I got that LAST book from a guy back in Jr. High. He told me it was Superman and his sons, LOL. It was until he gave me the book and I read I immediately understood what was going on. It was EPIC and cemented George Perez as an absolute comic artist titan. This guy can fill a page with hundreds of characters and make them all distinguishable..
19:15 . Yes. BTAS, Super friends, Teen titans, so on and so forth...they are not erased. The movie just showed them as a nod. All of the universes, live on...
@@a.jthomas6132 Yes absolutely ! Me too, but let's wait for when woke culture dies out so that we won't get a butchered and unrecognizable version of our beloved show.
George Perez was super talented. His incredible attention to detail is what pulled young readers in, I feel. The work itself is so beautiful to look at and then the cosmic scale by wolfman and perez filled me with wonder. What a treat.
@@ninjagamer1359 The Spectre is, also, majorly contributed to Dr Manhattan The fact that he can also grow, tear things (and in case of The Spectre people too) apart and reassemble them back, phase through solid walls , practically omnipotent and absolutely indestructible. And also the fact that, (in original comics) he starts as Jim Corrigan who then makes this all white body + green trunks and cloak costume and the name The Spectre, but then The Spectre "becomes" a separate person from Jim (and in case of Dr Manhattan he completely took over Osterman) and they even split in the end with Jim becoming powerless and normal. And John Constantine was also Alan Moore creation, in trench coat and (comparatively) powerless character that relies on some "tricks" (kinda like what Rorschach's journal was). That's why they all 3 left in the end in what was inversion of Watchmen ending in a way.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz I’m just talking from the comics; I haven’t seen all the movies yet-though your analysis within the movie’s context is interesting. Alan Moore’s Watchmen were first created as direct analogues of already existing Charlton Comics-originating characters when he was not given permission to use the originals themselves; Rorschach was meant to be Moore’s version of the Question, Dr. Manhattan was actually Captain Atom, the Comedian was Peacemaker, Nite Owl was Ted Kord’s Blue Beetle, and Silk Spectre was the equivalent of Charlton’s Nightshade although being more inspired by DC Comics’ Black Canary.
@@ninjagamer1359 that's originally, in the end 4 main characters (Rorschach, Owl II , Ozy , Doctor M) ended up having Batman (when Watchmen came out, at that point Bruce Wayne was Robin 1 first before he became Batman that's why Owl 1 wears Robin-esque shorts and t shirt and Owl 2 wears Batman-esque costume) and Superman elements (fotress of solitude in the snow, "big blue" literally, first ever true superhero with superpowers that also accelerated/coincided with overall science advancement scattered around them) mostly tossed around these 4 and in particular case of Doctor Manhattan, he is also inspired by The Spectre, Bill Dunn Super-Man (who also was super smart and could see past and future ) and Doctor Occult (the *DOCTOR* part, as well as , also, ability to become giant and phase through objects). Also in comics of those years Batman only had batpoon which could only shoot rope but not automatically retract it (for context Daredevil had automatic mechanism since original Stan Lee version) that's why Rorschach in comics always climbing the building by himself while in the film version it had automatic mechanism, because it was released after Tim Burton film + is satire/parody on superhero movies not comics. Because if Watchmen meant for straight up Charlton ripoff but with renaming NONE of them actually accurate, Captain Atom had only heat based powers without any ability to change his size or phase through objects or clone himself (also one of The Spectre's abilities) and original The Peacemaker has absolutely nothing in common with Comedian since he is mostly NON-lethal.
Loved this trilogy but why bother having an alternate Arthur and Mera that wasn't related to any DCAU or Tomorrowverse films? Or was it just an excuse to include at least ONE Aquaman that wasn't the E2 Golden Age one.
Since had watched Necessary Evil documentary where DC Comic’s CCO Geoff Johns talks about Superboy Prime, I have gotten into Crisis of Infinite Earths and Infinite Earths series. For those who do not know, Superboy Prime came from Earth Prime and he is a heighten version to the 50’s character. He is one of those characters who survived but lost his world in the process. He went to a pocket dimension where he has been watching what the DC Universe has turned into. He than takes his judgement on the heroes and all of their flaws. So he decided to bring back the multiverse and his world back. Geoff did an amazing job of turning him from a hero into an interesting compelling villain. Not to mention the romance between Superboy (Conner Kent) and Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark) in the Pre 52. If you are planning to do Infinite Crisis animated adaptation, please do a better job on the animation, come up a big budget instead of a low budget, and make a better story that pays homage to the original source material. That is all I am asking. Thank you for this trilogy!
How do you know they don’t love the comics? The problem is with simpleton keyboard warriors such as yourself, acting like you are some authority on the source material and adaptations. You are not. You are a disgruntled child throwing a temper tantrum because you did not get the adaptation you wanted. An adaptation is a variation of a premise, and as long as it contains the integrity it works, and this one does. The films remix things but those elements are still true to the comic, Harbinger is Supergirl yes, but she plays the same role as she did in the source material. Constantine may be Pariah still fulfills that role. The anti monitors purpose and existence may be different but he still functions as he should, so next time you decide to make declarative statement, know what you are talking because frankly it’s clear you are the one does not know what you are talking about or have love for comics. Ha.
In my mind, this animated trilogy was a mere shadow of the original comic book series. They took some of the basics from the comic book and then bastardized them into this animation mess. It needed to be better and more attuned to the original.
I hope this isn’t the end of the Teen Titans universe since we get only a glimpse of the Titan's Tower in part 3. Fans like me have been waiting for nearly 20 years for a season 6 since Things Change left us in a cliffhanger. And Starfire is the only Titan that hasn’t had her own seasonal arc like the rest.
“Fans like you” STILL don’t realize that that was never a cliffhanger 💀 The creators literally said that that was the way they always planned to end the show and that they wouldn’t have ended it that way had they NOT known it was going to be the last season. Teen Titans was already completed, always has been.
Tomorrow Verse did not earn this adaptation. If the story featured the DCAU as the main protagonists in the role of the original Earth One characters it would have been awesome. Or even better, an actual adaptation of the source material.
No it wouldn't be better since DCAU never established Earth-2/Golden Age esque world. If you go by this then COIE itself, as a comics, was never earned, or at least Marv Wolfman didn't earn the right to completely erase 50 years of DC + Chartlon + Fawcett and bring it all into one world with none of the character being the same as in pre COIE even if some Superman writers tend to pretend that it IS same Earth-1 and even sometimes Earth-1+Earth-2 version, which just isn't true. And actual adaptation 1:1 straight up wouldn't work without adapting comics that preceded them first, most people don't know that pre COIE Batman was either The Bat-Man -> Batman lethal vigilante with only one Robin who was as lethal, or Silver Age version who was Robin first before becoming Batman. Or that original Superman killed as well, a lot. Marv knows that's why it is referenced in the comic, but most people wouldn't and without any of that that it isn't adaptation.
They literally went to him and to Wolfman while they were making it, and they both gave them their blessing and complimented what they were doing with the story. That’s literally even mentioned in this video-but I’m guessing, possibly like the movies themselves, you didn’t even watch it.
I love how they keep saying: "Nothing like this had ever been done before, we'd never seen a crossover like this...." Yeah. Because SECRET WARS didn't happen a YEAR before, did it?
@@bluemindstudios3256 The New 52 Animated Universe got hate while it was going, too, though. I think they just always hate the current thing and then once it’s gone long for it looking back in comparison. This will probably age well, too, just like those movies apparently did.
Someone please explain to me what the point of the 3 Crisis On Infinite Earths animated movies was. Seriously. Besides the slow, dull story -- which only slightly resembled the one from the comics -- what was it meant to accomplish? The point of the comic series was that DC decided at the time that their comics continuity was too convoluted for new readers to follow. The company's 50th anniversary was approaching, providing perfect timing for cleaning it all up. So they devised this epic 12-part story that streamlined and greatly simplified their entire ouvre, streamlining the "Infinite Earths" down to one. So again, what's the point of the 3 movies? Who out there was confused by the differences between Batman the Animated Series, vs. The Return of the Caped Crusaders, vs. the adaptation of Dark Knight Returns? Did anyone complain that the All-Star Superman movie looked different than Superman: Doomsday or Superman vs. the Elite? Were there people who couldn't get into Throne of Atlantis because it didn't follow the continuity of Justice League Unlimited? Of course not. Meaning: there really was no need for an animated adaptation of Crisis. But as long as they made it, why didn't they go absolutely bonkers? Why did we only get a couple seconds of the "Super Friends" version of the Justice League, rather than giving them at least one major action sequence? Why did we not get non-stop cameos from multiple versions of more characters? Why did the ending HAVE to be the condensing of everything to one Earth, instead of a super-crazy conclusion nobody would have expected, that leans even more heavily into alternate realities? Because NOW, when out-of-continuity DC movies are inevitably made, the weak, 3-part Crisis "event" will be rendered moot.
The ending is not condensing all earths in one, the ending is creating a new "fake earth" to keep surviving mixing the variants of a same characters meanwhile the real multiverse is being destroying by the Anti monitor.
what a horrible anti monitior design the arrowverse did a better job, why exclude so much from the comics like pariah lady quark superboy prime alexander luthor, dead company dead brand
The arrowverse was horrible. The animated COIE was way better than the cw version and it leans more to comics than the cw. They done everything wrong in cw while in animated was the mix adaption of coie comics and final crisis, which it shouldn’t, but it’s still better than cw version.
Crisis On Infinite Earths should've been a stand-alone 6 part film and not tied to the Tomorrowverse because that Trilogy film was garbage and a complete mess. Despite the great impactful influence COIE had on the comic book industry and in DC Comics, it would later be DC Comics undoing in the long run and have never recovered to this day.
Animation was great. Haven’t seen all the movies yet, so I can’t say if the adaptation was or not, but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t “horrible,” either.
@@ninjagamer1359the buildup was horrible and the adaptation was horrible. The comics they defeated anti monitor, while in animation they kinda win, but still lost.
Hurry up and make a Crisis on Infinite Earths Reboot Elseworld Animated Trilogy that the characters, story and animation is 100% like the Better comic.
Marv flexing in his Nightwing jacket. Lol
I loved that so much. I might need to get one, haha
Also was Kevin's last Batman VO, a great send off
Miss him so much! RIP
RIP George Perez
I got that LAST book from a guy back in Jr. High. He told me it was Superman and his sons, LOL. It was until he gave me the book and I read I immediately understood what was going on. It was EPIC and cemented George Perez as an absolute comic artist titan. This guy can fill a page with hundreds of characters and make them all distinguishable..
19:15 . Yes. BTAS, Super friends, Teen titans, so on and so forth...they are not erased. The movie just showed them as a nod. All of the universes, live on...
I hoped that the Teen Titans get a season 6 revival. Starfire is the only member who hasn’t have her arc.
@@a.jthomas6132 Yes absolutely ! Me too, but let's wait for when woke culture dies out so that we won't get a butchered and unrecognizable version of our beloved show.
@@a.jthomas6132 Yes ! I Absolutely agree ! That would be Great !
Amazing movie! Wb suits needs to get out of the way of the artist
George Perez was super talented. His incredible attention to detail is what pulled young readers in, I feel. The work itself is so beautiful to look at and then the cosmic scale by wolfman and perez filled me with wonder. What a treat.
The three part animation was whelm 😐. This mini doc was actually nicer. RiP George Perez
One mistake in the end credits. It didn't say, Kevin Conroy - Batman. it said Batman earth 12 for some reason.
One thing both The Question and Rorschach had in common: both men never compromised… not in the face of armageddon.
Plus their nearly identical character designs. And that’s because one was based on the other.
@@ninjagamer1359 The Spectre is, also, majorly contributed to Dr Manhattan
The fact that he can also grow, tear things (and in case of The Spectre people too) apart and reassemble them back, phase through solid walls , practically omnipotent and absolutely indestructible. And also the fact that, (in original comics) he starts as Jim Corrigan who then makes this all white body + green trunks and cloak costume and the name The Spectre, but then The Spectre "becomes" a separate person from Jim (and in case of Dr Manhattan he completely took over Osterman) and they even split in the end with Jim becoming powerless and normal.
And John Constantine was also Alan Moore creation, in trench coat and (comparatively) powerless character that relies on some "tricks" (kinda like what Rorschach's journal was).
That's why they all 3 left in the end in what was inversion of Watchmen ending in a way.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz I’m just talking from the comics; I haven’t seen all the movies yet-though your analysis within the movie’s context is interesting. Alan Moore’s Watchmen were first created as direct analogues of already existing Charlton Comics-originating characters when he was not given permission to use the originals themselves; Rorschach was meant to be Moore’s version of the Question, Dr. Manhattan was actually Captain Atom, the Comedian was Peacemaker, Nite Owl was Ted Kord’s Blue Beetle, and Silk Spectre was the equivalent of Charlton’s Nightshade although being more inspired by DC Comics’ Black Canary.
@@ninjagamer1359 that's originally, in the end 4 main characters (Rorschach, Owl II , Ozy , Doctor M) ended up having Batman (when Watchmen came out, at that point Bruce Wayne was Robin 1 first before he became Batman that's why Owl 1 wears Robin-esque shorts and t shirt and Owl 2 wears Batman-esque costume) and Superman elements (fotress of solitude in the snow, "big blue" literally, first ever true superhero with superpowers that also accelerated/coincided with overall science advancement scattered around them) mostly tossed around these 4
and in particular case of Doctor Manhattan, he is also inspired by The Spectre, Bill Dunn Super-Man (who also was super smart and could see past and future ) and Doctor Occult (the *DOCTOR* part, as well as , also, ability to become giant and phase through objects).
Also in comics of those years Batman only had batpoon which could only shoot rope but not automatically retract it (for context Daredevil had automatic mechanism since original Stan Lee version) that's why Rorschach in comics always climbing the building by himself while in the film version it had automatic mechanism, because it was released after Tim Burton film + is satire/parody on superhero movies not comics.
Because if Watchmen meant for straight up Charlton ripoff but with renaming NONE of them actually accurate, Captain Atom had only heat based powers without any ability to change his size or phase through objects or clone himself (also one of The Spectre's abilities) and original The Peacemaker has absolutely nothing in common with Comedian since he is mostly NON-lethal.
It was a once in a lifetime experience reading this for the first time. I remember it well.
Can't wait for part 3 to come out on Latinamerica
The death of supergirl was completely pointless. All they learned was that they couldn't defeat the anti monitors.
Same with visión on Infinity war but no one complains
This should be awesome but you didn't do a real Anti-Monitor appearance..
Stop hating
Apart from the anti monitor it was an alright adaptation
Shame that we dc fans are not deserving live action Crisis on infinite earths film!😢
We hoped to bring them back someday in Convergence Animated Movie or Television Adaptation based on comic books someday 😢😭❤💙🌹💐🌌🌠🎆🎇🇮🇩🇦🇺
Loved this trilogy but why bother having an alternate Arthur and Mera that wasn't related to any DCAU or Tomorrowverse films? Or was it just an excuse to include at least ONE Aquaman that wasn't the E2 Golden Age one.
The Crisis On Infinite Earths comic was a brilliantly executed bad idea.
Where is Superboy Prime!!????
I want Movie Animated Dial H For Hero 2019
RIP George Perez 🎉😢
12 movies would sell.
I think 12 episodes would sell.
WB is the world best animation films manufacture ❤❤
Since had watched Necessary Evil documentary where DC Comic’s CCO Geoff Johns talks about Superboy Prime, I have gotten into Crisis of Infinite Earths and Infinite Earths series.
For those who do not know, Superboy Prime came from Earth Prime and he is a heighten version to the 50’s character. He is one of those characters who survived but lost his world in the process. He went to a pocket dimension where he has been watching what the DC Universe has turned into. He than takes his judgement on the heroes and all of their flaws. So he decided to bring back the multiverse and his world back.
Geoff did an amazing job of turning him from a hero into an interesting compelling villain. Not to mention the romance between Superboy (Conner Kent) and Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark) in the Pre 52.
If you are planning to do Infinite Crisis animated adaptation, please do a better job on the animation, come up a big budget instead of a low budget, and make a better story that pays homage to the original source material. That is all I am asking. Thank you for this trilogy!
😢Hope Burns Bright ☝🏻💯💙.
DC’s animated movies should have been like the comic books
Y'all need to redo this trilogy and please get people who actually love comics bc this is disrespectful to Marv Wolfman and George Perez
LOL They are the main culprits
They didn't even care about the Tomorrowverse Length
How do you know they don’t love the comics? The problem is with simpleton keyboard warriors such as yourself, acting like you are some authority on the source material and adaptations. You are not. You are a disgruntled child throwing a temper tantrum because you did not get the adaptation you wanted. An adaptation is a variation of a premise, and as long as it contains the integrity it works, and this one does. The films remix things but those elements are still true to the comic, Harbinger is Supergirl yes, but she plays the same role as she did in the source material. Constantine may be Pariah still fulfills that role. The anti monitors purpose and existence may be different but he still functions as he should, so next time you decide to make declarative statement, know what you are talking because frankly it’s clear you are the one does not know what you are talking about or have love for comics. Ha.
Wolfman and Perez themselves literally disagree with you. And Jim Krieg and Butch Lukic do love comics, lol
So true. Nothing needed to be changed.
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Same here. I grew up with Batman since I was lil.
Between Tomorrowverse and Arrowverse. Who did crisis better?
Arrow verse hands down
Tomorrowverse had an actual solid storyline, not epic but something to tell
In my mind, this animated trilogy was a mere shadow of the original comic book series. They took some of the basics from the comic book and then bastardized them into this animation mess. It needed to be better and more attuned to the original.
I hope this isn’t the end of the Teen Titans universe since we get only a glimpse of the Titan's Tower in part 3. Fans like me have been waiting for nearly 20 years for a season 6 since Things Change left us in a cliffhanger. And Starfire is the only Titan that hasn’t had her own seasonal arc like the rest.
You vil get your ze Zero Hour cartoon adaptacion and you vil. be hapi
“Fans like you” STILL don’t realize that that was never a cliffhanger 💀 The creators literally said that that was the way they always planned to end the show and that they wouldn’t have ended it that way had they NOT known it was going to be the last season. Teen Titans was already completed, always has been.
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Tomorrow Verse did not earn this adaptation. If the story featured the DCAU as the main protagonists in the role of the original Earth One characters it would have been awesome. Or even better, an actual adaptation of the source material.
No it wouldn't be better since DCAU never established Earth-2/Golden Age esque world.
If you go by this then COIE itself, as a comics, was never earned, or at least Marv Wolfman didn't earn the right to completely erase 50 years of DC + Chartlon + Fawcett and bring it all into one world with none of the character being the same as in pre COIE even if some Superman writers tend to pretend that it IS same Earth-1 and even sometimes Earth-1+Earth-2 version, which just isn't true.
And actual adaptation 1:1 straight up wouldn't work without adapting comics that preceded them first, most people don't know that pre COIE Batman was either The Bat-Man -> Batman lethal vigilante with only one Robin who was as lethal, or Silver Age version who was Robin first before becoming Batman. Or that original Superman killed as well, a lot. Marv knows that's why it is referenced in the comic, but most people wouldn't and without any of that that it isn't adaptation.
Warner. Ya'll had ONE JOB.😡
Dc💙
The comic was solid, the animated version was such a let down. I did not enjoy it. The TomorrowVerse fell short overall.
This animated “adaptation” was nonsensical and disrespectful to the original series. If you can’t do it right, don’t do it at all.
They literally went to him and to Wolfman while they were making it, and they both gave them their blessing and complimented what they were doing with the story. That’s literally even mentioned in this video-but I’m guessing, possibly like the movies themselves, you didn’t even watch it.
@ninjagamer1359 they didn't adapt the comic book story well. They did something original that people may have liked, and some may have hated
@@ninjagamer1359People will sell out or comprise if you wave enough cash in their face. Legacy is secondary.
@@ninjagamer1359literally literally
poor adaptation
DC Multiverse falling apart
Blame James Gunn. He wants 99% of the new projects to be part of the DCU. HE wiped out all the shows and movies.
@@diegojimenezaguado542119:15
@@diegojimenezaguado5421 This movie has been into production way before Gunn took charge.
@@magnum9588facts
Just like our world..jk
I love how they keep saying: "Nothing like this had ever been done before, we'd never seen a crossover like this...." Yeah. Because SECRET WARS didn't happen a YEAR before, did it?
nope
5:37 *BUTCH LUKICH!*
It’s correctly spelled _Lukic,_ even though it’s pronounced like that
@@ninjagamer1359 The correct speeling is actually " Lukić "
What’s really sad is I can guarantee most of these haters in the comments have not even seen the movies they’re hating on 💀
They tried but they have nostalgia por apokolips edgy gore action
@@bluemindstudios3256 The New 52 Animated Universe got hate while it was going, too, though. I think they just always hate the current thing and then once it’s gone long for it looking back in comparison. This will probably age well, too, just like those movies apparently did.
@@ninjagamer1359 I hate apokolips wars but the rest of the universe not really, especially Flashpoint, SS and Death of superman movie
Someone please explain to me what the point of the 3 Crisis On Infinite Earths animated movies was. Seriously. Besides the slow, dull story -- which only slightly resembled the one from the comics -- what was it meant to accomplish? The point of the comic series was that DC decided at the time that their comics continuity was too convoluted for new readers to follow. The company's 50th anniversary was approaching, providing perfect timing for cleaning it all up. So they devised this epic 12-part story that streamlined and greatly simplified their entire ouvre, streamlining the "Infinite Earths" down to one.
So again, what's the point of the 3 movies? Who out there was confused by the differences between Batman the Animated Series, vs. The Return of the Caped Crusaders, vs. the adaptation of Dark Knight Returns? Did anyone complain that the All-Star Superman movie looked different than Superman: Doomsday or Superman vs. the Elite? Were there people who couldn't get into Throne of Atlantis because it didn't follow the continuity of Justice League Unlimited? Of course not. Meaning: there really was no need for an animated adaptation of Crisis. But as long as they made it, why didn't they go absolutely bonkers? Why did we only get a couple seconds of the "Super Friends" version of the Justice League, rather than giving them at least one major action sequence? Why did we not get non-stop cameos from multiple versions of more characters? Why did the ending HAVE to be the condensing of everything to one Earth, instead of a super-crazy conclusion nobody would have expected, that leans even more heavily into alternate realities? Because NOW, when out-of-continuity DC movies are inevitably made, the weak, 3-part Crisis "event" will be rendered moot.
The ending is not condensing all earths in one, the ending is creating a new "fake earth" to keep surviving mixing the variants of a same characters meanwhile the real multiverse is being destroying by the Anti monitor.
@@bluemindstudios3256 Then that's another thing they F'ed up by not making it clearer.
The animation and dialogue and premise is horrible..
what a horrible anti monitior design the arrowverse did a better job, why exclude so much from the comics like pariah lady quark superboy prime alexander luthor, dead company dead brand
The arrowverse was horrible. The animated COIE was way better than the cw version and it leans more to comics than the cw. They done everything wrong in cw while in animated was the mix adaption of coie comics and final crisis, which it shouldn’t, but it’s still better than cw version.
Arrowverse only wins on cameos, the storyline still horrible and power rangers style.
Crisis On Infinite Earths should've been a stand-alone 6 part film and not tied to the Tomorrowverse because that Trilogy film was garbage and a complete mess.
Despite the great impactful influence COIE had on the comic book industry and in DC Comics, it would later be DC Comics undoing in the long run and have never recovered to this day.
Horrible animation, horrible adaptation
Animation was great. Haven’t seen all the movies yet, so I can’t say if the adaptation was or not, but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t “horrible,” either.
@@ninjagamer1359the buildup was horrible and the adaptation was horrible. The comics they defeated anti monitor, while in animation they kinda win, but still lost.
This ANIMATED SERIES IS AN ABOMINATION COMPARED TO THE BOOKS ,PERIOD POINT BLANK.
Hurry up and make a Crisis on Infinite Earths Reboot Elseworld Animated Trilogy that the characters, story and animation is 100% like the Better comic.
3rd and insanely early 😊
The First two parts revising the series has been uwatchable - and Jim Lee's opinions are not worth hearing.