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Early Game Jungler Martis is a nightmare to fight against. It's even more deadly when your team don't have reliable CC skills to fight against. I always had to play mind games with other Martis users since I use Minotaur (I mean at least the coming update he'll get more reliable CC)
This buff has made him a monster in the early game and still lethal late game. But yeah he struggled a lot more in the late game so I guess it’s alright.
1:57 I'm actually just glad Elgin recognized the Top G. He became a Teacher, Lawyer, and doctor all in one jobs and our moms like him a lot since he is not a failure like most of us.
I haven't been playing for weeks now, but as a Martis player, I can tell that these adjustments really compensates his late game performance. And you can take my word for it since I have been using him for years now. Prebuff, he fares well from early to mid game, but in the late game, he falls off devastatingly, to the point that he's more well off as a pure tank than a fighter, which is a counterintuitive situation. And very well with other newly adjusted heroes, the first few adjustment may be his overpowered stage, but I can tell right now that as the days go by, these adjustments will benefit him long term, having him able to fare pretty well against other good EXP lane heroes.
fare well against other exp laners? it's a massacre or a one-sided beat down to be more precise. buffed thamuz couldn't do shit in the early game when i played martis
There are a boatload of possible reasons as to how that came to be. Nevertheless, it's expected to have people surprised within the first few weeks with Martis's new standing in the meta, causing some results like the one u had.
@@chadist8345 before in patch update i was always able to pressing thamuz in early game but having difficulties after thamus reach lvl 4, do this change now?
I think Martis buff is quite balanced because his skill sets and passive makes him somehow weak in late game against burst damage heroes, 2nd skill CC inmunity and damage reduction isn't enough. Of course, that's the balance about being strong from early-late game in terms of damage but prone to CC like Dyrroth
I think the fact that you have no chance of outplaying his ult dmg if you are low which can lead to a triple kill or a maniac in a team fight is what makes him scary to deal with for most ppl
The reason why martis is not in the meta after so many buffs even this one is because of his mobility, Yes his second skill is mobility but its super slow and very easy to react especially in high ranks and once the 2nd skill is on Cd in the middle of a teamfight or you're running away, you're basically dead.
Not to mention, even when Martis going for full tank build he can still deal a good amount of damage especially after the buff they implimented last week.
True, I recently tried Martis jungle with most of my items being defensive items and only had one attack item (which is Blade of Despair) and he could still deal good amounts of damage in teamfights
He deserves to be this good after being very irrelevant for like 3 years, pro teams stopped picking Martis at around 2019 and now he’s on the verge of becoming part of the meta again. The long awaited return of the Ashura King!
Ending the game with martis is so hard.. If they snowball even for once.. Martis is gone.. Martis is like a snowball champ... Get fed early and build a huge lead and expect the mm to carry late.. Ending the game is so hard.. Especially under turrets..
_finally, i can die in peace yet again_ Why i think martis really works in the jungle than in the sidelane, is bcs he is a very aggressive snowballer with a strong ultimate that secure kills easily (same as karina). U just need to reach level 4, and ur alrdy gonna wreak havoc on them. If ur in the sidelane, u wont be able to use his ult much bcs ull be staying in the exp lane most of ur time splitpushing than joining teamfights. But when he’s in the jungle, not only it further improves his snowball capability, but also makes him so ahead of enemies and can easily gain the extra bonus phy atk from his passive as he levels up. Where in the jungle, they always level up faster than the rest of the team, therefore reaching his max 150 phy atk fast.
ive been using Martis for a long time now, and let me give u a tip, dont use his 2nd stage of 2nd skill, thats your escape button if u can use it correctly, basically dash skill if u running out of options, also knocks enemy away from u, ofc when u are 1v1 or even 1v2 u can use it for extra stack, cuz martis can pull of fight alone even when u have more than one opponent against u. I currently use damage build with spell vamp, can be quite usefull, but tank build is really good too, when u have good damage dealers in ur team. Thats small guide, hope it will help
I noticed it too I just bought him recently He's so strong especially as a roamer haven't try him in the Jg Because I was force to go roam 3 games ago even with tank build it's still the same also I Have a Request since you Have acess to advance server Can You try the Faramis Nerf pls This could Help us understand the situation on his Ult
Rn phoveus is a good counter for martis. Since all of his skills are considered dash (too slow for a dash), martis would have a hard time escaping from phoveus in the middle of teamfights
Martis’ strong point is definitely his ult. The nuke on that skill is insane. I always underestimated how strong it can be. It’s even scarier than karina’s ult imo
5:40 "He not unkillable type." Hold on a sec, maybe you should try use this built. Assassin emblem: mov speed, spell vamp, killing spree Items: Bod, Bloodlust axe, the rest def item.
When i was a little kid i main him because he was cool looking and now i came back to see this.. i thought he was so weak now. Im happy i got to see Hero i Adore being used so awesome
Elgin used him as jungler but I'm pretty sure he is op when played as exp cause with flicker you can counter against being squishy and can also do crazy combos giving him ability to fight in late game.Overall martis is too OP right now.
I think they should bring back the stun on his skill 1 or bring back the speed on his skill 2 to make it easier to catch enemies who are running from him
He is quite balance...at late game he still balanced and still possible to be countered...not as Powerful and bursty as paquito but against fighter I say martis now a fighter king
I think many don't fully know what makes Martis one of the hardest fighters to kill. Here's the thing. The added buff on his passive makes his skills deal more damage. Damage that can be converted into heal using spellvamp. Martis is a skill caster that relies on basic attack for extra damage. He mainly gets his burst damage from his skills, especially his ULT that can snowball any enemy he faces with the right condition. Martis needs only 2 to 3 attack items, the rest are for defense. This makes him more sturdy ontop of his 60% damage reduction from his 2nd skill, which has a fairly low cd, making him one heck of a force. Martis excels in Teamfights, where he is able to make full use of his ULT through last hitting enemies. With his 2nd skill, he can't be so easily bursted down by enemies, even if they ambush. With his ULT, he can pop enemies like a balloon and chase escaping pests away. TLDR: use defensive items to take advantage of his 2nd skill and be more teamfight oriented. He's not a BURST hero like Gusion, but like Karina (before the revamp).
I made a video about this, but also Elgin… Martis will proc BoD passive whenever any enemy under 50%hp is in hero lock range. Unlike every other hero in the game, martis doesnt have to damage them to get the passive up.
He is not op but yeah enough to compete other heroes, they just dont know how to counter him. Also all heroes are op when they are farmed up, as jungle as well. Plus finally some one using demon hunter sword on kartis other wise back then people call you nuub if you do that. 😅😂😂😂😂
Hey elgin about the adjusted heroes, Leomord actually didn't get adjusted. If you read about his passive it's still at 35% instead of 50% like the update says. Hope this gets fixed by Moonton
@@ChickenOfWar9 it does give physical attack. I tested it on both custom and classic and I could see the increase on his Physical attack when he has 4 stacks of passive
Me too I already tried martis leomord harith and terizla....for leo his damage is insanely crazy but for me its balance having 50 percent on his passive melt hero creeps and turtle easily without jungling emblem....
Exactly what I was going to say. I played against an enemy Jungle Martis and the exact thing happen. He rolled us over in the early game but can't finish the game. In the end, my Cecillion got 400 stacks and the inevitable happened
Martis' buff is kinda good now since he needs that extra attack damage for his passive when surviving in lanes or maybe farming and i think he's not that too op since he can get killed easily without teammates and for now it's decent
Hy Elgin, i am a Retired Player, 2 times Mythical Glory 3 Times Normal Mythical, I don't play since about, 5 months, and i was Main fighter Player, Martis was my 2nd most Played with about 300 Games. And a Preaty Meh WR of 56% compared to my 64% 800 Games Badang, anyway what i wanted to say is. I see that Martis is now Usable in Jungle. But i wouldn't recomand it, since you urself saw that he has a Problem getting Close to the Enemy. Thats because Martis needs a Instand Dash, wich he doesn't have, so he needs the Flicker. + The Flicker S1 Combo is Just Too good for Team Fights.
Use the unbending will and first build BOD and malefic roar you can build a bloodlust to get some lifesteal and others tank item use flicker for more survivability thats where no one can stop martis if you avoid a longer cc..
I just came from a game where the enemy got an over powered Martis, and I cannot help but try to fight off a nagging feeling that he is about to get a nice skin in the near future, because that is not how dominant he should have been. No Shot. Moonton is so confident in the level of IQ that the majority of their players possess that they don't even feel they need to be discreet about these kinda filthy business tactics. Here's what's gonna happen (and not just with Martis, any hero that is being over buffed for their momentary gain): 1) They will give enough dosage to the player for a few weeks or days to make it feel like the new skin is gonna be worth it, because you have been doing so great with Martis, and you could continue flexing it. 2) They will nerf that same Martis after you've purchased the skin and made them a huge money, and you'll realise you didn't do so well with Martis because of your skills, but because they buffed him beyond a reasonable margin for some commercial purpose. Now, you're starting to suffer the losses on records and you're not even in the meta. 3) You realize you've been clowned.
He is balanced. It's just people don't know how to counterplay him right now since Martis hasn't been used that often. Just like how Guinevere started. No one knew how to counter her since she was a fresh new hero at that time but once people know how to counterplay her, she almost immediately fell off from her spotlight. Once people get used to Martis, I'm sure there will be different voices being heard about him.
Yess trulyyy before they don't know to counter Guinevere's 2nd skill That why her op before unlike now they already know hot counter her 2nd skill, Just like martis his 2nd skill is immune but sometimes it's difficult to cast because of an error Sorry for my bad English
@@seiju6621 High sustain and burst type hero are a great counter. Freya and Esmerelda are hero that Martis struggles a lot. If any burst type hero ambush him such as Saber, Eudora and Aurora, without any defense item he is easily defeated. Martis has great survivability but once that skill is in cooldown, he is a sitting duck.
@@ranaoblivious2122 that's why this recent buff is a game changer for martis. With the extra attack from his passive, you can replace a damage item for a defense item, and still deal the same amount of damage pre-buff, theoretically. It is true that Martis is a sitting duck once skill2 is in cooldown, but that won't be a problem if you can strategize the optimal moment to use his skill. It just takes enougb practice, and the same is true for virtually all the heroes.
Elgin. he is still the 1 of the best hero for me. who other player misunderstood for rank game. due to martis late game abilities before. but he can still put up a good fight.
New Martis is like Dyrroth now. What I mean is their gameplay potential. I think it's just balanced since he both relies on his normal attacks and skills mostly in skill 2. That's his main asset tbh. And with the right item and hero, you can easily counter him.
Its true martis is broken right now...almost, if the developers think of giving him more lifesteal because seriously martis is useless when the game goes longer due to lack of hp and martis is actually a fighter but you can't even feel his hp increasing when he kills an enemy.
I mean like, with Martis, you technically just have to get the to half health essentially. Just keep using the 2nd skill, then youre basically OP. Hes good, but now hes godly
There was a time they wanted to do tank Martis vs chou but chou is so much better because of mobility in particular he can dash through walls, maybe now's the time?
This is just balance, don't exaggerate the buff that's why they nerf hero without testing them just base on exaggeration. Well I know why you put it like that.
Martis main here. I am so happy after the buff. Its 100% win if I get to play martis jungle in trio mythical rank. The main thing about martis is how to time & use his 2nd skills and 1st. 800plus matches with him so enemies cries when I get to use him but most of the time he is getting ban since past few days.
I just tested him earlier and he's pretty op! But there's a problem, I dash through the wall with his skill 2 and the first dash won't work, is this a bug? If this happened to you please reply to me thanks 👍
martis is my main hero, no wins feel like a win without him and no loss bother me if it isn't him. been maining him since no one plays him.. now? i just can't. people ban him. let me know if he's out from ban section, i might install the game again
I think it's fair, as a Martis main. He's a Fighter, 50% sustain, 50% Damage. Don't expect them to have brutal damage. His passive fits well when it comes to taking objectives.
He's balance though,just use heroes with slow cc.His still prone to cc even with cc immunity(quite funny) Slow cc can frick him up,heroes like valir and lylia and other spam heroes with slow from mid range can f him up.
Early Game Jungler Martis is a nightmare to fight against. It's even more deadly when your team don't have reliable CC skills to fight against. I always had to play mind games with other Martis users since I use Minotaur (I mean at least the coming update he'll get more reliable CC)
Yeah i always meet pro martis when mcl final and lose almost all week
Nah it’s just if ur team sucks
Yeah nerf his early game
Just used phoveous to counter martis
@@hmmm_m. not really. Just don’t finish second phase of 2nd skill then you can already use CC against Phov. Easy bait.
This buff has made him a monster in the early game and still lethal late game. But yeah he struggled a lot more in the late game so I guess it’s alright.
martis mid game is bad
but his early and late game is fucking nuts
@@GateBreakerZ that makes 0 sense
@@GateBreakerZ wtf do you even mean?
well yeah, thats why jungler like Paquito is more used because he have great mobility unlike martis
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1:57 I'm actually just glad Elgin recognized the Top G. He became a Teacher, Lawyer, and doctor all in one jobs and our moms like him a lot since he is not a failure like most of us.
I haven't been playing for weeks now, but as a Martis player, I can tell that these adjustments really compensates his late game performance. And you can take my word for it since I have been using him for years now. Prebuff, he fares well from early to mid game, but in the late game, he falls off devastatingly, to the point that he's more well off as a pure tank than a fighter, which is a counterintuitive situation.
And very well with other newly adjusted heroes, the first few adjustment may be his overpowered stage, but I can tell right now that as the days go by, these adjustments will benefit him long term, having him able to fare pretty well against other good EXP lane heroes.
fare well against other exp laners? it's a massacre or a one-sided beat down to be more precise. buffed thamuz couldn't do shit in the early game when i played martis
There are a boatload of possible reasons as to how that came to be. Nevertheless, it's expected to have people surprised within the first few weeks with Martis's new standing in the meta, causing some results like the one u had.
@@chadist8345 before in patch update i was always able to pressing thamuz in early game but having difficulties after thamus reach lvl 4, do this change now?
@@vincentplay25 it doesn't, there's something called "lane freezing" he'll be underleveled to sustain martis' damage if you know what you're doing
My Argus still very weak. His base basic attack damage is still below 200. It's only 185. That's 155 without the 30 from his ult.
I think Martis buff is quite balanced because his skill sets and passive makes him somehow weak in late game against burst damage heroes, 2nd skill CC inmunity and damage reduction isn't enough. Of course, that's the balance about being strong from early-late game in terms of damage but prone to CC like Dyrroth
Funny how he's prone to cc but he has a cc immunity skill 👁👄👁
Martis is broken rn
@@GateBreakerZ just get good
Letuzawa vs Elgin
@@GateBreakerZ 2 words, git gud
I think the fact that you have no chance of outplaying his ult dmg if you are low which can lead to a triple kill or a maniac in a team fight is what makes him scary to deal with for most ppl
It's still balance because the recent Martis , he's damage is going low at mid to late game. But now his damage is balance mid to late game
Indeed
Not really, if you build full damage build with Martis, he can get up to 1000 physical damage with the right items. That isn’t balanced
@@valkeditz31 he's still kinda squishy for a fighter and if you say spell vamp, there's an item called dominince ice and blade armor
@@valkeditz31 slow combo aside from basic attacks, while squishy af. Yeah, he's balanced for sure.
@@valkeditz31 if you build full damage with martis he'd be dead if he dives, best build for martis is 2 attack and the rest defence.
You should've build tank on him. His adjustments are good with tank items. Use it once and see the diff(ice retri only).
Before the buff i used him as a tank roamer alot, now it is better even as a tank jungler.
Was actually going to try this, thanks!
Made me think: What if BLCK Wise used this as a tank jungle? So, here I am, willing to test it as well xD
@@rvdoesyoutube its possible, maybe he'll use it in mpli
I usually build three attack items but with the recent adjustments i only need dhs
Bod, Bloodlust, Dominance.
Elgin: Have you tried jungler Martis?
Me: Always
The reason why martis is not in the meta after so many buffs even this one is because of his mobility, Yes his second skill is mobility but its super slow and very easy to react especially in high ranks and once the 2nd skill is on Cd in the middle of a teamfight or you're running away, you're basically dead.
His whole stenght, remains in standing steal after combo, since he can deal tons of damage with his boosted atack speed
Not to mention, even when Martis going for full tank build he can still deal a good amount of damage especially after the buff they implimented last week.
True, I recently tried Martis jungle with most of my items being defensive items and only had one attack item (which is Blade of Despair) and he could still deal good amounts of damage in teamfights
The Johnny joke 😳🤣
He deserves to be this good after being very irrelevant for like 3 years, pro teams stopped picking Martis at around 2019 and now he’s on the verge of becoming part of the meta again. The long awaited return of the Ashura King!
Ending the game with martis is so hard..
If they snowball even for once..
Martis is gone..
Martis is like a snowball champ... Get fed early and build a huge lead and expect the mm to carry late.. Ending the game is so hard.. Especially under turrets..
*Moonton after watching this video*
Moonton: "Hmm I guess that's it for Martis fun time."
It's good to hear Martis is back but it's sad that they are only doing this much for new upcoming expensive skin.
How the heck you know
But you maybe right, I got a feeling too
@@kaibutsugaming1744 martis have a leak skin collab so yeah that's why he had a buff this update
@@lukahryu the collab with black clover?
@@kaibutsugaming1744 no, the collab with chainsaw man.
_finally, i can die in peace yet again_
Why i think martis really works in the jungle than in the sidelane, is bcs he is a very aggressive snowballer with a strong ultimate that secure kills easily (same as karina). U just need to reach level 4, and ur alrdy gonna wreak havoc on them. If ur in the sidelane, u wont be able to use his ult much bcs ull be staying in the exp lane most of ur time splitpushing than joining teamfights. But when he’s in the jungle, not only it further improves his snowball capability, but also makes him so ahead of enemies and can easily gain the extra bonus phy atk from his passive as he levels up. Where in the jungle, they always level up faster than the rest of the team, therefore reaching his max 150 phy atk fast.
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ive been using Martis for a long time now, and let me give u a tip, dont use his 2nd stage of 2nd skill, thats your escape button if u can use it correctly, basically dash skill if u running out of options, also knocks enemy away from u, ofc when u are 1v1 or even 1v2 u can use it for extra stack, cuz martis can pull of fight alone even when u have more than one opponent against u. I currently use damage build with spell vamp, can be quite usefull, but tank build is really good too, when u have good damage dealers in ur team. Thats small guide, hope it will help
Im glad that moonton remembered about marites
based on my experience with the new Martis he still struggles in the Late but it's still better than his previous state.
I actually tried Martis Jungle My freinds said:Martis jungle?!? So stupid then i got MVP lol my freind is shocked Lol
I noticed it too I just bought him recently He's so strong especially as a roamer haven't try him in the Jg Because I was force to go roam 3 games ago even with tank build it's still the same also I Have a Request since you Have acess to advance server Can You try the Faramis Nerf pls This could Help us understand the situation on his Ult
Rn phoveus is a good counter for martis. Since all of his skills are considered dash (too slow for a dash), martis would have a hard time escaping from phoveus in the middle of teamfights
As martis main i can only agree
@@Will.I.Am0.2
Bruh I thought martis can counter him
@@Isoolated_Irl try doing that 😂
Martis can counter him or ig it's depends on the player as martis main I never struggled with another fighter
@@Isoolated_Irl
No you can't counter him, especially in late game, he deals tons of damage while being very very tanky.
Martis’ strong point is definitely his ult. The nuke on that skill is insane. I always underestimated how strong it can be. It’s even scarier than karina’s ult imo
True 💀
5:40 "He not unkillable type."
Hold on a sec, maybe you should try use this built.
Assassin emblem: mov speed, spell vamp, killing spree
Items: Bod, Bloodlust axe, the rest def item.
I won't see him as a broken fighter as long as Paquito is existing.
Do basic attack in between skill cast to maximize his damage especially if you add endless battle
He has no mana: never build items whose attributes give something one hero hasn't.
Martis jungle : shattering everyone
Time to be toxic with martis core
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i miss old God of war skin ,,, thiz new one i Lok like Obama 😅 GG tho
Martis buff was something he needed because he is easy to counter this made him a bit balance
Endless battle,blade of despair and malefic roar is only my attack item if im the core.
When i was a little kid i main him because he was cool looking and now i came back to see this.. i thought he was so weak now. Im happy i got to see Hero i Adore being used so awesome
Elgin used him as jungler but I'm pretty sure he is op when played as exp cause with flicker you can counter against being squishy and can also do crazy combos giving him ability to fight in late game.Overall martis is too OP right now.
I think they should bring back the stun on his skill 1 or bring back the speed on his skill 2 to make it easier to catch enemies who are running from him
Have you tried jungle martis? Yes, he is amazing and I have been trying to spam him as many times as possible.
He is quite balance...at late game he still balanced and still possible to be countered...not as Powerful and bursty as paquito but against fighter I say martis now a fighter king
Moonton: *buffs Martis*
Also Moonton a month later:
Makes a Martis draw event skin
I think many don't fully know what makes Martis one of the hardest fighters to kill.
Here's the thing. The added buff on his passive makes his skills deal more damage. Damage that can be converted into heal using spellvamp. Martis is a skill caster that relies on basic attack for extra damage. He mainly gets his burst damage from his skills, especially his ULT that can snowball any enemy he faces with the right condition.
Martis needs only 2 to 3 attack items, the rest are for defense. This makes him more sturdy ontop of his 60% damage reduction from his 2nd skill, which has a fairly low cd, making him one heck of a force.
Martis excels in Teamfights, where he is able to make full use of his ULT through last hitting enemies. With his 2nd skill, he can't be so easily bursted down by enemies, even if they ambush. With his ULT, he can pop enemies like a balloon and chase escaping pests away.
TLDR: use defensive items to take advantage of his 2nd skill and be more teamfight oriented. He's not a BURST hero like Gusion, but like Karina (before the revamp).
got savage twice with him after the buff (literally the first day of that buff)
I never tried jungle Martis before maybe i should
After grinding martis the only probpem i've seen is the slow animations and skill casting of the skills 1 whole combo can easily take out a fighter
I made a video about this, but also Elgin… Martis will proc BoD passive whenever any enemy under 50%hp is in hero lock range. Unlike every other hero in the game, martis doesnt have to damage them to get the passive up.
Tank build Martis is the best in early game because of high damage and tanking ability and is almost unkillable in late game
He is not op but yeah enough to compete other heroes, they just dont know how to counter him.
Also all heroes are op when they are farmed up, as jungle as well.
Plus finally some one using demon hunter sword on kartis other wise back then people call you nuub if you do that. 😅😂😂😂😂
Letuzawa vs Elgin
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I think Martis's buff is just balanced because he's been left out by other fighters such as: Paquito, And even terizla is op, etc...
Hey elgin about the adjusted heroes, Leomord actually didn't get adjusted. If you read about his passive it's still at 35% instead of 50% like the update says. Hope this gets fixed by Moonton
Not only that,Martis passive does not give atk at full stacks aswell
Was about to comment the same thing!! I thought I'm the only one who didn't receive the changes, but I guess I'm not the only one.
@@ChickenOfWar9 it does give physical attack. I tested it on both custom and classic and I could see the increase on his Physical attack when he has 4 stacks of passive
Me too I already tried martis leomord harith and terizla....for leo his damage is insanely crazy but for me its balance having 50 percent on his passive melt hero creeps and turtle easily without jungling emblem....
I tested it, it works
I'm back for main Martis. He definitely deserves this buff
Exactly what I was going to say. I played against an enemy Jungle Martis and the exact thing happen. He rolled us over in the early game but can't finish the game. In the end, my Cecillion got 400 stacks and the inevitable happened
0:23 , as a Martis user this pains me to see that you missed the 4 stacks xD
Martis is so hard countered by minshitar, so I just let him open and if they pick he's useless during all teamfights
Martis' buff is kinda good now since he needs that extra attack damage for his passive when surviving in lanes or maybe farming and i think he's not that too op since he can get killed easily without teammates and for now it's decent
Hy Elgin, i am a Retired Player, 2 times Mythical Glory 3 Times Normal Mythical, I don't play since about, 5 months, and i was Main fighter Player, Martis was my 2nd most Played with about 300 Games. And a Preaty Meh WR of 56% compared to my 64% 800 Games Badang, anyway what i wanted to say is. I see that Martis is now Usable in Jungle. But i wouldn't recomand it, since you urself saw that he has a Problem getting Close to the Enemy. Thats because Martis needs a Instand Dash, wich he doesn't have, so he needs the Flicker. + The Flicker S1 Combo is Just Too good for Team Fights.
Play terizla its very good now.
The devs still haven't fix the visual bugs on his 1st skill on zodiac skin.
Yea Boi Elgin Try forgoten heroes
for me hes balanced but have weak dmg at late
Use the unbending will and first build BOD and malefic roar you can build a bloodlust to get some lifesteal and others tank item use flicker for more survivability thats where no one can stop martis if you avoid a longer cc..
He's not a broken hero even after the buff and adjustments but more balanced
Looks like Martis is no longer forgotten thanks to this major buff. I bet he’s gonna get more popular
I just came from a game where the enemy got an over powered Martis, and I cannot help but try to fight off a nagging feeling that he is about to get a nice skin in the near future, because that is not how dominant he should have been. No Shot. Moonton is so confident in the level of IQ that the majority of their players possess that they don't even feel they need to be discreet about these kinda filthy business tactics.
Here's what's gonna happen (and not just with Martis, any hero that is being over buffed for their momentary gain):
1) They will give enough dosage to the player for a few weeks or days to make it feel like the new skin is gonna be worth it, because you have been doing so great with Martis, and you could continue flexing it.
2) They will nerf that same Martis after you've purchased the skin and made them a huge money, and you'll realise you didn't do so well with Martis because of your skills, but because they buffed him beyond a reasonable margin for some commercial purpose. Now, you're starting to suffer the losses on records and you're not even in the meta.
3) You realize you've been clowned.
This is a balance buff for martis, if he get nerf no one will use him again specially in a rank game.
He is balanced. It's just people don't know how to counterplay him right now since Martis hasn't been used that often. Just like how Guinevere started. No one knew how to counter her since she was a fresh new hero at that time but once people know how to counterplay her, she almost immediately fell off from her spotlight. Once people get used to Martis, I'm sure there will be different voices being heard about him.
Whats his counter?
@@seiju6621 in 1v1, masha, argus, but in team fights, i’d say kaja and karrie
Yess trulyyy before they don't know to counter Guinevere's 2nd skill That why her op before unlike now they already know hot counter her 2nd skill, Just like martis his 2nd skill is immune but sometimes it's difficult to cast because of an error
Sorry for my bad English
@@seiju6621 High sustain and burst type hero are a great counter. Freya and Esmerelda are hero that Martis struggles a lot. If any burst type hero ambush him such as Saber, Eudora and Aurora, without any defense item he is easily defeated. Martis has great survivability but once that skill is in cooldown, he is a sitting duck.
@@ranaoblivious2122 that's why this recent buff is a game changer for martis. With the extra attack from his passive, you can replace a damage item for a defense item, and still deal the same amount of damage pre-buff, theoretically.
It is true that Martis is a sitting duck once skill2 is in cooldown, but that won't be a problem if you can strategize the optimal moment to use his skill. It just takes enougb practice, and the same is true for virtually all the heroes.
Elgin. he is still the 1 of the best hero for me. who other player misunderstood for rank game. due to martis late game abilities before. but he can still put up a good fight.
I think martis main items rn should be focused on lifesteal, spellvamp and tank items since he has enough damage.
Always getting MVP in Mythic with jungle Martis like lool
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New Martis is like Dyrroth now. What I mean is their gameplay potential. I think it's just balanced since he both relies on his normal attacks and skills mostly in skill 2. That's his main asset tbh. And with the right item and hero, you can easily counter him.
New Martis skin must be coming so moontoon buffing him XD
Its true martis is broken right now...almost, if the developers think of giving him more lifesteal because seriously martis is useless when the game goes longer due to lack of hp and martis is actually a fighter but you can't even feel his hp increasing when he kills an enemy.
Martis getting picked or banned in my server in mythic
I mean like, with Martis, you technically just have to get the to half health essentially. Just keep using the 2nd skill, then youre basically OP. Hes good, but now hes godly
There was a time they wanted to do tank Martis vs chou but chou is so much better because of mobility in particular he can dash through walls, maybe now's the time?
1:55 OH LOL 😂
YOU'RE SO FUNNY MR. ELGIN
This is just balance, don't exaggerate the buff that's why they nerf hero without testing them just base on exaggeration. Well I know why you put it like that.
if we're talking about op fighter it'll always be the prime yu zhong
I think it's alright. he's like alucard where it's good early but gets difficult late game
Definitely broken. Thank god peoples not spamming this hero.
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Will argus get another buff
while watching jungler martis dying to Uranus.. These people still saying he's too op now
Martis main here. I am so happy after the buff. Its 100% win if I get to play martis jungle in trio mythical rank. The main thing about martis is how to time & use his 2nd skills and 1st. 800plus matches with him so enemies cries when I get to use him but most of the time he is getting ban since past few days.
I just tested him earlier and he's pretty op! But there's a problem, I dash through the wall with his skill 2 and the first dash won't work, is this a bug? If this happened to you please reply to me thanks 👍
Yes I tested it too. The first dash passing through walls doesn't work
he is indeed lethal. he can jungle fast and clear lanes right after. Goodluck late game. he is so tanky with insane damage.
martis is my main hero, no wins feel like a win without him and no loss bother me if it isn't him. been maining him since no one plays him.. now? i just can't. people ban him.
let me know if he's out from ban section, i might install the game again
It is not overpowered. This change just allows him to be actually become a hero instead of a minion in the late game.
Now he really holds the title "God of War" but sadly he'll be banned in rank 😭
I think it's fair, as a Martis main. He's a Fighter, 50% sustain, 50% Damage. Don't expect them to have brutal damage. His passive fits well when it comes to taking objectives.
does anyone remember how Martis was the strongest fighter of MLBB during his first release.
everybody was squishy af back then for some reason
Letuzawa vs Elgin who will win?
right now one of the most badass fighters out there thanks to his mad dog running style and his smooth kill with ult
Surprised you didn't mention his cool voicelines
You ignore the spell vamp item which is core for martis . See my shorts about martis and check how op he is with spell vamp
They did Martis disgustingly op with the attack speed and damage passive while argus crying on the side trying to keep up with the current meta
I mean, even Argus counterpart which is Freya is crying trying to keep up with the current meta 💀
This is gonna be nana's op scenario all over again.
He's balance though,just use heroes with slow cc.His still prone to cc even with cc immunity(quite funny) Slow cc can frick him up,heroes like valir and lylia and other spam heroes with slow from mid range can f him up.
bring back Martis with the first skill stun
Op
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