The 2024 Acura Integra Type S & 2023 Honda Civic Type R Is A Hot Hatch Family Feud
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- The #HondaCivicTypeR has been the king of hot hatches since it was introduced to America back in 2017. For 2024, it would seem like the #AcuraIntegraTypeS is looking to steal the crown from the #TypeR by borrowing all the goodies from the Civic for the first-ever #IntegraTypeS. Today, we have both the #TypeS and #CivicTypeR to see which one of these two #HotHatches from #Honda is actually the better buy.
Big shoutout to @BernonCars for joining us to do this comparison! He was testing the Civic Type R for his channel this week so be sure to go to: / @bernoncars to see his review on the Civic!
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Happy Weds guys! We want thank Bern from @BernonCars for joining us for this comparison test! He was driving the Type R during the same week that we had the Type S so the timing just worked out perfectly! We also wanted to apologize for some wind noise, we forgot to bring a wind blocker for Bern’s mic but our editor, Rob did his best to minimize it. Would you guys pick the Type R or Type S? Let us know below!
Type S all the way. I’m 40 years old with 2 kids. So that works for me perfectly.
Yoooo if this is Olney, MD, I lived around 5 minutes where you guys started driving the Type S!!!! That was Muncaster Rd and maybe Norbeck Rd you guys were on. 36:30
Type S all day for me. I was all in on the Type R until reviews like your first one made it abundantly clear I was wrong about Acura. They did very well with the ITS.
Curious that no one mentions the additional set of sensors in the bumper that the ITS has. They help mitigate low-speed collisions and assist with blindspots all cars have.
Type S all day
Mann what a fun day!! Both of these are absolute monsters, Thank you for having me on the channel!!
“We’ll do it live!” That reference never gets old.
I'm so glad you noticed it LOL
I’ll choose the Integra. Based on the design and more availability and lastly the exhaust sound 🔥
I'm not so sure about availability. I put in my pre-order in May and I'm still waiting in August.
@@mikemccormick6128 really? What st you in?
@@moisesescobarr Grand Rapids. I don't have a lot of confidence in my dealer.
@@mikemccormick6128 damn. Bc here in Maryland there’s several dealers who have several. Some mark ups and others are msrp deals but with a 1500 dealer appearance package crap. I would shop around and look if you’re desperate or can find a better deal. You never know.
Lol availability, maybe. 20k markup, though.
The video I didn’t think I needed until it popped up.
Also the Bern i didnt think i needed till he popped up
Type R for me but I wouldn't mind the Type S
The FL5 is simple and has a classic look that will stand the test of times. The integra has this modern-angular look that every car company seems to be doing. I'll stick with the classier Type R.
looks like another Acura - That is great but the FL5 is special cool
The fl5 sounds like a microwave. The looks aren't timeless
@@ulysses4989front resonator delete
Both cars are amazing looking. However they are not worth the price.
The Integra looks great in that blue color.
The Integr Type S all day baby.👌🏼
The way the sunlight hits the apex blue pearl 😩🤌🤌🤌
Great combo with Bern. It seems as if you 2 had worked together for a long time. More vida together
Best vid I've watched so far on this channel! Bern is so knowledgeable about cars as well and you guys' chemistry while doing the videos is great.
Really informative and entertaining hot hatch family feud review, Sofyan! You and Bern have such good chemistry and do a great tag team job of comparing these two hot hatchbacks. Easily one of the most fun reviews to come out of Redline. Thanks!
Hey Redline, shout out to you guys for being the first to do this comparison on video. It was only a matter of time...as a big Honda/Acura fan, I am hoping a few others will follow suit!
Great video, and thanks for the introduction to BernonCars, I hadn't heard of him before. Subbed to him! (Longtime Redline Reviews sub 👍🏽)
Who is this other guy? He’s awesome!
Another great review/collaboration! I love both vehicles but would love the keys for the Type R.
I own an FL5 and not sure what they were talking about when they said the rear wing cut their view right in half where in fact it is perfectly positioned so you don’t see it as you look through the rear view mirror. Almost every other review of the Type R mentions that the rear view is unobstructed by the wing.
Maybe they were joking?
@@mikemccormick6128 could be...maybe I'll watch it again.
Another great video Redline
I’m glad you decided to do this
That’s $150k of cars right there 😂
I just came across this particular episode of Redline Reviews. I like the vibe that you and Bern impart to the review. WRT the two cars, both are beautiful and very well turned out. That Honda and Acura sought to differentiate their products was clear--the Acura folks really tried to make their car distinct--and it worked. But, then again, the Type R has loads of "distinct", too.
One minor gripe: a crucial part of the "pops and burble" dynamic in the Acura come from a valve that shifts the exhaust flow from the two outboard exhaust tips to the centre tip (and accompanying muffler).
If I had a Jay Leno-style garage space (and the savings account to match), I'd have one of each! Thanks for this.
Got mine yesterday apex blue.
It’s so fun driving this machine 😊.
I think they're both great cars but it depends what? Both cars get stupid marks ups though which keeps it out of real fans hands.
I think there is a higher percentage of Acura dealers that don't mark up. My dealer let me order the Type S at MSRP.
Now you know I had to tune into this one! 😎
This is the best review of these cars that I’ve seen. I drove a Type S and kept my Type R preorder. Both cool, but it’s my weekend car that I intend on keeping for a long time, not daily driver at all.
Thanks for the video - I had been searching around for comparisons. When it comes to the question of which, it's tough for me. On one hand I really like what the Acura stands for: being more adult, having matching seats, better exhaust and a slightly more plushy suspension but what I don't like about it is the overfenders look kind of cheap to me. The front and back of the car look so good but idk. Maybe I just need to see it in person. On the other hand I like that the Honda is more raw, the dash is more minimal and the body of the car is just so much more seamless than the integra... Just the wide body around the wheel wells is integrated so well unlike the Acura. But I dislike the mismatching seats and the wing. Don't get me wrong, the wing is cool but as someone who has to drive into an office building during the week I don't want to be seen as the 'racer boy'. Both great cars - I might just have to see them more in person before making a decision.
I pick integra type s
Bern is a natural! Keep bringing him on for collaborations.
Both fetch mark ups, the civic mark up is typically double that of the integra, so you’re talking 10-15k markup (I’ve seen as high as 20) for the civic, and the integra 5-10k (typically 7500, but I’ve seen as high as 15) making them damn near the same price. I think the integra looks better and since it has more features and is essentially the same price or less to buy… integra Type S all day.
I’ll take one Type S please!
The integra body design should win an award 🥇 ❤
Integra for me
I love these thorough reviews, but my man is straight obsessed with LEDs.
Both are nice. I’d probably choose the Acura.
Historically, all Type R’s never had a sunroof, inside are structural bracing for rigidity. You can’t put a sunroof in there, there’s an X brace in the way. All CTR mechanics were carried over to ITS to be on par on performance.
YES! Be happy that they both exists, before no more ICE to buy! It makes me really considering them, but 53k...... 😓😓😓
Integra …cause I’m older😅
Hey Sofyan--where'd you get that Honda t-shirt? I like it!
Great video guys, the price for the R here in the Midwest are reasonable for the civic, but i don't drive stick shift. I think the Acura Integra wins!
Where did you get that honda shirt?
Great video. I went with the Type R 👌
Where did you get the red H Honda T-shirt?
Bern’s outfit it wilddd
A big factor for me is that the Type R is made at the Yorii plant in Japan and the Type S is made in the Ohio plant. I never hear anyone mentioning it.
That’s correct. We both forgot to mention it. Thankfully, we noticed the quality in both cars seemed similar.
That fact is exactly why the pricing for the ITS is ridiculous
Where it is made does not mean anything UNLESS they use different engineering formulas. I am sure Honda formulas are consistently built regardless of what soil it is done on
@@PsychicMedium4747 there’s a cost attached to transporting the car from Japan to NA. This is why the ITS should’ve been cheaper as it’s built right here on US soil.
Yes, exactly! The Integra is even more impressive because it’s built in the USA 🇺🇸
I'm taking the Acura wish it had daul clutch for those can't drive manual
@@Ac_AdapterExactly. Would love a faster DCT option.
Dual*
In the sea of dual clutch everythings, a manual only option is a good exception (edit: especially a Honda manual)
@@Ac_Adapter Missing the point ...its a car for enthusiasts who enjoy rowing their gears. Not for 0 -60 bragging rights.
@@Ac_Adapter It's one of best manuals available , or one of best the "feeling" shifter as you said. Go drive one, and you will understand.
I like this team up.
the link up of the year
I must say that integra which is a premium brand as compared to civic which is a gem but as the two cars have same output figures i must say but have different chassis tuned dynamics and steering response is so much upgraded as compared to civic as it torque steers which is extremely awesome to drive so my last preference will be both as both are top leading brands
Thanks!
While all 3 exhaust tips on the Integra S appear to be the same size, that is only the outer diameter of the tips that is the same. The inner diameters of the 2 outer tips are smaller than the inner diameter of center tip, just like the Civic R.
It’s much easier to find a Type S close to MSRP near me than it is with a Type R. They might as well be the same price, so I’d go for the Integra.
Both the Integra Type-S and the Civic Type-R are really good cars. I would actually prefer the Integra Type-S over the Civic Type-R if I have to choose one of them. I love that the Integra Type-S has a bunch of good color choices for the interior and exterior. In comparison with the design, the Integra Type-S is more stylish than the Civic Type-R. And the fact both of them are powered by the turbocharged K-Series engine, they still make a good sound for the exhaust, but I think Acura did really well of what Honda could've done to make the exhaust system to sound mean. Still, the Integra Type-S and the Civic Type-R continues to be great cars to daily drive, but it usually depends on what you choose more often.
Wish Acura would bring back an integra coupe!
My 2018 accord has the same chime when you get in as the type r lol
Probably all Hondas do.
The type are makes a statement… it’s an amazing car with a strong and dedicated following. Nice comparison.
what type of styling is more cohesive and premium when it has tacked on fenders... im confused
Fenders aren’t tacked on they’re body molded
I'm extremely thankful the ITS doesn't have a sunroof.
Canadian FL5 does not have heated seats, but the ITS and all integras have heated steering wheels as standard
Love the looks of the Type S but I don’t know about justifying the price hike.
Yeah 👍 the Acura Hanna be my favorite 😁
oh damn! wow imma watch this bout 20x lol serious
The type s is nice. They really should have put sunroof and more luxury into car at that price.
Nice taste guys
I love the Acura and I’m a Honda guy ,driving a civic sport 2024 in the same blue as the Acura. I have had several SI 2 doors and 4 and a touring sport . But for 7 more Gs I would want it setup like the golf R with the amazing dsg! For the price of the Acura I would just get the R!!!! Thanks boys good video, things definitely change as you get older especially the whole manual issue. Most of my life I would go with the stick but now with multiple back operations I’m learning to enjoy paddle shifting.
Oh how fun my goodness the FUN!!!!!!!!!!! And Burn 🔥 is here I'm done ✔️ 🙌
I'm guessing the Honda Civic Type R would have better residual value.
Not if you paid mark up which is what most ppl are paying.
We feel both should have similar residual values.
It will 100% hold value better. Being a R and a number car. Don’t see this car dropping value anytime soon infact it may go up
Type R $72k here in San Antonio Texas 😢
Cool video. Could have mentioned the copper color wheels accessory. I have them on my apex blue and they look great. Black wheels are so played out, right?
50k and no navigation but 44k but the Type does.
Most people already have navigation on their phone.
Pointing out the price of the top trim integra type S doesn't have but should come standard with navigation especially for the asking price.
Great cars, pricing (like many cars these days) is the Achilles heel here. Still, someone will buy it…hence why automakers keep pricing these things in a higher order than they should be
Traded my ‘24 M3CS for ITS and haven’t regretted it for a moment.
Must be the most bashed person in the M communities.
I didn’t tell them, just quietly stepped away
They should’ve added some led fog lights on them both
owned both, Type R is a lot better
Let me get the type s then 😂
I was looking for a CTR. Primarily because the MSRP is lower than the ITS.
In reality is easier to find an ITS for lower than a CTR.
Exactly. I also inquired about the Type-R first. $15,000 markup for Type-R. MSRP for Type S.
Would love the type S or even the type R but you can get a lot more car for that much money. It’s a shame
You should be able to put these cars into 1st gear with the clutch pedal pressed down to eliminate the limiter...
If that Acura had AWD it would be even more of a killer.
No too heavy
@@gordonschiff3621 nope.. trade off for better traction
@@gordonschiff3621 I love my ITS, but it still would have been cooler with SH-AWD.
"It ain't a tight car if it ain't a type R"
I'm glad Honda decided not to do away with manual transmission for both vehicles. It really does make them more special even if they're not as fast as their European competitors.
I like the comfort of the comfort interior and wheels of the Integra but I love the body of the Honda minus the table style boot spoiler. But I'd take the Integra over the Honda due to comfort, exhaust note, interior design and the audi system. Thank you atredline team for putting this video together. Other TH-cam channels have done the same but it was way too short and I have questions than than answers once the video is complete. So thank you so so much for answering like 95% of the questions I had. Bern was spectacular.. Big Ups!! Keep on pushing 🎉🎉
Great Review of both cars! I have the Type S, which is an awesome car. I have owned some fun cars in the past: Honda CRX, Prelude SVR, Civic SIR hatchback, Ford Fiesta ST, GLA AMG and have driven some super cars. The Type S is the most fun car so far. Just the perfect package. Couldn't ask for more, as far as performance is concerned. If I could have both the Type S and Type R! oh boy! I would use the Type R for the track.
And here I am shopping for a FK8
If you compare these two hatches to comparable package crossovers, you get way more car out of these two at a lesser price. Better fuel economy, similar interior space, way more hp, and amazing handling.
Fl5 with awe exhaust is gonna sound a lot better 🫡 type s does sound lovely stock 🥹 fl5 for me 🍻
There's a sunglasses holder in the Integra. It looks absent in the Civic
The yellow car is a paid actor 😂.
I just got a black FL5 but I have to admit the type S does look better but I'm just not sure if I'll like the look as much a couple years from now so TYPE R for me
I'd take the Type S in white with the wheels in black. The better styling will even stand out more with white/black contrasting colors for me.😊
I’d pick the Integra. Hate that we have to loose features to get more performance and power.
I was entertaining getting either but after seeing the type r not have parking sensors… I am not sure how I feel about that. 2023 it should be standard imo
A month ago I was going to but a white Integra Type S, but I was curious and also test drove a blue A-Spec manual with the tech package. I ended buying the A-Spec. I just felt I would've ended giving up too many usefull day to day features. No memory driver seat, no front passanger electric adjust seat, no sunroof, no fog lights. I don't understand what Acura was thinking when they removed all that stuff. At the end of the day the A-Spec gives me about 90% the daily experience for alot less money and better gas milage. I would probably bought the Type S if I was 10 years younger, but when you get older you just end up being more practical I guess.
I know what they were thinking.
All this unnecessary stuff will result in weight saving and stronger structural rigidity.
Important things on a sports car.
The backend of the Type R actually looks wider than the type S. The Acura is perfect except for that rear end....
Love how the acura looks, but at 6'1 i couldnt fit in the back on headroom
Are you going to own it to drive it or ride it?
@Marbind drive, but I have friends, family and pack a lot in my car regularly
I like the integra in silver
You can tell Sofian don't like being a passenger lol
Dude really reminds me of Chidi from The Good Place
There is $15,000 dealer markup on the Civic Type R in my area, which makes it a lot more expensive than the Integra Type S
The design of these two cars should’ve been switched….the CTR should have the more boy-racer look and Type S the more mature look. But agreed, the Integra is “just” a Type S and should’ve been offered with a sunroof option and all the bells and whistles. Save the hardcore stuff for an ITR.
Then people will complain that is too soft for a 51K.
There is no way to make everyone happy.
I love the idea that is literally a Type R with different badge.
I'm jealous of those massive calf muscles
Honestly I only use the sun/moon roof on my care 5%of the time. Loosing the sun roof is not a lose.
If you think about it, just a hassle.
It can leak
The glass can break
Adds lots of wind when opened
Raises the center of gravity
Adds weight
Both are great cars, but I would have to go with the Integra for the heated seats alone.