Just to clarify the 6.1 stuff a bit from having 5.7/6.1/6.4/6.2 apart side by side. 6.1's being made during the Dalmeir Chrysler partnership had all kinds of part sharing. As Ben's updated so did dodge only we were a few years behind. The SL/S/E/C class's got updated Nag1's and better converters, better driveshafts, better diffs so the 6.1 post 09 don't make any more power they just can deliver it better. The LSD in question the 3.06 LSD and the 3.92 LSD were optional. My magnum srt8 (2007) had the 3.06 and made the same dyno numbers as the challengers/chargers/300. As for the other gen 3 hemi's The head change/intake/cam change as far as the Eagle stuff was the 5.7 then carried to the 6.4. The 6.1 kinda is it's own animal and more like the 6.2 as just a long block if that makes sense. Stronger internals, can handle raised rpm, can handle more cylinder pressure and can take 10lbs of boost all day. The 392 is really just a bored/stroked 5.7 and it's not at its limits it's just less room and you have to be smart & carful with your mods. Under 8lbs of boost with a cam swap and some basics your totally good to go on a 392. At the end of the day the weak point in an 05-10(even 12-14 nag trans cars) is the transmission. Since Chrysler was cheap and didn't use the WG7 like amg the trans bearly hold 550whp before breaking/ the open diffs are trash and yes with some basic mods and a LSD you can spank scatpacks when they don't know how to drive. That being said the ZF trans are so much better, the 15 plus cars are engineered better so heads up stock for stock the SRT392 (not Scatpack/TA/RT392) with the 3.09, ZFHP70, stronger drive train parts will win 8/10. At the end of the day grab a 06 srt8 and slap these parts on it and make 600whp and mess with unassuming hellcats, MMX 2.4IHI Blower, Srt Max Plus Cam, 2.82 Pully, Longtubes 2inch by 3 inch 3 inch catless mids Any 3 inch exhaust after that, 3.09 Rear diff, 315/40/17's, Thermostat, Cooling All that to say even though there slower, I'd buy a 6.1 car and mod it every single time over a 392. 💪🏾
How’s the bottom end ? Is it reliable ? Would you mod a 6.1 at 200k miles ? I just hit 200k on my 05 Chrysler srt8 I want to install a cam kit probably stage 2. I’m just worried about the bottom end. Btw I have 05 Chrysler srt8 only about 270 of them made. Is it more valuable?
@@themopardad you definitely know your stuff but I have a question I’d like your opinion on… Let’s say you go forged 426 stroker kit instead of the blower, how would that fare as far as the power go?
I’ve heard a lot 6.1 guys say they have beaten Scatpacks, if your are one of them hit that comments section and state the year of your SRT8! Thanks again for all the support!! 🙏🏼
I have a 08 charger and it's possible with fresh fluids such as oil, trans, & especially fresh gear oil , and ESP has to be off. If yours trans friction plates aren't too worn and your reaction time is flawless and if your lifters aren't failing or about to fail and your cam isn't worn and your oil pump is functioning properly then yes you can beat a scat pack... so to speak.. my 3rd gear pulls hard from 79mph to 121 -122 mph..
@srtdad look up Marspeed, he's another Mopar enthusiast. He has a few videos on the production numbers for the 6.1L between the 300, charger, magnum and challenger. Great video.
On my 2017 challenger scat pack shaker with the factory cold air intake & my 3inch magna flow cat back exhaust. My challenger just barely makes 500hp. So your theory definitely holds true. I wanna install a ported throttle body soon. But, even then it's not much of a gain. Our family owns a restaurant 10 miles outta my home town so my challenger has to be reliable everyday. So the throttle body will be my last part install that adds a couple of horse power. But I love my challenger anyway. Awesome content keep at it!
08 got older style taillights newer style seats, that’s what I personally love about my 08. It’s power-wise NA with all the grip and aerodynamics and yes I beat Scats. Not one or two, a lot on the regular. Digs, rolls all that. With not a lot of whp difference, it comes down to how you put your foot down. I am in East Valley can travel west for scats and 09s and 10s😉
As a guy who has had 7 chargers i can tell you my 2010 srt8 used beat some & hang with some scatpacks. Had cold air intake exhaust & tune. Now with my current daily 07 srt8 charger i have da same exhaust tune & intake. Ive raced only 1 2017 charger scatpack in it & it was neck & neck from 20 & until like 80 mph & we both let off.
I literally just got an 06 SRT8 today, this video doesnt bother me though because I don't plan on keeping it it stock. but this is good to know for people who just want to jump in and go.
Nice I can't find a charger (PREFERABLY for the 4 door) where I'm at but I've kept my eyes on a 2010 Challenger SRT8 with 85k no but it's a automatic. What you think?? LMK
and if he woulda raced me gives the dr evil look at the camera😏 i woulda got em cant wait for more race videos with your new cam in brudda im in michigan so snow holding me up rn but i got a 06 srt 8 almost fbo just need e85 and a cam and im there i can already beat scatpacks and run just behind some 8 speeds i plan for e85 and srt max plus cam this summer got a go pro hero 10 and a extended trunk mount gonna be pushing some good runs for the channel summer time
Scats are NOT maxed out bro. Im happy you pulled up Landon In A Hellcat's profile. When he had his scat pack he was destroying Supercharged ZL1 Camaros with bolt ons and CTS V's (version 2) like breakfast and those cars were pushing above 600 hp crank easy. The aftermarket world is releasing more mods for the 6.4 than ever before. My scat is making 615 crank 625 torque all motor no long tubes or cam yet
@@srtdad just a stock 6.4 block with supporting mods and some bolt ons similar to how Landon used to have his scat, mine does what his does. Here's the vid on what a properly tunes scat with a few bolt ons can do landon proved it like 2 years ago ..th-cam.com/video/1S_xjuYZGRA/w-d-xo.html...now the aftermarket world has made aftermarket heads, high ram intakes and much more for the 6.4 than 2 years ago.
@@TheVagitarian18 yea I remember this video!! Dudes Scat ran like it’s possessed lol I’m sure the CTSV needed a driver mod but even with that his scat pulled away bad!! Haha didn’t know about the whole aftermarket heads now that’s awesome!! 👏
@@srtdad it's possible it's just most scat owners don't ever have their car properly maintained let alone efficiently modded, they prioritize decals and shitty wicker bill wings (that create more drag) and they give the scat a bad rep for being slow but they do have potential. IT doesnt help the aftermarker world took forever to release mods for the 6.4... So Cal Supers also has a fast scat with only headers and E85
@@srtdad between 10-12 lbs, and yeah sadly my diff is open not LSD so my launches could be better and can’t find a flex tuner or pulley tuner for my life and I’m in the motor city area 😭
lol wow I didn’t know the 2010’s were such a rare find. I bought one in 2018 it just hit 95k never gave me an engine issue since day 1. Interior is shit though.
Just to clarify the 6.1 stuff a bit from having 5.7/6.1/6.4/6.2 apart side by side.
6.1's being made during the Dalmeir Chrysler partnership had all kinds of part sharing. As Ben's updated so did dodge only we were a few years behind. The SL/S/E/C class's got updated Nag1's and better converters, better driveshafts, better diffs so the 6.1 post 09 don't make any more power they just can deliver it better. The LSD in question the 3.06 LSD and the 3.92 LSD were optional. My magnum srt8 (2007) had the 3.06 and made the same dyno numbers as the challengers/chargers/300.
As for the other gen 3 hemi's
The head change/intake/cam change as far as the Eagle stuff was the 5.7 then carried to the 6.4. The 6.1 kinda is it's own animal and more like the 6.2 as just a long block if that makes sense. Stronger internals, can handle raised rpm, can handle more cylinder pressure and can take 10lbs of boost all day.
The 392 is really just a bored/stroked 5.7 and it's not at its limits it's just less room and you have to be smart & carful with your mods. Under 8lbs of boost with a cam swap and some basics your totally good to go on a 392.
At the end of the day the weak point in an 05-10(even 12-14 nag trans cars) is the transmission. Since Chrysler was cheap and didn't use the WG7 like amg the trans bearly hold 550whp before breaking/ the open diffs are trash and yes with some basic mods and a LSD you can spank scatpacks when they don't know how to drive.
That being said the ZF trans are so much better, the 15 plus cars are engineered better so heads up stock for stock the SRT392 (not Scatpack/TA/RT392) with the 3.09, ZFHP70, stronger drive train parts will win 8/10.
At the end of the day grab a 06 srt8 and slap these parts on it and make 600whp and mess with unassuming hellcats,
MMX 2.4IHI Blower,
Srt Max Plus Cam,
2.82 Pully,
Longtubes 2inch by 3 inch
3 inch catless mids
Any 3 inch exhaust after that,
3.09 Rear diff,
315/40/17's,
Thermostat,
Cooling
All that to say even though there slower, I'd buy a 6.1 car and mod it every single time over a 392.
💪🏾
Thank you so much for this very informative comment 💯🙏🏼🔥
You just gave me a build list for the 06 SRT8 I got 2 days ago
@@retro1x201 DO IT it will the most reliable build ever and make great power
How’s the bottom end ? Is it reliable ? Would you mod a 6.1 at 200k miles ? I just hit 200k on my 05 Chrysler srt8 I want to install a cam kit probably stage 2. I’m just worried about the bottom end. Btw I have 05 Chrysler srt8 only about 270 of them made. Is it more valuable?
@@themopardad you definitely know your stuff but I have a question I’d like your opinion on… Let’s say you go forged 426 stroker kit instead of the blower, how would that fare as far as the power go?
I’ve heard a lot 6.1 guys say they have beaten Scatpacks, if your are one of them hit that comments section and state the year of your SRT8! Thanks again for all the support!! 🙏🏼
I have. 09srt8 challenger
I have 07 srt8 Charger
I have a 08 charger and it's possible with fresh fluids such as oil, trans, & especially fresh gear oil , and ESP has to be off. If yours trans friction plates aren't too worn and your reaction time is flawless and if your lifters aren't failing or about to fail and your cam isn't worn and your oil pump is functioning properly then yes you can beat a scat pack... so to speak.. my 3rd gear pulls hard from 79mph to 121 -122 mph..
2010 challenger srt8 fbo n tune …. From MS
@@cutlasssupreme508😂😂 basically it has to be new it’s just slower just admit
Another reason why 2009-2010 Charger Srt8s are harder to find for sale is that I believe they made less than 2000 of them both years combined.
Wow really?? Never really looked into that! Good to know! 🔥
@srtdad look up Marspeed, he's another Mopar enthusiast. He has a few videos on the production numbers for the 6.1L between the 300, charger, magnum and challenger. Great video.
On my 2017 challenger scat pack shaker with the factory cold air intake & my 3inch magna flow cat back exhaust. My challenger just barely makes 500hp. So your theory definitely holds true. I wanna install a ported throttle body soon. But, even then it's not much of a gain. Our family owns a restaurant 10 miles outta my home town so my challenger has to be reliable everyday. So the throttle body will be my last part install that adds a couple of horse power. But I love my challenger anyway. Awesome content keep at it!
Scats are the best NA cars in my opinion bro! And they are beasts!!! Appreciate your input and thanks for watching 💯🔥
06 srt8 heads cam torque converted full bolt on and a tune moves pretty good for an 18 year old car
08 got older style taillights newer style seats, that’s what I personally love about my 08. It’s power-wise NA with all the grip and aerodynamics and yes I beat Scats. Not one or two, a lot on the regular. Digs, rolls all that. With not a lot of whp difference, it comes down to how you put your foot down. I am in East Valley can travel west for scats and 09s and 10s😉
I always say half the race is a drivers race! 🔥
As a guy who has had 7 chargers i can tell you my 2010 srt8 used beat some & hang with some scatpacks. Had cold air intake exhaust & tune. Now with my current daily 07 srt8 charger i have da same exhaust tune & intake. Ive raced only 1 2017 charger scatpack in it & it was neck & neck from 20 & until like 80 mph & we both let off.
Thanks for sharing 🙌🏼
I literally just got an 06 SRT8 today, this video doesnt bother me though because I don't plan on keeping it it stock. but this is good to know for people who just want to jump in and go.
Just upgrade that rear diff 💯🔥 either way these 6.1 are very rare now!! And they are all beasts!!
@srtdad hey there a 6.1 srt8 with halos light and its for 17k with 70k miles is it worth it
My 2007 6.1 charger make 419.2 whp with intake, exhaust and tune. My 2006 300 6.1 made 350 whp bone stock. And when up to 370 with the tune.
Solid numbers!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Nice I can't find a charger (PREFERABLY for the 4 door) where I'm at but I've kept my eyes on a 2010 Challenger SRT8 with 85k no but it's a automatic. What you think?? LMK
I have a 2010 charger srt8 and I’ve raced 08 and 06 it’s a big difference we both stock and I beat them by like 3 car lengths
Thanks for helping confirm this 💯
never gets old hearing her chug ah chug ah chug lol
Never will get old!!! 🎶 🔥🔥🔪
and if he woulda raced me gives the dr evil look at the camera😏 i woulda got em cant wait for more race videos with your new cam in brudda im in michigan so snow holding me up rn but i got a 06 srt 8 almost fbo just need e85 and a cam and im there i can already beat scatpacks and run just behind some 8 speeds i plan for e85 and srt max plus cam this summer got a go pro hero 10 and a extended trunk mount gonna be pushing some good runs for the channel summer time
Scats are NOT maxed out bro. Im happy you pulled up Landon In A Hellcat's profile. When he had his scat pack he was destroying Supercharged ZL1 Camaros with bolt ons and CTS V's (version 2) like breakfast and those cars were pushing above 600 hp crank easy. The aftermarket world is releasing more mods for the 6.4 than ever before. My scat is making 615 crank 625 torque all motor no long tubes or cam yet
Wow those are fantastic numbers!! You pushing that N/A? 426?
@@srtdad just a stock 6.4 block with supporting mods and some bolt ons similar to how Landon used to have his scat, mine does what his does. Here's the vid on what a properly tunes scat with a few bolt ons can do landon proved it like 2 years ago ..th-cam.com/video/1S_xjuYZGRA/w-d-xo.html...now the aftermarket world has made aftermarket heads, high ram intakes and much more for the 6.4 than 2 years ago.
@@TheVagitarian18 yea I remember this video!! Dudes Scat ran like it’s possessed lol I’m sure the CTSV needed a driver mod but even with that his scat pulled away bad!! Haha didn’t know about the whole aftermarket heads now that’s awesome!! 👏
@@srtdad it's possible it's just most scat owners don't ever have their car properly maintained let alone efficiently modded, they prioritize decals and shitty wicker bill wings (that create more drag) and they give the scat a bad rep for being slow but they do have potential. IT doesnt help the aftermarker world took forever to release mods for the 6.4... So Cal Supers also has a fast scat with only headers and E85
@@TheVagitarian18 that’s good to know man! 6.4 easily the best N/A engine stock no replacement for displacement!
Guy in the srt8 is on d while roll racing and not on autostick 1st gear for a 25-30 roll and 2nd gear for the 55-60 roll
my 6.4 8 2014 pushing 500 horses
Idkk man and me and my brother used to smoke these 6.1s in our 8spd 5.7 300s and challenge me rt on full bolt ons only…
Has anyone’s charger got stuck in limp mode?? If so how did you get it fixed???
That's not true I got 06 srt8 pull next to me see what happens, Here ,There,GONE
😂🔥🔥🔥🔥 let’s do it!! Regardless SRT8 is a BEAST!!!!
I have a 6.1 Hemi in my 09 challenger and will sell it if interested
I have a 2005 SRT 300 and I make 540 whp 🤷♂️
That’s awesome!!!! N/A? Or boosted
@@srtdad Procharged
@@ClouserDetailing nice! 6lbs of boost?
@@srtdad between 10-12 lbs, and yeah sadly my diff is open not LSD so my launches could be better and can’t find a flex tuner or pulley tuner for my life and I’m in the motor city area 😭
I would love to run that your car against my 300 just for fun but cammed 5.7 against cammed 6.1 sounds Interesting
5.7 ain’t no joke especially when modified! I think it would be a great and interesting matchup!!
Not really u gotta open diff still weak
I’d race him in my 09 challenger 6.1 and give him all the 💨
Yessir!!!
I have a 06 srt8 and ate a scat pack alive
first
Let’s go!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
lol wow I didn’t know the 2010’s were such a rare find. I bought one in 2018 it just hit 95k never gave me an engine issue since day 1. Interior is shit though.