u I got friends saying it’s a slow car but I don’t care I drove it before just so damn fun❗️im thinking about the 86 or the new Taco or the Corolla GR 😉 as my next ride👌🏽 Toyota brining back the fun for real💪🏽
I am in korea where hyundai is located and here the elantra n is $10,000 cheaper than the gr86.
It has already been proven that the Elantra N is faster than the GR86 on the track.
Nevertheless, I also bought the gr86.
That car looks gorgeous.
I've been wanting an Elantra N since it came out, but the GR86 is so tempting even if it's not turbocharged and doesn't have a crazy design.
I'm fortunate to have a new '22 Hayabusa and the thing has too much engine for the road to enjoy revving it out.
However, it's enjoyable in the twisties doing legal speeds. I think I'd enjoy a GR86 even if it's doesn't have a lot of power. Engine seems more than peppy enough to be enjoyable.
EDIT: Gazoo Racing is the true TRD now. The TRD trims stand for Toyota Ricer Development. 😅
I had a 2021 BRZ and it was just too slow.. fun car to drive since it's light and rwd, but that's it. You get smoked by pretty much everything that's either v6 or turbo/supercharged. The car need at least 300hp to be fun for me.
300hp is excessive, try the new model. hp is not everthing
"this is the poor man's cayman..."
definitely not the best salesman around LMAO! xD
i love this car
I’m so glad to hear!
Waiting for 2024 Elantra N. Gr86 is nice, but some folks want more power when they're late work.