WIX vs Fram Ultra vs WIX XP vs Walmart Supertech Oil Filters Review - CUT OPEN AND WEIGHED!
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- WIX XP vs Fram vs Walmart SuperTech vs WIX oil filter. Find out which one is made the best and why you pay more for a WIX XP.
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I used to work at Wix Filtration Products in OKC. We made some part numbers for a lot of people. NAPA Fram Purolator Donaldson AC Delco ECT. We didn't make all of a particular brand. The main difference was the media(paper) and tap plate. And yes I realize our plant made mainly air filters but we were the divisions test lab.
Thanks for the info. Do you remember all the brands WIX use to manufacturer for? Besides the ones you already mentioned? Did they make Supertech, Walmart’s brand?
@@bundysgarage some of the Super tech. I stopped working for them when they left OKC for the east coast. Some of the brand's besides the ones mentioned were Air Refiner, Perry ( coolant filters) Deutsch, Mopar, Pennzoil, Motorcraft, and Lee. I'm sure there were others. I was the CNC machinist and worked in tool shop. For the record the main difference was the filter media.
Superbly useful comment, a useful addition here.
Fram has become rather notorious for crappy filters, but I know they make more expensive ones. I just stick with supertech filters and synthetic oil. No problems
My anxiety level goes up when I see an orange filter on a vehicle when I'm working on it.....lol
Meh, it gets the job done. just not built for extended intervals.
I’d rather push my Chevy than drive a Ford!
CLICK BAIT Title Which filter destroyed the engine was dishonest. Why should I believe anything else has to say. I won't!
Pay attention idiot,...the title dont say that on this video !
Guys don’t look at titles, they look at pretty girls on thumbnails.
To be honest, the splash screen says Which one destroyed the engine? This is a clear indication of a clickbait.
Steve Lamperta Strangely, for me the link I clicked on in my suggestions said something like "Which filter destroyed the engine" but the titles on this page is different.
Same, which filter destroys the engine
The title says Fram Ultra, the one on the video was not an ultra, it was the basic model filter.
I want my 8 minutes back from the misleading thumbnail & sloppy comparison.
TOO BAD
LOL
just because you didn't get it.go learn something apparently your not capable from this video.
Bill C I agree this video is all over and they stuff isn’t lined up on the tables to see what goes to what
See my main comment. Just wanted to share a true story pertaining to KIDS when it comes to anything relating to the automotive industry: The VERY LAST TIME I ever used a quick-change oil station, ( and it was one of the few times ever ) in my town, was because it was part of the CASTROL franchise. I always kept Castrol 10w30 in my 2000 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 that I bought new. ( I still have this truck. With 330,000 miles on all original motor, drive train, CV joints, starter, alternator, etc. It still runs & drives like the day I drove it off the lot. ) I figured "what the heck" due to KNOWING they would use Castrol. But there was this KID down in the pit. He looked every bit of 17 yrs old to me anyway. ( I was about 40 at the time. ) So I get the truck serviced & leave. Very next morning, my entire concrete driveway was COVERED IN OIL. Boy was I PISSED. That kid was still there when I went back. That little punk tried to tell me to my face that "Oil drain plug threads NATURALLY STRIP about every 4th oil change"....and I'm not making this up!!! I about blew his head off when I started yelling & screaming at him. That boy was SHAKING when he ran for his boss. Come to find out, that punk dropped MY drain plug into a tray FULL of misc drain plugs, and he just grabbed one at random!!! He actually FORCED that damned plug into my oil pan. Come to find out, it was the oil drain plug from A CHRYSLER.....that he forced & cross threaded into my "Toyota". His boss paid to re-ream my drain hole 1 size over & corresponding new plug AND paid to have my driveway 100% cleaned. But he KEPT that kid. Even though the kid LIED to my face. It's one thing to SCREW UP.........but DON'T LIE TO ME about "how & why it happened". ( I've changed my own oil hundreds of times before I ever went there, and in every vehicle I ever owned. ) That was the LAST time I've ever used any quick-change oil service. They ALL lie like hell about "greasing all of your chassis" and "checking the lube in the rear diff", etc, etc. I've busted them all by standing in their parking lot about 20 feet BEHIND my vehicle. You can see right down in that pit. They didn't do ANY of those "included services" they claim for the price. But I FORCED them to get back down there & DO THE DAMNED JOB THEY CLAIMED. Today, NONE of them will allow you to stand in the parking lot to WATCH them in the pit. They claim "for insurance reasons".......even though dozens of people park their car & walk across that parking lot every day to ask questions in their office. Another time, they spilled SO much oil on TOP of my engine that when I stopped at the first red traffic light, the blue smoke billowed out so thick, NOBODY could see at that intersection....LOL!!! How EMBARRASSING. Yes, I went straight back. All of the above is why I never used those places very much, and then quit entirely. I could grease & change the oil on most anything when I was 10 yrs old. So I say to everyone: BEWARE!!! JUST DO THE SIMPLE JOBS YOURSELF.
I've only paid for an oil change once. That was in 1981 They put the wrong plug in my pan as well. Constant slow drip..... A neighbor took his f350 in for an oil change and they talked him into changing the rear diff fluid. They put a non LSD oil into a LSD diff. Starting slipping a day later so he took the truck to Ford. Kudos to ford in diagnosing the issue proper. They changed the fluid and he forced the lube shop to reimburse him. NEVER EVER will I pay somebody else to do such a simple task.
A lady friend bought a new firebird, saw oil under it. I looked , the recent oil shop failed to tighten the filter. Best to do things yourself.
If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.
I had a tire changed at a Wal-Mart TLE once. The tire they mounted was the right brand and type, but it was the wrong size. It was so big that it was rubbing the inside of my wheel well. I drove 100 feet or so and realized something was wrong. Those type of places don't hire the best and the brightest.
Yup, like many others, I too have been burned on the rare instances that I entrusted service on my '87 Buick GN to someone other than myself. In one case, it was a Big-O store. I do 99% of my own work - even on major repairs, but on one occasion due to time constraints on a problem which developed midweek when my work schedule didn't afford me any time and I didn't have a running back-up car, I used Big-O for a right front ball joint replacement. Cpl days later on the weekend, as I was taking a corner at low speed and encountered a bump, my car suddenly collapsed on the right suspension and tire. Turns out, the tech failed to properly torque and then secure the ball joint castle nut w/ a cotter pin! Nut worked its way loose and the ball joint popped out of the control arm while driving. Cldn't believe it. And then the Big-O mgr was planning to compound the problem by installing used replacement parts to fix their mistake (when the car was only abt 3 yrs old at the time). I told him in no uncertain terms that he wld use new OEM parts verified by me or see me in court.
On one other occasion when I decided to take advntg of an oil change special - at a Firestone shop, I believe - that was only going to cost abt the same as what the parts alone wld cost me not incldg my time, and figured 'how can they screw up an oil change?' - right? Well, they managed to loosen the center fitting the filter spins onto drg the change - so down the road the fitting w/ the attached filter worked loose and the car started hemorrhaging oil. Fortunately I caught it before the engine ran dangerously low. Now I just don't trust anyone to do work on my car (or my house) b/c I just can't trust them to do as good a job as I do (except in the very rare instances on specialty installs/repairs where non-franchise shops come highly recommended by multiple sources.)
What does weight have to do with an oil filter's ability to protect an engine? Also, curious, why are the fiber end caps worse than the metal? Do you have some data to show that the fiber end caps are inferior? Or is this just conjecture?
Just conjecture.A lot of modern cartridge type filters have"cardboard' ends (Transit ,Ranger Fusion/Mondeo etc,etc) and the only real problem they have is gorillas either over tightening the screw on plastic cap or using the wrong tool to remove said cap and cracking them.Where I work we would average 20-25 oil and filter changes daily and the only rework problem we have had is leaking canister filters(usually Fram).
The job of the filter is to filter out impurities in the oil - different filter material may filter out smaller (or larger) particle size. NOTHING done in this video compares the filtration properties or life of the filter. This comparison and others on TH-cam cutting the filters apart are worthless - ask the manufacturers for their test results! More filter area is not necessarily better if it passes larger particle sizes. I am sure validation testing was done on each design. Manufacturers do try to cut costs by changing the design and materials; however, I am sure these are validated to meet manufacturers specs. I know - I worked in Quality Control and Reliability for General Motors. This video is a waste of time!
AMEN.
Then go use the fram filter if you belive its great just because it looks awful lel
Terry Zimmermann 100% accurate statement. Frequent changes and being cognizant of changing regularly are far more important.
WHAT? G.M. has quality control?
You must use FRAM
I've known for a while that Fram makes crappy filters. I have a Toyota with over 250,000 and still runs like new. I change the oil only with OEM Toyota oil and filters. I also use a car management program on my computer th-cam.com/video/3LUayHH1yZA/w-d-xo.html that monitors the maintenance schedule and reminds me when any type of service is required. Seems to be working quite well :)
Fram was definitely getting behind on the times. I stopped using them completely. I think they finally realized it.... Check out the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. I believe they upped their game big time
Been using FRAM filters,off and on, for about 55 years with NO problems. The one thing I love about the FRAM is the 'grippy' end on the can. Makes changing it a LOT easier. Have fun, be safe and stay dirty. CHEERS!
If you want to try , tape off the end of the filter of choice and spray rubber bed liner on let it set up then install. We used this idea on our race cars. It does work and is cheap.
ojars zvaigzne they make for great target practice out on a gun range.
I would use only highest class Fram and not the low class.
Which Fram do you use now?
I think the Tough Guard is excellent value and performance.
All my life, my dad used Fram Filters on all his vehicles. He maintained and rebuilt his own engines. So he put a lot of hard work and money into his cars and trucks and Fram Filters is what he chose to put in them. I followed his lead and I have put Fram Filters in all my vehicles for the past 30 years. Not one single issue or problem. I have a 2000 Ford Explorer with almost 300,000 miles on it and Fram is all that SUV has seen.
You OPENED my eyes! Thank you!
Which one destroyed the engine?
Brit Jamaine - Sounds of crickets after you asked the same question I have.
I seen that too when I clicked on the video ... now I don't see it ???
FRAM Sucks Ruined my engine
@@joem4452 How did a Fram filter ruin your engine? If you have the documentation to prove it, sounds like Fram owes you an engine.
None did, all work. Useless info.
I have used FRAM oil filters all my life without any problem and I am 78. I am not going to stop now. I used to used supertech oil but have used a more expensive oil for quite some time now. I think I will go back to supertech. I have a 1995 Tacoma that does not use any oil between changes. I think changing it at the proper interval is the most important thing.
You said it bast at the end, the proper intervals. Most people never check their oil or coolant on a monthly basis on their vehicles. Let alone get oil and filter changes. Silly people
The Frams do look like crap in video with their construction. Having said that, I’ve never known anybody with a problem with them and I believe they filter to around 90% efficiency. If you
look at a lot of OEM filters from Toyota and Honda, many of them don’t even have end caps, just a glued ring near the center to keep it together.
Cutting open unused filters is pointless. If you want to see a used one I cut open visit my channel.
You don't have any testing data. Like the one that fram wins at. Capacity, flow, microns,chemical reactions. Just cause you think a spring is fun you dismiss the fram. Utube has so many experts.
Don Berry the spec for fram is on their site.
Just thinking out loud but I wonder if the filter element itself would be more likely to adhere(with adhesive) to a metal end cap or say a “cardboard” end cap.
Hello Mr Bundy great video can you tear a part a honda A01 and the honda A02 (FRAM) oil filters I also see that the 1.80 sangean oil filters are good?
We use FRAM HP-1 for endurance road (12 hours at a time) racing and have for twenty years. Everything that might work against it for a street car makes it a better racing filter. The Fram is lighter, has a less restrictive filter element while still doing a good (not great) filtering job, has a superior burst resistance in the HP-1 to the other filters (one of our main reasons to use it), and we change filters and oil often, so we don't have street use filter element disintegration.
The stamped metal piece you think is acting as a spring is a brace supporting a flexible ring. The flex ring is the spring. Under pressure, the ring collapses and allows flow. No pressure, the ring expands back outward and the stamped plate stops flow, preventing drainback.
I'd prefer a spring design, but the FRAM anti-drainback has never failed us, and we're a dry sump oiling system that would cause engine case overfill if we had drainback with the engine off and sitting still.
@cadzillals6 Fram tough guard 99% efficiency at 20 microns
Most off-brand and private label oil filters are manufactured by a company called Champion Laboratories they are all virtually about the same filter
JoJo Siwa napa gold is just a WIX filter and nothing more
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Yup , a 1515 Napa is a 51515 wix.
On a wix the first number designates it’s use.
5 is motor oil
3 is fuel.
One clue to see if a filter is a rebadged wix is to know the wix filter number for the filter you are obtaining.
Btw the 51515 wix is one of the most commonly used filter bases. Ford 2.3, 300, 460 uses em.
A lot of Japanese and some euro cars use that base , but a smaller diameter.
It’s the same base as a Briggs v twin also.
Anyone using a wix 51515 should know there is a heavy duty 2 quart filter , wix number 51773.
I use em on my Briggs.
No, they make them according to the needs and price of the customer. They are usually the cheaper version, not the highest quality.
Oreilly's Microguard filters are made by WIX
Super cool video! I would like to see more results of the higher end filters. Thanks for making this!
The Supertech was actually GOOD? Did I miss this,....are any of these good for full synthetic oils?
This is interesting because I have noticed over the last few years the quality of the Fram filters has gotten worse. The rubber gaskets tend to stay on the block and they are made in Canada or Mexico. I purchased a Super Tech filter from Walmart for my 2010 Camry at the last oil change. $2.84 vs $8.00 for Fram. I noticed the ST is made in USA. After 5000 miles I changed oil and filter today. Filter held together perfectly. I changed it out with another Supertech. One-third the price and made in USA with good quality made it a no-brainer...
I understand that Wix makes filters for quite a few companies to their (not Wix's) specification. Now that he's got them all apart he might unfold the filter media and see how long it is between all the filters. Longer = more/better filtering I suspect.
Counting the pleats will give you very close answer. Quality of the filter media is also of significant concern.
Why did you not weight the Supertech and conpare to rhe regular wix?
I watch your wash machine repair sometime ago. Made few improvents. Learn lot from u
I have lots car oil left from the past. I wish to know in your opinion. Is it ok to mix one quart to 4 quart manufacture specify oil?
The Wix Xp is a fully synthetic. Medium. Might be why it's thicker
Excellent video and very informative.
Been sick for last two days so I've been binge watching many of these cut away oil filter vids. They ALL show Fram as crappiest filter around. I have 5 cars, currently all with a Fram. NEVER again will I buy one.
Well, to me, I have been driving since 1969 and in many times, I used Fram filters. I am currently using Fram on 1974 Toyota Celica. In the past, I tested using different types of Fram filters, some shorter, some wider, not even called for my vehicle. But with over 300,000 miles on it, engine never been rebuilt, I am getting around 155 in compression reading. I usually do not go by exactly 3,000 miles oil change schedule, but to me, actual color of the oil (how dirty the oil color is) more important due to acidity in oil, which is the main enemy for the engine. All different Fram filters I used so far, all seem to work just fine and I did not encounter any problems. I think the main thing here is that as long as you don't push your luck with the oil and change it + or - 3,000 miles and see if it is getting dirty, change it, don't push your luck. Then just use any reputable oil filters as long as specs (such as drain valve, Relief valve pressure, flow rate, microns and other specs are similar) to the correct filter for the car is the same and fitting is the same. Dimensions did not matter to my car as I had done many years. Why pay so much more for extended or super filters if you are going to change it at or around 3,000 or whenever oil starts to get dirty with acid build up? You are just wasting your money for paying extra and hoping it will last 20,000 miles before the oil change.
I've used Fram oil filters for decades and never had a problem.... I can see that the others are made with higher quality parts, but the Fram still seems to get the job done effectively. Had 221,000 miles on my Hyundai Elantra GT when I sold it and it was still quiet running, no excessive bearing wear!!
I've been a fan of BundysGarage for a few years. Myself , having no proof I've never liked FRAM FILTERS . I used WIX for years, Now I use Mobil 1 FILTERS and OIL. Don't fall for the Manufacturers CROC about letting the oil go 5K or longer. Change your oil and filter according to Your Car's Owner's Manual. Thanks for the video and comparison.
Thanks for watching my videos!
Very good video. Good comparison of those filters.
unfortunately, i can not see the value of this video? Just cutting it opend and lookuing at any differences doesnt tell much about the ability. How are you goning to tell which filter destroys your engine, because of this video? I will call this a clickbait, becaues the only thing, which tells about the quality - what particle size does the filter catch, how is the flow rate of new and used filter, nothing has been done.
We use microguard filter at our shop for most cars, it's Oreilly's house brand and made by Wix for the past 2 years. Pretty good filter and good price.
Why the musical filters? Which actually filters oil the best?
2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6 over half a million miles all I've ever used is the cheapest Fram oil filter I could use over half a million miles who wants to try and argue with that! I pull the valve covers off at four hundred and fifty thousand miles to change my valve cover gasket and you could eat off the inside of that engine the cam lobes were beautiful they all miked perfect so again you want to try and argue with that nothing but Fram Baseline oil filters the proof is in the pudding not in taking filters apart how the motor look inside that's the answer!
Maybe it's not only all the Fram filters you used kept your Tacoma in tip top shape, but perhaps Tacoma itself, which is perhaps one of the most reliable pick up ever made?
Wix XP is an all synthetic media with no paper (cellulose fibers). That's the major difference. It's designed for longer term use, as well as for high capture and low flow resistance. It's glass fibers mean that it can last for significantly longer than any paper media.
Made in China
what is the micron particle per million of the cartridge? that is the true measurement of how well the filter works
I have a Honda that uses Mobil 1A1 filter how does it compare ?
Should have shown the Fram XG. I use the Fram XG 7317 on my 06 Honda Ridgeline. These are full synthetic Media with screen backing silicone ADBV metal caps. A very good filter under $10.00 at Walmart.
Heads up on the supertech, it looks like they may have recently changed their suppliers. Local walmarts here have been blowing out the old ones. The new boxes show internals on the outside and they look an awful lot like fram.
Jeff Beck I commented on this earlier because yes, there is new filters by supertech that are redesigned and are worse quality.
AC Delco/STP
Yeah, I saw new box supertech. I'd like to know if the filter internals have changed, it is just a box facelift.
New supertech is $2.84 at my wallyworld
Jeff Beck the Supertech filters made from 2016 to 2017 were made by WIX, few people knew about it, they were high quality filters. The new 2018 Supertech filters are made by Champion Labs, it is the exact same filter as the AC Delco filters.
Cardboard inside the one ones! Total crap.
Whoooaaa Bundy!! Life's a garden go dig it up!
I changed the oil in a car a few years back that had a Supertech filter on it. The supertech filter did not have an anti drain back valve. The filter was mounted at a downward angle in that particular car.
Been through the wix factor. Pretty awesome what goes into making these. I have one made of plexiglass. They also make the Napa gold filters.
Will Johnson WIX was always pretty good, and they've been around forever
Will Johnson Yup good stuff. Also i use mobil1 (oil & filters) and royal purple oil filters ( not oil! ).
Wix makes all of Napa filters even the proselects
Why don’t you use Royal Purple oil?
WIX makes oreillys house brand filters as well (microgaurd)
To be safe, just buy a Purolator standard oil filter. If you want the best, Buy a mobile one oil filter.. The weight of the housing or of the filter assembly isn’t a true test of quality. What’s the bypass element made of? Cardboard? Or rubber? How restrictive is the filter element? Does it have a backflow preventer? Don’t forget to oil the meeting gasket surface, fill the oil filter before you put it on the car so there’s not a lapse in time before you build oil pressure, don’t forget to clean the threads in the filter before you install it,because it has thread cutting debris in the threads
Purolator is made by WIX at the same plant in N.C. If interested and you live close go by the plant and I am sure they would give a tour. I have been thru and learned alot.
Good point to make about filling the filter with oil before installing.
I’ll stick to AC Delco and Dexos approved oil. A good oil change is much cheaper then ruining an engine.
Mobil 1 filters are made by Fram. I called Mobil 1 oil filter customer support and Fram answered the phone.
Jody Frenak f53 cc cc
The spring in the bottom of the filter cans is to allow bypass in the event of a full clog.
where is link to cutting open elements, didn't see it
That FRAM oil filter was garbage I will never buy one of them again
Yep, garbage
of course it was, its the bottom of the barrel, and it wasnt even the ultra
shawn zorzenon me ttoo.
Yeah me neither.
That is not a fram ultra. It is better than any of those filters shown.
My mechanic has had to rebuild over 25 engines because the Fram came apart, plugged the oil ports and ruined the engines! Wix is the absolute BEST!
Lloyd Morrison IIThanks bro. This is very important information!!!
My mechanic has had to rebuild over 25 engines because the Wix came apart, plugged the oil ports and ruined the engines! Fram is the absolute BEST!
@@rabbicovidstein4421 It has been proven many times that Fram is garbage. Wix makes one of the best as well as makes filters for many different brands, all of which are far superior to Fram.
My car (2018 Toyota) uses a cartage oil filter so I get to see how well the filter is made before I buy it. For what it's worth Toyota OME's are just paper with plastic caps.
What about mobile1, carquest (advanced auto brand), or K&N oil filters? We run those on everything.
How about the Amsoil filters?
Nice Filters...but Pricey!
super tech was made by champion. been using super tech for years. I put more emphasis on changing my oil at 3000 miles using good SN rated oil. No so much emphasis on the piece of paper
Yes I totally agree with you. But I don’t understand brands like Amsoil that promote 25,000 oil change intervals.
Amsoil prescribes that you use their filters and change them regularly and add more oil.
@@bundysgarage They use a much more advanced filter element and the best components, all silicone anti drainback valves, (cheaper filters use rubber)better springs and heavier cans, etc. The white element in the XP is a synthetic filter element and therefore has a higher mileage/change rating than the regular Wix Which is a cellulose blend and fine for less mileage . The XP element is kinda similar to the Amsoil but a tad lower efficiency/ micron rating Which means the size of particle that can pass thru. These can hold much more matter before clogging as well. They also recommend Amsoil full synthetic oil which is like night and day compared to conventional motor oil. I have used Amsoil or else a Mobil 1/Royal Purple filter full synthetic and both made by Champ labs in the usa and full synthetic Schaeffers motor oil and have for decades and have gone 20,000 miles on oil changes and have torn the engine down many years later with nearly 0 apreciable engine wear but you could never do this with regular oil or filters. I generally go 10-15,000 between changes usually just to be extra conservative myself lately tho. Champ makes tons of filters for tons of customers each made to different specs tho. The Mobil /Royal Purple are their best imho. The only thing better is a Amsoil but by very little. (Its totally their exclusive element material)
I went to walmart for oil change. Me an my dad just did a oil change ourselves using the car manuf own filter. THe OEM filter was $5. The OEM filter was much larger than the Supertech almost twice the size...
Super tech oil filters are only down to 30 microns. Fram does a better job at down to 20 microns. Fram tough Guard has 99 percent efficiency at 20 microns so that piece of paper is better, it say it on both of there boxes.
Steppenwolf- 'I said Gawd Damn, GAWD DAMN! The 'Fram' man...'
That part in the fram filter is a leaf spring designed to flex under pressure but not by trying it by hand...... not saying that makes the filter any better just letting you know what it is.
You are correct fram filters are not worthy of any lawn mower let alone a car or truck. Great video keep up the good work
Unless you buy OEM you’ve bought lower quality because none of the aftermarket filters can duplicate OEM there’s something slightly different just enough to keep a law suit from being filed for copyright infringement. So you’re right in the findings, in my opinion they’ll work unless you’re using it in a severe duty commercial application then you’ll learn an expensive lesson.
The aftermarket filter makers like Purolator are OEMs for a lot of factory filters. The Ford/Motorcraft FL-1A used to be a Purolator filter, but I think they switched to someone else.
Not true with all brands. OEM Subaru filters are not so hot so hot and they are now suffering a shortage which caused them to change suppliers. Purolater US Honeywell Canada were making them WIX and NAPA are the only ones set to duplicate oil bypass preessure and the best quality filter other then the hard to get Subaru Japan are Mobil 1 or Bosch. You can use OEM but there are far superior filters available.
Just making some observations before I bought the "average" filter, the SuperTech looked identical to the AC Delco. I am also cautious about high efficiency filters regarding pressure drop - especially on engines with higher mileage (lower oil pressure).
Just curious. Why wouldn't you compare the OE filter as well?
The only thing missing , is an OE filter .
so a mann filter made one like almost all OE filters.
click bait. makes as much sense as saying a 5000# car is better than a 3500# car.
Your mom’s click bait
Been using Fram filters for over 30 years...NEVER had a problem...would love to know what issues people are having...I change my filters and oil every 3k...maybe these people are waiting g too long?
be nice to know where these filters are made at
OMG! All these years I've always thought Fram oil filter were superior but now they can't even compares to SuperTech brand. Lucky me, I was cheap so I bought SuperTech oil and filter instead. I guess my gust instinct dose works . LOL
theyre still ok and good enough if you change your oil on time, do you know what kind of trouble the filter makers would get into if their products were so bad that it was harmful to use them lol
WIX makes the NAPA brand filters I know for sure, if they do make the Supertech, I'll buy that next time. Your oil filter cutter either needs a new blade or you need a different brand cutter. The FRAM Ultra's, $8 at WalMart is just as good as any you've shown.
I have always heard that Fram oil filters were no good. Your video proved it. Thanks!!
He avoided using the expensive FRAM filter, for whatever reason.
theyre still ok
I dont use those frames filters they did have more filtration area than the others did and being taller than the others didn't need the spring like the others.
Wouldn't use fram on my lawn mower!!
Kevin 3
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No, yours is the best comment
I wouldn't either, but then again my lawn mower doesn't have an oil fiter...lol.
As frequently as i change my vehicles oil (~5k miles), i dont really see much point in spending a lot on a filter. As a happy medium between filtration and price imho, i use fram tough guard and havent had any issues with it. I will pay a little more for good quality oil though, i like and use castrol edge (full synthetic).
What is the beta ratio on each of these?
Very informative. Thank you.
Pretty sure SuperTech filter are made by Champion.
They are!
Metal end caps don’t mean a thing. Have you seen cartridge filters? No metal core or end caps. In fact no end caps at all
So true a lot of the newer cars use the filter cartridge that goes inside the engine and none of them have metal end caps!
My 2010 Toyota Corolla S uses the Cartridge Type Filters.
They work okay and do the job and the Hard Plastic Housing takes the place of the Cannister Type Filters, the only issue I have is the requirement of a different Filter Wrench and Socket Size to remove it.
I still prefer the Spin On Cannister Filters and would change to that option if I could.
More practical and a quicker change!
Supertech filters used to be made by Champion Laboratories who also made AC Delco branded filters.
Amazing video bro thank s for making 💭🤔it 👍
You don't test filters by cutting them open, looking at the elements, and weighing them. That is not paper end caps on the Fram so stop saying that. Every time I hear the same Fram story it is tiring. You need to run filters on vehicles and test them for filtration efficiency. You can also run an oil analysis before and after using the oil filter. In reality cars are not falling apart every day because someone used Quaker State Oil and a Fram filter VS. Valvoline Oil and a Wix.
kj197734 hi. Not paper end caps?? Ok, what are they??
I'm curious...
I strongly agree with you kj. I used fram orange filters for years and never had an issue.
...happy to hear you never had issues. FRAM is cheap and not the best filter, but doesn't mean it doesn't do the bare minimum for filtering.
IMHO...I'd spend a few extra $$ and get a better quality filter for piece of mind.
why do you suppose top engine builders in NASCAR cut open all the oil filters to inspect for engine wear?
Stick that Fram on an engine with a high pressure oil pump and watch what happens. The "paper" end caps , once they're broken down from heat and contaminates, with suck into the filter media clogging completely bypassing any filtering at all. You must work for Allied-Signal customer relations because even the plant engineers for AS won't use them in their own vehicles.
Fram filters are garbage, but they sell a lot of them because they are readily available at department and auto supply stores, are inexpensive, and have brand recognition.
The one that's not recommended for your car engine is more likely .why weight, some metal heavier than others, how the oil flow? Is that match with your engine design
What size particles will the media let through? That's what's important.
Yea, former FRAM guy here, I've seen these all over TH-cam for a few years now, sad to see FRAM hasn't changed their game at all, super tech surprised me a little as I was expecting it to, at best; be only as good as FRAM. Guess I'll be buying super tech oil filters in the future
Pantherman1979 As of February 2018 Supertech has redesigned their oil filters. I dont know who makes them now but it is not wix. They have degraded in quality. Heres the video to prove that: th-cam.com/video/ALvmFrB3Mrc/w-d-xo.html
All I have to say is that I'll have to do my own cutaway. The Super Tech in the video you provided look nothing like the ones in my WallyWorld, the colors don't even match. The ones in my store look like Bundy's here.
Pantherman1979 Your local Wal-Mart probably doesn't have them in yet. I just wanted to let you know.
It is a possibility, I will be keeping an eye open
Pantherman1979 I live in Southern California and all the Wal-Mart I visit has the new ones. Hope you get them in your area soon.
Nice video Bundy, but Wix doesn't make these filters for Supertech anymore. I don't know when you purchased this Supertech filter in the video, but Supertech has redesigned their oil filters as of around February 2018. I don't know who manufatuers them but the quality degraded. Here is the link for the new redesigned oil filter for Supertech: th-cam.com/video/ALvmFrB3Mrc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the info. Looks like newer Supertech has different packaging and became more like Fram (or Fram is a supplier?).
So, if I can find the old one from my Walmart, I will go for it. If not, I will probably buy some other brand.
Kyong Song Your welcome. It even has a plastic center tube. It should work just fine in an average person's vehicle. I will actually try this filter some day.
I got several of the old filters for $2 each when they discontinued them. Wix makes Carquest Premium filters, too.
I’m not a fan of the new design. They had exact OEM design for the Toyota cartridge, now the new filters are designed just like the Fram
Tony P Actually more worse than Fram.
I just cut open Fram filter I use and it looked as good as other brands same design with spring loaded bypass valve in bottom and no card board ,metal ends to hold filter material I use the 20,000 mile filter on a FRontier 6 Cylinder for years no problem,One I cut open had been run 15000 miles and it it looked like it was still filtering ok I would add fram does have spring in bottom that opens with certain pressure to allow oil flow if filter stops up to pass oil to engine
I do not know anything about car maintenance. Your review was very helpful.
My family used Fram for years and years with millions of miles. The motors were always fine. Change it regularly.
I had em blow up
I used fram for years , never had any problems, but yer right, it looks very cheap ! 👍
Interesting video. I recently installed a sbc crate engine. Did some oil filter research. Finally decided on the standard wix filter. The wix xp is considered a race filter. The standard wix actually captures smaller diameter particles of material compared to the wix xp. Wix xp captures larger diameter particles. So for the daily driver...the standard is superior. Race filters and oil is changed more often than a daily driver and small particles are not a concern. Whereas daily drivers filter and oil are not changed near as often as race equipment. Therefore...smaller particles are a concern to a daily driver. And because of the particle size capture is why the two wix filters weigh differently. The filter media are different between the two wix filters. Having said all that...the standard wix is cheaper than the xp....woohoo! Winner winner.
Can you do semi trucks oil filter comparison and fuel filters
Dont become an oil freak just change your oil and dont try to read to much into products or oils. Im starting to think oil freaks hace a real mental problem. Spending so much time reasearching wats better or wats bad. Stocking up on oil when its on sale or clearance. Getting offended when someone tells you you are using the wrong filters etc. Just change your oil regularly and you will be ok
Raul Serna okay I'll be sure to. Chang emy oil with a Fram filter (cuz it's cheap) and with the cheapest. Oil I can find 2 cycle 0w20
Its not like you keep your cars 20 years
Raul Serna you are so right !! their just a rejected transgender trying to be impotent 🤣🤣
I agree that there's plenty of hyperbole flying around, but why criticize the desire to verify the effectiveness of a product? If you painted your house and the paint didn't last, would you ignore the experience and keep painting with the same product? Observation is a requisite part of learning. Putting blind faith in ritual and marketing hardly sounds like good advice in general.
You are right but then again diy nerds want to know.
FYI, toilet paper rolls were used on vehicles in the 30’s & 40’s as oil filters. Seems the filters have not improved much.
There is by-pass valve in most engines that lets oil flow when filter is clogged. You can't seriously believe oil can flow through a toilet paper roll as easily as a proper filter element. People used to believe that smoking was healthy also.
X-Man idiots still do
Frantz bypass oil filters, I believe they're still sold! Work best with good old family scott toilet paper, too. No fancy stuff, you need just regular single ply paper. Some companies sell these as miracle, never change oil again filter kits. Don't believe it! Modern engines in some cases have variable or low flow pumps and cannot handle extra pressure bleeding off the supply! Had one of these clowns who sold these bring his chevy HHR (the PT cruiser ripoff) in, he was showing how well his miracle oil filter worked, and managed to destroy his engine by starving the bottom end. Beware!
I have used the cheap Fram for years but I think the next oil change I will be trying that Super Tech.
check the paper all by itself for flowability and particulate matter that goes through it like a coffee filter versus a paper towel versus toilet paper that type of test which paper filters the most and flows the easiest
Fram filters are garbage
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Do you even know why? Please inform your audience!
Who are you talking too?
Fram was doing a lot better in the 90s when nobody cut the filters open and put them on blast on social media. Lol. Why would I want any cardboard attached to my $8, 000 motor. Lol. No thanks. Oil filters definitely aren't something to skimp on. If You want to skimp, skimp on your windshield wipers or your car wash soap.
Great video.
Is NAPA Gold really a WIX? It filters to smaller micron size. NAPA Platinum is for synthetic oil. Pry has longer design life?
Doug Smith
Yeah it really is. Even part numbers match.
Supertech is different now, now they look like a fram unfortunately
I noticed that today when I looked at them, the packaging had changed, and unfortunately the filter had as well....looked like a Fram on the inside. I will not be buying any more unless they change back to a better manufacturer.
Yup. They destroyed what was a decent filter.
Fram is a joke. I have heard they were junk long time ago
Wow,great videos, thanks!
Good info, useful video, I work at O'reilly, now I know...thks, appreciate
Having worked at parts store. can tell you don’t by fram had several people come back with defective filters especially on turbocharged vehicles.
WIX is Awesome! Fram is absolute JUNK and causes more engine failures than Any filter made.
I've used the cheap orange fram filters for decades. My tacoma got 400k using them exclusively. You're ignorant.
That's interesting Lloyd. Could you tell me where your facts came from? I would like to study this information a little farther.
If you are changing your oil at 5k on a regular basis then a filter is filter is a filter.
Does the wix x have a paper element.
I been using the supertech filter for a few years now for less than 3 dollars not a bad filter.
country life
Cut open a new one. They're crap now.