I for one didn't sacrifice myself to not either A. Put alistair's ass on the ferelden thrown or B. For Alistair to put his scrawny ass back in the firing line If it would ever come to this in my play throughs, Alistair would get it.
Nerjaveika Unless you do what i did. You harden Allister(Tell him to grow up after the talk with her sister) and than he will take the throne whatever you do with Loghain. I for one married Anora AND Allister AND for one saved Loghain too. Everyone lives, win-win.
Mostani mentésemben, Alistar + Warden a trónon, Loghaint Ali megölte. Összes küldetés paragon, elég jó a Világ Állapotom. Ali és Morrigan találkozása az kínos, de aki igazán tetszett nekem az Hawke, meg Varrick.
+Krisztián Kerényi If you let Loghain live, you still lose Alistair whether he becomes a wandering drunk or a king. I can't bear the thought that Alastair and my Warden wouldn't be best friends anymore if I saved Loghain.
Dumpster Raccoon hawke is only a guy if the games aren’t linked. Hawke, the hero in dragon age 2 can be a female or male if you create the character yourself
My Alistair had been in a relationship with the Warden, who died killing Urthemiel. That nod he gives at 2:45 when the Inquisitor talks about making a sacrifice because someone has to do it really hit me.
what got me was varric saying "where's hawke?" twice in that tiny little voice. broke my heart. so glad I made alister king so I didn't have to choose between the two. because holy crap that would have been sad.
Mine said "I'am sorry Anders" ... he will never get another girl compared to others because he is so emo-edgy and self-hating. I kinda feel sorry for him now~ Not for Hawke since she turned from jester into a blood-mage hating zealot
This scene, is literally the only reason why I spared Loghain in Dragon Age Origins and forced him to become a warden. Just to make him a sacrifice in this scene.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м I personally think that dying like a hero is better if you let him kill the Archdemon in DA O because he gets a grave next to Garahel is a hero who saved his country.
@@Dark_Voice I agree, but I like this one too. You see him go from being the one who betrayed the Warden's and nearly cost the whole of Fereldan, to the only one left who spoke out against what they were becoming and died doing what they do. I love a good heroic redemption arc lol
Olivia Brewington I have the exact same state (goddamnit Bioware), but I decided to spare my Hawke instead. What can I say, she's my self-insert playthrough and I'm not suicidal. Plus I have plenty of different playthroughs to use after, fortunately.
My Fem Amel was romancing him and I don't want her murdering me so yeah, I killed Sebastian's lover because I love Alistair far more than I like Sebastian. Plus my Warden would butcher my Inquisitor.
Alana Marie Ah Sabby was my absolute favorite Rouge in DA2 and my Fem Champ romance. Plus simply one of my favorite characters in the game. I love rangers, And his white armor was so damn cool!!
@AlreadyWon It's not retarded at all. DA 2 is a terrible game with an either boring(the good) or idiotic(the "funny") or an absolute bastard(the evil) of a main character. Alistair on the other hand was well written, funny and he was with you throughout the whole first game. Not to mention he could be your first character's lover. Which matters more than anything, since Origins is the best game in the series with the best main character option and the most amount of choices. Choosing Hawke is the retarded thing to do here. I literally chose Stroud over Hawke, let alone Alistair or Loghain. Hawke is the definition of how not to write a main protagonist. Even in Inquisition he manages to be an annoyance with his constant nagging about wardens doing blood magic. Good riddance.
You know when you played all games you get connected to certain characters of the game. Like Alistair and Hawke. So when your put before such a damned decision to your like =,( WTF?!?!?!?
That last line belongs in a 'best of Alistair' cut... I'm not sure why, but I feel like it might be easier to sacrifice my own Hawke instead of Alistair.
I think originally it was meant to be a choice between Hawke and the Hero of Fereldan, but there were issues with importing the Hero, so they went with Alistair, Stroud, and Loghain.
@@patrykranosz4826 Voice acting would've been the least of their problems. Hawke and the Inquisitor both have got only 3 set personalities for the player to choose from. Whereas the Warden's personality was sculpted by the player. If they were to bring back the Warden, they would ruin him/her for many players no matter the quality of the voice acting.
Conflicted about this one. I sort of wish I hadn't made Alistair king so I'd have been able to see all these awesome new scenes with him without expecting them. Then choosing between Hawke or him? That's some dramatic stuff! However, I'm also glad I made that idiot king because I honestly don't know if I could choose either. I loved both! Didn't have any idea this was even a possibility until now to be honest!
I'll always go for Hawke stays in this case, even though Varric's reaction breaks my heart. My reasoning is that if there's anyone who can survive battling a giant spider in the Fade and one days make it back out alive, it's Hawke.
SPOILER ALERT Maybe when Hawke says, "Corypheus is mine!" and The Inquisitor sending Corypheus into the Fade are connected so they can have a 1-on-1? Probably not but it'd be cool.
I always thought it was a bit silly to send Corypheus into the Fade because now he can just go to the Black City, right? Though I suppose the demons won't be loyal to him anymore...
Wojciech Wilkanowski The Inquisitor killed him because using the Mark of the Rift they destroyed his body you see it disintegrating and seeing as he couldn't jump into blighted bodies because of the fake archdemon being dead courtesy of you... Yeah he's done I'm pretty sure.
GZLAnnihilation he acts like a fucking kid, a bloodthirsty kid. I'd understand if he decided to go after Anders and/or Hawke seeing as Anders was the one to do what I wanted to happen for a long time and made a Chantry go BOOOM and Hawke let him go but instead he invaded Kirkwall and probably is responsible for the deaths of many Kirkwall guards who had absolutely nothing to do with the Chantry's destruction.
I still don't see why is Hawke so relevant to Thedas? What did he do compared to the other protagonists? The Warden Commander saved Thedas from the Fifth Blight and killed an Archdemon. The Inquisitor solved the Breach crisis all over Thedas and killed Corypheus. Hawke knew the guy who started the Mage Rebellion and he fought in it like thousands of other people. The qunari problem was just a stepping stone and it only affected one city. It had no relevance to the Mage Rebellion, it had no relevance to the Blight, it had no relevance to Corypheus, it had no relevance to the rest of Thedas. And killing Orsino and Meredith was just a few of the many victims of the Mage Rebellion. Killing them neither started nor solved anything. If Hawke hadn't done it, someone else would have. Or they could have killed each other. Hawke is basically the guy who happens to be in the middle of a tavern brawl and defends himself from other attackers. Not something deserving of praises.
+Bindair Dundat in legacy (the dlc for da2), hawke is the one to actually released corypheus in the first place. malcolm hawke, hawkes dad, binded corypheus using his blood therefore only hawke's blood could have been able to do so. hawke also kills corypheus once in legacy. so basically while everyone else was doing cool shit, hawke pulled a "oh, fuck what did i do". whether or not hawke is a positive character to have in thedas, varric brings him to skyhold purely because hawke had experience in killing corypheus already. thats the big thing that makes him relevant in thedas during inquisition. the warden commander isnt as relevant to thedas as much anymore by inquisition-- alistair even says it at one point (when you ask him about being "the alistair" and defeating the blight, he says "nobody cares about that anymore"). i mean i guess hawke's relationship to anders is also kinda important because he has the ability to help anders blow up the chantry... and/or kill anders for his actions. also killing orsino and meredith makes so that one group was able to take advantage over the other. this eventually prolonged the battle and eventually spreaded it into different parts of thedas. the qunari rebellion and the viscounts death also caused huge political unrest in kirkwall which eventually caused a lot of people to turn on each other towards the mage rebellion, not to mention the amount of support hawke can give to either mages or templars will be a factor in how confident mages become in order to rebel. hawke is just always at the wrong place at the wrong time and things never ended well for him. there wasn't a lot of glory at the end of da2-- in origins and inquisition, people are cheering and throwing parties for the playable character. in da2, hawke and his friends just kinda flee the city. sorry this was so long! i hope that explains a little bit more on hawkes relevance in inquisition.
***** But this is the problem. Corypehus was dlc boss in DA2. Additional content. Not part of Hawke's main story. And even before Corypehus appeared in Inquisition, Cassandra preached about how Hawke should have been there to be the Inquisitor or at the summit during the peace talk. What could have Hawke possibly done to make anything in those situations? The qunari threat may have caused political tension, but that is only the equivalent of dealing with Loghaine or solving the Civil War in Olrais. If it can be mentioned on the same level, considering how Kirkwall was just a city, while the other two were huge kingdoms. And Hawke fought and killed both Orsino and Meredith. He didn't really pick a side, apart from defending his companions. And the templars and mages elsewhere in Thedas didn't really care about Hawke or what "side" he was on. Apart from Cassandra and Varric, nobody mentioned him. Not mages nor templars.
+Bindair Dundat tbh i found it kinda ridiculous that corypheus would be the main boss in inquisition esp. since he's from dlc content that not everyone has which would only cause some unnecessary confusion in story, but it's bioware's choice to do that i guess :-/ the inclusion of just that one dlc though makes him relevant i mean if you think about it though the warden wouldn't have been super useful as a candidate either, warden abilities don't do much for a human conflict. both of them may have just been selected because of their leadership skills and/or history in battle. at least hawke firsthand experienced a lot of the mage/templar tension, the warden hadn't done anything in regards to that for ten years (last we know of is the broken circle quest in origins). another thing to consider is that varric wrote that book that was super widespread and like his most infamous one that was about hawke. this probably kinda helped boost what people knew about him and how they regarded him as champion. looool maybe thats pushing it a bit but still it's provides an explanation as to why hawke was even considered for the position. plus thedas hadnt seen a qunari invasion (aside from tevinter) since the storm age until the attack on kirkwall, so i don't think it's the same plane as the loghain or celene/gaspard/briala situations in the other games. then the mage uprising started in kirkwall.. so though its not a nation, but enough people were watching kirkwall close enough for it to be important in the overall story. dragon age 2 is just really small in comparison to the other two games-- i'm sure if bioware had spent more time on it they could've made it so hawke saves all of the free marches or something bigger, but i don't think we should discredit hawke and his relevance to the story just because of da2 having a more contained map.
***** Yeah, reusing Corypheus was kind of cheap. And the fact that most zones in Inquisition were only XP grinds, made it feel like a single player MMO. To the rest of the mages, the events of Kirkwall were nothing more than a green light. Not even Orsino or Meredith really cared about Hawke or which side he was on. The mage - templar tension was everywhere. In every Circle. If not Kirkwall, some other city would have started it. And Anders started it, with or without Hawke knowing it. Praising Hawke is like praising the one guy who shot the first civilian and started the Boston Massacre, ultimately leading to the American War of Independence and a free America. :D Basically, apart from Hawke having a brief encounter with Corypheus, which ultimately didn't help the Inquisition at all, the whole of DA2 was just a filler. Nothing really happened in DA2 that couldn't have been said in Inquisition. Corypheus? Yeah, some asshole freed an ancient darkspawn magister. It would have been better if we hadn't known who he was. Mage Rebellion? Yeah, some asshole blew up the Chantry in Kirkwall to start it. Red Lyrium? Yeah, we learn in Inquisition what it is. Was it any help that Varric has "seen it before"? No.
+Bindair Dundat oh yeah totally i feel that on inquisition. it was rough trying to get through the a completionist version of the entire game without wanting to rip my hair out, at least in mmos you can grind with other people good god ah, maybe i view the game differently but because hawke kept getting caught between orsino and merediths fights (like killing/catching people for them and stopping the public arguements) i always thought hawke was pretty important to the two of them? like they ask for hawkes support in act 3 depending on who you sided with more, and even in the end in the gallows hawke's expected to fight alongside the leader in exterminating the opposing group. people kinda looked up to hawke since he was champion after all-- he can even become viscount over anyone else in da2. i think it would've most likely to started in kirkwall regardless, vivienne does mentions at a point that each circle was different and kirkwall was probably was the most strict in its ways. also because anders was crazy at that point with justice. hawke can actually convince anders to not blow up the chantry in his romance, but justice will take over and force him to do it :( i think anders would be more of the guy that shot the first civilian and started the boston massacre, hawke would've been the guy who tried to restore order. but real world applications don't fit nicely in this story i think :p at least legacy lets us know why hawke is in inquisition and what hawkes relationship to corypheus is. no one else would've been able to release corypheus (aside from the twins.. but theyre off doing their stuff) since he was bound by blood. without hawke, corypheus couldn't have existed. without corypheus, solas couldn't have had him unlocking the orb which eventually anchored to the inquisitors hand. without the anchor, the inquisitor wouldn't have had any importance to the inquisition. a lot of things that lead from one place to another. maybe hawkes not relevant to anyone in thedas anymore aside from cassandra and the others seeking him out as a chance to find leadership for the inquisition, but what hawke did is what allows the events of inquisition to exist.
Meanwhile in a quest in the next game, you enter the fade, you have a quest that requires magic, on one hand you have Cory trying to trick you to use blood magic, on the other you have Hawke trying to teach you how to be a dragon.
Yes this video is old, but I think a great way of ending Alistairs story is if the grey warden was romanced and died during the 5th blight, and him dying here reunites him with his lover in the afterlife ahh yes so very romantic 💅🏽💗✨🌸
can you possibly tell Morrigan "Alistair just stood there looking foolish"? it would be hilarious if you could also what do you think Alistair's about to say to Morrigan before he retract it? I know the reason he retract whatever he's about to say is because he knew Morrigan too well that he knew somehow she would've expect "Alistair would just stood there looking foolish", but I can't imagine what he's about to say
I seriously hope in the next game depending on who you save in the fade between Hawke or Alistair/Stroud/or Loghaine the one you saved and went to the anderfels becomes a companion in dragon age 4
that be too much work on bioware's part needing to make 3 sets of lines for one place holder of an ally and how each one of them would change DA4 story being there still awesome idea tho
***** they did it for this ? for Loghaine,stroud and Alistair all I want is for them to be in my party I get that it would be a huge undertaking but It would be worth the wait
Assassin Cactus yes but this was for small amount of dialogue cutscenes for 3 of them, thats nothing, hence why their roles were so short in this game if they all were party members, they'd need to have dialogue for all 3 of them during gameplay, interacting with them after certain parts of the storyline, possible romance dialogue etc and how they interact with each of the other characters affecting various plot points, it would give the game even more depth but it would also lead to too many branch paths with it......thus...even more bugs and glitches lol
This would've been the hardest decision for me. On one hand I have my characters best friend from Origins and on the other I have a version of myself that I was able to personify in DA2. I would wish that there was an option for all of us to stay and fight. But luckily for me in my world state Alistair is king! So no truly hard choices were made in this mission. Still sad though, having to leave someone behind there to die. But who knows, I like to think that Stoud kills the beast in the Fade, maybe we might even get DLC about going in and searching for whoever you chose to leave behind.
I never make Alistair king so in Inquisition I always have to choose between him and Hawke. I always end up having him stay behind, ultimately thats what Grey Wardens are for: "In death, Sacrifice". It's super hard, but I also know my Warden would understand; on the other side I just can't leave Fenris all alone again after he found someone he can truly trust and love
Alistair's line about Morrigan plus the having them do the dark ritual in Dragon Age Origins to have a kid together really add some gravitas to their relationship in Inquisition.
Thank God I never made Alistair a Grey Warden. This would've broken my heart. By the way... where did you get that armor? 40 hours in and I've never seen it; aside from on NPCs.
Alright, thank you =P. I've looked up a few places trying to figure out where to buy schematics and never had much luck outside of medium and heavy armors. I like the Enchanter Armor and all, but it's getting really old seeing nothing but that model. It's a shame that the only variety I saw was right after the intro in Haven's camp.
Rowan Buchanan Dalish Scout is medium armor, you need to use special kind of leather (Snoufleur Skin) to remove class restriction. And I know what you mean, I really hate that there are so few armor models in this game, at least I could get something different for my elf but other races just spend the entire game in the same armor except for maybe some small variations and different colors :(
FluffyNinjaLlama Of course you need something unique to remove restrictions *_* hnngh. Why they can't just offer that as a perk is beyond me. And I've played nothing but a mage so far; only dorked off on a rogue. So I didn't know everything suffered from a lack of variety. Here's to hoping modders figure out how to work with meshes.
Oh gosh varric broke me. This is a decision I’m actually struggling with. I have found myself very much attached to loghain who is my warden in this and so the choice between him and hawke is something I’m conflicted about. Although giving him a good death would do him much justice. Especially yo save so many orlesians
Nightmare demon: *stops my Inquisitor Me: for real? We killed like 7 dragons at this point as if we'd get stopped by a fucken spider-and look Stroud's already drawing blood from it the dragons we killed got SCALES as armour we can beat its ass
I know this sacrifice is tough, but I'd like to imagine the save files of people who sacrificed Alistair or Hawke will see a surprise return in DA 4. You'll never know with Dragon Age, right?
Man does that decision suck to have to make. Glad I always had Alistair become king. Seems like having Stroud/Alistair/Loghain die wouldn't impact the fate of the wardens immensely seeing as (For most people's playthrough anyway) the hero of Ferelden is still alive and is a senior warden as well. As for the decision to exile the wardens out of Orlais... I really don't get how anyone could think that's a good idea. I mean if an archdemon shows up.. what.. you want me to kill it?
Finished the game a bit ago, just saying Alistair will turn soo if the hero of ferelden doesn't find a cure to the calling he will become darkspawn, plus Hawke helps rebuild kirkwall. Alistair story is over so I sacrifice him, don't get me wrong he is great but his tale is over. Oh and Logahin definitely fits going out as his redemption
DA:O dialogue so much smoother. Inquisition feel weird even the face. I know some snowflakes will say me wrong. Inquisition is good for the lore but against DA:O? No, the DA:O lore and story may be simpler but the way they presented themselves is more powerful. I hate when people say the DA:O need to remake.
I'm not going to lie, when it came down to the decision between Hawke and Stroud I found it hard to pick because the Wardens need a responsible leader like Stroud, but on the other hand, I knew Varric would be devastated by Hawke's death. But as for the decision between Hawke and Alistair, I didn't hesitate, Hawke was making the sacrifice, and even then I was more upset that I made Varric loose a good friend. I wonder what that says about Bioware's approach to characters that I care more about Alistair and Varric than I do about a previous game's protagonist.
You know. It's funny: I've seen people ask why the Hero wasn't in the game. Now I always thought it was because.of costs because they had to hire a new VA (or several) and write in dialogue for certain characters (Leliana, Morigan, and maybe Cullen if you played a mage warden). Not to mention, to avoid character overload. Now I think it's also because of the Fade choice. Writers realized how hard it would be for players to pick between Alistair and Hawke. Now imagine if it's your warden and Hawke. Think the writers were afraid players would come to burn down their houses then.
My idea for for this game's first DLC is to take the inquisition to Kirkwall, helping the inhabitants with or without Hawke depending on the outcome here. It'll give us reason rlto see some of Hawke's old team and get there reaction if she/ he died in the fade.
"Hey we're going to let all your regular party member's run ahead and force you to choose between Hawke and your Warden companion." Not that I mind hard choices, It's what I love about the series, it's just the set-up to this one is contrived. I feel sorry for those suckers who have Stroud as the Warden ally. Ali-bear and Loghain have some genuine impact. Also isn't the description "Lost in the fade" but most likely dead? At least that's more reasonable wiggle room than "But the Lyrium though" "Tell Morrigan.... Just tell her that I stood there look foolish." Does this version of Alistair actually have feelings for her? Even Loghain as the father of Kieran just goes "Give my regards to the witch." But then again he is rather gruff.
It's funny how it the time it took to have this conversation everyone could have escaped. I like how they try to give your decisions actual weight, but it totally breaks immersion when it's so obvious there are other options...
***** Yes, I get it.. But the demon is so large and powerful that all of them together can't really harm him. Also this demon supposed to be really intelligent. I don't buy it that one ant sized person waving a sword would fool this demon to let the other people through...
***** Perhaps. My point is that Dragon Age is a pretty safe universe as far as charterers lives are concerned, so each time a character dies it feels forced. Also your party across it's adventures fought bigger and stronger enemies than this Demon. It seems arbitrary that in this particular occasion they would choose to run instead of fighting.
Okay time to use my imagination .. So I'm playing the DA series for the first time and chose Alistair to remain with my Warden and the rest, so here's my plan ... As it will be Alistair and Hawke I will choose Alistair to stay so he lets Hawke and Inquisitor escape, after the events of inquisition the Warden hears about Alistairs death and she talks to her old best friend Wynne (Wynne hasn't died in my series), Wynne tells Warden that Alistair can be brought back but she will have to die. Wynne tells Warden that it is best if she sacrifices herself to save Alistair as he is more important and she is very slowly dying due to the spirit inside her. After some time Warden accepts this and they begin the ritual. Alistair is saved as the spirit is transferred from Wynnes body to Alistair. Unfortunately this weakens Wynne and she knows she will die. After some time Wynne says her final words to the duo. Wynne dies in the comfort with her two best friends.
Glad I never got attached to Hawke, an easy choice for me each time... Though, it makes me sad, knowing there's a dog who'll be waiting for them to come home... Oh god... Why Bioware? *Why?*
Alistair vs. Hawke. Ogawd. My Inquisitor stared into the Abyss while I went online searching for any consequences this choice would have because my heart, o my heart. I couldn't. All I can say is that I am really curious to see how either of these choices will affect Dragon Age IV (which I hope comes sooner than later). There better be a significant effect: it's too large of a choice not to have one, and I can think of several stemming from either choice; I chose to save Alistair because he's my sweetie. It's still the toughest choice I've made, in regards to both lore and personal preference. Although, I chose to have Varric in my party, which proved to be a plot hole when he asks what became of Hawke. It's like ... you were there, with me, as Hawke stayed behind. They could've made that choice even harder by making a specific dialogue set with Varric fighting against Hawke's sacrifice... but then again, perhaps that's better for my heart lol but my brain demands continuity.
I feel like I didn't get that "sigh" from Solas but maybe it's just that time again. The time to replay DAI. However I'll be personally offended if I don't get that sigh.
The first time where swooping was actually bad, it swooped in right in front of them. It's easy to sacrifice Stroud, Alistair and Hawke are different. If it ever told me to sacrifice Loghain in a random then I so would.
Even when it's Loghain with Hawke, I always leave Hawke, since the Wardens are needed and since Alistair or Loghain helped with the Archdemon they're more experienced in dealing with Darkspawn and either of them is necessary to rebuild the Wardens
Whats the difference between exiling the wardens and keeping them? Does it have much of an impact? Also, is there a difference between keeping the Warden with their leader saved and keeping them with Hawke alive and their leader dead? I wondered if perhaps keeping the Wardens when they are leaderless might mean they fall to corruption again? Kind of like in ME3 where saving the rachni was only beneficial if you saved the queen in ME1. Otherwise the cloned Cerberus ones actually hindered rather than help. Also, your elf character is beautiful. Nice work :)
Le Inquisitor Wait, Weisshaupt is practically their most important place, do they simply loose it to those Wardens who are still with Corypheus? Letting it become a Dragon Age-version of Minas Morgul seems a bit... weird...
If you banish the wardens without a leader the order (or their branch of it) crumbles. If you banish them and sacrificed Hawke, the surviving warden keeps them together and they get involed in a warden civil war.
No Hawke, Corypheus is not your problem, is the Wardens. They got your dad in this mess and they got you in this mess. That's why I always sacrifice the Warden, which usually are Loghain or Stroud.
![Alistair cameo (King, Warden, Drunk) [all options] | Dragon Age 2](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/E2WIvguoWk4/mqdefault.jpg)
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"Varric Greatly disapprove".Yeah, no shit.
Imagine, varric was the one who got Hawke involved to help you and you get Hawke (presumably) killed in return. 😂😂 I'd be pissed too!
*Varric randomly runs up in the middle of a conversation*
Varric: Where's Hawke?
*Cut*
Varric: Where's Hawke *Same exact voice file*
Gods above.....
And now imagine a bug where the game gets stuck there and repeats itself over and over again... :3
tillmannfischer
Oh boy
lololololol
Ahhhh, those sweet upvotes! I should become a bug developer, developing the coolest bugs for video games...
It seemed lazy didn't it? I thought the game skipped 😂
Lets face it we've died for Alistair once as the warden we would do it again as Hawke
Thanks to Morrigan, no one had to die in my play through.
Alistair died for me so I'll gladly get rid of Stroud in my canon. Lol. Gotta love the Wardens and their sacrifices.
No one ever died in my DA:O playthroughs thanks to Morrigan,,,
but this comment makes me sad regardless😢😢😢
I mean alistair is someone you could die for, he’s the ultimate good boy out there
I for one didn't sacrifice myself to not either
A. Put alistair's ass on the ferelden thrown or
B. For Alistair to put his scrawny ass back in the firing line
If it would ever come to this in my play throughs, Alistair would get it.
"But they hurt people!"
-"While they do that, I'll report to the wardens at weisshaupt."
"Tell morrigan... Ah, just tell her I stood there looking foolish"
He knew exactly what she'd say 😂😂😂
The only choice I could make here was Stroud, I could never sacrifice Hawke or Alistair...
Hehe, and you didn't even mention Loghain.Yep thats an option too if you let him live.
+Krisztián Kerényi, Yeah, but Alister leaves in first DA if u choose Loghain, so that wasn't really a choice for me either ))
Nerjaveika
Unless you do what i did. You harden Allister(Tell him to grow up after the talk with her sister) and than he will take the throne whatever you do with Loghain. I for one married Anora AND Allister AND for one saved Loghain too. Everyone lives, win-win.
Mostani mentésemben, Alistar + Warden a trónon, Loghaint Ali megölte. Összes küldetés paragon, elég jó a Világ Állapotom. Ali és Morrigan találkozása az kínos, de aki igazán tetszett nekem az Hawke, meg Varrick.
+Krisztián Kerényi If you let Loghain live, you still lose Alistair whether he becomes a wandering drunk or a king. I can't bear the thought that Alastair and my Warden wouldn't be best friends anymore if I saved Loghain.
Alistair takes over for Stroud if he remains a warden? I have never been happier making him King. This decision might actually kill me.
I'm glad I made him king, I couldn't make this choice!
+Antonio Almeida Yeah. It's no contest between Hawke and Stroud.
+FreakDaMIghet Not to hard to leave loghain either.
tacob0 Oh, Loghain is long dead in my playthrough. Alistair took his head clean off using Cailan's own sword.
Ikr! My thought exactly. F*ck this choice. I'm dipping. Sorry Strauss..
+Antonio Almeida it was easy, I hate the champion, so I'm always pleased to kill him.... *shut up, varric*..
I spent hours making my Hawke beautiful, I'm not gonna waste that by sacrificing her.
LoL... when you change hair style, skin color and eye color... she looks the same as basic version of DA2.
But hawke is a guy
Dumpster Raccoon hawke is only a guy if the games aren’t linked. Hawke, the hero in dragon age 2 can be a female or male if you create the character yourself
@@carntmax8952 but canon he’s a guy
@@stormopo there is no canon in dragon age
"Tell Morrigan... just tell her i stood there looking foolish"
Alistair/Morrigan catfights are the best. lol
My Alistair had been in a relationship with the Warden, who died killing Urthemiel. That nod he gives at 2:45 when the Inquisitor talks about making a sacrifice because someone has to do it really hit me.
Why did you let your Warden die though, when there's option for the Hero of Ferelden to survive?
@@widaflow . Because they don't know how to achieve a good ending, it needs more work.
@@widaflow some people like to role play tradgedy
@@widaflow Roleplaying.
Oh my fucking god the way Varric walks away......................................oh my god........ :(
+Maria O I know right :( There's another version with him and Cassandra, it's even more heartbreaking: th-cam.com/video/NZKyUW4kFBs/w-d-xo.html
what got me was varric saying "where's hawke?" twice in that tiny little voice. broke my heart.
so glad I made alister king so I didn't have to choose between the two. because holy crap that would have been sad.
Poor Stroud never stood a chance.
@@Kingneo0053 it kills me that it's the exact same fucking voice line back to back, the second could have been something like "so... where is she?"
Shite, Varric kills me everytime he asks, "Where's Hawke?"
Yeah, or like.
*Looks at the ground
"Varric.. I-I'm sorry. He/She didn't make it."
*Looks the other way
Makes it more emotional, imo.
Jayy Le yeah! that too!!.. they completely ruined that part with that lame speech
I know right.. Inquisitor should have the option to be more sentimental. zzz
"I'm sorry Sebastian" - cue the feels
Mine didn't, she romanced Fenris all the way XD though I did like Sebastian, could never bring myself to romance him though XD
Mine said "I'am sorry Anders" ... he will never get another girl compared to others because he is so emo-edgy and self-hating. I kinda feel sorry for him now~
Not for Hawke since she turned from jester into a blood-mage hating zealot
KiaraVanwood sane dude. Merrill doesn't deserve the amount of pain she got.
This scene, is literally the only reason why I spared Loghain in Dragon Age Origins and forced him to become a warden.
Just to make him a sacrifice in this scene.
You can do that? Lol
Lived a hero, died a hero. Fitting, I guess.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м I personally think that dying like a hero is better if you let him kill the Archdemon in DA O because he gets a grave next to Garahel is a hero who saved his country.
@@Dark_Voice I agree, but I like this one too.
You see him go from being the one who betrayed the Warden's and nearly cost the whole of Fereldan, to the only one left who spoke out against what they were becoming and died doing what they do. I love a good heroic redemption arc lol
I cried when I picked Hawke. Her last words saying I'm sorry Sebastian. Oh no, I lost it. Why do you do this Bioware?
Maker bless every soul that doesn't hate Sebastian.
My Hawke who romanced Sebastian is my sarfical lamb (mostly because I have a Alistair Warden world-state and i ain't gonna kill him EVER!)
Olivia Brewington I have the exact same state (goddamnit Bioware), but I decided to spare my Hawke instead. What can I say, she's my self-insert playthrough and I'm not suicidal. Plus I have plenty of different playthroughs to use after, fortunately.
My Fem Amel was romancing him and I don't want her murdering me so yeah, I killed Sebastian's lover because I love Alistair far more than I like Sebastian. Plus my Warden would butcher my Inquisitor.
Alana Marie Ah Sabby was my absolute favorite Rouge in DA2 and my Fem Champ romance. Plus simply one of my favorite characters in the game. I love rangers, And his white armor was so damn cool!!
I love Varric and all, but I love Alistair so much more. I would gladly sacrifice Hawke 100 times over if it meant saving Alistair.
@AlreadyWon It's not retarded at all. DA 2 is a terrible game with an either boring(the good) or idiotic(the "funny") or an absolute bastard(the evil) of a main character. Alistair on the other hand was well written, funny and he was with you throughout the whole first game. Not to mention he could be your first character's lover. Which matters more than anything, since Origins is the best game in the series with the best main character option and the most amount of choices.
Choosing Hawke is the retarded thing to do here. I literally chose Stroud over Hawke, let alone Alistair or Loghain. Hawke is the definition of how not to write a main protagonist. Even in Inquisition he manages to be an annoyance with his constant nagging about wardens doing blood magic. Good riddance.
I love that alistair mentioned morrigan tho hehe
I don't 😒
For completely, Alistair and Morrigan best banters.
Solas's sigh gave me flashbacks to whenever I disappointed my parents
It's fine, he disappointts us later on
@@xNephilimxXx You know you've been missing for like a decade? You should check in with people (/joke)
Varric's "Where's Hawke?" Is tearjerking. He sounds so sad and confused
yeah man. I feel sorry for him
You know when you played all games you get connected to certain characters of the game. Like Alistair and Hawke. So when your put before such a damned decision to your like =,( WTF?!?!?!?
Solution: Make alistair king and let that random warden from DA2 with a bushy moustache die instead.
NikkiD312 What if bioware didn't let the inquisiter meet the hero of ferelden because then you will have to choose between THOF or hawke.
I didn't spare my dear Loghain for this! How come that he became Hawke's contact anyway?!
That last line belongs in a 'best of Alistair' cut...
I'm not sure why, but I feel like it might be easier to sacrifice my own Hawke instead of Alistair.
I think originally it was meant to be a choice between Hawke and the Hero of Fereldan, but there were issues with importing the Hero, so they went with Alistair, Stroud, and Loghain.
Imagine the hero actually at skyhold with either morrigan or Leli as their romance just loving it up. would be so cute. Also voiced warden!?!?
@@SandyTheTryhard yea voice acting would be a problem with hero so they scraped this idea
@@patrykranosz4826 maybe calling cure for non special blood lines involves loss of voice or tongue?? some bs to make canon so they can show up
@@SandyTheTryhard Get some kinda voice-stealer demon and we're talking.
@@patrykranosz4826 Voice acting would've been the least of their problems. Hawke and the Inquisitor both have got only 3 set personalities for the player to choose from. Whereas the Warden's personality was sculpted by the player. If they were to bring back the Warden, they would ruin him/her for many players no matter the quality of the voice acting.
Conflicted about this one. I sort of wish I hadn't made Alistair king so I'd have been able to see all these awesome new scenes with him without expecting them. Then choosing between Hawke or him? That's some dramatic stuff! However, I'm also glad I made that idiot king because I honestly don't know if I could choose either. I loved both! Didn't have any idea this was even a possibility until now to be honest!
Yup. Dramatically hard. And that's what causing the debate/discord in almost any threads regarding that last choice option of Here Lies The Abyss.
"I'm sorry, Sebastian"
Daaaaamn, I didn't romance Sebastian in my playthrough but *that* really tore my heart into pieces.
I'll always go for Hawke stays in this case, even though Varric's reaction breaks my heart.
My reasoning is that if there's anyone who can survive battling a giant spider in the Fade and one days make it back out alive, it's Hawke.
"just tell her I stood there and looked foolish" the dogs raised you too well
SPOILER ALERT
Maybe when Hawke says, "Corypheus is mine!" and The Inquisitor sending Corypheus into the Fade are connected so they can have a 1-on-1?
Probably not but it'd be cool.
I always thought it was a bit silly to send Corypheus into the Fade because now he can just go to the Black City, right? Though I suppose the demons won't be loyal to him anymore...
Wojciech Wilkanowski that.....actually sounds friggen badass. BIOWARE MAKE THIS DLC NOW
KYRaptorN that sounds like a DLC similar to dragon age awakening.
Wojciech Wilkanowski The Inquisitor killed him because using the Mark of the Rift they destroyed his body you see it disintegrating and seeing as he couldn't jump into blighted bodies because of the fake archdemon being dead courtesy of you... Yeah he's done I'm pretty sure.
Hmmm, Alistair said the inquisitor and "his" warden friend even though this inquisitor is clearly female...
Hawke:I'm sorry Sebastian
Player's:we're not!
Seriously, even Varric hate's that irritating prick.
That prick is my main romance and a favourite character in DA2, but to each their own, I suppose.
"A favorite" To whom exactly? He's the Vivienne of DA2.
No instead he just tries to kill you unless you side with bloodthirsty Templars.
GZLAnnihilation he acts like a fucking kid, a bloodthirsty kid. I'd understand if he decided to go after Anders and/or Hawke seeing as Anders was the one to do what I wanted to happen for a long time and made a Chantry go BOOOM and Hawke let him go but instead he invaded Kirkwall and probably is responsible for the deaths of many Kirkwall guards who had absolutely nothing to do with the Chantry's destruction.
Matt Allen
I know...I was agreeing with you.
the way she says "i'm sorry sebastian" I J UST
+Red C. Honestly, this one sentence shattered my stone heart into a million of pieces.
+Red C. Honestly, this one sentence shattered my stone heart into a million of pieces.
Hawke's too badass to die to a mere Fear Demon.
Hey, between Hawke and Alistair, I left Hawke's ass in the fade.
I still don't see why is Hawke so relevant to Thedas? What did he do compared to the other protagonists? The Warden Commander saved Thedas from the Fifth Blight and killed an Archdemon. The Inquisitor solved the Breach crisis all over Thedas and killed Corypheus. Hawke knew the guy who started the Mage Rebellion and he fought in it like thousands of other people.
The qunari problem was just a stepping stone and it only affected one city. It had no relevance to the Mage Rebellion, it had no relevance to the Blight, it had no relevance to Corypheus, it had no relevance to the rest of Thedas. And killing Orsino and Meredith was just a few of the many victims of the Mage Rebellion. Killing them neither started nor solved anything. If Hawke hadn't done it, someone else would have. Or they could have killed each other. Hawke is basically the guy who happens to be in the middle of a tavern brawl and defends himself from other attackers. Not something deserving of praises.
+Bindair Dundat in legacy (the dlc for da2), hawke is the one to actually released corypheus in the first place. malcolm hawke, hawkes dad, binded corypheus using his blood therefore only hawke's blood could have been able to do so. hawke also kills corypheus once in legacy.
so basically while everyone else was doing cool shit, hawke pulled a "oh, fuck what did i do". whether or not hawke is a positive character to have in thedas, varric brings him to skyhold purely because hawke had experience in killing corypheus already. thats the big thing that makes him relevant in thedas during inquisition. the warden commander isnt as relevant to thedas as much anymore by inquisition-- alistair even says it at one point (when you ask him about being "the alistair" and defeating the blight, he says "nobody cares about that anymore").
i mean i guess hawke's relationship to anders is also kinda important because he has the ability to help anders blow up the chantry... and/or kill anders for his actions. also killing orsino and meredith makes so that one group was able to take advantage over the other. this eventually prolonged the battle and eventually spreaded it into different parts of thedas. the qunari rebellion and the viscounts death also caused huge political unrest in kirkwall which eventually caused a lot of people to turn on each other towards the mage rebellion, not to mention the amount of support hawke can give to either mages or templars will be a factor in how confident mages become in order to rebel.
hawke is just always at the wrong place at the wrong time and things never ended well for him. there wasn't a lot of glory at the end of da2-- in origins and inquisition, people are cheering and throwing parties for the playable character. in da2, hawke and his friends just kinda flee the city.
sorry this was so long! i hope that explains a little bit more on hawkes relevance in inquisition.
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But this is the problem. Corypehus was dlc boss in DA2. Additional content. Not part of Hawke's main story. And even before Corypehus appeared in Inquisition, Cassandra preached about how Hawke should have been there to be the Inquisitor or at the summit during the peace talk.
What could have Hawke possibly done to make anything in those situations?
The qunari threat may have caused political tension, but that is only the equivalent of dealing with Loghaine or solving the Civil War in Olrais. If it can be mentioned on the same level, considering how Kirkwall was just a city, while the other two were huge kingdoms.
And Hawke fought and killed both Orsino and Meredith. He didn't really pick a side, apart from defending his companions. And the templars and mages elsewhere in Thedas didn't really care about Hawke or what "side" he was on. Apart from Cassandra and Varric, nobody mentioned him. Not mages nor templars.
+Bindair Dundat tbh i found it kinda ridiculous that corypheus would be the main boss in inquisition esp. since he's from dlc content that not everyone has which would only cause some unnecessary confusion in story, but it's bioware's choice to do that i guess :-/ the inclusion of just that one dlc though makes him relevant
i mean if you think about it though the warden wouldn't have been super useful as a candidate either, warden abilities don't do much for a human conflict. both of them may have just been selected because of their leadership skills and/or history in battle. at least hawke firsthand experienced a lot of the mage/templar tension, the warden hadn't done anything in regards to that for ten years (last we know of is the broken circle quest in origins).
another thing to consider is that varric wrote that book that was super widespread and like his most infamous one that was about hawke. this probably kinda helped boost what people knew about him and how they regarded him as champion. looool maybe thats pushing it a bit but still it's provides an explanation as to why hawke was even considered for the position.
plus thedas hadnt seen a qunari invasion (aside from tevinter) since the storm age until the attack on kirkwall, so i don't think it's the same plane as the loghain or celene/gaspard/briala situations in the other games. then the mage uprising started in kirkwall.. so though its not a nation, but enough people were watching kirkwall close enough for it to be important in the overall story.
dragon age 2 is just really small in comparison to the other two games-- i'm sure if bioware had spent more time on it they could've made it so hawke saves all of the free marches or something bigger, but i don't think we should discredit hawke and his relevance to the story just because of da2 having a more contained map.
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Yeah, reusing Corypheus was kind of cheap. And the fact that most zones in Inquisition were only XP grinds, made it feel like a single player MMO.
To the rest of the mages, the events of Kirkwall were nothing more than a green light. Not even Orsino or Meredith really cared about Hawke or which side he was on. The mage - templar tension was everywhere. In every Circle. If not Kirkwall, some other city would have started it. And Anders started it, with or without Hawke knowing it. Praising Hawke is like praising the one guy who shot the first civilian and started the Boston Massacre, ultimately leading to the American War of Independence and a free America. :D
Basically, apart from Hawke having a brief encounter with Corypheus, which ultimately didn't help the Inquisition at all, the whole of DA2 was just a filler. Nothing really happened in DA2 that couldn't have been said in Inquisition.
Corypheus? Yeah, some asshole freed an ancient darkspawn magister. It would have been better if we hadn't known who he was.
Mage Rebellion? Yeah, some asshole blew up the Chantry in Kirkwall to start it.
Red Lyrium? Yeah, we learn in Inquisition what it is. Was it any help that Varric has "seen it before"? No.
+Bindair Dundat oh yeah totally i feel that on inquisition. it was rough trying to get through the a completionist version of the entire game without wanting to rip my hair out, at least in mmos you can grind with other people good god
ah, maybe i view the game differently but because hawke kept getting caught between orsino and merediths fights (like killing/catching people for them and stopping the public arguements) i always thought hawke was pretty important to the two of them? like they ask for hawkes support in act 3 depending on who you sided with more, and even in the end in the gallows hawke's expected to fight alongside the leader in exterminating the opposing group. people kinda looked up to hawke since he was champion after all-- he can even become viscount over anyone else in da2. i think it would've most likely to started in kirkwall regardless, vivienne does mentions at a point that each circle was different and kirkwall was probably was the most strict in its ways. also because anders was crazy at that point with justice. hawke can actually convince anders to not blow up the chantry in his romance, but justice will take over and force him to do it :(
i think anders would be more of the guy that shot the first civilian and started the boston massacre, hawke would've been the guy who tried to restore order. but real world applications don't fit nicely in this story i think :p
at least legacy lets us know why hawke is in inquisition and what hawkes relationship to corypheus is. no one else would've been able to release corypheus (aside from the twins.. but theyre off doing their stuff) since he was bound by blood. without hawke, corypheus couldn't have existed. without corypheus, solas couldn't have had him unlocking the orb which eventually anchored to the inquisitors hand. without the anchor, the inquisitor wouldn't have had any importance to the inquisition.
a lot of things that lead from one place to another. maybe hawkes not relevant to anyone in thedas anymore aside from cassandra and the others seeking him out as a chance to find leadership for the inquisition, but what hawke did is what allows the events of inquisition to exist.
Meanwhile in a quest in the next game, you enter the fade, you have a quest that requires magic, on one hand you have Cory trying to trick you to use blood magic, on the other you have Hawke trying to teach you how to be a dragon.
Tell Morrigan? What now -_-
Yes this video is old, but I think a great way of ending Alistairs story is if the grey warden was romanced and died during the 5th blight, and him dying here reunites him with his lover in the afterlife ahh yes so very romantic 💅🏽💗✨🌸
Well, not quite. The Warden's soul is destroyed if they kill the archdemon, so no happy afterlife reunion.
can you possibly tell Morrigan "Alistair just stood there looking foolish"?
it would be hilarious if you could
also what do you think Alistair's about to say to Morrigan before he retract it?
I know the reason he retract whatever he's about to say is because he knew Morrigan too well that he knew somehow she would've expect "Alistair would just stood there looking foolish", but I can't imagine what he's about to say
Damn, I'm curious too since I ship MorriStair.
"But they hurt people!"
Yeah, thanks for pointing out the obvious Cole.
"The Inquisitor and his warden friend escaped by the skin of their teeth" HIS? Thats not insulting at all...
"Just tell her I stood there looking foolish" Oh my GOD
How I get Hawke to say I'm sorry to the person I romanced
Dragon Age Keep.
I seriously hope in the next game depending on who you save in the fade between Hawke or Alistair/Stroud/or Loghaine the one you saved and went to the anderfels becomes a companion in dragon age 4
that be too much work on bioware's part needing to make 3 sets of lines for one place holder of an ally and how each one of them would change DA4 story being there
still awesome idea tho
***** they did it for this ? for Loghaine,stroud and Alistair all I want is for them to be in my party I get that it would be a huge undertaking but It would be worth the wait
Assassin Cactus yes but this was for small amount of dialogue cutscenes for 3 of them, thats nothing, hence why their roles were so short in this game
if they all were party members, they'd need to have dialogue for all 3 of them during gameplay, interacting with them after certain parts of the storyline, possible romance dialogue etc and how they interact with each of the other characters affecting various plot points, it would give the game even more depth but it would also lead to too many branch paths with it......thus...even more bugs and glitches lol
***** They voiced every quest in an MMO with branching paths so its not beyond the realm of possibility
Assassin Cactus not saying it isn't possible, just saying Bioware wouldn't do it, be too much effort on their part
"The Inquisitor and HIS Warden friend..." excuse me.
really cool how different this series can become for each person
This would've been the hardest decision for me. On one hand I have my characters best friend from Origins and on the other I have a version of myself that I was able to personify in DA2. I would wish that there was an option for all of us to stay and fight. But luckily for me in my world state Alistair is king! So no truly hard choices were made in this mission. Still sad though, having to leave someone behind there to die.
But who knows, I like to think that Stoud kills the beast in the Fade, maybe we might even get DLC about going in and searching for whoever you chose to leave behind.
I never make Alistair king so in Inquisition I always have to choose between him and Hawke. I always end up having him stay behind, ultimately thats what Grey Wardens are for: "In death, Sacrifice". It's super hard, but I also know my Warden would understand; on the other side I just can't leave Fenris all alone again after he found someone he can truly trust and love
Alistair's line about Morrigan plus the having them do the dark ritual in Dragon Age Origins to have a kid together really add some gravitas to their relationship in Inquisition.
this isn’t even my play through and watching varric walk away made me cry
You know the rules, if you don't see them die on screen, they ain't dead yet.
He will always be a warden for me. I just cannot made him a king
Lmfao ‘tell Morrigan I stood there looking foolish’ best part and need after the day bye to varric
Thank God I never made Alistair a Grey Warden.
This would've broken my heart.
By the way... where did you get that armor? 40 hours in and I've never seen it; aside from on NPCs.
It's Dalish Scout armor, you can buy the schematic from dog merchant in Hissing Wastes
Alright, thank you =P. I've looked up a few places trying to figure out where to buy schematics and never had much luck outside of medium and heavy armors.
I like the Enchanter Armor and all, but it's getting really old seeing nothing but that model. It's a shame that the only variety I saw was right after the intro in Haven's camp.
Rowan Buchanan
Dalish Scout is medium armor, you need to use special kind of leather (Snoufleur Skin) to remove class restriction. And I know what you mean, I really hate that there are so few armor models in this game, at least I could get something different for my elf but other races just spend the entire game in the same armor except for maybe some small variations and different colors :(
FluffyNinjaLlama Of course you need something unique to remove restrictions *_* hnngh. Why they can't just offer that as a perk is beyond me. And I've played nothing but a mage so far; only dorked off on a rogue. So I didn't know everything suffered from a lack of variety. Here's to hoping modders figure out how to work with meshes.
alastair was a grey warden in the first game. there isnt a choice. he only isnt in this scene if he is dead from the last arch demon, or is the king.
Oh gosh varric broke me. This is a decision I’m actually struggling with. I have found myself very much attached to loghain who is my warden in this and so the choice between him and hawke is something I’m conflicted about. Although giving him a good death would do him much justice. Especially yo save so many orlesians
Sebastian? "cough" my sympathy to hawke
the way he says "tell morrigan..." - alistair totally had a thing for her after all ^^
That's a really shitty thing to do. If it bleeds, you help your Friend put the fucker in the ground; flesh spider demon or not.
Nightmare demon: *stops my Inquisitor
Me: for real? We killed like 7 dragons at this point as if we'd get stopped by a fucken spider-and look Stroud's already drawing blood from it the dragons we killed got SCALES as armour we can beat its ass
Alistair's parting comment is the best!
I know this sacrifice is tough, but I'd like to imagine the save files of people who sacrificed Alistair or Hawke will see a surprise return in DA 4. You'll never know with Dragon Age, right?
I'm so glad they put stroud in i dont want to lose my favorite characters
Man does that decision suck to have to make. Glad I always had Alistair become king. Seems like having Stroud/Alistair/Loghain die wouldn't impact the fate of the wardens immensely seeing as (For most people's playthrough anyway) the hero of Ferelden is still alive and is a senior warden as well. As for the decision to exile the wardens out of Orlais... I really don't get how anyone could think that's a good idea. I mean if an archdemon shows up.. what.. you want me to kill it?
Finished the game a bit ago, just saying Alistair will turn soo if the hero of ferelden doesn't find a cure to the calling he will become darkspawn, plus Hawke helps rebuild kirkwall. Alistair story is over so I sacrifice him, don't get me wrong he is great but his tale is over. Oh and Logahin definitely fits going out as his redemption
Ew, Sebastian.
I know right?
Oscar Binning Sabby was the only cool rouge in DA2, I hated all the others and only like Varric as a character.
paying money for a heterosexual choir boy? no thanks. lol
Anders through and through.
@@fandomtrash6016 Mage with unusual powers an end goal they believe is right despite the destruction it's bound to cause? Yes please.
I wish it was a choice between Hawke and your warden character, would have made it so much harder
DA:O dialogue so much smoother. Inquisition feel weird even the face. I know some snowflakes will say me wrong. Inquisition is good for the lore but against DA:O? No, the DA:O lore and story may be simpler but the way they presented themselves is more powerful. I hate when people say the DA:O need to remake.
Fun fact, at 2:06 the inquisition soldier is voiced by Renly Baratheon's actor Gethin Anthony.
I'm not going to lie, when it came down to the decision between Hawke and Stroud I found it hard to pick because the Wardens need a responsible leader like Stroud, but on the other hand, I knew Varric would be devastated by Hawke's death. But as for the decision between Hawke and Alistair, I didn't hesitate, Hawke was making the sacrifice, and even then I was more upset that I made Varric loose a good friend. I wonder what that says about Bioware's approach to characters that I care more about Alistair and Varric than I do about a previous game's protagonist.
Damn, saving either of them feels like a plot armor, A BIG ONE
archdemon......its time......we need our hero again if alive. all this plot has been building up for this return. "The Calling"
just realise that hawke used his staff of stabbing that shit instead of using blood magic. Thats Hawke. #TeamHawke
You know. It's funny: I've seen people ask why the Hero wasn't in the game. Now I always thought it was because.of costs because they had to hire a new VA (or several) and write in dialogue for certain characters (Leliana, Morigan, and maybe Cullen if you played a mage warden). Not to mention, to avoid character overload. Now I think it's also because of the Fade choice. Writers realized how hard it would be for players to pick between Alistair and Hawke. Now imagine if it's your warden and Hawke. Think the writers were afraid players would come to burn down their houses then.
3:27 I believe you wanted to say 'No breeches', Alistair.
Sera is a Ferelden alright...
„I'm sorry, Sebastian.” 😢
I'd have stood up and walked away if I had to make this choice. Holy hell am I glad I had Stroud instead of Alistair.
My idea for for this game's first DLC is to take the inquisition to Kirkwall, helping the inhabitants with or without Hawke depending on the outcome here. It'll give us reason rlto see some of Hawke's old team and get there reaction if she/ he died in the fade.
Hawke turned into blood mage hating zealot... saved Loghain.
My Hawke was making jokes out of everything! Not judging! RIP!
OMG...I'm glad I made Alistair king, no way I could have chosen between them.
The way Varric says "where's Hawke?" brakes my heart every time.
"Hey we're going to let all your regular party member's run ahead and force you to choose between Hawke and your Warden companion."
Not that I mind hard choices, It's what I love about the series, it's just the set-up to this one is contrived.
I feel sorry for those suckers who have Stroud as the Warden ally. Ali-bear and Loghain have some genuine impact.
Also isn't the description "Lost in the fade" but most likely dead? At least that's more reasonable wiggle room than "But the Lyrium though"
"Tell Morrigan.... Just tell her that I stood there look foolish."
Does this version of Alistair actually have feelings for her? Even Loghain as the father of Kieran just goes "Give my regards to the witch." But then again he is rather gruff.
That was heartbreaking. "Wheres Hawk?" Yeowch
its so weird, i romanced isabella and my hawke just said "always those damned spiders" when he died
It's funny how it the time it took to have this conversation everyone could have escaped.
I like how they try to give your decisions actual weight, but it totally breaks immersion when it's so obvious there are other options...
***** Yes, I get it.. But the demon is so large and powerful that all of them together can't really harm him. Also this demon supposed to be really intelligent.
I don't buy it that one ant sized person waving a sword would fool this demon to let the other people through...
***** I thought they are one and the same.
***** Perhaps. My point is that Dragon Age is a pretty safe universe as far as charterers lives are concerned, so each time a character dies it feels forced.
Also your party across it's adventures fought bigger and stronger enemies than this Demon. It seems arbitrary that in this particular occasion they would choose to run instead of fighting.
Since my hero of ferelden aka alistairs wife died ending the blight i chose to sacrifice alistair. Now they’re happy and together after all😪😢😅
The “I’m sorry Sebastian” gutted me because I romanced him in DA2 as well ;-;
Sorry Varric, but I could not possibly sacrifice Alistair, and Hawke supposedly doesnt actually die
i’m happy i didn’t have to make that choice, but if i did, i would be crying either way
3:41 Alistair talk about Morrigan???this was not been here!
Okay time to use my imagination .. So I'm playing the DA series for the first time and chose Alistair to remain with my Warden and the rest, so here's my plan ... As it will be Alistair and Hawke I will choose Alistair to stay so he lets Hawke and Inquisitor escape, after the events of inquisition the Warden hears about Alistairs death and she talks to her old best friend Wynne (Wynne hasn't died in my series), Wynne tells Warden that Alistair can be brought back but she will have to die. Wynne tells Warden that it is best if she sacrifices herself to save Alistair as he is more important and she is very slowly dying due to the spirit inside her.
After some time Warden accepts this and they begin the ritual. Alistair is saved as the spirit is transferred from Wynnes body to Alistair.
Unfortunately this weakens Wynne and she knows she will die. After some time Wynne says her final words to the duo. Wynne dies in the comfort with her two best friends.
Obviously next time I play DA:O Alistair is becoming king so I can choose Stroud xD
That's head canon for you guys xD
I hate to break it to you but... Between DA 2 and DA:I Wynne dies. (This is depicted in one of the novels Dragon Age Asunder.)
I'm sorry, Sebastian.
That killed me...
the little dialogue line allister mentions Morrigan makes me wonder some things....
Glad I never got attached to Hawke, an easy choice for me each time... Though, it makes me sad, knowing there's a dog who'll be waiting for them to come home... Oh god... Why Bioware? *Why?*
Alistair vs. Hawke. Ogawd. My Inquisitor stared into the Abyss while I went online searching for any consequences this choice would have because my heart, o my heart. I couldn't. All I can say is that I am really curious to see how either of these choices will affect Dragon Age IV (which I hope comes sooner than later). There better be a significant effect: it's too large of a choice not to have one, and I can think of several stemming from either choice; I chose to save Alistair because he's my sweetie. It's still the toughest choice I've made, in regards to both lore and personal preference. Although, I chose to have Varric in my party, which proved to be a plot hole when he asks what became of Hawke. It's like ... you were there, with me, as Hawke stayed behind. They could've made that choice even harder by making a specific dialogue set with Varric fighting against Hawke's sacrifice... but then again, perhaps that's better for my heart lol but my brain demands continuity.
I feel like I didn't get that "sigh" from Solas but maybe it's just that time again. The time to replay DAI. However I'll be personally offended if I don't get that sigh.
The first time where swooping was actually bad, it swooped in right in front of them. It's easy to sacrifice Stroud, Alistair and Hawke are different. If it ever told me to sacrifice Loghain in a random then I so would.
Isn't there a version of him and morrigan meeting? and talking about their child?
It's cut content. Not in-game..I believe :/
TH-cam user DanaDuchy has uploaded the audio file on that if you're interested.
daasbuffy It should of been in the game.
EruanneJfO It's not in game, only audio files exist
Aeschylus Shepherd Didn't say it shouldn't. Although listening to Morrigan be nice to Alistair was disturbing.
Even when it's Loghain with Hawke, I always leave Hawke, since the Wardens are needed and since Alistair or Loghain helped with the Archdemon they're more experienced in dealing with Darkspawn and either of them is necessary to rebuild the Wardens
Whats the difference between exiling the wardens and keeping them? Does it have much of an impact? Also, is there a difference between keeping the Warden with their leader saved and keeping them with Hawke alive and their leader dead? I wondered if perhaps keeping the Wardens when they are leaderless might mean they fall to corruption again? Kind of like in ME3 where saving the rachni was only beneficial if you saved the queen in ME1. Otherwise the cloned Cerberus ones actually hindered rather than help.
Also, your elf character is beautiful. Nice work :)
Le Inquisitor that's why I think the next game will be about the warden civil war
Le Inquisitor
Wait, Weisshaupt is practically their most important place, do they simply loose it to those Wardens who are still with Corypheus? Letting it become a Dragon Age-version of Minas Morgul seems a bit... weird...
If you banish the wardens without a leader the order (or their branch of it) crumbles. If you banish them and sacrificed Hawke, the surviving warden keeps them together and they get involed in a warden civil war.
"Be they hunt people!" Oh BOO-Hoo-Hoo!
I hate Cole so much.
No Hawke, Corypheus is not your problem, is the Wardens. They got your dad in this mess and they got you in this mess. That's why I always sacrifice the Warden, which usually are Loghain or Stroud.