What if Darth Vader's Suit Was More Powerful? Star Wars Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2017
- Darth Vader had his limitations, much due to his loss of limbs and organic tissue, and added was due to his limiting and painful suit.
Let's explore the scenario regarding "What if Darth Vader Had a More Powerful Suit?" I think this could change many things, what do you think?
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What if Mace didn't fly out the windu
Anakin Skywalker ur anakin, if u wanted to see what happened, why did u cut his hand off?
he would still be inside the windu
Anakin Skywalker I saw what you did there 😂...
Omg you did not xD
Tell us how you feel about sand please.
Can you imagine Darth Vader teaching Jedi younglings. Vader during lessons - "I remember that one time when I attacked the Jedi temple and killed all the younglings." *The class shudders*
@@kaana8421 lmfao
Youngling: Master Anakin what are these marks on the wall, they look like they came from a lightsaber/
Anakin: Uhm.... class dismissed!
e C So accurate it’s funny
That's like a school shooter becoming a pre school teacher
Best way to get them to behave honestly
Vader: *PALPATINE*
Palpatine: What?
Vader: Where’s my new super suit?
Palpatine: What???
Vader: *WHERE. IS MY NEW SUPER SUIT ?*
Lol
Incredibles...
🤣🤣🤣
Beautiful comment
Vader: WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE SITH MASTER!!
Palpatine: I’m the only future the sith are gonna have!!! 😂
Palpatine: is scared of Vader overthrowing him despite losing all his limbs, whole body burned, gaining asthma, and gaining a suit weak to force lightning he still gives him a sucky suit
Also Palpatine: why is my apprentice so weak I should plan to raise a new one
Anything stronger than Vader would anihilate Palps easily imagine a bloodlusted Galen
@@casualcookin3893 Starkiller definitely wouldn’t beat Palpatine lol
@@casualcookin3893 apparently Rey is strong enough
@@mahir6838 we both know thats bullshit :)
@@RussianBear42069 But its fucking cannon (Bullshit I know but if that barely trained mary stew can beat a Amped palpatine then bloodlusted Galen can defeat regular Rotj Palpatine.
What if when Anakin and Obi wan fought on Mustafar, Obi wan just kept throwing sand in Anakin's eyes
I like this one :D anakin hate sans
Mr Lag I like that idea
What if luke jammed vader's prosthetics with sand
I found myself laughing out loud at this one...
no sand on Mustafar.:p
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Vader: "Palps, I have something to tell you."
The emperor: "What? Wait did you just call me..."
Vader: "I am Ironman."
*Flies away and blows a star destroyer apart with a laser shooting out of his hand*
The emperor: "What? When? Who? Why? How?"
Arphemius wtf? hahahahahahaha
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Arphemius this is great
Am I the only one that read that with the voice of Robot Chicken characters?
anybody wanna get schwarma?
Darth Vader was like a level 100 elite enemy wearing level 60 gear. Or a boss wearing the the player's armor
Level 60?
More like 15
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Star Wars Theory: What if Darth Vader was more Powerful?
Jedi Fallen Order: YES.
It’s all fun and games until he pull up with no health bar
you have failed me inquisitor
Glaceyn avenge us
@@logantriplettfilms102 it would be wise to surrender
Yeah probably
can you imagine Darth Vader opening up whatever the star wars equivalent of a box from Amazon prime is, and being all excited like, "Awesome, my new leg's arrived!"
Justin Texeira haha I'm dead!
Wonder if he would use prime, free two day shipping.
I can imagine him collecting a variety of different legs, for various purposes. If he wanted to outrun and catch his opponents he could switch out what he had for digitigrade legs (knees bend backward thus greater running speed), or he could install legs with stronger hydraulic capacity for greater leaps and kicking through walls. He could also have a pair of legs with internal compartments for sneaky shit like hiding his lightsabre plus a few thermal detonators on diplomatic missions where he has to /appear/ unarmed and has to cut back on openly using the Force...but mainly he would go with the legs he has, I think. As long as we're exploring possibilities here, right?
All i want for Christmas is my two lower legs
Tom miller
uposed to your higher legs
After the final Rogue One scene...we NEED just a solo, dark movie of Vader dropping the hammer on the rest of the Jedi.
The force is strong with this one.
We need this for 2020’s Star Wars Anthology Movie. Vader: A Star Wars Story.
I dont think a purely vader going around hunting jedi would hold up. It needs something more for it to work. Hense why vader worked so well when he had only 10 minutes of the entire movie of rogue one.
Kiri Su I find your lack of faith, disturbing.
oh you want a vader origins movie? It's called Episode 1 through 6
Luke: daddy how did master mace die
Liea: yea daddy how did he die
Obi wan: looks at anakin
Yoda: looks at anakin
Mace: don’t say it
Anakin: HE WENT OUT THE WINDU
I like it VERY GOOD
@ImperialRuins *N O*
@ImperialRuins woah woah woah woah chill
@meh *N O*
@meh *S I L E N C E F O O L*
Stormtroopers: Sir how much pizza should we order?
Palpatine: order 66
fives said he couldn't come
then order 65
o dear
Edplyz they didn’t hear the storm trooper and then he’s dead
66 pizza's please
Dude that is really good even though i'm 7 months late
Epdlyz: (Hours later):
Stormtroopers: "My Lord..."
Palpatine: "It's about TIME, WHERE'S MY FUCKING PIZZA!?"
Stormtroopers: "Pizza? THIS is awkward."
What if Darth Vader's Suit Was More Powerful?-
Vader would start saying,
-'I have become more comfortable than any Jedi.'
Is that a zanny joke
Lol
.... even you
ZANCLAN!!!!
Have you heard the tragedy of darth plaguies the wise
What if mace windu was left handed
Jeremy Mount oh wow..good one
altho i think then anakin would chop his head instead of his hand
Jeremy Mount you just made me laugh
yea good one
my reaction : wait.....why would that make a oooohhhhh lol
He'd be more powerful because there is less left handed swordsman and nobody would know how to defend against him
If Vader’s suit had been upgraded he probably would have taken out the emperor sometime between rots and nh.
Maybe, anakin had the potential to become more powerful than sidious, and maybe with a better suit he could beat him.
However the best chance he would have at beating sidious would be if he was never injured.
@@glowhoo9226 It was going to be a fact. George Lucas said Anakin had the potential to become 2 to 3 times stronger than the emperor, his injuries along with his suit limited his capacity to an 80% of Palpatine's power. Anakin without injuries would have been as strong as an entity of the force. He would practically fly or something like that haha.
@@glowhoo9226 George Lucas said Anakin would have been 2 to 3 times stronger than Sidious, but his injuries along with his suit limited him to an estimated 80% of Palpatine's power. Would anakin never be injured he would have been an entity of the force, he would be able to fly or something like that haha.
The idea that Vader could not be transplanted into a new suit is bollocks, because in Rogue One, we see that he can be removed from his suit entirely and have his prosthetic limbs detached from his body (in order to be submerged into a bacta tank). Hence, he could easily be placed into a new suit. Also, I highly doubt that he was in constant pain due to his prosthetics and armor snagging on his flesh.
Figures' Fort it's not just that. He'd have to have all his cybernetics and life support removed. That includes his respirator, all the tubes and everything going in and out of his body
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Vader hated people who used more than one Saber
He could've had a grievous arm all the way back in ep3 if he made his robo arm go spin spin
My arms are my arms
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What if E.T never joined the Galactic Senate
E.t was not on the Senate. Given all evidence ET himself is probably a Jedi but that's irrelevant. Are you saying all ET aliens look like ET, you racist?
Trump will build the forcefield and keep all the dirty E.T's out
Bob Bobson there's a scene where you can see E.T. In the shot
No, it was E.T's species, but not the alien himself. That alien's name was confirmed in Legends to be a fellow of his species by the name of Grebleips, an anagram of Spielberg
LOL
I disagree. If his suit were more powerful, he would have killed the Emperor and taken his place as soon as possible.
Vader probably would have realized that Palpatine was Darth Plagieus(IDK how to spell that) apprentice, and thus would demand that Palpatine teach him how to revive Padme. Palpatine would be conflicted, as choosing to give Vader the secrets he desired would deplete the control he had over Vader. Vader would sense this and realize that Palpatine was never going to give him the secrets he desired and attack him. His new suit would help him easily defeat the emperor and tell Palpatine to either tell him the secrets, or die. Palpatine would claim that his power was too great for Vader to handle and attempt to kill him with Force Lightning. Vader's suit wouldn't conduct lightning like his old suit, and wouldn't sever his Force connection, giving Vader the power to withstand the lightning. Vader would probably deflect it back to Palpatine. Once Palpatine was weakened, Vader would throw Palpatine out of the window(assuming they were in the II Death Star Throne Room) into space. Vader would stand there, his suit providing him air and preventing him from flying out the window. His suit would let him think more clearly, and he would realize that the Palpatine never wanted to help him, and just wanted to use him for help ruling the Galaxy. Vader would realize all that he had done, and turn back to the light. Anakin would exile himself to some distant planet, ruled by greif and Luke and the Rebellion would be left to purge out the rest of the Empire. If Vader got the improved suit before 'A New Hope,' then Vader most likely would have found Obi-Wan on Tatooine and killed him sooner, ruining Luke's training and causing Luke to only be taught little to none by the tome Yoda dies, as it would take longer for Luke to find Yoda. Yoda would come to Luke as a Force Ghost and urge him to find his father, Anakin Skywalker. Luke would find Anakin and be trained similar to the way of Mace Windu: the Light Side, but with more emotion.Luke would be taught a mixture of all the forms and Luke would lead a storm on the Death Star II. With the Emperor dead and Vader gone, the Empore would be in a mess. Due to them being unorganized, Luke could get them in with Anakin guiding him through the Force. They would blow up the Death Star II and bring peace to the Galaxy.
@@pyrcva palpatine killed plaguis before he learned anything about immortality from him
No bro.... Sidious had a mental grip on Anakin for years since he was a kid....
@@user-up3dd1vw6b im guessing ep 9's gonna prove that statement as incorrect in one way or another
It wouldn't have been a "suit" but a full prosthetic body, replacing everything except his vital organs.
🌟 *Without the helmet, Vader looks like Malgus.*
Ah, Elessar, Aragorn II, Estel Telcontar, Thorongil, Strider, Wingfoot, The Dúnadan, Cheiftain of the Dúnedain, King of the Reuinted Kingdom, Heir of Isildur, Heir of Elendil, King of all the Dúnedain, King of the West, Lord of the Dúnedain, Envinyatar, King of Gondor, King of Arnor, High King of Gondor and Arnor, Lord of the house of Telcontar, how is your son, Eldarion, doing?
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He has begun his crusade, against the south and the east.
@King Aragorn II Ellesar, Estel Telcontar, Thorongil, Strider, Wingfoot, The Dúnadan, Cheiftain of the Dúnedain, King of the Reuinted Kingdom, Heir of Isildur, Heir of Elendil, King of all the Dúnedain, King of the West, Lord of the Dúnedain, Envinyatar, King of Gondor, King of Arnor, High King of Gondor and Arnor, Lord of the house of Telcontar, very good I wish him all the best! I hope he is as good at combat as his father
But malgus later got a breathing mechanism infront of his mouth
@@mathysoberholzer9189
I said "helmet", not mouth piece. Even so, with the mouth piece on, Vader looks similar to Malgus.
Finally realizing how evil Palpatine is? So starting a war while controlling both sides, ordering the death of an unarmed prisoner, the slaughter of children and the destruction of planets wasn't enough?
Vader always knew, he just hated the Jedi so much and wanted peace through fear and order. He also wanted to kill Palpatine way before Luke came around, he was never strong enough though.
The reason he's angry is Obi Wan cut off more than just his arm and legs
The suit is more of a prison to keep him under control. He was just too powerful to be fully restored.
I disagree because palpatien (my grammar is bad) could have restored Vader just didn't because he need the stuff and could have bested him in battle
Vadar in his prime with no limitations would literally force rape Palps half-asleep
francisco gerardo hernandez rivera true
I believe that if Vader got the suit upgrade, anakin may have come back
Sorry, but hell no. If he had a n improved suit, he'd be even more arrogant than anakin, and there is no way he'll be lighter
@@shankley-dr4if the suit he has inflicts pain on him. Which helps to keep Vader in control. So this guy is right. Anakin would have had a better chance of returning
@@shankley-dr4if he’s definitely right, if he had a better suit then he would be able to think more clearer and wouldn’t always be in pain, that’s why Vader is so powerful cause he’s in pain all the time which fuels the dark side for him
If vader had a better suit hed have drifted back to the light side in a few years.
No pain, means a clear mind, a clear mind means hed reflect and could reason AND be reasoned with.
The force ghosts of yoda and kenobi would help that along.
And the better suit means uncle crusty aka Palpatine wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hell against a light side returning Anakin.
5:26
"and ultimately being *BEATEN* by his father"
hmm
sounds like me everyday
bro. go get yoda
hiwhill SAME
What
Nice pfp mate
Bro what to talk
Vader: *Got a New Suit*
Also Vader: *Force Choke a Planet*
Death Star: Welp, I guess I am retiring
Edit: Welp a lot of people asking me about my pfp. Just want to make this clear, there is no Sauce.... as I am the one who drew it.... I am the Sauce. I think I pose most of my drawings in my Instagram so go check it out. tsuari_rindoku_
When?
Bruh that pfp
@@Ashutosh351998 shut up i didn’t ask
@@itwillbefridaythe1354 What?
@@itwillbefridaythe1354 that makes zero sense
what if anakin enjoyed sand?
RuggedALAN I love the sand, it's soft and it's smooth, and it doesn't get everywhere
RuggedALAN
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He would have taken Palpatine to the beach and a nice day in the sun with an ice cream and a ride on a donkey would bring Palpatine into the light side of the force! (An exert from the fully canonical star wars novel Anakin takes Palpatine to Blackpool)
he would be on scarif in rogue one
RuggedALAN
Maybe then he would of gotten the upgrads ,because is old breathing cybernetics would get f***** up by sand.
He would be more powerful in the dark side, because he urine to be at beach and couldn't.LMAO
what if anakin forgot his lightsaber in the jedi-temple, when he rushed to the senate to save palpatine?
lol, force choke mace maybe. Possibly force push him to startle him long enough for Palps to shock him.
Why not, parents forget and leave their kids in all sorts of weird places all the time, seems reasonable a jedi could forget to bring their one weapon which they hand crafted themselves in times of hostility.
Obi-Wan would be like "Anakin, this weapon is your life"
and Anakin would be like "I'm sorry master. I try master"
TSM Wukong he should totally make that video
I was toying with Windu. He would have died quickly.
Vader: When am I going to get my upgrade
Palpatine: Never
Vader: Wait why?
Palpatine: You could die
Vader: Ask me if I care
Palpatine: Ok well ur still not getting it
Basically imagine a version of Vader that was even more badass and scary from the original design. This means he’s faster, stronger and calmer to make less rash decisions among other things. This also means he has more time to dwell on his actions more clearly and less likely to punish himself as deeply as he has done. This probably will include the possibility of Vader turning over a new leaf and destroying the dark side entirely or at least enough to permanently take down Palpatine and move on from there. Or this would be bad for everyone for then he would be a stronger version of Vader which means it’s even harder for everyone...
Tbh this would've made the Star Wars universe more interesting and intense
It would have been an entirely different saga. As it stands now, it's a space tragedy... and that's pretty cool too
If this happened and someone made a video on "what would hapeen if darth v had a less powerfull soot" then u would be saying "ooh this is pretty cool i wish this happened
Finlay Giffen Nah.
What if Vader had General Grievous Tier cybernetics
Spider Vader
What if all of his armor was thick mandalorian iron and quantum crystalline alloy. He’d be invincible and with that and a more flexible suit, it’d be the same Vader it’d be just so easy, you’d think he was the main character
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He would have 4 lightsabers
And what if he had a light whip, "You shall not ...realize how stupid this idea is,
That concept art of his new suit looked badass.
Vader: destroys jedi order*
Also vader: turns to the light side*’
Also vader again: begins new game +
2:59 now that would be a bad ass Vader.
Ксения Ковалевская I think that that armor already exists in Legends. It's the armor of some dark jedi, but i can't remember the name.
Synister HD sure, then you might go to jail.
Agreed.
so worth it..
How come so many fan-girls have a crush on either me or my dad?
What if Obi wan's point of view of the story was true about Vader being a different character than Anakin and killing him.
This is what I've always wanted to know.
Marcus like they were two different people? that would be interesting, Vader would be lying to Luke when saying that he was his father
Then I'd imagine the twist would be that Obi-wan killed Luke's father.
Vader: Yes, I indeed killed your father Mwaaa ha ha ha ha!
Luke: Nooooooo!!!
I read an idea once that Vader was Luke's older brother. That would have been cool. Then again I also read an idea that Vader was Luke's mother...
There is an imposter in this comment section
you're both clones
Anakin Skywalker hello there
@@rion7088 General Kenobi!
Take a seat young Skywalker
Damn Anakin you are too stubborn !!
What if Obi Wan became a death stick addict?
Bad wataa bad
Wataaa! Your name means fuck.
hahaha
'oh i dont think so'
There actually is a video based off if Obi Wan took the death sticks
What if Vader had boots that fit.
Bryan Gutierrez slippers like Tarkin?
Sandals
I want to see THIS version of Star Wars.... This sounds awesome.
The power of fan fiction is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, unnatural
Yeah, having an elite suit would look cool, but honestly seeing someone so limited still be such a powerful force is more awe inspiring
the darth vader suit at 1:44 looks terrifying
Yeah, its a perfect replica of Obi-Wan!
Captain Rex suit’s eyes looks like bug eyes
it actually looks cool
Vader was holding back against Luke in episode 6 as he didnr truly want to kill his son.Luke himself said that he sensed the conflict in Vader.
2:03 his head looks like a vanilla strawberry icecream🤣🤣
Cannot unseen
And then there's this guy
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All in good fun, my guy 😄
@@N420jae 😅😅
I love this, holy shit. I love this so much. Like, with the sequel trilogy coming in full swing, think of Kylo Ren. He was so obsessed with Darth Vader, but if Vader lived and joined the Rebellion? Bruh, it would be wild.
What if anakin cloned padme and himself and ran away like padme wanted too?
Luke never beat Vader. Vader could have slaughtered him at any time but didn't due to him being his son. If luke was some random person Vader would have slaughtered him.
Luke definitely did beat Vader. That's the whole arc of the scene. Luke bested his father, but held back on killing him.
SonofSethoitae no palpatine told him to hold back, vader for sure could’ve bested him
@@eclectic2327 No he didn't
SonofSethoitae yes read a book dumb ass
@@eclectic2327 Citations or fuck off, asshole
I think Vader only lost the duel with Luke because he was conflicted, that's how he was pushed back in ESB and how he lost in ROTJ. It had nothing to do with his suit, he had compassion for his son.
Tom Barnes that's true although in this case the conflict wouldn't matter that much. with his suit being that much more powerful, he would beat luke.
Tom Barnes in Empire, he was holding back
I just want VADER with hes solo Movie.
With him alone (Not prequels) Hes such a grand character in my eyes.... the comics alone can be turn into 3 movies.
But it shouldn't be family friendly. It should show the true side of vader
so you want a star wars slasher film
Q5Grafx that would be incredible.
That will never happend because Disney ans so
Maybe a show
When the Vader killing sidious with his saber part came up it got me thinking why didn’t Vader force grab Luke’s saber at the end of episode 6 and just dehead palpatine
Or he could force push him down the reactor shaft instead of picking him up
Why am I always being beaten
Hey uh, why didn’t you just suck **all** of the life essence out of rey and kylo ren at the end of the rise of Skywalker?
@@jackattackanims8387 oh....
*Dang it...*
*behead
I always hoped Vader would survive, Anakin always has been my favorite character ;D
How can Anakin be your favorite palps? I thought you knew if he stayed as Anakin he would become more powerful then you and most likely of destroyed you entirely.
tony machaveli Tru, but it doesn't count since I changed my name last night
I'm going off the profile Pic! not the name! though pretty sure the senate only consists of you since no one can defy you without getting killed. YOU ARE THE SENATE!
tony machaveli ya but I changed my profile pic 2 too, I rebranded myself last night
it still showing up as palpatine your profile pic!
He would have killed palpatine way before the battle on the second death star
Yep, since Vader minutes later in the film was already thinking of killing Sidius. His great power also made him highly agressive.
Probably not
My understanding is that Vader always wanted revenge against Sideous. If he had the power, provided through a new suit almost certainly resistant to Force Lightning, he'd probably have tried to overthrow Sideous before the events of the original trilogy ever occurred. If he were successful, that would leave Vader effectively as the new emperor... but Anakin/Vader was never very manipulative or politically savvy, certainly not like Palpatine. I doubt the Empire would have lasted very long under his rulership.
Sidious' force lightning was always the main threat to vader's life. having prosthetics wired directly into your bone, muscle, and nervous tissue means any bolt that touches the prosthetics' metal it will ark directly to his brain and heart
He would have survived the upgrade anyways, his ties to the dark side has kept alive from worse.
It couldn’t be. It’s not like Vader didn’t have the authority to commission the development of a more powerful suit. He was beholden to the Lucasfilm merchandise licensing gods to give him a new suit post death in ROTJ
This timeline is so much better :)
TheNugget Bacon nope cause the thing convincing him allot in my opinion wad that palpatine wanted to see him die in the first place seeing how he was manipulated the whole time
The NuggetBacon sweat
3:00 that medieval Vader looks sick
He is not vader he is an other sith lord
@@rsigaming8990 who is it then
@@jamesburdon6797 its tulak hord i guess
After watching this. I simply feel a great sadness for Anakin and the love that he had for Padme. And how he let it all be lost. It’s such a resonant story.
He needs Tony stark to build him a prober Suit. Lol
Hes dead
@@sudd32x14 well so is Vader so
@@booty_hunter4207 yeah Lol
Duck off.
Cole Carron Iron Vader
vader is already OP he doesn't need a buff lol
Uto Resa 519 but still strong af
***** k
Tim™ Actually he was that Powerful. He is one of the SW universe which more killed Jedi in the history. He was the chosen one and a very experinced fighter. He was more warrior than Palpatine (Palpatine used more manipulation to solve his problem).
So yea, Vader is pretty badass.
+Dr Chopper Well said.
JoystickGames Palpatine would wreck Vader in a lightsaber duel and a force duel
Fuck it would be cool if this actually happened.
“...Because he was just so depressed that he didn’t even care enough to have it be fixed...” 😂
Yes, very ammusing....
Dude I love your channel man. Very thought provoking and really got my gears turning about the lore. Ive been on an endless rabbit hole of your videos these past few hours lol
Roses are red
Jedi's do tricks
Execute Order 66
Ethan awesome
jedi is plural
Doit
Jeez Palpatine
Ethan that is a good wan
Oh man, I would love to see an alternate universe where Vader turns back to the light side and helps Luke rebuilds the Jedi just like you mentioned.
It’s funny cause Vader is like 50 in ROTJ so he’s still got like another 30 years in him
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Technically he would have more, as his cybernetics, life support, will to live and the force would sustain him for far longer.
@@TheDarkMaster312 We could have had him in the sequal trilogy then
@@FromsoftgoatKaj na
@@mr.s845 ya
AWESOME!!!!!!! U know what, this was one of the most amazing theories you've done
Could you do a video on how the empire got the people to abandon their belief in the force?
In the prequel's The force is commonly accepted by The majority of the galaxy is being a real, if not completely understood thing even by the non-Jedi/Sith and those who have never heard of that before don't immediately reject it.
In the original saga however, we can plainly see especially in a new hope that's no longer the case. If I recall, there were at least 3 separate examples of not only the dismissal but almost the utter contempt for the force.
1. An imperial officer during the meeting sneered at Vader saying that his "sad devotion to that ancient religion" had failed to help in retrieve the death Star plans.
2. Tarkin, although far more polite held similar views and even confided them briefly to Vader, saying that Vader was all that was left of the ancient religion.
3. Han Solo outright scuffed and dismissed the force out right in front of Ben and Luke on the way to Alderon, calling it a hokey religion with ancient weapons.
I don't recall them doing anything like that in the Empire strikes back but in the return of the Jedi, both Janna and Han make dismissive comments about The force, particularly about the Jedi.
1. Jabba this misses his attendant saying that Luke is using "and old the Jedi mind trick" on him.
2. Han tells chewy that he thinks that Luke is crazy/delusional for calling him self a Jedi Knight now.
No it's interesting is that the rebel alliance on the other hand has a more tolerate if not sterile view of the force, numerous times saying "May the force be with you" much in the same way someone back in the day may say "go with God"
My question is, how did the empire succeed in effectively getting the majority of the galactic population to do a 180 on their views of the force. Going from excepting if not completely understood to write dismissal and distaste in just 20 years. In fact in the first two examples I mentioned, both at imperial officer and Tarkin (Turchin definitely) appeared to be old enough to have been around during the time of the clone wars so I can't understand how they could be so dismissive (yes I realize that the most obvious behind the scenes answer to this is that Lucas started with episode three as the first movie, but I'm of course curious if there is a in canon/legends explanation to this).
David Bonness Only way Ive ever made sense with that argument is that for everyone in the galaxy, they looked to the Jedi. After order 66 the empire kinda deminished the jedi reputation to traitors and corrupt individuals including their religion. Not sure if that helps or not but its how Ive made sense of it to some of my friends.
Not everyone believed in the Force, or even knew the Jedi were real. They may have thought that the Jedi were just propaganda.
Not everyone believed in the Force, or even knew the Jedi were real. They may have thought that the Jedi were just propaganda.
tarkin knew about the force and clearly remembered the Jedi. he even knew enough about the force and the ways of the sith to deduce that Vader was Anakin and that he was palpatines sith apprentice
Well, if you think about it, no one ever really got to see the jedi truly in action. As far as the general public could tell, the jedi order was just a very influential religious order & highly skilled combatants with a very distinctive weapon. Since the jedi made a point to never flaunt their power unnecessarily, most people would just dismiss the stories of their powers as rumours or myth.
What if Vader was thelegend27
Jeffthebird he is
Jeffthebird dun dun dunnnnnn but isn't thelegend27 a girl
Jeffthebird I heard he can throw a t-65 farther than a catapult.
I heard he defeated an entire army in a single force push
Sans The Skelepun But,just when you think your safe,Vader will find you
WHAM!
Vader’s suit never exactly made him weaker, it just made him a lot more vulnerable to lightning and made him much slower, but not weaker overall to everything besides lightning
This video also is kinda how everything would’ve went if Vader’s suit was more like malgus suit, based off the video cover photo
You rock man, great content!
do a what if Anakin didn't burn
Then obi wan will kill him . And probably won't change almost anything becuse anakin's limbs are ok
Krisko 05 his limbs would still be gone, he just wouldn't have burned when he fell close to the lava.
xXDarkSmoke35 Xx. ik that but he still wouldn't have hated himself so much.And wouldn't have the suit/burnt lungs.
Saturn sidious would have him embrace his already persona as a hero and by killing off all the other Jedi paint them as evil and the true Jedi were in support of the empire
Man how I wish this could be true.. We would be watching Star Wars 20 by now.
But this must mean....
If darth vader can't raise his arms over his head...
But he CAN swing a lightsaber...
*H E C A N L O C K H I S A R M S I N A T - P O S E*
*H A I L T H E A L M I G H T Y P O W E R*
*indeed*
Corec
Now this is an epic gamer comment
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IMAGINE THE SCENES IN JEDI FALLEN ORDER BUT IT'S VADER T-POSING OH MY GOSH I CAANNNTTTT
I personally loved the redeemed Vader story arc in the comics it really brought the "one who will bring balance to the force" prophecy to fruition.
Why can't this be a movie
What if Obi-Wan refused to take Anakin as his padawan
+The Entorm Then Obi wan would be a dick to Qui Gon.
william Cooper LOL but for real I want to know what could happen like in the future so I hope Star Wars Theory makes a video about it
My guess would be that Palpatine would take Anakin as a secret student under the childish "I will show you the force in secret but don't tell anyone" reasoning, making Anakin a secret Sith under the guise of a Senat Member.
This would even be more dangerous since he would have lived a close life to Padmé and he would have the power to convince the senate earlier to give Palpatine emergency powers instead of making Jar Jar a pawn in this game and killing Anakins mother guides him down the path of darkness without him having someone to talk to.
Also, the fight on Geonosis would be different, probably with a masked Anakin supporting Dooku and most likely, due to his chances of losing to Obi-Wan, his apprentice and Yoda, he would not only manage to score a kill on Obi Wans Padawan but also betray Dooku by mortally wounding him, not only to shock the Jedi but also to show Sidious that Anakin passed the test of becoming Sidious's new apprentice.
Over the years of the Clone Wars Obi-Wan found a new Padawan (I'll take her losely because it is the only Padawan we know had no master shortly after episode 2) in Ahsoka Tano who was a way more balanced individual since her trainer was also a more calm minded person.
When entering the Invisible Hand, Grievous will encounter the Jedi Team of Kenobi and Tano directly, who will die upon the verssel and the Jedi plus Palpatine being able to flee.
This ruse is used by Palpatine to send Anakin and deal with the remaining seperatists in "meetings" so he has no opposition to the Empire.
Without the amount of friends in politics, namely Padmé, the order has less of a political insight and without Anakin, the Jedi would only assume who the Sith could be.
After the seperatists forfeit most of the systems, Palpatine constructs a plot to get Padmé close to the Jedi temple before birth so he could push him to Order 66 even more, because Obi Wan and him stll had a very good relationship.
Seeing Padmé die in the Jedi temple due to child birth and the Jedi taking the children in due to the Skywalker name and the high potential they held, Anakin pushed Sidious to drop the act and enact Order 66 spearheaded by Anakin.
Many masters were on their way back from the won clone wars, but shot down and killed in space.
Obi-Wan, Yoda and Mace were in the temple however and ready to take on the clones. However they were not prepared to see Anakin.
While more Clones due to the earlier ending and systematic destruction of the CIS were on Coruscant, the Jedi of the temple were overwhelmed, if not for the masters and the Jedi, who weren't on other planets fighting wars.
Don't get me wrong, it was still a slaughter, but less than there was more of a resistance force.
While Mace and Yoda took on the clones coming their way with ease, Obi Wan and his apprentice Ahsoka. Since Obi-Wan took on the role as Anakins main opponent, he would get knocked off his feeton the cold floor of the temple.
He then would take on Ahsoka and get her into a submissive position then slowly torturing her by mutilating her body or even face with his lightsaber and taunting Obi-Wan who then sees a second Padawan being close to death by the same person who played him not only most of his life, but caused him grief and emotional stress beyond what he could take.
Obi-Wan would then succumb to his anger this one time, activate his lightsaber, lying on the ground, deactivated and while pulling the blue sabre towards himself, push Anakin against a wall, who would not have been prepared for this attack, since he fell too deep into the enjoyment of hurting Ahsoka. Obi Wan would go in for the kill and not play around, taking his Padawan into the medical ward which was riddled with already dead or close to being, Jedi.
With Vader, the biggest resistance died and the clones were not only driven back, but for the first time in a campaign of victories, defeated in a way that they had to give up and were not a threat while the Jedi went in to storm palpatines seat.
Arriving there, Palpatines royal guard assembled who were no match for the abilities of the Jedi.
On the contrary. Palpatine's last line of defense was himself and he was overpowered with an order of Jedi attacking him scoring kills on Kit Fisto and two Jedi knights but the others not even getting scratched due to their sheer size in numbers.
While the masters of the order were discussing the fate of Palpatine and he himself knowing the outcome would be execution, tried to kill the Jedi with a last attempt of force lightning, dying by the hands of Mace Windu, who was slightly hit but still not hard enough to stop his blow.
The aftermath of the scenario would be:
A new senat
no empire
the downfall of the clone army
the training of Luke and Leia
the CIS not being a factor anymore
the Jedi still existing but officially retreating out of the republics political business
the downfall of the sith
Obi-Wan retreating from his council seat which would be later taken by his padawan him going somewhere unknown and meditating and learning about his mistakes and his failures
the defunding of the death star project and recycling of the station
Renekin Not being rude but I rather watch a video on what could happen so yah
Then someone else would of took him under their wings! Yoda perhaps.
Good stuff my man. I dig going into your back logs of content.
What if Vader got his limbs cut off but didn’t burn
What if limbs cut off but Obi Wan saves him instead of yelling at him while he burns
Vader should take up scrapbooking
He wouldn't have time you know killing Jedi and fighting his son
If Vader did return to Endor with Luke I doubt everyone would have a change of heart just like that, Vader would've most likely be tried and executed for his crimes.
Jaylen Davis yeah, Vader could rip through the rebellion prisons and with Luke helping him it would be pretty easy
Phil Thomas Also let's not forget he killed children.
"bro, you killed children though."
" That's because from my point of view..."
"Kill him"
Jaylen Davis let them try
His new suit sounds cool and all but would he still sound like James Earl Jones?
No he would sound more like mufasa
Your version actually sounds super cool, I'm imagining movies and moments about this
who else thought this was a stupendous wave vid
Koriemthekoreancoral fish both are awesome
Koriemthekoreancoral fish I did lol
I don't understand why the films couldn't have been written this way. It feels more satisfying, and I personally didn't like seeing Vaders physical form dying. I too feel he should have lived and become anakin in his suit once more
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I know this was posted 3 years ago but it just popped up and it’s a really cool video!! I watched it twice!
I love the images of Vader’s improved suit, I’ve seen the main picture various times over the years, but never any of the other images of it.
A Vader suit mixing with a Malgus suit would've been OP
Devil of Hell's Kitchen or Darth Marr
The suit vader had was already a superior suit to the one Malgus had! better technology after all.
Devil of Hell's Kitchen malgus was never burned though
Vader was only about 45 or so when he died in episode 6, he probably could have helped prevent Admiral Thrawn's revenge and live to see the Yuuzhan Vong War and the Second Galactic Civil War (assuming it still happened). It's even possible Darth Krayt would have come out of hiding earlier to settle his grudge with Anakin Skywalker and thus possibly ensuring the Jedi never would have fallen yet again.
jared ellis The Yuuzhan Vong would hear the stories of Vader's ferocity and brutality and would run screaming back to whence they came, fearing the consequences of threatening the galaxy he again swore to protect.
jared ellis he weren't that old I would imagine that in episode 3 ROTS anakin is around 20 at the latest
Nah its in the offical star wars timeline, he was 45 at the time of his death in Return of the Jedi.
thank you again. i would like to see more of this time line. i think it would be good to see a different out come.
Omg bro this had me so pumped!!! I would love to see this fan fiction manifested in film. Thank your for a great "what if" scenario!!!
I kinda like one where he has a Bane (from Batman) type respirator, and reverts back to the hooded cloak look. Maybe newer ocular implants can make his eyes glow red! >:)
His eyes glow red anyway...
God i wish this version of vader exsisted
Damn..... THAT WAS AWESOME and reallllllly deep! damn now i want to see that on the big screen
Love the chain of events that you put down.
Man, the idea of Vader staying alive to help Luke bring up a new Jedi order sounds amazing! I really would love to see that.!
I loved your story!
I love the Darth Vader music you added at the end
This is my favorite Theory ever now thank you
Now i'm picturing a MGR Raiden with force powers!
That would have been Vader honestly
Vader isn't even as hammy and emo as Raiden.
If I were Vader I'd keep the ability for the resparator to make the iconic breathing sound for the purpose of intimidation, just adding an off switch
Bob Bobson the only reason it's intimidating is because it shows how fucked up Vader is physically, and the fact that he can still kill you no matter what.
I love this this story really want to know more about! Thank you 😊
"Anakin Skywalker, Sith Lord. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic man. Anakin Skywalker will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster. He will become... Darth Vader."
"being extremely sensitive to force lightning"
- correction: ANY lightning, as shown in the Vader comics