What "modern mathematics"?The Achilles and The Tortoise paradox which Gojo uses a reference for his infinity was created in like 400 BC. Math is really old.
@@caliqm2199 Of Course! But our understanding of things such as Non-euclidian and 4D Geometry is much more recent. Also I'm not sure people several centries ago in Japan would have even heard of Zenos Paradox.
@@QuazarNovaPrime because the modern gojo clan is carried almost exclusively by Satoru and it's not a great idea to keep going into the past for half of the story but yeah ig we could've gotten a little more
I agree with almost everything exept for one thing, gojo only was really put in a tight spot once in his life, vs the most unlikely enemy ever, someome with no cursed energy, this was when gojo awakened and from this point onward we know gojo trained hard, by the time his fight with toji ended he was already the most powerfull human being in japan, later in the manga we see him showing respect for toji saying the last time he felt like he might lose, was when he fought toji, i think after their fight gojo learned a lesson and trained like never before in case someone as strong has him appeared
Exactly. I can't remember where in the manga but it was clearly said the gap between Gojo, the strongest in the modern era, and whoever the next strongest after him is (Sukuna is not a modern sorcerer so i'm not accounting for him) is very large compared to Sukuna, who was the strongest in the Heina era, and whoever the next strongest after him was. This is because the quality of the average sorcerer has greatly diminished. So someone born with Gojo's talent in an era where the majority of Sorcerers are weaker CAN'T be challenged as, say, Sukuna was during the golden age of Jujutsu. Gojo works hard not cause he has competition but because he naturally has a huge passion for learning Jujutsu. He is a Jujutsu junkie. Some people like cars, some football but Gojo, he lives for Jujutsu. Don't know what this youtuber is doing telling people Gojo was training hard to keep up with competition. What competition? Gojo is a product of immense talent falling on someone with immense passion in the field of said talent. He worked hard not because of some external incentive. He just loves "magic".
@@everdream4200I think the TH-camr meant for the “potential” challenge. Toji rocked his world, and GoJo, in his Education knew that the ten shadows has the potential to surpass him. So he didn’t have a a known competition, but he had potential competition that he could have been preparing for. Not 100% just for the love of it.
@@everdream4200okay the issue with your hypothesis about Gojo is that he wasn't technically standing on his own as "STRONGEST" until after Toji. Before Toji technically I believe he was grade 1 like Geto and Nanami. He was just the strongest Grade 1. So the other top tier grade 1s like Geto could've technically taken him out if they were to fight to the death. (Ofc I believe Gojo would've smacked Geto back then too.) But there would still be Yuki, Tensen, Kenjaku, etc that would've been stronger. You gotta remember that when they were in school Gojo and Geto considered each other equals meaning that technically teen Gojo should be well under Yuta in JJK0 and we all know there were ppl that could've taken out Yuta at that point. So basically anyone who could've taken out JJK0 Yuta can take out teen Gojo. Thus the need for training. Don't get me wrong tho you're very right about him being a jujutsu nerd and being passionate about it and that giving him more drive to figure out everything and train his technique and stuff.
Unlike hardwork vs Talent, JJK brings a new thing which is Gifted vs Talented.... Take Gojo for example, he is gifted at birth with the Six Eyes and limitless but is also equally talented to bring out their full potential.... Then take Megumi whose talent is above but is far more gifted with the CT he got...... Take Higuruma for example who is said to be as Talented as Gojo but isn't the most Gifted one..... Takaba probably highlights the difference between Talent and Gift the best.....
Ummm......Sir.......Megumi is a 15 yr old kid 😭😭🤌🏻 !!! And he already have a domain expansion (not complete but still )........the Gojo that u saw in his flashback and which didn't even have domain and other things....was 17 !!!!!! Megumi when he comes back ...will be way stronger than a 17 yr old Gojo.....lol
@@zoropiratehunter4103 the only reason why megumi has a domain was literally because his life was on the line and it was either that or death. When gojo is finally pushed for the first time to the brink of death, he learns rct and proceeds to effortlessly dodge toji (the guy that bodied megumi) and one shot him with purple
@@zoropiratehunter4103 I didn't say he isn't talented, I meant to write "above most of the characters" but mistakenly wrote "above" but the theme surrounding Megumi has always been about him not being able to realize the full potential of his CT because of his mindset so I put him in more gifted than talented
@@drsh1711 Yeah that is a good point. He has a tendency to be resourceful and take advantage of external circumstances during fights rather than his own innate potential, like when he used the building to contain his incomplete domain. "Talented" sorcerers like Gojo straight up improve their techniques as they battle
There are two possibilities : 1. It's either a teen gojo with no rct against a Megumi like suicidal zenin clan member 2. Or it's an awakened 6 eyes limitless user who destroyed all 9 shadows and the maho summoned in the ritual after that was a maho totality (*we already saw how the divine dogs went from barely grade 1 to special grade level) if 1 shadow = 1f(*special grade) then that maho totality would've been 18-19f as maho at base is easily 8-9f (*higher than jogo)
@@DzinkyDzink when activated as a technique? Yes. But the 9 tamed shadows that have been destroyed can't just disappear into the Abyss, their powers are passed down to the next summon which creates the possibility of an untamed maho totality being summoned as a ritual. (*According to the timeline the gojo clan member was 48-51 yrs old when he and the zenin clan member died and it's kinda hard to believe that gojo won't have learned rct by then)
@@nerrick9602 yeah, but it's needed to make the red and purple and someone knew and created them. I am assuming it's the progenitor of the clan suguwara michizane as the first/progenitor is almost always the strongest in anime. Apart from him maybe others didn't have rct. Kenjaku was a kamo so a teen gojo might've defeated him, makes sense.
Correction, we only know of one other person with the limitless + six eyes other than gojo, the clan head gojo was telling megumi about. Every time kenjaku was defeated in the past it was by a six eyes user. Which means that they had a completly different technique paired with the six eyes which is pointed out by the fact that gojo is the first sorcerer in 400 years with the six eyes + limitless combo.
I think they meant just six eyes users, and we know three of them. 1. Head of the clan, who died in a fight, against Zenin clan head, who also died. 2. The newborn user of the six eyes, who was killed by Kenjaku right after his born (also he killed Star Plasma Vessel after their born as well) 3. Another six eyes user, that was born right after the one, that was killed by Kenjaku, but was kept in secret, until the "Star Plasma Vessel merge day"
I think the reason gojo was the strongest 6E/limitless user is because the others didn’t have anyone like toji to push them to reach that level. I hope we get a flashback of some other user maybe the two who defeated kenny and or vs the 10S user
The only thing gojo is adding to limitless six eyes is the auto rct Everything else was already done before Wether it was on the same level of power is doubtful but there were limitless users with rct ctr and hollow
@@blu3d3vil97there could be more We saw him moving so fast he was producing after images Also his infinity is also on auto so that may be a new addition
Commented befire watching: Gojo beat Mahoraga while getting jumped by a Chimera Shikigami and sukuna and still managed to obliterate him, while the last gojo clan member before him with 6eyes and limitless died in mutual combat to a 10 shadows user which means he may habe been killed by that users mahoraga
Correction: Gojo did not just beat Mahoraga while getting jumped by a Chimera Shikigami and sukuna, he beat a Mahoraga that was fully adapted to Infinite void and blue and partially adapted to red before fully manifesting. If an untamed Mahoraga showed up, Gojo would have one shotted him with Red
@@ambinintsoahasina Note that, Gojo here knows EVERYTHING about Mahoraga Put Gojo against Mahoraga, without Any information He'd have a lot of trouble defeating him. Sure domain expansion can handle that, but Mahoraga can pretty much adapt anything except Infinity void because it's literally one shot. I believe the head of Gojo did not know anything bout maho.
@@majhianinana5637 uhmmm you have a point. Gojo knew we need to destroy Maho before it gets adapted. I think even Infinite void alone cannot kill Maho as we saw Gojo trying to destroy it with red before it gets adapted with Infinite Void. Sukuna is genius in observation so he deduced fast that Mahoraga needs to be killed by another technique before it's finished adapted with the current one. I don't know if Gojo can deduce it by himself. I guess so but it would take Hollow Purple also. As he would try red then blue and deduce the adaptation
The thing to note is AT minimum: 1) Gojo surpasses all prior 10 shadow users (Due to being able to defeat Mahoraga - A feat no prior 10 shadow users could do - WHILE fighting Sukuna and Agito.) Furthermore this Mahoraga was tamed - Theoretically increasing the challenge from a exorcism ritual Mahoraga. 2) Gojo AT MINIMUM surpasses the prior limitless user who tied with the prior 10 shadows user. So basically - Unless the 6 eyes user that tied with the 10 shadows user was exceptionally incompetent Gojo is exceptional compared to prior 6 eyes users. If we are to believe the potential of the limitless is comparable to the potential of the 10 shadow CT (likely not the case) then Gojo is extremely exceptional compared to his predecessors.
I think a couple of the 6 Eyes users couldn’t learn RCT and finish their full CT due to limitless. It seems hard to learn how to heal your self with theory when they’ve probably never been hurt. Gojo only learned it at deaths door and he has been one of the most talented sorcerers of all time.
Gege can still make some arcs after jjk is finished about some of gojo clan, zenin clan and kamo clan pasts. It would be cool to see which clan is stronger in which era.
I was lowkey hoping to see a limitless+six eye user resurrected for the culling game. Secondly, I really hope Gege does light novels in the future, or has approves of someone else talented enough writing light novels with super vision
@@moriyoukai2076 I know and Kenjaku dislikes six eye users, so he'd never make that deal with them, but I kinda still wanted to see it and I think fans would've enjoyed seeing another limitless six eye user just to have someone to compare Gojo to directly.
He couldn't either way. Only one six eye user at a time. When one dies the other will be immediately born. The one in Kashimo period is the one that taught how to use blue, hallow purple and all that other stuff. For that he had to have rct because you can't use red without it. @@CoolOkay_
@@sky-oq5mr I think I forgot about that, though I feel like they'd be smart enough to use their technique from sheer memory. Ya'know, ever had to navigate your own house in the dark? You can't see it anymore but you know where everything's at approximately, that's how I'd assume it'd be like.
Important to note that Gojo mentions that "scant few know about hollow purple" meaning that at least 1 if not more limitless+six eyes user has discovered and used RCT, red, and hollow purple. The main difference would be if that person trained further to gain their Domain expansion, rct brain refresh, and teleportation with blue.
He is obviously. It's based on how the clan system works. Basically the previous users pass down their knowledge to the next one, making it easier for them by not having to invent the technique or application of the technique. Also the clans keep knowledge of certain things especially the arsenal of the rival clan like the Zenin. The user who died to the 10S user during the Edo period fight most likely encountered Mahoraga for the first time, and figured out its abilities too late. However, since the fight was spectated, they took down notes, so that the next user knows how to deal with Mahoraga. Same thing with hollow purple, Satoru didn't have to invent it, he just has to train to do it since the groundwork has been laid out for him by previous users.
Nah he definitely has talent Bro learned rct mere moments before death and then immediately after created hollow purple without ever doing it before since he didn’t have red before Yuta is mainly gifted in terms of ce amount And higuruma, he’s pretty talented considering everything he could do in a couple of months
Gojo didn’t learn hollow purple from any guides. He didn’t have access to curse reversal red until he learned RCT. And he used purple immediately after in his 2nd fight with toji. Safe to say he taught himself how to do hollow purple in a matter of moments.
Since we know there have been cases where there have been previous six eyes users without infinity, I'd love to see what they were like Maybe some of them had a different curse technique that they could constantly spam thanks to the six eyes I like the idea of taking the six eyes and giving them to someone with construction technique, so the huge CE cost is mitigated. Though, that has likely never happened before as these are techniques associated with two entirely separate clans.
I Also want to just point out that EVEN THOUGH we fans all assume mahoraga killing the Zenin clan leader and one of the previous Limitless+Six eyes user actually happened, its very possible it straight up didnt. Gojo NEVER said they both died to mahoraga, he ONLY told megumi they both died in a fight with eachother. Megumi said he *GUESSES* that the 10 shadows user summoned mahoraga for the ritual, but megumi does NOT know that, and therefore neither do we.
It will be a lot cooler if an awakened six eyes user got killed by a full potential 10S user *without* Mahoraga, revealing the true power of the technique
It will be a lot cooler if an awakened six eyes user got killed by a full potential 10S user *without* Mahoraga, revealing the true power of the technique
@@kaizen2840 dont know why i never saw this reply, but its the most likely scenario in YOUR eyes maybe. But even gojo explains the situation as megumi’s potential, NOT as a suicidal kill your self thing. This would stand to reason that he believes the ten shadows user was just that powerful, especially if he was telling Megumi that he could surpass himself
@@cooldes4593 It's the most likely scenario based on what the statements and events have been in the manga, aka, what the author implies. I am just stating the, clearly, most likely answer based on the facts and not a straight up headcanon.
I have a question. How would limitless look without the 6 eyes? Is it completely usless? Or some techniques can still be used but are much less refined and drain much more CE, like blue,infinity and maybe red (if the sorcerer can use RCT), but purple being completely impossible without 6 eyes. It would make sense since all except purple are so widely known by the sorcerer community.
U cant make precise control of limitless without six eyes U are limited to just throwing blues reds and purple No multi blue, no teleport, no blue on yourself to increase speed
I just assumed that the previous 6eyes limitless user didn't know what Mahoraga did like Sukuna didn't when he first fought Mahoraga. Gojo in his fight with Mahoraga intentionally held back using certain techniques to make sure Mahoraga didn't adapt. Gojo went in with information that no previous user had which allowed him to win.
I’d actually like to ask you who you’d think would win between a fully realized Mahito vs a fully realized Megumi. Yano’s now the the Sukuna vs Gojo debate is over
Megumi All he needs is to touch mahito once with the wheel active then wait a bit and mahoraga adapts and no diffs Or ya know,mahoraga one taps mahito with the positive energy blade that one shots curses
@@blu3d3vil97 idk I feel it would be more complicated then that, because a fully realized mahito could arguably have the ability to kill mahoraga before he adapts, and yeah I didn't think about the curse killing blade but still I think you could argue either way and kt could be a fun discussion
@godofmisfortune992 ofc it wont be just as i said, but that was a simplifcation Besides fully realized mahito doesn't mean much when he already fully realized himself in shibuiya and he doesn't stand much of a chance against mahoraga And IT wouldn't actually kill mahoraga(it could change his body but will still be alive, then wheel adapts and he recovers from IT) nor does any of mahito's attacks actually have the destructive power like the fire arrow or purple
@@blu3d3vil97 he 100% didn’t fully reach his potential in Shibuya. I genuinely believe at the rate he was growing a fully realized Mahito could become the next sukuna, tho obviously this is after years and years. But that’s why I think it’s interesting. I believe Mahito could become the next Sukuna and Megumi could surpass gojo.
@godofmisfortune992 thing is, mahito ct is limited more than sukuna's ironically and same for megumi's ct compared to gojo's Mahito's ct is not strong when it comes to actually damage and destruction and megumi's ct seems limited in how strong the ct in itself is Both are based around hax at the apex of their ct Mahito becomes so much weaker if he cant just negate your dmg Has no purple or fire arrow or uzumaki or things like that His domain is completely countered by SD or DA and because its not an attack it cant break the SD or overpower DA like red/purple/dismantle did in gojo vs sukuna And yes mahito did get his potential He had everything about his ct except maybe a maximum that would be weaker than his domain What u are referring to is giving mahito stat boosts to make him faster stronger durable than he ever showed Megumi's ct had sukuna, the literal biggest ce pool ever to buff his shadows and they were still almost fodder compared to gojo and sukuna So after a point the shadows cant even keep up with their user The user himself doesn't get mahoraga's adaptation so any time any adaptation can fail if the opponent gets the user Mahito and megumi while pretty high potential wouldn't reach the godly status of gojo and sukuna Ten shadows was literally given the strongest character as its user and an extra domain and still failed to beat limitless as mahoraga and agito got defeated and if it wasn't for a seccond ct there wouldn't have existed the slash at the end.
I guess the current iterration of Kenjaku is the strongest he has ever been. We know that when he was talking to Kashimo in the past, he himself said he is not very strong currently, and we also know that Kenjaku directly stated he has been waiting for someone like Geto to appear so that he could take their body. From this we can safely assume that current Kenjaku in Geto's body is the strongest he has ever been, or at the very least stronger than his Kashimo-Era version. We also know Gojo is much stronger than Kashimo. If Kenjaku doesn't even believe he can beat an old Kashimo, yet he chose to try and face a 6-eyes user, all the while completely avoiding Gojo and being scared shitless of him, we can safely assume Gojo is much stronger than the two 6-eyes users that defeated Kenjaku. We also know that Sukuna did not know about Limitless + 6 Eyes as he is surprised by Gojo's ability when he first fights him (1 finger), and Sukuna is from 1000 years ago. Gojo is the first 6 eyes+limitless user in 400 years, and we know they are super rare and only appear every few hundred years. If you are very generous and say that they appear every 150 years, and the 400 year stretch before Gojo was just an unlucky stretch, that'd only be 5 total Limitless+6 Eyes users in all of history, including Gojo (600 years since Sukuna's time before Gojo's 400-year stretch of no Limitless+6Eyes user, one each 150 years making 4, and Gojo adding up to 5. If they only appear every 300 years for example, Gojo would only be the 3rd ever user). And we also know that at least one of them is weaker than Gojo, the one that lost to Mahoraga. That only leaves a maximum of 3 other users, and two (that a weaker Kenjaku felt confident challenging) were also likely weaker. (We also know that not everyone that has limitless+6 eyes unlocks Purple, as only a "scant few" people in the clan know about it, in Gojo's words) This leads me to believe that Gojo is indeed the strongest Limitless + 6 Eyes user in history. The only potential other candidate would be whoever discovered Purple, however it's often the case that someone getting a "tutorial" guide about a technique and then having time to train with it, will surpass the original creator, as they don't need to spend years trying to create a technique and instead can spend their time refining it. And I think there's a reason Gege hasn't bothered to show us the previous 6-eyes users. It'd probably be redundant since Gojo can do everything they can but better, thus vocal exposition from Kenjaku was enough. Plus Gojo is talented af, he was able to use Purple effectively in combat vs a very strong opponent basically as soon as he unlocked Red, and we know that Red is required for Purple meaning that was his first attempt at it ever. This leads me to believe he already had extensive knowledge about how to use Red and Purple very effectively and just needed the RCT unlock. Giving plenty of time to refine both beyond the level of whoever created them.
Gege changed Sukuna's reasoning for wanting Megumi. Originally Fraudkuna was interested in using shadows as a medium for the shikigami but it seems Gege changed it to that he wanted Mommyraga and adaptation after fighting it. Any theories for what Sonkuna could have originally wanted to do with Megumi's 10S? Do you think "using shadows as a a medium" will play a part later or did Akutami Araki forget? Sukuna = Mahommes Mahoraga = Kelce Kenjaku = Andy Reid
a taming ritual only works if the sorcerer who summoned the shadow defeats it solo, you can do the ritual involving another person but the shadow remains untamed, if its another person with heavenly restrictions helping the shadows user it would be pointless, a shadows user with a heavenly restriction themselves could be a thing though.
Also the guy who invented the purple (*and most likely had UV too) can be michizane suguwara aka the progenitor of the gojo and okkotsu clan himself (*he was present in the early parts of the heian era so kenjaku probably should know about him (*1500+ yrs old) but he most likely wasn't present in sukuna's time (*although I don't think it'd make much difference)
@@jueviolegrace2546 UV is the inner world of the limitless, I see no reason why another limitless user will have a different domain (*megumi's domain is incomplete so I can't say anything about that but that too in its complete state should be the domain of any 10s user)
@@CzurcodmI know you are referring to what Gojo said but I disagree because I think that's just Gojo's interpretation because it was stated that domains are manifestations of the innate domain. The other evidence of this being sukunas domain and innate domain. If you don't agree fine since we're both guessing anyway and Gege never really answered the question
@@jueviolegrace2546 innate domain? Sukuna has an innate Domain/inner world constructed because his soul is on a completely different level + it was trapped in yuji's body. Not everyone has an innate domain of their souls as Mahito touching the soul is similar to the volume cover of jjk vol 6
@@Czurcodm ok now this is just factually wrong everyone in jjk even non sorcerers each have an innate domain unique to them. It is in no way exclusive to sukuna. So either you don't know, you have forgotten or you just straight up lied. Check the wiki
I feel like not all had a domain or didn't have reverse curse technique and that's pretty big difference in power because those were the two main problems sukuna faced against gojo. Hollow purple and infinite void. Gojo defeated a sukuna tamed mahoraga, so we know he's the strongest six eyes
they always said that megumi had the potential to reach gojo but it just didn’t make sense. they talk about how his cursed energy reserve was huge and he manages to use a sliver of it constantly, but they never talk about megumis cursed energy reserves or anything just the technique. i feel like his reserves has a lot when deciding if he can’t fully reach gojo or not. is he gifted with talent or the potential to work hard for that level or is the technique just good enough to pass him
It’s a mixture of his talent and the technique being so good. Literally the only thing that holds Megumi back is his mindset. He too quick to give up or choose suicide by Mahoraga instead of actually trying to win. That’s why Gojo told him winning by dying and dying to win are two different things. He was basically telling Megumi the way he relies on Mahoraga isn’t something he should take pride in, he shouldn’t count committing suicide just to win as a win. Instead he should aspire to actually dominate his opponent and if he dies in the process then that’s fine because then that means he died fighting with pride and honor.
Short answer yes. Because new gen will have access to information from previous gen. The next six eyes will know what gojo has done and will have access to information of gojo
Talented yes, hard working is a stretch. he was pretty cocky and arrogant up until he almost died to Togi then afterwords he became paranoid causing the upgrade to his limitless.
what if the ten shadows guy was just built diff, like domain expansion completed so when he summons mahoraga along with domain expansion its actually like crazy powerful?
He is easily the strongest in history and it's not close, though it's possible that a previous user (like the one who learned purple) was just born in a different time from Sukuna and was born well before the clash between the Zenin clan and the Gojo clan.
3:47 , i highly doubt Gojo was the only one with those powers to face Sukuna , in their first fight Sukuna instantly recognize there was something more to Gojo than just speed. I wouldnt doubt its from experience
If we put Gojo pre-Toji and Megumi before Sukuna. Well, we would have a technical draw because of Mahoraga. I imagine the result of past users of these techniques must have faced themselves when they were 16 years old. Both inexperienced.
well only six eyes user we see is gojo sooo WE HAVE NOTHIGN TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS STRONGER fomr all that we khow he can even be the weakest but we dont khow beacause we never met someone other with limitless and six eyes
We don't really know how and when the connection between the six eyes and Tengen started. So, apart from maybe the first ever six eyes user, he seems to be the strongest 6E user. Also, I want to point out that we never got a confirmation on how the fight between the clan heads went. The 10S user could have tamed Maho and used it in a strategic way. Maybe the records of the fight got erased due to how destructive the fight was. We shouldn't underestimate the sorcerers of the past either. But for as long as we need to know, the latest users of both techniques seems to be the best so far. Gojo for SE (and limitless). Edit: At first, I wrote the name of the best 10S user, but then I realized some anime-onlies read these comments. 😂
Wrong interpretation . The past six eyes limitless should have been more powerful than you think. Two of them managed to kill Kenjaku a really powerful sorcerer plus Gojo even says that one of the advantage of innate technique is the legacy of your predecessor. They left a lot of writings sharing their experience. Hollow purple for instance was a technique knew by few people in the Gojo clan , that means in the past , there was a six eyes limitless who used it therefore mastering blue and red.Yes I think Gojo is a bit more powerful but not by a large marging
Gojo said it himself sorcerer strength 80% decided technique they're born with so having better CT(talent) more significant than hardworking and someone without CT like kusakabe could never reach those on the top of jujutsu sorcery(special grade)
Ye but Satoru mastered the technique learned rct basically at the peak of jujutsu heck the only thing he doesn't know is to open a barrier less domain and healing others
Vengeful spirits are those that die(seems like typically sorcerers) without cursed energy and emotions are so strong during death that they return as cursed spirits, the three great cursed spirits were three strong sorcerers that came back as spirits(the current three great clans can trace their lineage to one of these), Sukuna is still unknown we don’t know if he was born like that or began ascending into a higher being like tengen after his immense mastery of jujutsu, Rika was turned into a curse by Yuta who he himself is extremely blessed with cursed energy(she is called the queen of curses just because she seemed so powerful and her case was extremely unique). As far as we know Geto has zero connections to the vengeful spirits.
@@neneray310 thank you, I don't know how I had the idea that geto had one of the vengeful spirits in his arsenal of curses before he died. Also I thought Rika is a vengeful spirit since Yuta has a common lineage to Gojo which goes back to one of the original vengeful spirits. Thank you for the explanation 😊
Kashimo period Gojo did have rct. You cant use red without rct that has been explained already. Him awakening rct is what alloeed him to use red and hallow purple. The edo period gojo is the one that made the blue print on it. Now you saying they didnt have as much of a reason to get stronger is wild considering gojo is in the weakest most peaceful era ever.
Ofcourse he is the strongest six eyes and limitless user remember when sukuna put mahoraga inside shadows right away when he first appeared in the fight cause he was sure enough that gojo will kill sukuna with his red alone ? Yeah that's how much powerful his red alone is
I don't think its safe to say he's stronger than the one the 10 shadows user took out, my guess for how it happed is that the limitless user was overwhelmed by an almost fully realised 10 shadows user, their regeneration and ferocity, then they brought out untamed maharaja and overwhelmed the limitless user, that's how I always imagined it
Gojo killed a Mahoraga that was tamed by the strongest sorcerer in history, he literally fought a 3v1 vs RYOMEN SUKUNA and 2 of the strongest shikigami he's built diff
Sukuna when fighting gojo and megumi first time didn't really know about limitless or the ten shadows technique I guess that means that sukuna never fought a ten shadows user and a limitless user in the hein era. But here is the thing that even though the limitless user and 10 shadows user fought each other and were killed in the process why sukuna didn't know about it. i guess one reason could've been that they were not from hein era but since the clan was so well known I think in my opinion if sukuna wanted to be known as a strongest he should have challenged the other limitless user or the 10 shadows user but he didn't neither he tried to know about them . what do you think about this?
I have agree with most, Gojo is definitely the strongest. Simply because he could bend the rules of cursed energy to the point where even sukana started COPYING him. So a human who lived in the GOLDEN AGE of sorcery, copied a tactic that Gojo used. That just confirms to that Gojo is something different
@@at7072 potentially We saw sukuna use it right away vs gojo But angel words leave room for question Also sukuna seemed to know the limit on how many times gojo could heal his burnout Might be he already knew, or after doing it once after seein gojo he could guese a limit on it
@at7072 read my comment more carefully Or maybe u just got the wrong understanding of the manga Sukuna didn't suffer from healing his burnout He healed himself 3 times while gojo did 5 times Gojo was gonna die from domain after 5 burnout heals but sukuna was only at 3 But sukuna got hit by unlimited void and that is the reason sukuna couldn't open his domain
The chapter hasn't happened yet, chill. 😂 Also, to answer your question, it seems like the condition for Yuta to copy a CT is for Rika to eat a body part of the opponent.
Mahoraga as any of the ten shadows are based on their summoner power so we are sure that the mahoraga gojo fought is the strongest in history since its based on sukuna power so i think gojo is the strongest
@@blu3d3vil97 what do you mean no diffrence , the one megumi summoned took alot of time to adapt to sukuna cutting technique which is a simple technique but very powerful in the hands of sukuna and wasnt able to finish bec sukuna finished him with his fire attack while the one sukuna summoned adapted to infinity which is one of the most complexed techniques in a second so there is a huge difference
@yahyaamr2219 buddy U literally got it in the wrong order Sukuna sliced mahoraga 1-2 times and poof one adaptation done Against UV the wheel was constantly hit by uv and adapting in every clash This makes 5 clashes and one of those alone was over 3m of non stop uv Each hit makes the spin faster Against infinity it needed minutes and 8, EIGHT spins for one adaptation No improvements on mahoraga speed or strength were seen either Go read the fukin manga in order not in reverse
@@blu3d3vil97 to adapt to a technique you need to get hit by it and the first time sukuna was hit by infinty was in the fifth domain clash bec the first four it was neutrlized by sukuna domain plus how do you explain nue (the electrical bird) being much larger in size when summoned by sukuna
@yahyaamr2219 buddy Did i ever say every shikigami wasn't changed? I said mahoraga So according to you, u think from the fifth domain to round 2 it was 1sec XD? Buddy, get a grip
2:56 how exactly did he train? Dude realized in a microsecond how RCE and RCT work, even then, dude managed to merge both CT and RCT within 30 minutes of doing said previous accomplishments. Also do you ever see not even Gojo, but any main character train ever? We only see Yuta, and never do we see the likes of Yuji or Megumi lift so much as a stick to train. Even Gojo is just wondering around annoying anyone below his power and coincidentally disappearing until the plot needs him again.
Wasn’t that little pen flipping thing in hidden inventory showing that after a good bit of training, Gojo could flip between red and blue and made auto limitless?
You're so dumb Chapter 76 and 77 is literally gojo talking about and showing the training he did for AN ENTIRE YEAR after his fight with toji And gojo in his death scene also talks about his training throughout his life Sukuna also states that itadori was training in the month to learn RCT and CE manip more
Gojo already knew to do red and purple He just didn't get how to create positive energy Like knowing how to shoot a gun like a navy seal but not how to load it first U cant use it
@kachucho872 ah so u are just stupid Flipping the pen wasn't done for a year as training despite what kids think It was done after a year of training to show how much better gojo's control of blue and red got
@@Theoddfather1017no he been had red but after learning RCT or rather after being nearly killed/killed he understood CE better which allowed him to use it. He tried it against someone while holding riko but he he couldn’t pull it off yet
Let me explain how it works. Blue is a lapse technique, meaning it's an Extension Technique of the Limitless that is powered by Cursed Energy, and it pulls. Red is literally just Blue, but it is powered by the Positive Energy generated by RCT instead of Cursed/Negative Energy. Since it's powered by the inverse of Cursed Energy, it also has an opposite effect, which is the effect to repel, push away. Red is just Blue, but powered by Positive Energy instead of Negative Energy. Satoru didn't know how to do RCT, so he couldn't make Positive Energy, and therefore couldn't do Red, even though previous Limitless users had managed to do it in the past. It wasn't created by Satoru, but he knew about it, he just didn't know how to do RCT to generate the Positive Energy necessary to do it. So yes, he basically "unlocked" Red after learning how to RCT. And now that he had both Blue and Red, he could also do Hollow Purple, since that was also a Technique Lapse a previous Limitless user created in the past that Gojo knew about (even if it's existance was more secretive than Red and Blue's, even the Zen'In and Kamo clans didn't know about it, hence why Hollow Purple caught Toji by surprise and killed him.)
@@Theoddfather1017Gojo learned about Red from reading books the Gojo clan has written over the years about the limitless technique. However, although Gojo knew red existed, he couldnt perform Red because he didnt know how to perform RCT. While protecting Riko, he tried to use Red against the paper bag guy, attempting to see what happens if he tries to perform red without rct, which basically just made a red flashlight that doesnt really do anything. Its not until Gojo figures out RCT that hes finally able to use Red against Toji during their rematch
I’m not sure why we would assume that previous six eyes and limitless owners wouldn’t have access to RCT considering that we know sorcerers were way stronger in the past. Gojo is the "strongest" of one of the weakest eras of sorcery let's not forget that. also, even though Gojo has had a traumatic life, I feel like it would be safe to assume that, considering this is also an error of relative peace, comparatively to the past that other six size and limitless users would have most likely experienced even more trauma, therefore, becoming stronger than him. I honestly don't know where gojo would rank in terms of top gojo clan members and ancestors but I feel like with all the evidence that we have about the world of jjk especiallyin temrs of the relative power levels throughout history that gojo would probably be towards the bottom.
Important to note that Gojo mentions that "scant few know about hollow purple" meaning that at least 1 if not more limitless+six eyes user has discovered and used RCT, red, and hollow purple. The main difference would be if that person trained further to gain their Domain expansion, rct brain refresh, and teleportation with blue.
Gojo Satoru has the major advantage of modern mathematics and theoretical physics.
True, that knowledge did help him better understand his ct
What "modern mathematics"?The Achilles and The Tortoise paradox which Gojo uses a reference for his infinity was created in like 400 BC.
Math is really old.
@@caliqm2199 Of Course! But our understanding of things such as Non-euclidian and 4D Geometry is much more recent. Also I'm not sure people several centries ago in Japan would have even heard of Zenos Paradox.
@@danthespaceman9747you make a good point
@@danthespaceman9747that's why I think modern sorcerers are a bit better than the past (excluding sukuna)
Gege couldve showed the two six eyes user that defeated Kenjaku but I guess Gege said Nah I’d Pacing
Yeah not having constant flashbacks for over half an arc really helps get things moving along
Lmao
Nah I'd rush, not even a single gojo clan member besides Satoru and so many missing interactions and unanswered questions,
@@sniperfity2327unless you have a huge world for the story like it dint go well with naruto rushing the story plot holes left and right
@@QuazarNovaPrime because the modern gojo clan is carried almost exclusively by Satoru and it's not a great idea to keep going into the past for half of the story but yeah ig we could've gotten a little more
I agree with almost everything exept for one thing, gojo only was really put in a tight spot once in his life, vs the most unlikely enemy ever, someome with no cursed energy, this was when gojo awakened and from this point onward we know gojo trained hard, by the time his fight with toji ended he was already the most powerfull human being in japan, later in the manga we see him showing respect for toji saying the last time he felt like he might lose, was when he fought toji, i think after their fight gojo learned a lesson and trained like never before in case someone as strong has him appeared
Exactly. I can't remember where in the manga but it was clearly said the gap between Gojo, the strongest in the modern era, and whoever the next strongest after him is (Sukuna is not a modern sorcerer so i'm not accounting for him) is very large compared to Sukuna, who was the strongest in the Heina era, and whoever the next strongest after him was.
This is because the quality of the average sorcerer has greatly diminished. So someone born with Gojo's talent in an era where the majority of Sorcerers are weaker CAN'T be challenged as, say, Sukuna was during the golden age of Jujutsu.
Gojo works hard not cause he has competition but because he naturally has a huge passion for learning Jujutsu. He is a Jujutsu junkie. Some people like cars, some football but Gojo, he lives for Jujutsu.
Don't know what this youtuber is doing telling people Gojo was training hard to keep up with competition. What competition? Gojo is a product of immense talent falling on someone with immense passion in the field of said talent. He worked hard not because of some external incentive. He just loves "magic".
@@everdream4200I think the TH-camr meant for the “potential” challenge. Toji rocked his world, and GoJo, in his Education knew that the ten shadows has the potential to surpass him. So he didn’t have a a known competition, but he had potential competition that he could have been preparing for. Not 100% just for the love of it.
@@everdream4200okay the issue with your hypothesis about Gojo is that he wasn't technically standing on his own as "STRONGEST" until after Toji. Before Toji technically I believe he was grade 1 like Geto and Nanami. He was just the strongest Grade 1. So the other top tier grade 1s like Geto could've technically taken him out if they were to fight to the death. (Ofc I believe Gojo would've smacked Geto back then too.) But there would still be Yuki, Tensen, Kenjaku, etc that would've been stronger. You gotta remember that when they were in school Gojo and Geto considered each other equals meaning that technically teen Gojo should be well under Yuta in JJK0 and we all know there were ppl that could've taken out Yuta at that point. So basically anyone who could've taken out JJK0 Yuta can take out teen Gojo. Thus the need for training. Don't get me wrong tho you're very right about him being a jujutsu nerd and being passionate about it and that giving him more drive to figure out everything and train his technique and stuff.
love listening to this dude talk about jjk lol. would love to see some longer form videos someday.
I second this.
Thirded
Unlike hardwork vs Talent, JJK brings a new thing which is Gifted vs Talented....
Take Gojo for example, he is gifted at birth with the Six Eyes and limitless but is also equally talented to bring out their full potential....
Then take Megumi whose talent is above but is far more gifted with the CT he got......
Take Higuruma for example who is said to be as Talented as Gojo but isn't the most Gifted one.....
Takaba probably highlights the difference between Talent and Gift the best.....
Damn that’s really well said
Ummm......Sir.......Megumi is a 15 yr old kid 😭😭🤌🏻 !!! And he already have a domain expansion (not complete but still )........the Gojo that u saw in his flashback and which didn't even have domain and other things....was 17 !!!!!! Megumi when he comes back ...will be way stronger than a 17 yr old Gojo.....lol
@@zoropiratehunter4103 the only reason why megumi has a domain was literally because his life was on the line and it was either that or death. When gojo is finally pushed for the first time to the brink of death, he learns rct and proceeds to effortlessly dodge toji (the guy that bodied megumi) and one shot him with purple
@@zoropiratehunter4103 I didn't say he isn't talented, I meant to write "above most of the characters" but mistakenly wrote "above" but the theme surrounding Megumi has always been about him not being able to realize the full potential of his CT because of his mindset so I put him in more gifted than talented
@@drsh1711 Yeah that is a good point. He has a tendency to be resourceful and take advantage of external circumstances during fights rather than his own innate potential, like when he used the building to contain his incomplete domain. "Talented" sorcerers like Gojo straight up improve their techniques as they battle
There are two possibilities :
1. It's either a teen gojo with no rct against a Megumi like suicidal zenin clan member
2. Or it's an awakened 6 eyes limitless user who destroyed all 9 shadows and the maho summoned in the ritual after that was a maho totality (*we already saw how the divine dogs went from barely grade 1 to special grade level) if 1 shadow = 1f(*special grade) then that maho totality would've been 18-19f as maho at base is easily 8-9f (*higher than jogo)
Totality can only be used on tamed shikigami.
@@DzinkyDzink when activated as a technique? Yes. But the 9 tamed shadows that have been destroyed can't just disappear into the Abyss, their powers are passed down to the next summon which creates the possibility of an untamed maho totality being summoned as a ritual. (*According to the timeline the gojo clan member was 48-51 yrs old when he and the zenin clan member died and it's kinda hard to believe that gojo won't have learned rct by then)
@@Czurcodmlearning rct is hard, even kashimo couldnt do it and he is the strongest in his era
only in modern era we met so much sorcerer with rct
@@nerrick9602 yeah, but it's needed to make the red and purple and someone knew and created them. I am assuming it's the progenitor of the clan suguwara michizane as the first/progenitor is almost always the strongest in anime. Apart from him maybe others didn't have rct. Kenjaku was a kamo so a teen gojo might've defeated him, makes sense.
Correction, we only know of one other person with the limitless + six eyes other than gojo, the clan head gojo was telling megumi about. Every time kenjaku was defeated in the past it was by a six eyes user. Which means that they had a completly different technique paired with the six eyes which is pointed out by the fact that gojo is the first sorcerer in 400 years with the six eyes + limitless combo.
400 years ago would be the edo period
I think they meant just six eyes users, and we know three of them.
1. Head of the clan, who died in a fight, against Zenin clan head, who also died.
2. The newborn user of the six eyes, who was killed by Kenjaku right after his born (also he killed Star Plasma Vessel after their born as well)
3. Another six eyes user, that was born right after the one, that was killed by Kenjaku, but was kept in secret, until the "Star Plasma Vessel merge day"
Correction heian era is 1000 years ago the golden age of jujutsu and 400 years ago is the edo period where farmer kashimo goes undefeated.
400 years ago is not the Heian era lol
@@shizuka7886 yeah but the head you mentioned is the only one confirmed to have the limitless technique paired with their six eyes
I think the reason gojo was the strongest 6E/limitless user is because the others didn’t have anyone like toji to push them to reach that level. I hope we get a flashback of some other user maybe the two who defeated kenny and or vs the 10S user
The only thing gojo is adding to limitless six eyes is the auto rct
Everything else was already done before
Wether it was on the same level of power is doubtful but there were limitless users with rct ctr and hollow
@@blu3d3vil97there could be more
We saw him moving so fast he was producing after images
Also his infinity is also on auto so that may be a new addition
That's not true at all. The Gojo in Kashimo era literally wrote the playbook on red, hallow purple and a few other techniques. Gojo explained that.
Mahoraga : am I joke to you?
@@KimjohanJapon yeah this dudes drunk bro lmfao that other gojo had to deal with Kenjaku, Kashimo and Mahoraga.
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Gojo beat Mahoraga while getting jumped by a Chimera Shikigami and sukuna and still managed to obliterate him, while the last gojo clan member before him with 6eyes and limitless died in mutual combat to a 10 shadows user which means he may habe been killed by that users mahoraga
Correction: Gojo did not just beat Mahoraga while getting jumped by a Chimera Shikigami and sukuna, he beat a Mahoraga that was fully adapted to Infinite void and blue and partially adapted to red before fully manifesting. If an untamed Mahoraga showed up, Gojo would have one shotted him with Red
Doing something better than ONE other person and not even knowing exactly what happened doesn't factually prove u better than everyone
Exactly @@blu3d3vil97
@@ambinintsoahasina
Note that, Gojo here knows EVERYTHING about Mahoraga
Put Gojo against Mahoraga, without Any information
He'd have a lot of trouble defeating him. Sure domain expansion can handle that, but Mahoraga can pretty much adapt anything except Infinity void because it's literally one shot.
I believe the head of Gojo did not know anything bout maho.
@@majhianinana5637 uhmmm you have a point. Gojo knew we need to destroy Maho before it gets adapted.
I think even Infinite void alone cannot kill Maho as we saw Gojo trying to destroy it with red before it gets adapted with Infinite Void.
Sukuna is genius in observation so he deduced fast that Mahoraga needs to be killed by another technique before it's finished adapted with the current one.
I don't know if Gojo can deduce it by himself. I guess so but it would take Hollow Purple also. As he would try red then blue and deduce the adaptation
The thing to note is AT minimum:
1) Gojo surpasses all prior 10 shadow users (Due to being able to defeat Mahoraga - A feat no prior 10 shadow users could do - WHILE fighting Sukuna and Agito.) Furthermore this Mahoraga was tamed - Theoretically increasing the challenge from a exorcism ritual Mahoraga.
2) Gojo AT MINIMUM surpasses the prior limitless user who tied with the prior 10 shadows user.
So basically - Unless the 6 eyes user that tied with the 10 shadows user was exceptionally incompetent Gojo is exceptional compared to prior 6 eyes users. If we are to believe the potential of the limitless is comparable to the potential of the 10 shadow CT (likely not the case) then Gojo is extremely exceptional compared to his predecessors.
I think a couple of the 6 Eyes users couldn’t learn RCT and finish their full CT due to limitless. It seems hard to learn how to heal your self with theory when they’ve probably never been hurt. Gojo only learned it at deaths door and he has been one of the most talented sorcerers of all time.
Gege can still make some arcs after jjk is finished about some of gojo clan, zenin clan and kamo clan pasts. It would be cool to see which clan is stronger in which era.
Don't forget on top of this Gojo is a genius and has the uncanny ability of if he wants to do something if he puts his mind to it, he can.
Can't believe this channel has less than 10k subscribers
The mahoraga in the Shinjuku showdown was amped compared to base mahoraga and bro still had him and Sukuna on the edge, Satoru is built different
I was lowkey hoping to see a limitless+six eye user resurrected for the culling game. Secondly, I really hope Gege does light novels in the future, or has approves of someone else talented enough writing light novels with super vision
For a sorcerers to be incarnated in culling game, they would have to made a deal with Kenjaku tho, which is unlikely
@@moriyoukai2076 I know and Kenjaku dislikes six eye users, so he'd never make that deal with them, but I kinda still wanted to see it and I think fans would've enjoyed seeing another limitless six eye user just to have someone to compare Gojo to directly.
He couldn't either way. Only one six eye user at a time. When one dies the other will be immediately born. The one in Kashimo period is the one that taught how to use blue, hallow purple and all that other stuff. For that he had to have rct because you can't use red without it. @@CoolOkay_
I would never give my work to someone else so they could make up a bunch of headcanon
Never 😂 fxxxx no
@@sky-oq5mr I think I forgot about that, though I feel like they'd be smart enough to use their technique from sheer memory. Ya'know, ever had to navigate your own house in the dark? You can't see it anymore but you know where everything's at approximately, that's how I'd assume it'd be like.
Important to note that Gojo mentions that "scant few know about hollow purple" meaning that at least 1 if not more limitless+six eyes user has discovered and used RCT, red, and hollow purple. The main difference would be if that person trained further to gain their Domain expansion, rct brain refresh, and teleportation with blue.
He is obviously. It's based on how the clan system works. Basically the previous users pass down their knowledge to the next one, making it easier for them by not having to invent the technique or application of the technique. Also the clans keep knowledge of certain things especially the arsenal of the rival clan like the Zenin. The user who died to the 10S user during the Edo period fight most likely encountered Mahoraga for the first time, and figured out its abilities too late. However, since the fight was spectated, they took down notes, so that the next user knows how to deal with Mahoraga. Same thing with hollow purple, Satoru didn't have to invent it, he just has to train to do it since the groundwork has been laid out for him by previous users.
Passing down knowledge =/= automatically stronger future users than older ones
Just have an easier time
Gojo said that very few knew about hollow purple
Gojo is not the one with the most talent, he was born with the abilities, people like yuta and higuruma have much more talent
Nah he definitely has talent
Bro learned rct mere moments before death and then immediately after created hollow purple without ever doing it before since he didn’t have red before
Yuta is mainly gifted in terms of ce amount
And higuruma, he’s pretty talented considering everything he could do in a couple of months
No doubt,he is the only one to defeat a tamed Mahoraga and “defeated” the strongest 10 shadows user ever,dude was just built different.
Its funny how literally any question I have about this Anime you Upload a video about Within like 2 days or have alreadt uploaded it😭
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Gojo didn’t learn hollow purple from any guides. He didn’t have access to curse reversal red until he learned RCT. And he used purple immediately after in his 2nd fight with toji. Safe to say he taught himself how to do hollow purple in a matter of moments.
Since we know there have been cases where there have been previous six eyes users without infinity, I'd love to see what they were like
Maybe some of them had a different curse technique that they could constantly spam thanks to the six eyes
I like the idea of taking the six eyes and giving them to someone with construction technique, so the huge CE cost is mitigated. Though, that has likely never happened before as these are techniques associated with two entirely separate clans.
I Also want to just point out that EVEN THOUGH we fans all assume mahoraga killing the Zenin clan leader and one of the previous Limitless+Six eyes user actually happened, its very possible it straight up didnt.
Gojo NEVER said they both died to mahoraga, he ONLY told megumi they both died in a fight with eachother.
Megumi said he *GUESSES* that the 10 shadows user summoned mahoraga for the ritual, but megumi does NOT know that, and therefore neither do we.
Yeah but it's definitely the most likely outcome/scenario that occured.
It will be a lot cooler if an awakened six eyes user got killed by a full potential 10S user *without* Mahoraga, revealing the true power of the technique
It will be a lot cooler if an awakened six eyes user got killed by a full potential 10S user *without* Mahoraga, revealing the true power of the technique
@@kaizen2840 dont know why i never saw this reply, but its the most likely scenario in YOUR eyes maybe. But even gojo explains the situation as megumi’s potential, NOT as a suicidal kill your self thing. This would stand to reason that he believes the ten shadows user was just that powerful, especially if he was telling Megumi that he could surpass himself
@@cooldes4593 It's the most likely scenario based on what the statements and events have been in the manga, aka, what the author implies. I am just stating the, clearly, most likely answer based on the facts and not a straight up headcanon.
I have a question. How would limitless look without the 6 eyes? Is it completely usless? Or some techniques can still be used but are much less refined and drain much more CE, like blue,infinity and maybe red (if the sorcerer can use RCT), but purple being completely impossible without 6 eyes.
It would make sense since all except purple are so widely known by the sorcerer community.
It's pretty much useless. The amount of CE control it takes to use Limitless properly requires the 6 Eyes
It's either a simpler, heavily nerfed version of the one Gojo uses
Or extremely inefficient that it drains your Cursed Energy
@@moriyoukai2076it's both
U cant make precise control of limitless without six eyes
U are limited to just throwing blues reds and purple
No multi blue, no teleport, no blue on yourself to increase speed
@@zarc1145nope, just simpler and less refined
I just assumed that the previous 6eyes limitless user didn't know what Mahoraga did like Sukuna didn't when he first fought Mahoraga. Gojo in his fight with Mahoraga intentionally held back using certain techniques to make sure Mahoraga didn't adapt. Gojo went in with information that no previous user had which allowed him to win.
I’d actually like to ask you who you’d think would win between a fully realized Mahito vs a fully realized Megumi. Yano’s now the the Sukuna vs Gojo debate is over
Megumi
All he needs is to touch mahito once with the wheel active then wait a bit and mahoraga adapts and no diffs
Or ya know,mahoraga one taps mahito with the positive energy blade that one shots curses
@@blu3d3vil97 idk I feel it would be more complicated then that, because a fully realized mahito could arguably have the ability to kill mahoraga before he adapts, and yeah I didn't think about the curse killing blade but still I think you could argue either way and kt could be a fun discussion
@godofmisfortune992 ofc it wont be just as i said, but that was a simplifcation
Besides fully realized mahito doesn't mean much when he already fully realized himself in shibuiya and he doesn't stand much of a chance against mahoraga
And IT wouldn't actually kill mahoraga(it could change his body but will still be alive, then wheel adapts and he recovers from IT) nor does any of mahito's attacks actually have the destructive power like the fire arrow or purple
@@blu3d3vil97 he 100% didn’t fully reach his potential in Shibuya. I genuinely believe at the rate he was growing a fully realized Mahito could become the next sukuna, tho obviously this is after years and years. But that’s why I think it’s interesting. I believe Mahito could become the next Sukuna and Megumi could surpass gojo.
@godofmisfortune992 thing is, mahito ct is limited more than sukuna's ironically and same for megumi's ct compared to gojo's
Mahito's ct is not strong when it comes to actually damage and destruction and megumi's ct seems limited in how strong the ct in itself is
Both are based around hax at the apex of their ct
Mahito becomes so much weaker if he cant just negate your dmg
Has no purple or fire arrow or uzumaki or things like that
His domain is completely countered by SD or DA and because its not an attack it cant break the SD or overpower DA like red/purple/dismantle did in gojo vs sukuna
And yes mahito did get his potential
He had everything about his ct except maybe a maximum that would be weaker than his domain
What u are referring to is giving mahito stat boosts to make him faster stronger durable than he ever showed
Megumi's ct had sukuna, the literal biggest ce pool ever to buff his shadows and they were still almost fodder compared to gojo and sukuna
So after a point the shadows cant even keep up with their user
The user himself doesn't get mahoraga's adaptation so any time any adaptation can fail if the opponent gets the user
Mahito and megumi while pretty high potential wouldn't reach the godly status of gojo and sukuna
Ten shadows was literally given the strongest character as its user and an extra domain and still failed to beat limitless as mahoraga and agito got defeated and if it wasn't for a seccond ct there wouldn't have existed the slash at the end.
He is really smart as well, that is very slight but an advantage nonetheless.
Would be pretty lit to get your opinions on Nobara and if she is for real dead or not
The entire known world told him that it was his job to save did Jujitsu world since birth protecting the ⭐️ vessel
I guess the current iterration of Kenjaku is the strongest he has ever been. We know that when he was talking to Kashimo in the past, he himself said he is not very strong currently, and we also know that Kenjaku directly stated he has been waiting for someone like Geto to appear so that he could take their body.
From this we can safely assume that current Kenjaku in Geto's body is the strongest he has ever been, or at the very least stronger than his Kashimo-Era version. We also know Gojo is much stronger than Kashimo. If Kenjaku doesn't even believe he can beat an old Kashimo, yet he chose to try and face a 6-eyes user, all the while completely avoiding Gojo and being scared shitless of him, we can safely assume Gojo is much stronger than the two 6-eyes users that defeated Kenjaku.
We also know that Sukuna did not know about Limitless + 6 Eyes as he is surprised by Gojo's ability when he first fights him (1 finger), and Sukuna is from 1000 years ago. Gojo is the first 6 eyes+limitless user in 400 years, and we know they are super rare and only appear every few hundred years. If you are very generous and say that they appear every 150 years, and the 400 year stretch before Gojo was just an unlucky stretch, that'd only be 5 total Limitless+6 Eyes users in all of history, including Gojo (600 years since Sukuna's time before Gojo's 400-year stretch of no Limitless+6Eyes user, one each 150 years making 4, and Gojo adding up to 5. If they only appear every 300 years for example, Gojo would only be the 3rd ever user).
And we also know that at least one of them is weaker than Gojo, the one that lost to Mahoraga. That only leaves a maximum of 3 other users, and two (that a weaker Kenjaku felt confident challenging) were also likely weaker. (We also know that not everyone that has limitless+6 eyes unlocks Purple, as only a "scant few" people in the clan know about it, in Gojo's words)
This leads me to believe that Gojo is indeed the strongest Limitless + 6 Eyes user in history. The only potential other candidate would be whoever discovered Purple, however it's often the case that someone getting a "tutorial" guide about a technique and then having time to train with it, will surpass the original creator, as they don't need to spend years trying to create a technique and instead can spend their time refining it. And I think there's a reason Gege hasn't bothered to show us the previous 6-eyes users. It'd probably be redundant since Gojo can do everything they can but better, thus vocal exposition from Kenjaku was enough. Plus Gojo is talented af, he was able to use Purple effectively in combat vs a very strong opponent basically as soon as he unlocked Red, and we know that Red is required for Purple meaning that was his first attempt at it ever. This leads me to believe he already had extensive knowledge about how to use Red and Purple very effectively and just needed the RCT unlock. Giving plenty of time to refine both beyond the level of whoever created them.
Gojo hard work + talent
Gege changed Sukuna's reasoning for wanting Megumi. Originally Fraudkuna was interested in using shadows as a medium for the shikigami but it seems Gege changed it to that he wanted Mommyraga and adaptation after fighting it. Any theories for what Sonkuna could have originally wanted to do with Megumi's 10S? Do you think "using shadows as a a medium" will play a part later or did Akutami Araki forget?
Sukuna = Mahommes
Mahoraga = Kelce
Kenjaku = Andy Reid
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Day 6 of asking: can the purpose a heavenly restriction user exist is to help a 10 shadow users defeat their curses/ mahoraga
a taming ritual only works if the sorcerer who summoned the shadow defeats it solo, you can do the ritual involving another person but the shadow remains untamed, if its another person with heavenly restrictions helping the shadows user it would be pointless, a shadows user with a heavenly restriction themselves could be a thing though.
If you watched the first and second season. You gave no spoilers, everything you said was there.
Also the guy who invented the purple (*and most likely had UV too) can be michizane suguwara aka the progenitor of the gojo and okkotsu clan himself (*he was present in the early parts of the heian era so kenjaku probably should know about him (*1500+ yrs old) but he most likely wasn't present in sukuna's time (*although I don't think it'd make much difference)
nobody should have had uv before because a domain is from each person's innate domain which was stated to be unique
@@jueviolegrace2546 UV is the inner world of the limitless, I see no reason why another limitless user will have a different domain (*megumi's domain is incomplete so I can't say anything about that but that too in its complete state should be the domain of any 10s user)
@@CzurcodmI know you are referring to what Gojo said but I disagree because I think that's just Gojo's interpretation because it was stated that domains are manifestations of the innate domain. The other evidence of this being sukunas domain and innate domain. If you don't agree fine since we're both guessing anyway and Gege never really answered the question
@@jueviolegrace2546 innate domain? Sukuna has an innate Domain/inner world constructed because his soul is on a completely different level + it was trapped in yuji's body.
Not everyone has an innate domain of their souls as Mahito touching the soul is similar to the volume cover of jjk vol 6
@@Czurcodm ok now this is just factually wrong everyone in jjk even non sorcerers each have an innate domain unique to them. It is in no way exclusive to sukuna. So either you don't know, you have forgotten or you just straight up lied. Check the wiki
I feel like not all had a domain or didn't have reverse curse technique and that's pretty big difference in power because those were the two main problems sukuna faced against gojo. Hollow purple and infinite void. Gojo defeated a sukuna tamed mahoraga, so we know he's the strongest six eyes
they always said that megumi had the potential to reach gojo but it just didn’t make sense. they talk about how his cursed energy reserve was huge and he manages to use a sliver of it constantly, but they never talk about megumis cursed energy reserves or anything just the technique. i feel like his reserves has a lot when deciding if he can’t fully reach gojo or not. is he gifted with talent or the potential to work hard for that level or is the technique just good enough to pass him
It’s a mixture of his talent and the technique being so good. Literally the only thing that holds Megumi back is his mindset. He too quick to give up or choose suicide by Mahoraga instead of actually trying to win. That’s why Gojo told him winning by dying and dying to win are two different things. He was basically telling Megumi the way he relies on Mahoraga isn’t something he should take pride in, he shouldn’t count committing suicide just to win as a win. Instead he should aspire to actually dominate his opponent and if he dies in the process then that’s fine because then that means he died fighting with pride and honor.
Short answer yes. Because new gen will have access to information from previous gen. The next six eyes will know what gojo has done and will have access to information of gojo
U have access to information on how to build space ships
How many pple can do it?
Only gojo manage to unlock reversal red and purple, he pretty much pull of something more to already broken ability.
Talented yes, hard working is a stretch. he was pretty cocky and arrogant up until he almost died to Togi then afterwords he became paranoid causing the upgrade to his limitless.
bro gojo is just so hot strong smart funny kind like omg i love him sm 😍😍🥰🥰
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@@soakup823 im not 12 ;/
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there is talent and hardworking......but more than that there is "INATE" gojo is inate
what if the ten shadows guy was just built diff, like domain expansion completed so when he summons mahoraga along with domain expansion its actually like crazy powerful?
Unpopular opinion: Gojo looks way more badass with the blindfold on
But he just looks like some manic on six lines of cocaine without it (he probably is)
He is easily the strongest in history and it's not close, though it's possible that a previous user (like the one who learned purple) was just born in a different time from Sukuna and was born well before the clash between the Zenin clan and the Gojo clan.
Day 4: Can mahoraga adapt to curse energy??
Gojo learned RCT after facing Toji does this mean he was performing RCT subconsciously before for his six eyes strain?
No
Gojo had no rct before
That's why he was tired
3:47 , i highly doubt Gojo was the only one with those powers to face Sukuna , in their first fight Sukuna instantly recognize there was something more to Gojo than just speed. I wouldnt doubt its from experience
If we put Gojo pre-Toji and Megumi before Sukuna. Well, we would have a technical draw because of Mahoraga. I imagine the result of past users of these techniques must have faced themselves when they were 16 years old. Both inexperienced.
well only six eyes user we see is gojo sooo
WE HAVE NOTHIGN TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS STRONGER
fomr all that we khow he can even be the weakest but we dont khow beacause we never met someone other with limitless and six eyes
We don't really know how and when the connection between the six eyes and Tengen started. So, apart from maybe the first ever six eyes user, he seems to be the strongest 6E user.
Also, I want to point out that we never got a confirmation on how the fight between the clan heads went. The 10S user could have tamed Maho and used it in a strategic way. Maybe the records of the fight got erased due to how destructive the fight was. We shouldn't underestimate the sorcerers of the past either. But for as long as we need to know, the latest users of both techniques seems to be the best so far. Gojo for SE (and limitless).
Edit: At first, I wrote the name of the best 10S user, but then I realized some anime-onlies read these comments. 😂
Unlikely, we are explicitly told no one has tamed it before.
Hey man can u explain inumakis speech patterns 🙏
Wrong interpretation . The past six eyes limitless should have been more powerful than you think. Two of them managed to kill Kenjaku a really powerful sorcerer plus Gojo even says that one of the advantage of innate technique is the legacy of your predecessor. They left a lot of writings sharing their experience. Hollow purple for instance was a technique knew by few people in the Gojo clan , that means in the past , there was a six eyes limitless who used it therefore mastering blue and red.Yes I think Gojo is a bit more powerful but not by a large marging
why does sukuna have so much cursed energy and what decides how much you have?
Thanks!
Appreciate you 🙏🏻
Can mahoraga fly?
Plz answer do u think toji can beat mahoraga ?
Gojo said it himself sorcerer strength 80% decided technique they're born with so having better CT(talent) more significant than hardworking and someone without CT like kusakabe could never reach those on the top of jujutsu sorcery(special grade)
Ye but Satoru mastered the technique learned rct basically at the peak of jujutsu heck the only thing he doesn't know is to open a barrier less domain and healing others
Also maybe the putting yiur soul's in objects but you need someone who can naturally do that to teach like Kenjaku to Sukuna
@@source324 he has six eyes to help him learn anything faster did you forget what six eyes do
My man cooked
Can you explain what are the vengeful spirits, Sukuna's, Rika's (why she is the queen of curses) and Geto's relation to those vengeful spirits
Vengeful spirits are those that die(seems like typically sorcerers) without cursed energy and emotions are so strong during death that they return as cursed spirits, the three great cursed spirits were three strong sorcerers that came back as spirits(the current three great clans can trace their lineage to one of these), Sukuna is still unknown we don’t know if he was born like that or began ascending into a higher being like tengen after his immense mastery of jujutsu, Rika was turned into a curse by Yuta who he himself is extremely blessed with cursed energy(she is called the queen of curses just because she seemed so powerful and her case was extremely unique). As far as we know Geto has zero connections to the vengeful spirits.
@@neneray310 thank you, I don't know how I had the idea that geto had one of the vengeful spirits in his arsenal of curses before he died.
Also I thought Rika is a vengeful spirit since Yuta has a common lineage to Gojo which goes back to one of the original vengeful spirits.
Thank you for the explanation 😊
Kashimo period Gojo did have rct. You cant use red without rct that has been explained already. Him awakening rct is what alloeed him to use red and hallow purple. The edo period gojo is the one that made the blue print on it. Now you saying they didnt have as much of a reason to get stronger is wild considering gojo is in the weakest most peaceful era ever.
Ofcourse he is the strongest six eyes and limitless user remember when sukuna put mahoraga inside shadows right away when he first appeared in the fight cause he was sure enough that gojo will kill sukuna with his red alone ? Yeah that's how much powerful his red alone is
I don't think its safe to say he's stronger than the one the 10 shadows user took out, my guess for how it happed is that the limitless user was overwhelmed by an almost fully realised 10 shadows user, their regeneration and ferocity, then they brought out untamed maharaja and overwhelmed the limitless user, that's how I always imagined it
And Gojo beat a tamed Mahoraga while the strongest sorcerer in history fought him. Your point being?
Nigga this gojo can beat the living shit of any mahoraga since the one he fought was literally being boosted by SUKUNA himself
Gojo doesn't even need purple only like maximum red and blue he just needs purple since Mahoraga already adapted to limitless by a lot
Gojo killed a Mahoraga that was tamed by the strongest sorcerer in history, he literally fought a 3v1 vs RYOMEN SUKUNA and 2 of the strongest shikigami he's built diff
Facts
Sukuna when fighting gojo and megumi first time didn't really know about limitless or the ten shadows technique I guess that means that sukuna never fought a ten shadows user and a limitless user in the hein era. But here is the thing that even though the limitless user and 10 shadows user fought each other and were killed in the process why sukuna didn't know about it. i guess one reason could've been that they were not from hein era but since the clan was so well known I think in my opinion if sukuna wanted to be known as a strongest he should have challenged the other limitless user or the 10 shadows user but he didn't neither he tried to know about them . what do you think about this?
Six eyes vs ten shadows happened on the previous heads, 200 years before current day
Sukuna literally couldn't know about them
@@blu3d3vil97facts and hes soul split in 20 in heian era until the present day when yuji awakened him
Gojo: Talent + Hardwork = GOAT.
Naruto: 0 Talent + 0 Hardwork = Trash character with insane plot armor.
I have agree with most, Gojo is definitely the strongest. Simply because he could bend the rules of cursed energy to the point where even sukana started COPYING him. So a human who lived in the GOLDEN AGE of sorcery, copied a tactic that Gojo used. That just confirms to that Gojo is something different
Ah yes because it would be totally not viable to copy an effective strategy if the user wasn't overpowered....
@@blu3d3vil97it means that sukuna never seen it before
@@at7072 potentially
We saw sukuna use it right away vs gojo
But angel words leave room for question
Also sukuna seemed to know the limit on how many times gojo could heal his burnout
Might be he already knew, or after doing it once after seein gojo he could guese a limit on it
@@blu3d3vil97 well if he did knew gojo’s burnout how had he not known his own
@at7072 read my comment more carefully
Or maybe u just got the wrong understanding of the manga
Sukuna didn't suffer from healing his burnout
He healed himself 3 times while gojo did 5 times
Gojo was gonna die from domain after 5 burnout heals but sukuna was only at 3
But sukuna got hit by unlimited void and that is the reason sukuna couldn't open his domain
michizani suguwara vs gojo satrou.
i agree
Why doesn't Yuta just copy Sukuna's CT or 10 shadows
The chapter hasn't happened yet, chill. 😂 Also, to answer your question, it seems like the condition for Yuta to copy a CT is for Rika to eat a body part of the opponent.
It's not impossible that he already copied 10S from Megumi before they joined culling game
Now, as for the Shikigami arsenal, is another question
Yes
Mahoraga as any of the ten shadows are based on their summoner power so we are sure that the mahoraga gojo fought is the strongest in history since its based on sukuna power so i think gojo is the strongest
Except no difference is seen on mahoraga
@@blu3d3vil97 what do you mean no diffrence , the one megumi summoned took alot of time to adapt to sukuna cutting technique which is a simple technique but very powerful in the hands of sukuna and wasnt able to finish bec sukuna finished him with his fire attack while the one sukuna summoned adapted to infinity which is one of the most complexed techniques in a second so there is a huge difference
@yahyaamr2219 buddy
U literally got it in the wrong order
Sukuna sliced mahoraga 1-2 times and poof one adaptation done
Against UV the wheel was constantly hit by uv and adapting in every clash
This makes 5 clashes and one of those alone was over 3m of non stop uv
Each hit makes the spin faster
Against infinity it needed minutes and 8, EIGHT spins for one adaptation
No improvements on mahoraga speed or strength were seen either
Go read the fukin manga in order not in reverse
@@blu3d3vil97 to adapt to a technique you need to get hit by it and the first time sukuna was hit by infinty was in the fifth domain clash bec the first four it was neutrlized by sukuna domain plus how do you explain nue (the electrical bird) being much larger in size when summoned by sukuna
@yahyaamr2219 buddy
Did i ever say every shikigami wasn't changed? I said mahoraga
So according to you, u think from the fifth domain to round 2 it was 1sec XD?
Buddy, get a grip
2:56 how exactly did he train? Dude realized in a microsecond how RCE and RCT work, even then, dude managed to merge both CT and RCT within 30 minutes of doing said previous accomplishments.
Also do you ever see not even Gojo, but any main character train ever? We only see Yuta, and never do we see the likes of Yuji or Megumi lift so much as a stick to train.
Even Gojo is just wondering around annoying anyone below his power and coincidentally disappearing until the plot needs him again.
Wasn’t that little pen flipping thing in hidden inventory showing that after a good bit of training, Gojo could flip between red and blue and made auto limitless?
You're so dumb
Chapter 76 and 77 is literally gojo talking about and showing the training he did for AN ENTIRE YEAR after his fight with toji
And gojo in his death scene also talks about his training throughout his life
Sukuna also states that itadori was training in the month to learn RCT and CE manip more
@@buttbutterson5326 he looks perectly fine, if flipping pencils for a year equals to hard training for jjk fans then something is wrong with you all.
Gojo already knew to do red and purple
He just didn't get how to create positive energy
Like knowing how to shoot a gun like a navy seal but not how to load it first
U cant use it
@kachucho872 ah so u are just stupid
Flipping the pen wasn't done for a year as training despite what kids think
It was done after a year of training to show how much better gojo's control of blue and red got
Thought you needed rct for red??
So red was only unlocked after learning rct?
@@Theoddfather1017no he been had red but after learning RCT or rather after being nearly killed/killed he understood CE better which allowed him to use it. He tried it against someone while holding riko but he he couldn’t pull it off yet
Let me explain how it works.
Blue is a lapse technique, meaning it's an Extension Technique of the Limitless that is powered by Cursed Energy, and it pulls.
Red is literally just Blue, but it is powered by the Positive Energy generated by RCT instead of Cursed/Negative Energy. Since it's powered by the inverse of Cursed Energy, it also has an opposite effect, which is the effect to repel, push away.
Red is just Blue, but powered by Positive Energy instead of Negative Energy. Satoru didn't know how to do RCT, so he couldn't make Positive Energy, and therefore couldn't do Red, even though previous Limitless users had managed to do it in the past. It wasn't created by Satoru, but he knew about it, he just didn't know how to do RCT to generate the Positive Energy necessary to do it.
So yes, he basically "unlocked" Red after learning how to RCT. And now that he had both Blue and Red, he could also do Hollow Purple, since that was also a Technique Lapse a previous Limitless user created in the past that Gojo knew about (even if it's existance was more secretive than Red and Blue's, even the Zen'In and Kamo clans didn't know about it, hence why Hollow Purple caught Toji by surprise and killed him.)
@@Theoddfather1017Gojo learned about Red from reading books the Gojo clan has written over the years about the limitless technique. However, although Gojo knew red existed, he couldnt perform Red because he didnt know how to perform RCT. While protecting Riko, he tried to use Red against the paper bag guy, attempting to see what happens if he tries to perform red without rct, which basically just made a red flashlight that doesnt really do anything. Its not until Gojo figures out RCT that hes finally able to use Red against Toji during their rematch
So previous users are confident have RCT. I understand now
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Who cares... Sukuna is the best 10 shadows user
I’m not sure why we would assume that previous six eyes and limitless owners wouldn’t have access to RCT considering that we know sorcerers were way stronger in the past. Gojo is the "strongest" of one of the weakest eras of sorcery let's not forget that.
also, even though Gojo has had a traumatic life, I feel like it would be safe to assume that, considering this is also an error of relative peace, comparatively to the past that other six size and limitless users would have most likely experienced even more trauma, therefore, becoming stronger than him.
I honestly don't know where gojo would rank in terms of top gojo clan members and ancestors but I feel like with all the evidence that we have about the world of jjk especiallyin temrs of the relative power levels throughout history that gojo would probably be towards the bottom.
tell me you haven't read the manga without telling me you haven't read the manga
I say gojo is more talent than hard work while maybe sukuna is more hard work than talent. He had to plan to actually kill gojo
Important to note that Gojo mentions that "scant few know about hollow purple" meaning that at least 1 if not more limitless+six eyes user has discovered and used RCT, red, and hollow purple. The main difference would be if that person trained further to gain their Domain expansion, rct brain refresh, and teleportation with blue.