Lesley’s high damage makes her able to be chosen in nearly any match,all you really have to do is to stall until you get 3-4 items and then you can start 1-3 hitting your enemies
@@Micchi- One easy way to nerf Lesley is by nerfing her enhanced basic's crit chance, not nerfing her dmg, and problem solved. As of now she pretty much deals guaranteed crit with Berserker only, dealing aroind +1k dmg easily in the early game. I'd say nerf her enhanced basic's crit chance by making it scale with level like Natan's passive (from 50% flat to 20%-35% crit chance should be good). And for all of you who'll whining about "she'll be useless then", remember that her enhanced basic now is a GUARANTEED TRUE DMG, whether it's crit or not, so she'll still deal good dmg, just not 1-3 shotting every heroes. And her ult even give crit chance passively (not to mention the helpful emblem crit chance). Tl;dr : Just nerf her crit chance and she's good to go. That way, she'll be more inconsistent while still dealing good dmg (similar to Bruno's crit consistency)
She really glowed up from being one of the most trollest picked mms to one of the most absolute menacing heroes to date. I really thought that the fixed pen > percentage pen conversion passive adjustment would be enough to help solve her problem of dealing with tanks but they really took the extra mile and create a whole new *Crit True Dmg* thats makes her all the menacing to tanks now xD
The reason why she’s a popular pick is because she can flat out dish True Damage, unlike other MM that can utilize true damage through items or skill mechanics. Plus with fast regeneration of her Passive you can just spam it twice thats what makes her potent. Also she’s the Marksman that counters her counter, which is Wind of Nature
Add Blade of Heptaseas and she will deal more damage when poking enemies so you can easily trigger the passive of Blade of Despair. She's more of an assassin now than marksman so I seldom build her with attack speed. The only attack speed item that I buy is Wind of Nature just in case there is Zilong, Aldous or Saber.
Her true damage revamp is so brutal especially in early game, even with the late game damage nerf she's still a massive problem. And, if you can execute multiple "double taps" then you're going to send your lane match up packing every time. I am maining her since her release and this is a huge huge boost for us Lesley mains. They did her justice.
The Penetration conversion was a good concept, but Moonton knowing most Lesley mains use attack speed build for every match, it would make the revamp unnoticed.
Lesley became an abosolute nightmare to everyone since her revamp. With her new passive, she can easily hold a candle against Wanwan, Beatrix, Brody, Clint, Popol and Kupa, Karrie, and Claude. On top of that she also became one of the strongest heroes in the late game (Alongside Cecilion and Aldous) and to effectively melt tanky heroes (alongside Karrie and Lunox).
By the mid-late game damage nerf,I think she's getting a little bit balanced,but maybe the developers needs to nerf her 2nd skill a little bit so that more assassin can gank her easily.The damage of her passive is already balance,unique and fit in the current meta. There's also some other heroes that can counter her(clint,kimmy and even claude if you outplayed her)
I'm proud to say I saw her potential even before her true damage buff. Still rmb all the trahstalks I got but shined after the game. Seeing her getting banned now does make me sad lol
4.16 p.m. (9/12/2022) (30 mins ago ) No cuz she's literally one of the most op hero in the late game even Lunox and Karrie are literally just below her 😭
I think she deserves the spotlight, she has been called a troll pick for too long, and its not like she can kill 5 people at once like how Wanwan and Beatrix can with their BS damage, she deserves this
Yes right, she is a single target unlike Miya ult late game, Wanwan ult with that 2.5 sec immunity and that BStrix. Also Clint at early still a problem...
@@gregorioperol7092 yeah people don't understand the difference between single target and multiple lol, multiple is meta, or else why would Wanwan Beatrix be dominating so hard for so long after constant nerfs, and yeah Clint too, his ranged poke is bs
yeah she was but other Marksman's were just outperforming her, you can play her well but if the opposite marksman is also good then you will have a really hard time
I agree. She can easily melt tanky heroes, blade armor and antique cuirass are now useless against her. She is very hard to counter. I also noticed her true damage can penetrate Wind Of Nature Physical Damage Immunity. I'm begging Moonton to nerf her immediately.
I started playing most of my Lesley matches this season due to her revamp. Went from 42% winrate up to 57% and now down to 52% since I’ve been pairing up with a lot of game throwing teammates up at Mythic II. Fun to play with but need a solid tank to follow you around early game or if you can zone out your lane
One of the reasons that makes lesley viable and better than other marksmen is the fact that she bypasses Wind of Nature which most marksmen are very reliant to. She can still deal true damage even if the enemy uses Wind Chant. No other marksmen can do that. Hit and run strategy always works for her too. She also has immunities when using her first skill (Claude SS, Karrie's 2nd skill) and you can't use single target skill and basic attack when she's in camouflage.
Lesley was really good and can play in any kind of matches. If enemies got lot of squishies heroes, she can 1-2 shot u. If enemies got lot of tanky heroes, she can poke u to death. Even with high hp items, the enemies can't survive the damage output.
People just sucks at playing her just because she got true damage doesn't mean she is a early game monster and people plays lesley super aggressive so thats why her wr is lower in legend and all ranks
@@1wb1 Playing Lesley require you to keep your distance at all times, even more aware of the map (where the enemy heroes is), pick when to battle and when to farm cause you need items ASAP. Her skill is easy to use, but her playstyle is hard.
Imo for the last item a defensive item like immortality would be better than giving 2 bod , since having immortality will prevent u from enemies trying to one shot u.
Heres a build i use to actually have a balance between push and killing also what spell i use Swift Boots Berserker Blade Windtalker Wind Nature Immortality Blade of Despair Spell : Sprint For fast movement and evation also to quickly get to a team battle from far away
Tbh, I would choose Blade of Heptaseas over Windtalker any day. If you are reading the patch notes, they nerfed her critical damage to 140% similar to Ling. But in return she will convert any fixed point of Physical Penetration to 0.5% Critical damage. BoH combined with the unique passive of Berserker's Fury can get her Crit damage back to 200+ percent. Plus the bonus passive of BoH. This two shots most Marksmen and Mages. 😌👌
I've been using Lesley as my main since the release in 2018. I can tell you that this hero is only usable in low rank games back in the days (even before the new revamp), plus the burst items for MMs especially atk speed and crit with malefic only works for her. With her capabilities, one only lacks and it's her mobility (I can tell that even today..) The time this hero has been recognized after the Gusion and Lesley update, seeing the revamped version with new meta items for her was game changing. Even tho I never expected any potential from Lesley after her first nerf way back before and then to think that this hero would get this far is truly amazing and gave every Lesley mains an uprising. The scariest thing about this hero is that it's already scary enough when you know how to execute her mechanics in the right manner, making it much more deadlier if you're experienced enough and mastered the hero.
She's a tanks worst nightmare, Demon Hunter Sword is one thing to watch out for marksmans, but having an instant true damage when she does her passive and it crits, yeah you could say that armor is useless against her especially in late game.
first thing you must do while using Lesley, be patient, find the right moment, that's what i do, I also use Dire hit on her I dont use wind talker, but use Double BoD on her
@@toilet_paper_man2064 A roaming blessing where it deals hybrid damage when the target reaches a certain current HP percentage. Recommended for roamers that can do good damage like Natalia, Franco, Grock, JS, Popol and Kupa and even Julian.
3 taps you first time you chase her she has second skill second time she'll use second skill third time you caught her she'll flicker nxt time she'll first skill and kite nxt time she has backup once you run away she'll ult you to death fuck is that so op
On my way to Mythic rank for using Lesley as a main hero. As long as you play safe and conserve the early game, and gather your core items, it would be very easy for you to deal a good amount of damage just by pre to mid-game.
Tips: 1. always consider cs than to poke enemies in early - pre mid game 2. maximize passive at all premises 3. build windtalker, berseker fury and blade of despair for powerspike in mid game 4. map awareness is a must and always be distance from enemies
Actually she doesn't need windtalker cuz that gives only criti chance, movement spd and atk spd instead I always use another bod for burst true dmg I always go boot, berserker fury, bod, endless battle(most players use endless battle as second item before bod but it's passive comes from hero's basic atk dmg and without bod, the true dmg form endless battle will be less at early game), another bod or immortal or athena shield other defend item if the enemies are too dangerous, and another bod. so my full dmg build is boot, fury, bod, endless, bod, bod
@@rem_lesley windtalker is good for early game since you need fast clear and movement speed to escape potential ganks. Then sell for other bod in the late game
Honestly I think if they just made it so her true damage can’t crit she would be more balanced as it stands only viable way to deal with late game lesley it to kill her before she can attack
She is the best mm in late game , she can't be killed by fighters so jungler fighter is so dead in late game, also she eat tanks alive, her hit hurts the most, she is a letterly beast Need fast streak assasin to hunt her down When ever i play assasin and jungle i just focus to kill Lesley as far as i can
0:30 This literally explain the popularity. High damage in mid-late game, with medium damage/poke ability in early game. With no way to reduce her damage (except Blade armor maybe), it's not really surprising that she became that popular. Not only that, her kit is one of the perfect (?) kit for newbies. 1st skill to escape/chase, 2nd skill to defend herself when enemies gets too close (new mm players have this problem), and a big maphack ultimate with low cooldown.
lesly can actually can most ults with her 2nd skill which makes her a viable pick on most occasions and honestly, Elgin could've used 2nd while claude is near to cancel it and render enemy's ults useless. Another one is tigreal's ult
Honestly, it's better to build Endless Battle first to further increase her life steal in the early game (mm emblem's and Endless Battle's lifesteal) + gives her the ability to double true damage poke.
Guys, Lesley got nerf on her critical damage by -60%. Every hero got basic critical damage on 200%, while Lesley only 140%. That's why berserker is a must item early.
@@SixthGuns I mean, you'll eventually get Berserker in the mid game so you might as well give her a little bit of offense (EB' passive) and defense (EB' lifesteal) in the early game. She doesn't need Berserker as her first item because you'll not going to use her aggressively in the early game to begin with unless you have a good teammates.
What really made Lesley a top-tier pick is because of that guaranteed true damage on her passive and 1st skill. The damage cannot be countered except by using a hero like Lolita, or an item that gives high HP like Guardian Helmet which is not really a recommended item when using a squishy hero. It cannot be countered by Wind of Nature too which is very important to Marksmans. She is like one of the four heroes who does not get affected by the wind of Nature (her, Natan, Kimmy, Edith) but the other 3 can be countered by Radiant Armor.
I picked lesley when enemy picked wanwan since windtalker won't affect lesley's dmg anymore lol... I got savage in late game and i always wait for wanwan to appear and 2 shots her with my basic atk. Also i was in a trio with my bros so my early got a little bit better than usual. But enemy is also in trio so... My build is... Speed boots Berserker Fury BOH Endless Battle BOD Hunter Strike (optional) for sure 2 shot of every mm without hp def
I'm usually a roam(tank) or fighter player but after so many games where I've gotten poked to death by lesley's 2k true damage basic attacks, i started using her.
The only thing that can take her out are other one shoters like clint and broody... i prefer broody because of the stun while clint's rly poke is too fun..
Even there's no Revamp Lesley she is a Monster, when Used it safely and properly, with a Good tank and Core support on the lane. She can still be Deadly in late game. This patch just made her easier to master.
Picker her when the enemy team is just pure tank builds or too tanky Just pick Lesley Sure you can pick other tank killers like Claude But Lesley has true dmg,which ignores the shield
As much as I hate her rn, I think she kinda deserve this spotlight people are finally taking her seriously before people joked about her being an epic hero now people are finally showing some respect to lesley
I have 78% wr with Lesley, but Lesley is only effective if you know how to position yourself properly and more importantly if your tank is experienced unless you're pretty much dead. Playing SOLO side lanes below mythical glory is literally the riskiest job in the team, you can't expect your jungler to gank your lane, you can't expect your tank to gank your lane, you can't expect the same in your mage too on the other hand the opponent's rotation would make you rage quit, Noobton's matchmaking system sucks.
No its hardly noticeable because she can just get more cd items and it stil a fast cooldown on her first skill shes almost always in stealth and to overpowerd because of her true damage i would rather have it that they removed the 40% movement speed boost on her first skill so people can actually catch up with her there are only certain heroes who can kill her that are ether high mobility or assassin like cyclops ling fanny and eurdora if she able to get in range to throw her stun and ult and maybe aamon with his ult when he has enough shards. The dmg is just the main issiue its to overpowerd because its true dmg wich can hit for 2k and more of true dmg late game wich is way to much sinds you cant build anything to stop the true dmg i would say give her a fixed percentage of true dmg that doesnt scale with equipment to make her more balanced so for instance 600 true dmg at max level and the rest physical she still would be strong just not overpowerd like now.
They should revert lesley as the previous patch in which only crit that deals true damage, thats far more balanced lesley that we still can counter using an item like blade armor and HP based armor
But tbh, it was intentional for the devs to make her passive deal true DAMAGE from just critical hits to EVERY TIME HER PASSIVE ACTIVATES. It's their attempt to buff her early game but nerf her late game.
she's not too strong nor too weak. i'll say she's like yu zhong, a balanced and fun pick. she can deal good damage while it does fall behind the dps heroes like miya, clint, beatrix etc etc. to counter her, pick belerick cuz he has way too high hp even for true damage or ruby to cc lock her to death. people might whine that she's 'op' but she's really not. if you know how she works she's just another Layla with different stuff
@@abdulmuizz4927 even tanks have no chance against MMs like Miya and Wanwan or even Moskov?? almost all MMs can melt tanks in late game so how is that a problem to lesley?
Lesley is the most op mm now. Her true dmg makes it impossible to counter her, and wind of nature wont do anything. The only way to counter her is to either have something to completely negate dmg, or have high hp. Even blade armour wont do much, since its only for the crit dmg reduction
No blade armour doesnt do anything only for regulair crits the true dmg crit wil still do the full dmg of the crit because the crit is true dmg high hp isnt a counter at all if she can true dmg you dead with 4 shots of true dmg so dont say having high hp is a counter because it isnt played tank and there is no item you can get to counter lesley you stil die as a tank. Only way to kill her are assassins with high burst dmg gusion saber aamon she nevers survives gusion blades nor the ult of saber if she doesnt have purify or wind of nature and last aamon only way she can save herself is by getting winter truncheon because once aamon throws his ult and has 18 shards your dead i know because i play aamon and i always throw my ult on those annoying lesley and seen a guy who played lesley i throwed my ult on him he tried going into stealth thinking it would chance the outcome buth nope i ulted him 3 or 4 times 4 time i just saw him he accpted his fate and theres nothing he vould do buth die 🤣🤣
I'm sorry but it's not, even if her damage is high, if someone catches her she will die in less than 1 second. And most Lesley players don't build wind of nature, so everyone can kill her easily. She is very weak.
Basically a walking turrent even if I go leo or Martis tank build I can't get close to her during late game and in 2 shots I lost almost half my health even with full tank build there's legit no counter
One hero that counters this annoying new version of Lesley Helcurt easy surprise attack, Lesley will never get you if your always going after her Once night time falls, Every Lesley will hide.
Yes lesley high damage is To op,but it doesn't bother me much....his second skill make me annoy since I play thamuz in most of ranked game...when i'm trying To kill her she use his second skill And run With his first skill,when I am trying To run she Chase me back...when I am trying To attach her she use his first skill And i cant attack her
I'm not that good of a player but i got her at 80% wr in rg this season. I just wish they don't nerf her first skill effect which makes her immune to the auto aim skills like claude's ult, etc.
Her damage is fine, dont nerf the damage, the only thing that could make her balance is the energy consumption of the skill and the energy recharge, make it high use of energy and longer time energy recharge
Not exaggerating but what do u mean "her damage is fine" when she literally shreds tanks late game easily literally just poke and poke at the back and ur gonna have a head start on team fights, her dmg is too strong
@@ddsxdffff4704 so does any other mm, just make it less available so it not over powered, now lesley can use her skill so fast, energy aint concern as other hero such as hayabusa or ling and fanny
@@honesty_and_beyond" so does any other mm" wanwan can't even shred tanks easily plus she gets easily shut down by Lesley in late game if lesley caught her off guard
@@ddsxdffff4704 wan wan was nerfed, before this update she get all the spotlight, she can 1 v 5 on single ulti, just let this lesley spotlight shine until the nerf train hit, dont be selfish, almost all mm got his spotlight like claude, brody, granger, wanwan, nathan, iritel, Only layla, lesley, bruno, karrie( not the early season) are less popular and dont even get spotlight yeah and dont forget hanabi
I consider her to be a minion with crit dmg in early game. Realy useless in team fight or clearing wave. A Melissa or a Clint can easily turn her into a true minion.
Not the best, but if teammates can protect her from early until end of game, she is unbeatable. Her damage in late game is insane !!! And with true damage, WON is useless when other marksmen 1 by 1 with her.
She's the best right now (wanwan might be but she's still banned most of the time) even when she barely have any dashes , her 2nd skill and camouflage is a good escape and ganking tool plus u can maximize her dmg easily even if ur far since her passive range is pretty long, she also have a free vision which is her ult plus her true dmg that shreds tanks easily and even surprise Squishies, she's definitely so good right now I can sense a nerf but I can see why she will get nerfed
What I like about Lesley now is her early game too, she can now poke her lane counterpart easier, making it easier to farm. I also like her new Crit True Damage passive that made her extremely well at demolishing Tank or Tanky heroes. IMO my Build on Lesley varied too, I use WoN rather than Endless if they have too many physical heroes.
Just playing Lesley today I got 3 back to back maniacs, Didn't get a savage because some of my teammates are Ks Legends , (I'm not joking) she's very popular
Actually balanced na sya okay na yung true damage passive one thing na mgpapacounter sa kanya ay ang baugin sya at gank kasi kung objective lang priority wala kwento si lesley. Nanerf na nga sya kaya balanced na sya. Kaya lang sya nagiging top tier ngayon at umaangat kasi nga sa bago nya passive syempre item reliant parin naman syam di naman sasakit yan kung di nabibigyan ng item. Tsaka wala sya pantakas unless sa sprint or flicker kaya all in all goods sya.
Ps. Kasi umaabot ng 2.5k dati passive Crit True Damage nya dati e nung unang labas tas unang buff sabay nerf so rare na sya mag 2k dpende sa item mo na bibilhin ayun langs.
If the dmf is normal dmg is ok. But change it to true dmg? Late game she can hit 1. 5k++ per hit of true dmg. Tanks? Pffftt. Hit and run 3 times then its over for tanks.
@@leonmystique9372 can literally 2shot a non-tank build mm and just use ulti for secure. I can just tower hug if it's 2v1 or ask a gank from the jungler. End game I just spoke anyone within the range as have my team do the chase or clean up.
DLQ33 🤣🤣 nice, i often use attack speed boots instead of cd, and if need be replace a bod or windtalker with wind chant. Also i would've priorotized better positioning rather than a defense item, because why need armor if you dont plan on getting hit?
The simple solution is just gank the heck out of Lesley in the early game or at the very least delay her farm as much as possible. You don't want her getting her core items in the mid game.
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Lesley’s high damage makes her able to be chosen in nearly any match,all you really have to do is to stall until you get 3-4 items and then you can start 1-3 hitting your enemies
I got the best item from Hororo which is full lethality and no atk speed item and the crit is insane
Easy to use as well
Moonton scratching their head on how to balance Lesley. She will get nerfed to the ground like they nerfed Beatrix
@@Micchi- One easy way to nerf Lesley is by nerfing her enhanced basic's crit chance, not nerfing her dmg, and problem solved. As of now she pretty much deals guaranteed crit with Berserker only, dealing aroind +1k dmg easily in the early game. I'd say nerf her enhanced basic's crit chance by making it scale with level like Natan's passive (from 50% flat to 20%-35% crit chance should be good).
And for all of you who'll whining about "she'll be useless then", remember that her enhanced basic now is a GUARANTEED TRUE DMG, whether it's crit or not, so she'll still deal good dmg, just not 1-3 shotting every heroes. And her ult even give crit chance passively (not to mention the helpful emblem crit chance).
Tl;dr : Just nerf her crit chance and she's good to go. That way, she'll be more inconsistent while still dealing good dmg (similar to Bruno's crit consistency)
Just needs berserker to deal 1k true dmg lol.
She really glowed up from being one of the most trollest picked mms to one of the most absolute menacing heroes to date. I really thought that the fixed pen > percentage pen conversion passive adjustment would be enough to help solve her problem of dealing with tanks but they really took the extra mile and create a whole new *Crit True Dmg* thats makes her all the menacing to tanks now xD
yup lol
Idk how did they even thought of that.
Squishy are getting 2 shots.
Tanks are having a hard time dealing with Lesley in the late game lol. Lesley make them look like a squishy mm xD
She deserves the spotlight.
The reason why she’s a popular pick is because she can flat out dish True Damage, unlike other MM that can utilize true damage through items or skill mechanics. Plus with fast regeneration of her Passive you can just spam it twice thats what makes her potent.
Also she’s the Marksman that counters her counter, which is Wind of Nature
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oh shit so wind of nature don't work against her?
@@IamNinjaOfNinja yes its useless cuz ppl just gonna spam her 1st and 2nd anyways to get her true dmg passive
@@IamNinjaOfNinja True damage pierces Wind Chant, as well as Karrie or the thunder belt item
Don't forget about Natan, who deals magic basic attack and yes winchant is useless against him too.
Add Blade of Heptaseas and she will deal more damage when poking enemies so you can easily trigger the passive of Blade of Despair. She's more of an assassin now than marksman so I seldom build her with attack speed. The only attack speed item that I buy is Wind of Nature just in case there is Zilong, Aldous or Saber.
Same
And there's a slow effect as well on hepta, really help slowing down the target.
BoH? Loolll just buy 2 BoD for maximum damage😂
@@stupidthings1000 the blade also gives u a 160 dmg spike, its better
@@stupidthings1000 2 bod if late game, boh early to mid before 2 bod
Her true damage revamp is so brutal especially in early game, even with the late game damage nerf she's still a massive problem. And, if you can execute multiple "double taps" then you're going to send your lane match up packing every time. I am maining her since her release and this is a huge huge boost for us Lesley mains. They did her justice.
The Penetration conversion was a good concept, but Moonton knowing most Lesley mains use attack speed build for every match, it would make the revamp unnoticed.
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Lesley became an abosolute nightmare to everyone since her revamp. With her new passive, she can easily hold a candle against Wanwan, Beatrix, Brody, Clint, Popol and Kupa, Karrie, and Claude. On top of that she also became one of the strongest heroes in the late game (Alongside Cecilion and Aldous) and to effectively melt tanky heroes (alongside Karrie and Lunox).
Elgin, you can click her first skill while in ult mode (ideally on the 4th bullet), that will make the dmg of ult higher
I prefer to use the first skill then tap ult, use again her first skill on the third bullet then tap her second skill on her last bullet.
@@rommeltariga9255 that’s smart I’ve never thought of this before
Passive alone does not increase the ult dmg. So wouldn't the second skill not increase it as well?
@@wood4948 1st skill increase your physical damage
@@rommeltariga9255 actually agree on this, great point :)
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By the mid-late game damage nerf,I think she's getting a little bit balanced,but maybe the developers needs to nerf her 2nd skill a little bit so that more assassin can gank her easily.The damage of her passive is already balance,unique and fit in the current meta.
There's also some other heroes that can counter her(clint,kimmy and even claude if you outplayed her)
I'm proud to say I saw her potential even before her true damage buff. Still rmb all the trahstalks I got but shined after the game. Seeing her getting banned now does make me sad lol
4.16 p.m. (9/12/2022) (30 mins ago )
No cuz she's literally one of the most op hero in the late game even Lunox and Karrie are literally just below her 😭
I think she deserves the spotlight, she has been called a troll pick for too long, and its not like she can kill 5 people at once like how Wanwan and Beatrix can with their BS damage, she deserves this
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No she don't.
what do u mean "kill 5 people at once? She needs her teammates to protect her in teamfights
Yes right, she is a single target unlike Miya ult late game, Wanwan ult with that 2.5 sec immunity and that BStrix. Also Clint at early still a problem...
@@gregorioperol7092 yeah people don't understand the difference between single target and multiple lol, multiple is meta, or else why would Wanwan Beatrix be dominating so hard for so long after constant nerfs, and yeah Clint too, his ranged poke is bs
Before the Revamp she already had great mobility and now her true damage just made her a better Marksman.
She's a bit faster now because at one point they added a bit more movement speed to her first skill.
yeah she was but other Marksman's were just outperforming her, you can play her well but if the opposite marksman is also good then you will have a really hard time
I agree. She can easily melt tanky heroes, blade armor and antique cuirass are now useless against her. She is very hard to counter. I also noticed her true damage can penetrate Wind Of Nature Physical Damage Immunity. I'm begging Moonton to nerf her immediately.
Lesley doesn't need Malefic Roar, without it. she can still easily melt tanks and fighters
@@pikkonama8858 ikr. True damage is enough to melt tanky heroes
I started playing most of my Lesley matches this season due to her revamp. Went from 42% winrate up to 57% and now down to 52% since I’ve been pairing up with a lot of game throwing teammates up at Mythic II. Fun to play with but need a solid tank to follow you around early game or if you can zone out your lane
One of the reasons that makes lesley viable and better than other marksmen is the fact that she bypasses Wind of Nature which most marksmen are very reliant to. She can still deal true damage even if the enemy uses Wind Chant. No other marksmen can do that. Hit and run strategy always works for her too. She also has immunities when using her first skill (Claude SS, Karrie's 2nd skill) and you can't use single target skill and basic attack when she's in camouflage.
I mean, hit and run is the normal way of playing Lesley in the first place lol
@@Unforgiving_Eye right
Lesley was really good and can play in any kind of matches. If enemies got lot of squishies heroes, she can 1-2 shot u. If enemies got lot of tanky heroes, she can poke u to death. Even with high hp items, the enemies can't survive the damage output.
She should have a high winrate then?
@@1wb1 most people dont even know how to use her or they are just mediocre at the game
People just sucks at playing her just because she got true damage doesn't mean she is a early game monster and people plays lesley super aggressive so thats why her wr is lower in legend and all ranks
@@Ilovetoticklepeoplestip Lesley really rely on positioning and fast reaction. If u cant master this both that mean u can't see Lesley true pontential
@@1wb1 Playing Lesley require you to keep your distance at all times, even more aware of the map (where the enemy heroes is), pick when to battle and when to farm cause you need items ASAP. Her skill is easy to use, but her playstyle is hard.
is magic shoes really good on her right now rather than swift boots?
Imo for the last item a defensive item like immortality would be better than giving 2 bod , since having immortality will prevent u from enemies trying to one shot u.
Heres a build i use to actually have a balance between push and killing also what spell i use
Swift Boots
Berserker Blade
Windtalker
Wind Nature
Immortality
Blade of Despair
Spell : Sprint
For fast movement and evation also to quickly get to a team battle from far away
Tbh, I would choose Blade of Heptaseas over Windtalker any day. If you are reading the patch notes, they nerfed her critical damage to 140% similar to Ling. But in return she will convert any fixed point of Physical Penetration to 0.5% Critical damage. BoH combined with the unique passive of Berserker's Fury can get her Crit damage back to 200+ percent. Plus the bonus passive of BoH. This two shots most Marksmen and Mages. 😌👌
her range is what makes her deadly
I hate Lesley and would 100% ban her but I don’t hate her enough to leave Martis or Leomord open.
I used leslie today and i can guarantee that the nerf/adjustment hasn’t effected her damage that much. She’s op
I've been using Lesley as my main since the release in 2018.
I can tell you that this hero is only usable in low rank games back in the days (even before the new revamp), plus the burst items for MMs especially atk speed and crit with malefic only works for her. With her capabilities, one only lacks and it's her mobility (I can tell that even today..) The time this hero has been recognized after the Gusion and Lesley update, seeing the revamped version with new meta items for her was game changing. Even tho I never expected any potential from Lesley after her first nerf way back before and then to think that this hero would get this far is truly amazing and gave every Lesley mains an uprising. The scariest thing about this hero is that it's already scary enough when you know how to execute her mechanics in the right manner, making it much more deadlier if you're experienced enough and mastered the hero.
She's a tanks worst nightmare, Demon Hunter Sword is one thing to watch out for marksmans, but having an instant true damage when she does her passive and it crits, yeah you could say that armor is useless against her especially in late game.
For me,she mainly works great against tanky line ups.
first thing you must do while using Lesley, be patient, find the right moment, that's what i do, I also use Dire hit on her
I dont use wind talker, but use Double BoD on her
Dire Hir for Lesley is very op BUT only for late game. For early is hard.
@@abdulmuizz4927 what's dire hit?
@@toilet_paper_man2064 roam, advised to use when you are friends with the tank so you dont slow down his roam
@@toilet_paper_man2064 A roaming blessing where it deals hybrid damage when the target reaches a certain current HP percentage. Recommended for roamers that can do good damage like Natalia, Franco, Grock, JS, Popol and Kupa and even Julian.
@@alemansprototypeguy thank u
3 taps you
first time you chase her she has second skill
second time she'll use second skill
third time you caught her she'll flicker
nxt time she'll first skill and kite
nxt time she has backup
once you run away she'll ult you to death fuck is that so op
On my way to Mythic rank for using Lesley as a main hero. As long as you play safe and conserve the early game, and gather your core items, it would be very easy for you to deal a good amount of damage just by pre to mid-game.
No one use her passive converting penetration to crit damage 😑 you think dev will adjust this?
Tips:
1. always consider cs than to poke enemies in early - pre mid game
2. maximize passive at all premises
3. build windtalker, berseker fury and blade of despair for powerspike in mid game
4. map awareness is a must and always be distance from enemies
Actually she doesn't need windtalker cuz that gives only criti chance, movement spd and atk spd
instead I always use another bod for burst true dmg
I always go
boot, berserker fury, bod, endless battle(most players use endless battle as second item before bod but it's passive comes from hero's basic atk dmg and without bod, the true dmg form endless battle will be less at early game), another bod or immortal or athena shield other defend item if the enemies are too dangerous, and another bod.
so my full dmg build is
boot, fury, bod, endless, bod, bod
@@rem_lesley windtalker is good for early game since you need fast clear and movement speed to escape potential ganks. Then sell for other bod in the late game
THANKS FOR MAKING IT CLEAR ,BIG RESPECT FOR YOU
6:41 rip maniac. You can use your first skill during lesley ult to incre her damage
Honestly I think if they just made it so her true damage can’t crit she would be more balanced as it stands only viable way to deal with late game lesley it to kill her before she can attack
She is the best mm in late game , she can't be killed by fighters so jungler fighter is so dead in late game, also she eat tanks alive, her hit hurts the most, she is a letterly beast
Need fast streak assasin to hunt her down
When ever i play assasin and jungle i just focus to kill Lesley as far as i can
0:30
This literally explain the popularity.
High damage in mid-late game, with medium damage/poke ability in early game. With no way to reduce her damage (except Blade armor maybe), it's not really surprising that she became that popular.
Not only that, her kit is one of the perfect (?) kit for newbies. 1st skill to escape/chase, 2nd skill to defend herself when enemies gets too close (new mm players have this problem), and a big maphack ultimate with low cooldown.
Blade armor can't reduce her damage
@@Hndlse it can.
@@SMARTA69 how
6:23 kinda OP, Lesley's passive. It negated wind chant
User her passive bullet before using 1 skill so you’ll reset it’s CD. That way you can abuse her passive.
It was painful to is the nerf of lesley for me but her true damge is just amazing i think we can use a tank lesley .
Can you try my no boots build with assassin emblem on +movement and +cd reduction, then add windtalker and hunter strike?
lesly can actually can most ults with her 2nd skill which makes her a viable pick on most occasions and honestly, Elgin could've used 2nd while claude is near to cancel it and render enemy's ults useless. Another one is tigreal's ult
I suggest build berserker first and then windtalker, you can give significant damage early with berserker. And farm faster later with windtalker.
It's better to built endless battle first and bring inspire for more damage
Me who built BoH in Lesley first:
Honestly, it's better to build Endless Battle first to further increase her life steal in the early game (mm emblem's and Endless Battle's lifesteal) + gives her the ability to double true damage poke.
Guys, Lesley got nerf on her critical damage by -60%. Every hero got basic critical damage on 200%, while Lesley only 140%.
That's why berserker is a must item early.
@@SixthGuns I mean, you'll eventually get Berserker in the mid game so you might as well give her a little bit of offense (EB' passive) and defense (EB' lifesteal) in the early game. She doesn't need Berserker as her first item because you'll not going to use her aggressively in the early game to begin with unless you have a good teammates.
If you want to add more damage from your SS just click 1st kill 👍
What really made Lesley a top-tier pick is because of that guaranteed true damage on her passive and 1st skill. The damage cannot be countered except by using a hero like Lolita, or an item that gives high HP like Guardian Helmet which is not really a recommended item when using a squishy hero. It cannot be countered by Wind of Nature too which is very important to Marksmans. She is like one of the four heroes who does not get affected by the wind of Nature (her, Natan, Kimmy, Edith) but the other 3 can be countered by Radiant Armor.
Natan is based on her build either physical or mage build. You forgot Karrie also can ignored Wind of Nature
I picked lesley when enemy picked wanwan since windtalker won't affect lesley's dmg anymore lol... I got savage in late game and i always wait for wanwan to appear and 2 shots her with my basic atk. Also i was in a trio with my bros so my early got a little bit better than usual. But enemy is also in trio so...
My build is...
Speed boots
Berserker Fury
BOH
Endless Battle
BOD
Hunter Strike (optional) for sure 2 shot of every mm without hp def
I think they should revamp her legend skin because her annual star light skin is much cooler 😎 in all terms of skill and effects
For more damage use blade of hepatsea as a last item instead of the double sword item.
I'm usually a roam(tank) or fighter player but after so many games where I've gotten poked to death by lesley's 2k true damage basic attacks, i started using her.
Or ban her😂
The only thing that can take her out are other one shoters like clint and broody... i prefer broody because of the stun while clint's rly poke is too fun..
Correct me if im wrong lesley 2nd skill can cancel claude's ult
Even there's no Revamp Lesley she is a Monster, when Used it safely and properly, with a Good tank and Core support on the lane. She can still be Deadly in late game. This patch just made her easier to master.
Everytime i play lesley i always get pounced and stuck with a shitty team so i cant rank up with her anymore
I had problems dealing with her in the early game but when I built Haas Claw on my Bea and Hunter Strike, life became easy
Picker her when the enemy team is just pure tank builds or too tanky
Just pick Lesley
Sure you can pick other tank killers like Claude
But Lesley has true dmg,which ignores the shield
Ang superb ng background music haha
As much as I hate her rn, I think she kinda deserve this spotlight people are finally taking her seriously before people joked about her being an epic hero now people are finally showing some respect to lesley
I have 78% wr with Lesley, but Lesley is only effective if you know how to position yourself properly and more importantly if your tank is experienced unless you're pretty much dead. Playing SOLO side lanes below mythical glory is literally the riskiest job in the team, you can't expect your jungler to gank your lane, you can't expect your tank to gank your lane, you can't expect the same in your mage too on the other hand the opponent's rotation would make you rage quit, Noobton's matchmaking system sucks.
No its hardly noticeable because she can just get more cd items and it stil a fast cooldown on her first skill shes almost always in stealth and to overpowerd because of her true damage i would rather have it that they removed the 40% movement speed boost on her first skill so people can actually catch up with her there are only certain heroes who can kill her that are ether high mobility or assassin like cyclops ling fanny and eurdora if she able to get in range to throw her stun and ult and maybe aamon with his ult when he has enough shards.
The dmg is just the main issiue its to overpowerd because its true dmg wich can hit for 2k and more of true dmg late game wich is way to much sinds you cant build anything to stop the true dmg i would say give her a fixed percentage of true dmg that doesnt scale with equipment to make her more balanced so for instance 600 true dmg at max level and the rest physical she still would be strong just not overpowerd like now.
Hope we get the new map soon and permanent the jungle part looks darker and its amazing
They should revert lesley as the previous patch in which only crit that deals true damage, thats far more balanced lesley that we still can counter using an item like blade armor and HP based armor
But tbh, it was intentional for the devs to make her passive deal true DAMAGE from just critical hits to EVERY TIME HER PASSIVE ACTIVATES. It's their attempt to buff her early game but nerf her late game.
Lesley 1 skill can prevent you from Claude ult
she's not too strong nor too weak. i'll say she's like yu zhong, a balanced and fun pick. she can deal good damage while it does fall behind the dps heroes like miya, clint, beatrix etc etc. to counter her, pick belerick cuz he has way too high hp even for true damage or ruby to cc lock her to death. people might whine that she's 'op' but she's really not. if you know how she works she's just another Layla with different stuff
Open your eyes........ The heck not too strong or too weak. Her damage is TOO STRONG.Tank also cant defend from her insane damage.
@@abdulmuizz4927 even tanks have no chance against MMs like Miya and Wanwan or even Moskov?? almost all MMs can melt tanks in late game so how is that a problem to lesley?
@@abdulmuizz4927 lol epical glory
Gap closers like Baxia, Khufra, Chou, Lance and others: Are you sure about that?
Lesley is the most op mm now. Her true dmg makes it impossible to counter her, and wind of nature wont do anything.
The only way to counter her is to either have something to completely negate dmg, or have high hp. Even blade armour wont do much, since its only for the crit dmg reduction
No blade armour doesnt do anything only for regulair crits the true dmg crit wil still do the full dmg of the crit because the crit is true dmg high hp isnt a counter at all if she can true dmg you dead with 4 shots of true dmg so dont say having high hp is a counter because it isnt played tank and there is no item you can get to counter lesley you stil die as a tank.
Only way to kill her are assassins with high burst dmg gusion saber aamon she nevers survives gusion blades nor the ult of saber if she doesnt have purify or wind of nature and last aamon only way she can save herself is by getting winter truncheon because once aamon throws his ult and has 18 shards your dead i know because i play aamon and i always throw my ult on those annoying lesley and seen a guy who played lesley i throwed my ult on him he tried going into stealth thinking it would chance the outcome buth nope i ulted him 3 or 4 times 4 time i just saw him he accpted his fate and theres nothing he vould do buth die 🤣🤣
I'm sorry but it's not, even if her damage is high, if someone catches her she will die in less than 1 second. And most Lesley players don't build wind of nature, so everyone can kill her easily. She is very weak.
Basically a walking turrent even if I go leo or Martis tank build I can't get close to her during late game and in 2 shots I lost almost half my health even with full tank build there's legit no counter
One hero that counters this annoying new version of Lesley
Helcurt easy surprise attack, Lesley will never get you if your always going after her
Once night time falls, Every Lesley will hide.
Yes lesley high damage is To op,but it doesn't bother me much....his second skill make me annoy since I play thamuz in most of ranked game...when i'm trying To kill her she use his second skill And run With his first skill,when I am trying To run she Chase me back...when I am trying To attach her she use his first skill And i cant attack her
The other mm are. Not currently good enough to replace lessly
I'm not that good of a player but i got her at 80% wr in rg this season. I just wish they don't nerf her first skill effect which makes her immune to the auto aim skills like claude's ult, etc.
Lesley also can counter wind chant because she deal true damage
Me build: 4 BOD, Endless, and B.fury - no boots
Her damage is fine, dont nerf the damage, the only thing that could make her balance is the energy consumption of the skill and the energy recharge, make it high use of energy and longer time energy recharge
Not exaggerating but what do u mean "her damage is fine" when she literally shreds tanks late game easily literally just poke and poke at the back and ur gonna have a head start on team fights, her dmg is too strong
@@ddsxdffff4704 so does any other mm, just make it less available so it not over powered, now lesley can use her skill so fast, energy aint concern as other hero such as hayabusa or ling and fanny
@@honesty_and_beyond" so does any other mm" wanwan can't even shred tanks easily plus she gets easily shut down by Lesley in late game if lesley caught her off guard
@@ddsxdffff4704 wan wan was nerfed, before this update she get all the spotlight, she can 1 v 5 on single ulti, just let this lesley spotlight shine until the nerf train hit, dont be selfish, almost all mm got his spotlight like claude, brody, granger, wanwan, nathan, iritel,
Only layla, lesley, bruno, karrie( not the early season) are less popular and dont even get spotlight yeah and dont forget hanabi
I consider her to be a minion with crit dmg in early game. Realy useless in team fight or clearing wave. A Melissa or a Clint can easily turn her into a true minion.
if lesley use the wind chant, they'll be minnions too.
@@rem_lesley if she build wind of nature early game, she will have zero to non damage. If she buy it late game, well, the game is already over
It's hard to counter lesley with items because armor has no effect. And it's not that easy to catch her.
Not the best, but if teammates can protect her from early until end of game, she is unbeatable. Her damage in late game is insane !!! And with true damage, WON is useless when other marksmen 1 by 1 with her.
She's the best right now (wanwan might be but she's still banned most of the time) even when she barely have any dashes , her 2nd skill and camouflage is a good escape and ganking tool plus u can maximize her dmg easily even if ur far since her passive range is pretty long, she also have a free vision which is her ult plus her true dmg that shreds tanks easily and even surprise Squishies, she's definitely so good right now I can sense a nerf but I can see why she will get nerfed
Even Assassins like Fanny, Gusion, Ling having trouble with her in lategame
Nah, the nerf isn't that big. She's still strong af
Just farm boots and straight BOD. You will have a smoother transition from early to mid to late.
FYI lesley's second skill can cancel clause's ultimate...
Nope me Lesley main I don't think her popularity will end end
0:58 Dudde dont tell me hes playin Call of Duty
I'm still using irithel no matter what
Full true damage conversion is too much. Converting only a portion of damage to true would probably make her balanced.
There's still 4 mm that are on equal with Lesley.beatrix Clint Layla and wanwan
What I like about Lesley now is her early game too, she can now poke her lane counterpart easier, making it easier to farm. I also like her new Crit True Damage passive that made her extremely well at demolishing Tank or Tanky heroes. IMO my Build on Lesley varied too, I use WoN rather than Endless if they have too many physical heroes.
Lesley is not a mid to late game hero now she is late game monster but upto mid its so tough......
Just playing Lesley today I got 3 back to back maniacs, Didn't get a savage because some of my teammates are Ks Legends , (I'm not joking) she's very popular
Maybe yes, maybe not. Since I see miya more pick and more pick lesley aswell. So yeah, she is.
You can literally bully Miya in the early game and delay her farm using Lesley. Lesley is stronger than Miya in the early game poke battle.
She's the most picked coz she's not always banned
I hope they allow to work windchant to other marksman if they hit by lesley to be fair :))
Lesley's so good now that I went from 69% to 71% winrate
Clint and kimmy are the most dangerous marksmen too.
Actually balanced na sya okay na yung true damage passive one thing na mgpapacounter sa kanya ay ang baugin sya at gank kasi kung objective lang priority wala kwento si lesley. Nanerf na nga sya kaya balanced na sya. Kaya lang sya nagiging top tier ngayon at umaangat kasi nga sa bago nya passive syempre item reliant parin naman syam di naman sasakit yan kung di nabibigyan ng item. Tsaka wala sya pantakas unless sa sprint or flicker kaya all in all goods sya.
Ps. Kasi umaabot ng 2.5k dati passive Crit True Damage nya dati e nung unang labas tas unang buff sabay nerf so rare na sya mag 2k dpende sa item mo na bibilhin ayun langs.
If the dmf is normal dmg is ok. But change it to true dmg? Late game she can hit 1. 5k++ per hit of true dmg. Tanks? Pffftt. Hit and run 3 times then its over for tanks.
Lesley when picked then: Lesley? Don't troll!
Now: She is the Messiah!
Currently the best mm against mm.
As long as you know how to position yourself in a clash, you wont be killed.
Glass cannon tbh.
Not the best for me, she's easy to counter
@@leonmystique9372 can literally 2shot a non-tank build mm and just use ulti for secure. I can just tower hug if it's 2v1 or ask a gank from the jungler. End game I just spoke anyone within the range as have my team do the chase or clean up.
Lesley is basically just like old sniper beatrix, but better now......which is annoying because squishy heroes literally gets deleted in late game.
Y'all know that lesley's first skill can enhance his 3rd skill while using it right?
DLQ33 🤣🤣 nice, i often use attack speed boots instead of cd, and if need be replace a bod or windtalker with wind chant.
Also i would've priorotized better positioning rather than a defense item, because why need armor if you dont plan on getting hit?
In the old times I can't pick Lesley because she was weak. Now I can't pick Lesley because she always being banned by enemies.
how is 2k true damage balanced?
The simple solution is just gank the heck out of Lesley in the early game or at the very least delay her farm as much as possible. You don't want her getting her core items in the mid game.